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Kienchil wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:Davide82 wrote:milan_7 wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:milan_7 wrote:To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us. I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts... IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united. And broke I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week Edited by davide82: 15/1/2013 01:29:54 PM All fair points milan_7 but Davide is right. All that spending + business failures pushed Bianco out of the picture. The fan days were good. I went to one and will probably never go back, but they are particularly good for families... or dreamers like me that will NEVER get to step onto a beautiful surface like Hindmarsh :lol: Regarding post match meals... i've stated this before. All those events Bianco did... where was my invite? All the free tickets going around, where was mine? You had to be in the circle, which usually meant being a customer of Bianco. This of course is totally cool with me, but no one can argue this as an AUFC club benefit - it was in fact a Bianco customer benefit. I am no apologist, i'd rather call things as they are. And right now 3 things are pissing me off about these owners: 1). The statement from Glen Elliot regarding the supporter issues. I will not side with the supporters or Weslo at this stage because i sit dead centre in the East, but i expect the club to listen to the fans and spearhead friendly talks between all parties. That is the LEAST it can do. 2). The AUFC Supporter Committee that jessesdad sits on appears to have gone to shit. What was a great initiative and provided us with great insight into the club has now disappeared... maybe not for good, but it needs to come back ASAP. 3). The AUFC Membership. Again another great idea, but reading a few responses on here, including yours Davide, it shows no one is actually receiving any benefit from it?? I'm ok with the club under-delivering. It is a tough economic climate out there and AUFC is not immune to cutting costs. BUT specifically on points 2 and 3, the club absolutely, positively CANNOT promise something and then under-deliver, especially when you're taking fans money (point 3). I didn't sign up and i'm kinda happy about it now. Funny you wrote this and I recieved a club email about 2 hours ago giving details of a Club night at Tapestry wines and another Financial members meeting on the 11th of February (paranoid they are watching us much?). I've registered for both and I encourage all financial members to get on board ASAP to express our views to the club. That is incredibly ironic, but great news too.
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ShinAUFC wrote:Not really a fan day, its a day for financial members and only the first 200 can come. It is a completely different kind of event then im talking about. This is my biggest problem with it. I am starting to question the use of this additional financial members scheme. It just seems like it is trying to make some exclusive club of those that can afford to lay off extra dough for something that you only get something back if your quick on applications. Nothing productive has come of the AUMC inc, so far, and from recent reports it seems that their has been a communication breakdown between them and the club. I also think having events like this makes it a bit of an adults club (not bringing in the 200 only problem). The beauty of the members day was that you would bring your kids along and they could talk to, get signatures and kick a ball with their heroes.
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Schultzy wrote:ShinAUFC wrote:Not really a fan day, its a day for financial members and only the first 200 can come. It is a completely different kind of event then im talking about. This is my biggest problem with it. I am starting to question the use of this additional financial members scheme. It just seems like it is trying to make some exclusive club of those that can afford to lay off extra dough for something that you only get something back if your quick on applications. Nothing productive has come of the AUMC inc, so far, and from recent reports it seems that their has been a communication breakdown between them and the club. I also think having events like this makes it a bit of an adults club (not bringing in the 200 only problem). The beauty of the members day was that you would bring your kids along and they could talk to, get signatures and kick a ball with their heroes. im not sure about member days and if they have had one this season or not. But lets not forget all the school visits ect the guys did at the start of the season and during the year that they do go and do. I would love to have more member days though it is good to get out take your kids out to meet the players get a few autographs ect ect.
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Hopefully it gets better not worse.
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Worried about the effects it might have on the pitch since they want to bring other events in
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ShinAUFC wrote:Worried about the effects it might have on the pitch since they want to bring other events in As I gaze into my crystal Ball I see AU getting charged a much higher rent, Monster trucks and Crusty demons in the off season and outside concerts in the summer and the pitch and Hindmarsh on a par with Blue-tongue while NIB in Perth goes from strength to strength. Not happy at all, so I hope I'm way off the mark.
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Makes me really nervous moving forward. It could work well with fan relations based on recent issues that ORS were at the forefront, but it could also work in bad ways. Only time will tell.
