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Channel 7 just ran a story on the fan frustration. Glenn Elliott basically brushing off all complaints saying there's nothing they can do. ](*,)

Honestly, how fucking thick can this club get.
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Was impressed with Barbiero last night. He didn't set the world on fire, but he did get stuck in, made some good tackles and even produced some good through balls.
Golec has always been my choice in front of Boogard, hope he stays injury free and Kossie keeps picking the tall, fast guy.
Watson looks very good in that position, pity Malik and he are competitors for it as Ossie is very cultured there as well.

Poor Bruce, but lucky for speedy Jeronimo. Jero certainly knows how to put the ball in the net.

Can't stomach those commentators. Schmeltz's running into Golec was a definite penalty for Robbie Slater before HE'D EVEN SEEN THE REPLAY, all he had to go on was a camera shot from the 3rd tier of the Western stand - what a complete clown he is!
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redcup wrote:

Poor Bruce, but lucky for speedy Jeronimo. Jero certainly knows how to put the ball in the net.


Jero scored as many goals in one game as Djite has this season - if Jero doesn't start next game it's time to put Kossie in a home.
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ducky42 wrote:
Channel 7 just ran a story on the fan frustration. Glenn Elliott basically brushing off all complaints saying there's nothing they can do. ](*,)

Honestly, how fucking thick can this club get.


As has been said by a few people the club cant do anything about weslo ?

Hopefully the club can do something talk to the fans and find a better security group wish the club would just buy hind marsh already ahh dreams.


Glad to see us get another good win even if we fell asleep in the last 5 minutes. And good to see the crowd coming back finally.



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Adelaide United: Down to 11 men

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I like Adelaide United: Down to 11 men.

Catchy and true - especially if it is used as a bay banner to replace active support.

I really appreciated both ends protests, it must be noted from the Western Stand point of view that the South End protest had a much bigger impact and response - I heard lots of people talk about it and almost everyone I handed out flyers to was interested in why it was happening or already knew from Twitter, the internet in general or news sources. Those who didn't (generally an older crowd) were fully supportive of the action when the issues that were being experienced where highlighted.

This action needs to continue and we will see an improvement. The general fan of AUFC supports the actions of the active supporters and want them to be loud and proud.

Take heart and keep it up everyone. The Western Stand at least is (for the majority from the seems of it) behind you.

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General Ashnak wrote:
I like Adelaide United: Down to 11 men.

Catchy and true - especially if it is used as a bay banner to replace active support.

I really appreciated both ends protests, it must be noted from the Western Stand point of view that the South End protest had a much bigger impact and response - I heard lots of people talk about it and almost everyone I handed out flyers to was interested in why it was happening or already knew from Twitter, the internet in general or news sources. Those who didn't (generally an older crowd) were fully supportive of the action when the issues that were being experienced where highlighted.

This action needs to continue and we will see an improvement. The general fan of AUFC supports the actions of the active supporters and want them to be loud and proud.

Take heart and keep it up everyone. The Western Stand at least is (for the majority from the seems of it) behind you.


Yeah I was pleasantly surprised by the warm round of applause both protests received from the western stand. I too heard chatter around showing people knew what was going on. Good ol' internet...
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Davide82 wrote:
General Ashnak wrote:
I like Adelaide United: Down to 11 men.

Catchy and true - especially if it is used as a bay banner to replace active support.

I really appreciated both ends protests, it must be noted from the Western Stand point of view that the South End protest had a much bigger impact and response - I heard lots of people talk about it and almost everyone I handed out flyers to was interested in why it was happening or already knew from Twitter, the internet in general or news sources. Those who didn't (generally an older crowd) were fully supportive of the action when the issues that were being experienced where highlighted.

This action needs to continue and we will see an improvement. The general fan of AUFC supports the actions of the active supporters and want them to be loud and proud.

Take heart and keep it up everyone. The Western Stand at least is (for the majority from the seems of it) behind you.


Yeah I was pleasantly surprised by the warm round of applause both protests received from the western stand. I too heard chatter around showing people knew what was going on. Good ol' internet...


Can't speak for the north end but the south end appreciated the applause from the western stand when we started Adelaide I love you.

If we can get rid of a some things that basically shoots ourselves in the foot we can really do something special with active support at hindmarsh.

