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General Ashnak wrote:lardface wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Davide82 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:It isn't an active support charter, can I clear that up? I have nothing to do with active support. It is a supporter charter. So then what other supporters other than the active supporters really have an issue? If they do then what is it? I too would like an elaboration now actually....I'm confused I thought you and other "general supporters" were just showing support to the issues that active supporters have raised I personally have never had one single issue and nor has the vast majority of the people in the ground Still confused... I was happy to lend my support to help active supporters come up with a charter and a process to solving issues with WESLO etc but this seems to have turned into something else if what you are saying is true. Genuinely asking for an explanation without a hint of sarcasm etc PS Please do not answer with things like "direction of the club". Surely this isn't what this is all about. Confuse the message and you will get none of what you want. Seriously...I hope you guys are all clear if you want any sort of results Edited by davide82: 31/1/2013 10:27:48 AM No dramas Davide, you at least ask rather than demand. People have had noise makers confiscated, have been evicted for making donkey noises, told to move on whilst in standing areas, have had security initiated confrontations in front of their children, have had requests for assistance ignored (as in when someone is behaving anti socially security have done nothing about them after being asked) and these are things that have been happening in the Eastern and Western stand as well as North and South non active areas. A supporter charter sets out appropriate behavior for all supporters of the club while at home, and as away fans at other teams stadiums. Sure a lot of it will be around how active supporters should behave and the appropriate ways to allow them to do so in a safe and supportive environment, but it will go beyond that to assist security and supporters all around the stadium to have a better relationship in order to allow both to have a more positive stadium experience. I wasn't demanding i was asking and you were being cute with the replies, after the 3rd and 4th time it may seem like demanding. Now it is ironic that you said demand because that is exactly how the letter comes across, it asks for a a set of outcomes without explaining the reasons why they are required. It's not your role to decide on the outcomes, this is where the self-righteous attitude has crept in, you can suggest a solution to a problem and ask the club help to find a solution, but a unreasoned outcome shouldn't be a starting point. Whoever wrote the letter has put the only problem down as a lack of promotion of the club using the active supporters, which is not theirs to decide, and the security reasons you've given weren't even included! Finally if security is the only other problem you have and the vast majority of supporters do NOT have a problem with it, the broad dissatisfaction you've expressed in the letter is highly misleading. I would suggest the best outcome for this would be to put the ego away write down each specific problem and go talk to Elliott directly. No problems, enjoy your perception. The lack of points put forward by the letter and yourself to support the "extreme disillusionment" attributed to the majority of the fan base was a point of fact not perception. After i queried it and you insisted there were other reasons for members such as yourself to get involved you've avoided providing any details on what they were, to most logical people that would mean you were telling porkies. It's essentially a minor active support grumble and that's it. Edited by lardface: 2/2/2013 05:16:59 AM
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Schultzy wrote:The letter details some issues and asks three main points.
- To hold a public forum this is for all fans to get all issues of the club out into an open and face to face forum. not some club only for those with a financial membership but everyone, so that questions can be asked of both management, off field and on field issues.
- To promote active support In hindsight this could have been worded a little more specifically, but anything left vague on the letter was to be further delved into at the attendance of a meeting at some stage. While this is to do with general promotion and getting people back to the active areas (which have been severely harmed by weslo and hatamoto initiatives) it is also to do with the advertising and correct awareness of the Home end bays in themselves. Currently there is very little knowledge for the general fan on how they would go about getting a ticket. Some fans are rudely turned away by weslo without explanation on how they can gain a ticket to enter, as well as ticket booth staff not even knowing how to correctly allocate or swap a GA ticket for an active ticket.
- Supporter charter While this point is to contain some general points of entry and points for general fans outside of the active areas, this would be the predominant point which addresses many of the active support issues. These issues ranging from Security behaviour, spectator behaviour, banner approval systems, and other issues which involve all the relevant parties.
It was our aim for these three points to address the issues without going into extensive detail (mainly because I doubt they would have appreciated a 10 page letter, nor would they have read it all). These were three requests we made of the club, two of which(being the main two, charter and fan forum) are to include further dialogue with various parties and the AUFC community as a whole. This letter was to be an initiator for many discussions to come both in meetings and fan forums.
So far we have received a positive response. A phone call was made to one representative and some notification that it was pretty much a "yes" for all three requests. This representative was informed that a formal reply is being drafted and will be mailed out soon. From then we can see if this contact was successful and eventually if they are all talk or whether they are actually going to listen, take action and mend relationships with both active fans and the general AUFC community.
Edited by schultzy: 2/2/2013 12:13:11 AM Thanks for at least making an effort, the two things i would say on that are, one there's no mention of the other issues as you claimed earlier in the thread and two the point in bold what is the reason for this, because the concerns of fans who don't contribute very much money into the club shouldn't be high on the club's priorities.