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Capac
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RedEyeRob wrote:Davide82 wrote:milan_7 wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:milan_7 wrote:To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us. I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts... IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united. And broke I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week Edited by davide82: 15/1/2013 01:29:54 PM All fair points milan_7 but Davide is right. All that spending + business failures pushed Bianco out of the picture. The fan days were good. I went to one and will probably never go back, but they are particularly good for families... or dreamers like me that will NEVER get to step onto a beautiful surface like Hindmarsh :lol: Regarding post match meals... i've stated this before. All those events Bianco did... where was my invite? All the free tickets going around, where was mine? You had to be in the circle, which usually meant being a customer of Bianco. This of course is totally cool with me, but no one can argue this as an AUFC club benefit - it was in fact a Bianco customer benefit. I am no apologist, i'd rather call things as they are. And right now 3 things are pissing me off about these owners: 1). The statement from Glen Elliot regarding the supporter issues. I will not side with the supporters or Weslo at this stage because i sit dead centre in the East, but i expect the club to listen to the fans and spearhead friendly talks between all parties. That is the LEAST it can do. 2). The AUFC Supporter Committee that jessesdad sits on appears to have gone to shit. What was a great initiative and provided us with great insight into the club has now disappeared... maybe not for good, but it needs to come back ASAP. 3). The AUFC Membership. Again another great idea, but reading a few responses on here, including yours Davide, it shows no one is actually receiving any benefit from it?? I'm ok with the club under-delivering. It is a tough economic climate out there and AUFC is not immune to cutting costs. BUT specifically on points 2 and 3, the club absolutely, positively CANNOT promise something and then under-deliver, especially when you're taking fans money (point 3). I didn't sign up and i'm kinda happy about it now. In defense of Nick Bianco that man has done more for football in this state than almost anyone else. Most of the free tickets he gave out were to juniors encouraging people to come along, and the expenditure of the club wasn't the main problem I would say a $60 million debt for his company was what did it.
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Capac wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:Davide82 wrote:milan_7 wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:milan_7 wrote:To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us. I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts... IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united. And broke I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week Edited by davide82: 15/1/2013 01:29:54 PM All fair points milan_7 but Davide is right. All that spending + business failures pushed Bianco out of the picture. The fan days were good. I went to one and will probably never go back, but they are particularly good for families... or dreamers like me that will NEVER get to step onto a beautiful surface like Hindmarsh :lol: Regarding post match meals... i've stated this before. All those events Bianco did... where was my invite? All the free tickets going around, where was mine? You had to be in the circle, which usually meant being a customer of Bianco. This of course is totally cool with me, but no one can argue this as an AUFC club benefit - it was in fact a Bianco customer benefit. I am no apologist, i'd rather call things as they are. And right now 3 things are pissing me off about these owners: 1). The statement from Glen Elliot regarding the supporter issues. I will not side with the supporters or Weslo at this stage because i sit dead centre in the East, but i expect the club to listen to the fans and spearhead friendly talks between all parties. That is the LEAST it can do. 2). The AUFC Supporter Committee that jessesdad sits on appears to have gone to shit. What was a great initiative and provided us with great insight into the club has now disappeared... maybe not for good, but it needs to come back ASAP. 3). The AUFC Membership. Again another great idea, but reading a few responses on here, including yours Davide, it shows no one is actually receiving any benefit from it?? I'm ok with the club under-delivering. It is a tough economic climate out there and AUFC is not immune to cutting costs. BUT specifically on points 2 and 3, the club absolutely, positively CANNOT promise something and then under-deliver, especially when you're taking fans money (point 3). I didn't sign up and i'm kinda happy about it now. In defense of Nick Bianco that man has done more for football in this state than almost anyone else. Most of the free tickets he gave out were to juniors encouraging people to come along, and the expenditure of the club wasn't the main problem I would say a $60 million debt for his company was what did it. He left to save his company or he would of lost it poor guy hope he is getting a bit more in the green now ? also tickers are still given out to kids at school. I know my brother got chances at this school to go to free games if he wanted too a few during the year.