We know a few in south end really want to get chants going to involve the western stand more. Only takes a few in the stand to chant and then it will catch on an like general said make sure it's clean an simple.

But we ain't stopping this we are now standing up and it's not only active supporters it's everyone which is good.

We are Adelaide united after all.
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Like i have said in previous posts i myself have not seen weslo do the stuff that has been said they have done and im not int he active support groups but do sit near them for the atmosphere and i have to say the way the guys got there point across was very well done well done guys. You give the guys so much atmosphere at games it is why i sit close without you it was like i was watching a CCM game.
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Was thinking of an idea the other day that could improve the history, tradition and atmosphere at AUFC games. I was thinking, how great would it be if we had a team song, not like united is Rolling Along but more along the lines of YNWA, a song to be sung just after the warm ups to provide real nerves for the opposition. But then I thought, what song? Then I was reminded of the song Wonderwall by Oasis which also happens to be a Red Army chant. Now I know it wouldn't catch on immediately but if we had a few game where we gave out cheap, $5 scarves and then had the lyrics up on the big screen after a chant by the north and south end, scarves up for the Adelaide (as well as the announcer guy mentioning it), people might do it. Even if they just put their scarves up and only RA and the south end sung (and a few others). It would look and sound magnificent.

I know it's unlikely and some will disagree but just an idea. :)
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I just want to say and not everyone will agree but i am happy with out owners.
They have done as much or even more then owners in the past and are sticking by the club.
I know some people wish they weren't around but most of those people said it as soon as they signed because they were from an AFL background.
As far as i see it they have spent alot of money on players, On bringing youth through, 2 marquees how many teams have that ? Rewarding us supporters and being very connected with us fans too bad about the site.
I know alot of people dont like them but when you look around the a-league i feel we have some of the better owners and glad they have our club atm some people feel they might not be around to much longer but i think they will.
Ok rant over just wanted to write something hearing alot of bashing about them since this rini saga has started again. Just one mans view lol

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that may be the case but the club itself (admin) is run very poorly for mine. My wife is a WSW member so I see the way they deal with their members and I have to say they appear to be streaks ahead of the amateur operation that is Adelaide Utd.
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To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.
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liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
I just want to say and not everyone will agree but i am happy with out owners.
They have done as much or even more then owners in the past and are sticking by the club.
I know some people wish they weren't around but most of those people said it as soon as they signed because they were from an AFL background.
As far as i see it they have spent alot of money on players, On bringing youth through, 2 marquees how many teams have that ? Rewarding us supporters and being very connected with us fans too bad about the site.
I know alot of people dont like them but when you look around the a-league i feel we have some of the better owners and glad they have our club atm some people feel they might not be around to much longer but i think they will.
Ok rant over just wanted to write something hearing alot of bashing about them since this rini saga has started again. Just one mans view lol

Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 15/1/2013 03:20:59 AM


I'm not happy at all about their treatment of the fans or their lack of marketing, however, i'm not advocating that we dump them unceremoniously (not that we could anyway). Essentially we need to start a dialogue with the club, who have up until now and still to some degree been ignoring us. The blatant dismissal of the problems facing the active supporters was a slap in the face though and we needed to show them that you can't treat the fans badly and not expect some sort of reaction.

I think they could do well if they really want to implement alot of the things they "talk" about. As a financial member i'm waiting for the next members meeting to come along, the whole point of shelling out the extra dough was to have a voice in how the club is run. I strongly recommend any and all financial members who have issues with the club come to the next members meeting so we can voice our concerns and (hopefully) get some answers.

In totally unrelated AUFC news, Val has written an article about how Kossie and Serg don't speak to each other. Take it with a grain of salt being an article by Val, but the main thing is that it looks like Serg is staying out till the end of his contract. Apparently there is a clause that if he played 20 games he could extend the contract which is impossible to implement now however we may well see him on the bench for the next game. article below.

Kossie and Sergio don't have a "Relationship"
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milan_7 wrote:
To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.


I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts...
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Ye I can't seem to remember Bianco running the club any better than the current mob. The only difference in my mind was the fact that people recognised him as a football man and were more willing to accept him than some AFL guys.
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Coverdale wrote:
that may be the case but the club itself (admin) is run very poorly for mine. My wife is a WSW member so I see the way they deal with their members and I have to say they appear to be streaks ahead of the amateur operation that is Adelaide Utd.