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I have almost no desire to get involved in this conversation but I am surprised that some people are arguing so strongly after entering the conversation late in the piece. This is a just the latest part of a long and convoluted discussion of where the fans stand in the evolution of Adelaide United.
There are club/active support (AS) issues throughout the league and have been since day one. It's a vexed area because (at its best) AS provides colour and passion and entertainment to a game and reaches out to get other (passive?) fans engaged. On the other hand, AS also attracts a few idiots and is responsible for most of the (albeit biased) negative media coverage that soccer still receives.
Clearing the lines of communication between the club and AS is essential for AU to grow its fan base and build a culture of excitement at the ground. There will ALWAYS be problems. A lot of active support is hyped and beered up young men who get agro in groups. They also get happy and excited and loud and funny in groups - but you can't always predict which way it'll turn. Serious, open and transparent liaison between the club, AS and WESLO is necessary to ensure the safety and respectful treatment of security personal, AS members and the general fan base - and to deal with fallout quickly and fairly when that doesn't go to plan.
The letter the groups wrote may not be as well worded as it could have been but it is an invitation to re-open the dialogue and clear the air.
I am a financial member and season-ticket holder and I sit on the eastern side. I love the Hindmarsh experience and I take my family. We've never had trouble at the ground - BUT - I also care that some of the younger, louder and more active fans have had trouble (and caused trouble) and that some family fans have reported being badly treated by security if they've chosen to sit 'near' the active support. I care because those fans are part of the club.
This is mainly a WESLO issue but the frustration has come because the club reportedly hasn't responded all that well to the call of the AS for any kind of support. In my opinion the club needs to play a more even hand and prioritise relationships with the fans. In my experience the club has shown a desire to do this but has never prioritised it over any length of time.
Lardface, you suggest that, "the concerns of fans who don't contribute very much money into the club shouldn't be high on the club's priorities." I think this is a misunderstanding. Financial members pay a premium in order to support the club and supposedly get a say in club matters. There aren't many of us. But most casual or season ticket fans don't get any say - but they are the major financial base of the club. In a conversation about the culture of the club and relationship between the fans and the club they do deserve a say and the club does need to listen - or risk alienating their core support.
It is possible that AS members do get a bit egotistical about their contribution and value. AS at Hindmarsh has had about as murky a history as have the owners. Politics plays a big role. A united AS would benefit everyone. But it's natural for people who put their heart and soul into something to want to be recognised for their contribution. Organisations who neglect the welfare of their volunteers don't survive. It has always surprised me that AU, despite the cut-backs and the recognition that they are severely understaffed, seems not to have a genuine policy of volunteer engagement and support. Harnessing the goodwill would be a great outcome of this potential meeting.
As Davide has said recently (fairly forcefully :)) most fans aren't really touched by these issues in any tangible way. But I would point out that we are all affected by it in some way. If active support went away we'd notice and regret it. Even the 12 minutes silence recently showed what decent active support can do to change the game. The reawakening of the AS on 12 minutes lifted the crowd. Imagine what a larger, unified AS could do. I do agree that the current AS needs to show some level of humilty about its impact though. For whatever reason, its never become the 'voice' of Hindmarsh as some other AS groups have for their clubs.
Managers, players and owners will come and go and some will be missed more than others. A club culture in which the fans feel they have an investment, and in which they know they matter, survives any changes because it become a genuine community. People will always have loyalty to the communities that they belong to. AU hasn't yet managed this. Bit it's early days and this letter and call for discussion is another - entirely valid - part of working towards that goal.
We all want to run before we can walk. AU and the whole A-League have taken some massive steps but have also stumbled a fair bit. Learning to walk is all about getting the balance right. It's easier to do that when you've got people walking beside you ready to catch you when you begin to fall rather than laugh when you have. In my opinion this letter and the idea of clearing the air is genuinely and simply part of that process of learning to walk together as a whole club. The owners aren't right. The fans aren't right. We just have to agree what direction we're going in and start working together.
To end a long post I'd just say that any dialogue that makes fans feel the club is listening and helps the club understand that the fans are genuinely onside is a GOOD thing and I support it. Even if it doesn't directly affect me.
End of sermon. :oops:
Edited by jessesdad: 2/2/2013 11:42:04 AM
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Thank you Steve =d>
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Big game this week we win we are 4 points behind we loose can almost say we wont win the minor and will have to hope for finals.
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jessesdad wrote:I have almost no desire to get involved in this conversation but I am surprised that some people are arguing so strongly after entering the conversation late in the piece. This is a just the latest part of a long and convoluted discussion of where the fans stand in the evolution of Adelaide United.