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General Ashnak
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OK, just an update on the continuation of the protest outcomes. A few of us met at the Joiners last night from general fans, South End and North End and we are endorsing an open letter to the club about where we would like to move forward from the club. As there is more I will make sure it is on here, at the very least in the forums.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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milan_7 wrote:Was thinking of an idea the other day that could improve the history, tradition and atmosphere at AUFC games. I was thinking, how great would it be if we had a team song, not like united is Rolling Along but more along the lines of YNWA, a song to be sung just after the warm ups to provide real nerves for the opposition. But then I thought, what song? Then I was reminded of the song Wonderwall by Oasis which also happens to be a Red Army chant. Now I know it wouldn't catch on immediately but if we had a few game where we gave out cheap, $5 scarves and then had the lyrics up on the big screen after a chant by the north and south end, scarves up for the Adelaide (as well as the announcer guy mentioning it), people might do it. Even if they just put their scarves up and only RA and the south end sung (and a few others). It would look and sound magnificent.
I know it's unlikely and some will disagree but just an idea. :) Bump. Thoughts?
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milan_7 wrote:milan_7 wrote:Was thinking of an idea the other day that could improve the history, tradition and atmosphere at AUFC games. I was thinking, how great would it be if we had a team song, not like united is Rolling Along but more along the lines of YNWA, a song to be sung just after the warm ups to provide real nerves for the opposition. But then I thought, what song? Then I was reminded of the song Wonderwall by Oasis which also happens to be a Red Army chant. Now I know it wouldn't catch on immediately but if we had a few game where we gave out cheap, $5 scarves and then had the lyrics up on the big screen after a chant by the north and south end, scarves up for the Adelaide (as well as the announcer guy mentioning it), people might do it. Even if they just put their scarves up and only RA and the south end sung (and a few others). It would look and sound magnificent.
I know it's unlikely and some will disagree but just an idea. :) Bump. Thoughts? https://www.facebook.com/groups/285618904897281/
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak wrote:milan_7 wrote:milan_7 wrote:Was thinking of an idea the other day that could improve the history, tradition and atmosphere at AUFC games. I was thinking, how great would it be if we had a team song, not like united is Rolling Along but more along the lines of YNWA, a song to be sung just after the warm ups to provide real nerves for the opposition. But then I thought, what song? Then I was reminded of the song Wonderwall by Oasis which also happens to be a Red Army chant. Now I know it wouldn't catch on immediately but if we had a few game where we gave out cheap, $5 scarves and then had the lyrics up on the big screen after a chant by the north and south end, scarves up for the Adelaide (as well as the announcer guy mentioning it), people might do it. Even if they just put their scarves up and only RA and the south end sung (and a few others). It would look and sound magnificent.
I know it's unlikely and some will disagree but just an idea. :) Bump. Thoughts? https://www.facebook.com/groups/285618904897281/ Dont have Facebook so can't see it, what is it?
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milan_7 wrote:milan_7 wrote:Was thinking of an idea the other day that could improve the history, tradition and atmosphere at AUFC games. I was thinking, how great would it be if we had a team song, not like united is Rolling Along but more along the lines of YNWA, a song to be sung just after the warm ups to provide real nerves for the opposition. But then I thought, what song? Then I was reminded of the song Wonderwall by Oasis which also happens to be a Red Army chant. Now I know it wouldn't catch on immediately but if we had a few game where we gave out cheap, $5 scarves and then had the lyrics up on the big screen after a chant by the north and south end, scarves up for the Adelaide (as well as the announcer guy mentioning it), people might do it. Even if they just put their scarves up and only RA and the south end sung (and a few others). It would look and sound magnificent.
I know it's unlikely and some will disagree but just an idea. :) Bump. Thoughts? Wouldn't it be good to do something distinctly South Australian. I've always thought TNT by ACDC would sound great being belted out by hundreds of people, especially the Oi Oi Oi part at the start :P. If you want to go something more anthemic then Flame Trees by Cold Chisel could work quite well (I know it's meant to be about Grafton but could work well for Adelaide)
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Capac wrote:
Wouldn't it be good to do something distinctly South Australian. I've always thought TNT by ACDC would sound great being belted out by hundreds of people, especially the Oi Oi Oi part at the start :P.