And the money being used to fund WSW could be spent by the FFA on the HAL itself... in other words, it's easy to spend big bucks on marketing when you're using other people's money. Strictly my opinion.

That being said, having WSW no doubt helped seal the new TV deal which will provide a bigger return to the existing clubs, so it's all a catch 22.
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RedEyeRob wrote:
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To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.


I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts...
IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united.
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milan_7 wrote:
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To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.


I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts...
IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united.


And broke

I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though

Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week

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Davide82 wrote:
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RedEyeRob wrote:
milan_7 wrote:
To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.


I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts...
IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united.


And broke

I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though

Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week

Edited by davide82: 15/1/2013 01:29:54 PM
Not in anyway do I want them to go right now, but would like them to change their thinking.
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Davide82 wrote:
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To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.


I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts...
IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united.


And broke

I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though

Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week

Edited by davide82: 15/1/2013 01:29:54 PM


All fair points milan_7 but Davide is right. All that spending + business failures pushed Bianco out of the picture. The fan days were good. I went to one and will probably never go back, but they are particularly good for families... or dreamers like me that will NEVER get to step onto a beautiful surface like Hindmarsh :lol:

Regarding post match meals... i've stated this before. All those events Bianco did... where was my invite? All the free tickets going around, where was mine? You had to be in the circle, which usually meant being a customer of Bianco. This of course is totally cool with me, but no one can argue this as an AUFC club benefit - it was in fact a Bianco customer benefit.

I am no apologist, i'd rather call things as they are. And right now 3 things are pissing me off about these owners:

1). The statement from Glen Elliot regarding the supporter issues. I will not side with the supporters or Weslo at this stage because i sit dead centre in the East, but i expect the club to listen to the fans and spearhead friendly talks between all parties. That is the LEAST it can do.

2). The AUFC Supporter Committee that jessesdad sits on appears to have gone to shit. What was a great initiative and provided us with great insight into the club has now disappeared... maybe not for good, but it needs to come back ASAP.

3). The AUFC Membership. Again another great idea, but reading a few responses on here, including yours Davide, it shows no one is actually receiving any benefit from it??

I'm ok with the club under-delivering. It is a tough economic climate out there and AUFC is not immune to cutting costs. BUT specifically on points 2 and 3, the club absolutely, positively CANNOT promise something and then under-deliver, especially when you're taking fans money (point 3). I didn't sign up and i'm kinda happy about it now.

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milan_7 wrote:
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milan_7 wrote:
To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.


I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts...
IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united.


PS: forgot to address that comment... i agree 100%... losing Dom Rinaldo was not good for us. Griffin has kinda stepped up to the plate as a club spokesman, but i don't think he's the right man for all media responses. Perhaps Elliot should do more in front of the camera (?)

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RedEyeRob wrote:
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To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us.


I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts...
IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united.


And broke

I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though

Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week

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All fair points milan_7 but Davide is right. All that spending + business failures pushed Bianco out of the picture. The fan days were good. I went to one and will probably never go back, but they are particularly good for families... or dreamers like me that will NEVER get to step onto a beautiful surface like Hindmarsh :lol:

Regarding post match meals... i've stated this before. All those events Bianco did... where was my invite? All the free tickets going around, where was mine? You had to be in the circle, which usually meant being a customer of Bianco. This of course is totally cool with me, but no one can argue this as an AUFC club benefit - it was in fact a Bianco customer benefit.

I am no apologist, i'd rather call things as they are. And right now 3 things are pissing me off about these owners:

1). The statement from Glen Elliot regarding the supporter issues. I will not side with the supporters or Weslo at this stage because i sit dead centre in the East, but i expect the club to listen to the fans and spearhead friendly talks between all parties. That is the LEAST it can do.

2). The AUFC Supporter Committee that jessesdad sits on appears to have gone to shit. What was a great initiative and provided us with great insight into the club has now disappeared... maybe not for good, but it needs to come back ASAP.

3). The AUFC Membership. Again another great idea, but reading a few responses on here, including yours Davide, it shows no one is actually receiving any benefit from it??

