What a funny old club we are :d

:lol: I would also like to add that this season has sucked. I sincerely hope that the club seriously looks for a new coach with a similar pedigree to JVS over at MH as Kossie is definitely not a long term solution.

Do you think that's likely? I think the owners will be once bitten, twice shy. I think the most likely scenario is that Kossie is kept on next season (one year deal). A more probable scenario is we get a young aussie coach (e.g. an Okon or an assistant in the club) and make Kossie a mentor in a "Director of Football" position.

Personally I like the second option but it seems to me we have a few egos in our club. Can a young coach manage that? Watching players chuck tantrums for being dragged has been one of many things I hate seeing happening at my club.

I wouldnt mind a year like the Heart have had - watching a younger team develop is interesting even if you don't win every game. It's frustrating watching the Reds play at the moment because in theory many of our players should be justifying their big paychecks and long careers.

Seeing the tizer article about Kossie maybe staying on after the end of this season makes me nervous, as many have said he needs to be the director, or some other position; definitely not the coach.

Agree with all of that. Will definitely be glad to see the back of this season, I have been at the anger stage since we gifted that game to Central Coast over there, but starting to drift towards apathy.

Will be disappointed if we end up going with Kossie, don't see him being a long term fix, but I think thats highly likely what will happen. I was really disappointed when I read in the paper that they agreed not to look at other options while Kossie was in this caretaker phase. Seems pretty stupid, this should have been a free few months to scour the market extensively to get in early and at least see whats out there.

Please just give us someone who is acquainted with the modern game. I'd be interested in Popovic coming back from Crystal Palace to manage us but that'd be about as likely as Hiddink really. At this point we're not that attractive so we'll need someone with real self-confidence.

Edited by jessesdad: 27/2/2012 05:56:23 PM

Who is a realistic target? I would have been happy to bring back Phil Stubbins, but as for other youngish Australian coaches we would need to be targeting those with a successful history - people like Okon need not apply.

you want a coach that has taken a team to 8th and currently 5th and is wildly inconsistent and has a badly balanced squad?

I'd take Kossie over JvS any day of the week.

I was going to say, maybe Valkanis, but his record with the NYL squad doesn't really promote that idea.

I didn't say I wanted JVS, I said I wanted someone with a proven track record of success.

He has only been in charge for a little while, not enough time to know wether he has the right stuff.

What about Mulvey from GCU? He did wonders with their youth team as we can see in their senior team. He has a bit of an ego like Kossie but that might be good in terms of tackling a few attitude readjustments that need to happen.

Of course he might be at GCU next season if they are still around but if he signed for us I wouldn't be chucking a wobbly.

Well he certainly was expecting to be in charge of GCU eventually from his comments, just was expecting it to happen this quickly! So he is certainly very sure of his own ability.

I rkn they should just hire one of us, couldn't go any worse could it? And would save em a ton of money.

Speak for yourself. I'd cost a pretty packet. You don't get my computer football management skills for cheap!

I can't think of any "proven" coaches around that I think we would fork out for. That's really the issue.

An assistant coach that has served a decent apprenticeship (like Stubbins) to me is preferable to having Kossie next year.

I would do it for a mere $150k per annum ;)

My game plan is ready, fail spectacularly and then blame it all on Rini Coolen :-"

Stubbins has previously been a senior coach, here is his club list:

1994–1998 Westvale Olympic FC
2000–2003 Whittlesea FC
2004–2005 Heidelberg United FC; Victorian State League 1 Champions 2004, Victorian premier League (State League) Finalists/Runners Up 2005
2006-2007 Richmond SC; took them from off bottom in 2006 and they were top of the table when he left in 2007
2007–2011 Adelaide United (Asst. Man)
2011–2012 A.I.S.
2012— INSEE Police United F.C.

Pity we lost him.

Doubt we will get rini back just moved over seas with his family and has a full time job probably making more money.

i think next year our best bet is to stay with kosmina give him a year at least we know we will play to an ok standard and make finals under him.

then after that year see who is about.

I do not see the point of axing someone for someone who MIGHT do better then john when we know what john can do.

in other news this whole champions league debacle apparently is they become apart of the IPL before the champions league starts were out there in

if they stay int he rebel league we go in.