If you want to go something more anthemic then Flame Trees by Cold Chisel could work quite well (I know it's meant to be about Grafton but could work well for Adelaide)
For a start ACDC are not South Australian - Bon Scott was from WA and the others were from Vic + anything with Oi, OI, Oi MUST be avoided like the plague as it's about as cool as that Gangham style shit. At least Jim Barnes grew up at Elizabeth. Adelaide City when in the NSL used to play " We are the champions " after a win and " Simply the best " before games. The whole music for a club is fraught with taste problems and would be extremely difficult to co-ordinate. I suggest you leave it alone and don't give rival fans something to poke fun at. Edited by redcup: 27/1/2013 09:42:32 PM
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If watson starts next game i will just stop watching. The guy is way to clumsy and playing in such a huge position a turn over from him will always give them a chance and he did it all game. I think if malik was in the DM CCM would not of been so over us. Watson for the 1 or 2 games he has he has 10 bad games. Cassio had a bad defensive game which is rare but we also got killed big time through Bowles, Barbs went there and played better then he did which is unfortunate you can see bowles has potential but like watson so inconsistent and gets beaten to easy.
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redcup wrote:Capac wrote:
Wouldn't it be good to do something distinctly South Australian. I've always thought TNT by ACDC would sound great being belted out by hundreds of people, especially the Oi Oi Oi part at the start :P.
If you want to go something more anthemic then Flame Trees by Cold Chisel could work quite well (I know it's meant to be about Grafton but could work well for Adelaide)
For a start ACDC are not South Australian - Bon Scott was from WA and the others were from Vic + anything with Oi, OI, Oi MUST be avoided like the plague as it's about as cool as that Gangham style shit. At least Jim Barnes grew up at Elizabeth. Adelaide City when in the NSL used to play " We are the champions " after a win and " Simply the best " before games. The whole music for a club is fraught with taste problems and would be extremely difficult to co-ordinate. I suggest you leave it alone and don't give rival fans something to poke fun at. Edited by redcup: 27/1/2013 09:42:32 PM What is the difference between that and ole ole ole ole ole over and over again ? same thing both can be over used and get annoying lol Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi is an Aussie chant just like ole ole ole maby we should do aussie aussie to a little tune then ? lol Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2013 10:48:13 PM
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redcup wrote:Capac wrote:
Wouldn't it be good to do something distinctly South Australian. I've always thought TNT by ACDC would sound great being belted out by hundreds of people, especially the Oi Oi Oi part at the start :P.
If you want to go something more anthemic then Flame Trees by Cold Chisel could work quite well (I know it's meant to be about Grafton but could work well for Adelaide)
For a start ACDC are not South Australian - Bon Scott was from WA and the others were from Vic + anything with Oi, OI, Oi MUST be avoided like the plague as it's about as cool as that Gangham style shit. At least Jim Barnes grew up at Elizabeth. Adelaide City when in the NSL used to play " We are the champions " after a win and " Simply the best " before games. The whole music for a club is fraught with taste problems and would be extremely difficult to co-ordinate. I suggest you leave it alone and don't give rival fans something to poke fun at.Edited by redcup: 27/1/2013 09:42:32 PM I'm struggling to think why that would be high in your priorities for something which clearly will have a good outcome for atmosphere if it tinkered until a good result is found. Good suggestion capac.
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liverpoolfan2010 wrote:If watson starts next game i will just stop watching. The guy is way to clumsy and playing in such a huge position a turn over from him will always give them a chance and he did it all game. I think if malik was in the DM CCM would not of been so over us. Watson for the 1 or 2 games he has he has 10 bad games. Cassio had a bad defensive game which is rare but we also got killed big time through Bowles, Barbs went there and played better then he did which is unfortunate you can see bowles has potential but like watson so inconsistent and gets beaten to easy. I'm not a fan of watson, but to link it to one player is crazy. It's the overall strategy that is absent and kossie is losing his marbles as he ALWAYS does at this time of the season. I notice a tiser article suggesting the club's owners are concerned about his man-management before extending his contract. I can only hope that they see him as a stopgap measure which was needed and now look for a coach with success or upside someone like Stubbins or Merrick.