I'm ok with the club under-delivering. It is a tough economic climate out there and AUFC is not immune to cutting costs. BUT specifically on points 2 and 3, the club absolutely, positively CANNOT promise something and then under-deliver, especially when you're taking fans money (point 3). I didn't sign up and i'm kinda happy about it now.


Funny you wrote this and I recieved a club email about 2 hours ago giving details of a Club night at Tapestry wines and another Financial members meeting on the 11th of February (paranoid they are watching us much?). I've registered for both and I encourage all financial members to get on board ASAP to express our views to the club.
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that may be the case but the club itself (admin) is run very poorly for mine. My wife is a WSW member so I see the way they deal with their members and I have to say they appear to be streaks ahead of the amateur operation that is Adelaide Utd.


And the money being used to fund WSW could be spent by the FFA on the HAL itself... in other words, it's easy to spend big bucks on marketing when you're using other people's money. Strictly my opinion.

That being said, having WSW no doubt helped seal the new TV deal which will provide a bigger return to the existing clubs, so it's all a catch 22.


I'm not talking marketing, I'm talking membership engagement. It's not hard to run a professional operation surely. For me (it appears) still too "City" orientated.

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Have confirmed my attendance at both events. The Gerrard consortium and the Bianco days are similar to each other, both succeed and fail at different areas of managing the club and both could do things so much better.

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The difference is bianco made it feel like a club that we all shared together. There was a real "proud to be sth aussie" feeling , and a feeling that it was ours.

Tickets did not get sold often were handed out at local clubs and there was a feeling the club was building something. Which is something i dont understand why current management cannot do this as those tickets would not have been sold either way so why not give some away and hooe they come back.

Bianco did not make the club broke, he lost money personally in the gfc and tried to find other investors to support him.

Mistakes were made in biancos days, but you always felt like he and the club wanted aufc the be as accesable to everyone as possible.

Sure this may not be sustainable and i can understand new owners not being so generous but it does not cost alot of money to make it feel like the peoples club again.

The issue is not business management. The real issue is representing your fans. If you cannot do this there will not be much of a bottom line to manage.
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that may be the case but the club itself (admin) is run very poorly for mine. My wife is a WSW member so I see the way they deal with their members and I have to say they appear to be streaks ahead of the amateur operation that is Adelaide Utd.


And the money being used to fund WSW could be spent by the FFA on the HAL itself... in other words, it's easy to spend big bucks on marketing when you're using other people's money. Strictly my opinion.

That being said, having WSW no doubt helped seal the new TV deal which will provide a bigger return to the existing clubs, so it's all a catch 22.

This
I'm a bit over the WSW chest beating.
The club is funded by the FFA and they're actually using the money that other clubs generate to further their club.

I don't begrudge them and any extra leverage they can gain over the huge amount that the AFL spend on GWS is cheered by me and I fervently hope that GWS get back in their box, although I know that the AFL will keep pouring money into the area, as will the FFA, but I trust WSW will become self-sufficient first and stick it up the AFL,
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http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_adelaide-united-fans-up-in-arms_106099 Was this guy anyone on here ? made the whole thing sound like it was nothing really could of given better examples of what was going on lol

has anything else happened yet or still no resolvement over the issue ?

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The difference is bianco made it feel like a club that we all shared together. There was a real "proud to be sth aussie" feeling , and a feeling that it was ours.

Tickets did not get sold often were handed out at local clubs and there was a feeling the club was building something. Which is something i dont understand why current management cannot do this as those tickets would not have been sold either way so why not give some away and hooe they come back.

Bianco did not make the club broke, he lost money personally in the gfc and tried to find other investors to support him.

Mistakes were made in biancos days, but you always felt like he and the club wanted aufc the be as accesable to everyone as possible.

Sure this may not be sustainable and i can understand new owners not being so generous but it does not cost alot of money to make it feel like the peoples club again.

The issue is not business management. The real issue is representing your fans. If you cannot do this there will not be much of a bottom line to manage.


Didn't the club set up with would of been a very expensive fan day out in the barossa last season and will again this season ? we have fan days for you to bring your kids along to as well if im correct ? not sure about the after match dinners though lol

Not sure what they have done this season yet.
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Not really a fan day, its a day for financial members and only the first 200 can come. It is a completely different kind of event then im talking about.
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