Joe Mullen? Serg Melta? - locals who have played at the highest national level and in the case of Joe coached a winning team.

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Doubt we will get rini back just moved over seas with his family and has a full time job probably making more money.

i think next year our best bet is to stay with kosmina give him a year at least we know we will play to an ok standard and make finals under him.

then after that year see who is about.

I do not see the point of axing someone for someone who MIGHT do better then john when we know what john can do.

in other news this whole champions league debacle apparently is they become apart of the IPL before the champions league starts were out there in

if they stay int he rebel league we go in.[/quote]

I'm praying you meant Stubbins! If that muppet Rini goes anywhere near my club again I will not be accountable for my actions

Oh and anyone heard anything RE: ACL? Val said yesterday in the Tiser that the AFC would make a decision today.

Anyone bought their tickets yet or are you waiting for confirmation?

No way Im buying them before I know we are in.
Such a hassle refunding tickets and do you even get the booking fee back?
Is that stingy of me? aha

Also, none of us has ever asked/discussed if Stubbins would WANT to come back...

Our came in and chose Coolen over him even though he'd served his apprenticeship under Vidmar(ha!)and had been in charge all pre-season etc

I mean, the lure of first team coach in his home country would be pretty strong, but who's to say he would want to work with us.

PS it was Stubbins that brought Leckie to us if I recall too when nobody else in Victoria's two teams bothered to

Really think we missed a trick there

Oi, you're not nicking Serg. He's settling in nicely to his first full season at Birks (only got half a season last year) and we don't want to lose him just yet.

Seriously, I don't think either of those would offer much more than Kossie at the moment. We also need to remember that Kossie is working with someone else's squad, hasn't had a preseason to prepare it and it would seem that he has some talented players who have attitude issues ... well, one that I can think of anyway. The squad is unbalanced (thanks Rini, you did a great job mate). Quite frankly, he's done a bloody good job with the mob he's got. Hell, he's got Brucey running more than he's ever done in his life, now that's an achievement.

I think the club management should definitely have a look around to see what coaches they can get, but I don't think extending Kossie's term is such a bad thing. His strengths may not lie in the 'modern, pretty' game, (he's go Luca to lean on there) but he does know how to prepare a team and to get them all working at or above their potential. THAT's what that idiot Dutchman destroyed and it's what our coach next year has to rebuild first. I think Kossie can do that - mind you, there would be other coaches who can do that too which is why having a careful look around first isn't a bad idea.

I'm praying you meant Stubbins! If that muppet Rini goes anywhere near my club again I will not be accountable for my actions[/quote]

yes stubbins lol

an Adelaide now article said if the team enters the ipl league and stops playing int he rebel league then Adelaide will be kicked out

if they continue in the rebel league then we stay in

lets just hope they are still in the rebel league up until the acl league starts its a shame though they are basically saying if they join ipl 1 day before the acl starts then they will go into acl and adelaide will be kicked out. I hope not

I agree with GA. JVS has brought in a philosophy to the Heart that will stay with them forever. He has played a big part of the club's coach education and hence has two potential successors. JVS's paycheck is worth every penny for the legacy that he will leave at the Heart. Whoever we bring in, we need to have a good internal coach education system to a club philosophy so that if a senior coach leaves, we'll have some assistants that will hopefully be ready to pick up from where we left off. Otherwise, I would love to have Stubbins back.

Anyone thought that we should consider John Aloisi? Surely he'll be disappointed if he misses out on the Heart job. He is very highly rated coach over there and I would be happy to see us take on an up and coming coach.

Was going to wait for confirmation, but my mate bought his today, so I followed suit.


IIRC, Victory were trialling him/going to offer him a youth team place when we rushed in with a senior team deal.

Definitely waiting for official confirmation before committing funds to the ACL cause.

As for Kosi, he is playing with one hand behind his back after Foolem gutted a squad that finished 3rd. I predict we'll do okay in the ACL, Kosi will get 1-2 yr deal, will be able to reshape the squad and we'll be there or thereabouts the top6 next season.

If we were to go with a young Aussie coach then John Aloisi is my choice as well.

As for the AFCCL, I am going to wait til I know we are in it as I am buying tickets for 4.

Edited by general ashnak: 28/2/2012 10:06:59 PM