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General Ashnak wrote:OK, just an update on the continuation of the protest outcomes. A few of us met at the Joiners last night from general fans, South End and North End and we are endorsing an open letter to the club about where we would like to move forward from the club. As there is more I will make sure it is on here, at the very least in the forums. I curious what reason a general fan would have to get involved apart from self-indulgence.
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a general fan wanting to voice concerns that he has over the running of the club? just because your oblivious to issues does not mean they don't exist.
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Capac wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:Davide82 wrote:milan_7 wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:milan_7 wrote:To say that these guys are even close to Bianco is laughable. Respect your opinion but I'm suprised to hear that. Also, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say they are connected with us. I respect your opinion. Bianco is a die hard football man and was involved with football all the way down to grass roots. Can you please outline where and how the Bianco Group ran AUFC better than the Gerrard Consortium? I'm keen to hear your thoughts... IMO the fact that he genuinely cared about the club. Stuff like fan days, post match meals, not doing everything he could to cut costs even If it hurt the club. E.g before we had two media men then as soon as Gerard came in we have had little to no media exposure. Little things that made the club more (pardon the pun) united. And broke I have given the new owners a lot of leeway as all part of a learning curb. Their response to the fans petition was WAAAY out of order if you ask me but they have a chance over the rest of this season to rectify it in my eyes. anyone bagging them out too much should be careful what they wish for though Edit - learning curb? Too much larry david this week Edited by davide82: 15/1/2013 01:29:54 PM All fair points milan_7 but Davide is right. All that spending + business failures pushed Bianco out of the picture. The fan days were good. I went to one and will probably never go back, but they are particularly good for families... or dreamers like me that will NEVER get to step onto a beautiful surface like Hindmarsh :lol: Regarding post match meals... i've stated this before. All those events Bianco did... where was my invite? All the free tickets going around, where was mine? You had to be in the circle, which usually meant being a customer of Bianco. This of course is totally cool with me, but no one can argue this as an AUFC club benefit - it was in fact a Bianco customer benefit. I am no apologist, i'd rather call things as they are. And right now 3 things are pissing me off about these owners: 1). The statement from Glen Elliot regarding the supporter issues. I will not side with the supporters or Weslo at this stage because i sit dead centre in the East, but i expect the club to listen to the fans and spearhead friendly talks between all parties. That is the LEAST it can do. 2). The AUFC Supporter Committee that jessesdad sits on appears to have gone to shit. What was a great initiative and provided us with great insight into the club has now disappeared... maybe not for good, but it needs to come back ASAP. 3). The AUFC Membership. Again another great idea, but reading a few responses on here, including yours Davide, it shows no one is actually receiving any benefit from it?? I'm ok with the club under-delivering. It is a tough economic climate out there and AUFC is not immune to cutting costs. BUT specifically on points 2 and 3, the club absolutely, positively CANNOT promise something and then under-deliver, especially when you're taking fans money (point 3). I didn't sign up and i'm kinda happy about it now. In defense of Nick Bianco that man has done more for football in this state than almost anyone else. Most of the free tickets he gave out were to juniors encouraging people to come along, and the expenditure of the club wasn't the main problem I would say a $60 million debt for his company was what did it. That's not quite right he was generous financially in that he ran a loss on the club, he could have charged more as the current owners have, BUT some of those reasons for extra expenses were because of the cliquey way he ran the club which i think has held us back. Dom was on very good coin, vidmar was appointed over ange against the recommendations of the board because he licked bianco's arse, romario was brought out with apparently a huge fee, kossie & vidmar had their annual outbursts damaging the clubs reputation etc.
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lardface wrote:liverpoolfan2010 wrote:If watson starts next game i will just stop watching. The guy is way to clumsy and playing in such a huge position a turn over from him will always give them a chance and he did it all game. I think if malik was in the DM CCM would not of been so over us. Watson for the 1 or 2 games he has he has 10 bad games. Cassio had a bad defensive game which is rare but we also got killed big time through Bowles, Barbs went there and played better then he did which is unfortunate you can see bowles has potential but like watson so inconsistent and gets beaten to easy. I'm not a fan of watson, but to link it to one player is crazy. It's the overall strategy that is absent and kossie is losing his marbles as he ALWAYS does at this time of the season. I notice a tiser article suggesting the club's owners are concerned about his man-management before extending his contract. I can only hope that they see him as a stopgap measure which was needed and now look for a coach with success or upside someone like Stubbins or Merrick. i didnt not just blame watson what i did say is it malik was there it would of not been as bad. Then said bowles and cassio had bad games and we looked better when Barbs went to RB so when you have 3 players playing badly and you have a second sting midfield due to injuries and no striker what do you expect ??? i guess you can blame kossie if you want but if you stop and think not much he could of done. SVD wanted out and he was playing crap Djite has been doing the role he did better he might no score as much but he is creating more then SVD did. All this stuff about owners and Kossie is all Jurno bullshit them trying to make something where nothing is valkanis was always meant to take over next season i remember i think it was general on here ? talking about it at the start when kossie first took over. Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2013 11:51:12 PMEdited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2013 11:51:50 PMEdited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2013 11:52:22 PM
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Schultzy wrote:a general fan wanting to voice concerns that he has over the running of the club? just because your oblivious to issues does not mean they don't exist. That's fair i'm wondering what the motivation would be if he or she it doesn't have any first hand experience of these "concerns". Presumably to tell the active supporters that the vast majority of supporters have experienced no problem at all?
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lardface
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liverpoolfan2010 wrote:lardface wrote:liverpoolfan2010 wrote:If watson starts next game i will just stop watching. The guy is way to clumsy and playing in such a huge position a turn over from him will always give them a chance and he did it all game. I think if malik was in the DM CCM would not of been so over us. Watson for the 1 or 2 games he has he has 10 bad games. Cassio had a bad defensive game which is rare but we also got killed big time through Bowles, Barbs went there and played better then he did which is unfortunate you can see bowles has potential but like watson so inconsistent and gets beaten to easy. I'm not a fan of watson, but to link it to one player is crazy. It's the overall strategy that is absent and kossie is losing his marbles as he ALWAYS does at this time of the season. I notice a tiser article suggesting the club's owners are concerned about his man-management before extending his contract. I can only hope that they see him as a stopgap measure which was needed and now look for a coach with success or upside someone like Stubbins or Merrick. Im not sure you read the post and i did not just blame watson what i did say is it malik was there it would of not been as bad. Then said bowles and cassio had bad games and we looked better when Barbs went to RB so when you have 3 players playing badly and you have a second sting midfield due to injuries and no striker what do you expect ??? i guess you can blame kossie if you want but if you stop and think not much he could of done. SVD wanted out and he was playing crap Djite has been doing the role he did better he might no score as much but he is creating more then SVD did. All this stuff about owners and Kossie is all Jurno bullshit them trying to make something where nothing is valkanis was always meant to take over next season i remember someone talking about it at the start when kossie first took over. Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2013 11:51:12 PM I did read it i was commenting on the team trend rather than individual and one off poor performances. The man-management im not concerned about every coach has his favourites, i was repeating what was in the article, i'm more concerned about the long term future under Kossie he has never got the job done. I remember the valkanis talk, it's not going to happen and i would like it less than kossie continuing, he has no outside experience to draw from and the culture he has come from has been unsuccessful.
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about this hole kossie thing Lets be honest he was going to be fired you don't ask for a year contract say you want it then change your mind in a few days. He has done his usual kossie spit and walked out after probably being told you wont be needed next season.
i also got to say bad for him too say what he said about the owners when he left too they did pay his wages for the year even if you agree with how the owners are going or not.
Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 28/1/2013 03:47:39 PM
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I really feel bad for you guys.
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Who honestly wanted Kossie to continue? Not many.
A chance for fresh ideas and fresh approach.
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lardface wrote:Schultzy wrote:a general fan wanting to voice concerns that he has over the running of the club? just because your oblivious to issues does not mean they don't exist. That's fair i'm wondering what the motivation would be if he or she it doesn't have any first hand experience of these "concerns". Presumably to tell the active supporters that the vast majority of supporters have experienced no problem at all? I am a general fan lardface, I have never been a member of active support. I am wondering if you think that everything is sunshine and happiness around the club? :)
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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