There are club/active support (AS) issues throughout the league and have been since day one. It's a vexed area because (at its best) AS provides colour and passion and entertainment to a game and reaches out to get other (passive?) fans engaged. On the other hand, AS also attracts a few idiots and is responsible for most of the (albeit biased) negative media coverage that soccer still receives.
Clearing the lines of communication between the club and AS is essential for AU to grow its fan base and build a culture of excitement at the ground. There will ALWAYS be problems. A lot of active support is hyped and beered up young men who get agro in groups. They also get happy and excited and loud and funny in groups - but you can't always predict which way it'll turn. Serious, open and transparent liaison between the club, AS and WESLO is necessary to ensure the safety and respectful treatment of security personal, AS members and the general fan base - and to deal with fallout quickly and fairly when that doesn't go to plan.
The letter the groups wrote may not be as well worded as it could have been but it is an invitation to re-open the dialogue and clear the air.
I am a financial member and season-ticket holder and I sit on the eastern side. I love the Hindmarsh experience and I take my family. We've never had trouble at the ground - BUT - I also care that some of the younger, louder and more active fans have had trouble (and caused trouble) and that some family fans have reported being badly treated by security if they've chosen to sit 'near' the active support. I care because those fans are part of the club.
This is mainly a WESLO issue but the frustration has come because the club reportedly hasn't responded all that well to the call of the AS for any kind of support. In my opinion the club needs to play a more even hand and prioritise relationships with the fans. In my experience the club has shown a desire to do this but has never prioritised it over any length of time.
Lardface, you suggest that, "the concerns of fans who don't contribute very much money into the club shouldn't be high on the club's priorities." I think this is a misunderstanding. Financial members pay a premium in order to support the club and supposedly get a say in club matters. There aren't many of us. But most casual or season ticket fans don't get any say - but they are the major financial base of the club. In a conversation about the culture of the club and relationship between the fans and the club they do deserve a say and the club does need to listen - or risk alienating their core support.
It is possible that AS members do get a bit egotistical about their contribution and value. AS at Hindmarsh has had about as murky a history as have the owners. Politics plays a big role. A united AS would benefit everyone. But it's natural for people who put their heart and soul into something to want to be recognised for their contribution. Organisations who neglect the welfare of their volunteers don't survive. It has always surprised me that AU, despite the cut-backs and the recognition that they are severely understaffed, seems not to have a genuine policy of volunteer engagement and support. Harnessing the goodwill would be a great outcome of this potential meeting.
As Davide has said recently (fairly forcefully :)) most fans aren't really touched by these issues in any tangible way. But I would point out that we are all affected by it in some way. If active support went away we'd notice and regret it. Even the 12 minutes silence recently showed what decent active support can do to change the game. The reawakening of the AS on 12 minutes lifted the crowd. Imagine what a larger, unified AS could do. I do agree that the current AS needs to show some level of humilty about its impact though. For whatever reason, its never become the 'voice' of Hindmarsh as some other AS groups have for their clubs.
Managers, players and owners will come and go and some will be missed more than others. A club culture in which the fans feel they have an investment, and in which they know they matter, survives any changes because it become a genuine community. People will always have loyalty to the communities that they belong to. AU hasn't yet managed this. Bit it's early days and this letter and call for discussion is another - entirely valid - part of working towards that goal.
We all want to run before we can walk. AU and the whole A-League have taken some massive steps but have also stumbled a fair bit. Learning to walk is all about getting the balance right. It's easier to do that when you've got people walking beside you ready to catch you when you begin to fall rather than laugh when you have. In my opinion this letter and the idea of clearing the air is genuinely and simply part of that process of learning to walk together as a whole club. The owners aren't right. The fans aren't right. We just have to agree what direction we're going in and start working together.
To end a long post I'd just say that any dialogue that makes fans feel the club is listening and helps the club understand that the fans are genuinely onside is a GOOD thing and I support it. Even if it doesn't directly affect me.
End of sermon. :oops:
Edited by jessesdad: 2/2/2013 11:42:04 AM Indeed that part was a misunderstanding, my interpretation was a fan is someone who doesn't contribute to the club and supporter makes a financial contribution, the word used was fan. I don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with the tone of your post, an excellent sermon it was, but point regarding General Ashnak and Schultzy telling porkies remains correct. It's essentially an active support issue to refer to it as more than that and refuse to provide any details isn't a great look.
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Well done to the guys at the south end (red terrace) !!!!!!
Getting all stands involved in chants, i noticed a few went to opposing stands to try get people involved and were relaying the msgs back to the south end FANTASTIC!!.
Also i hope you guys noticed the appreciation you all received during this. Particularly when the red army were also involved.
I feel the active areas are starting to making some positive steps and hopefully they can grow from here.
Its also fantastic that so far atleast the clubs response to the open letter has been positive so lets hope all concerned can work together and achieve some favourable compromises.
Oh and according the shane on WATR's $500 were raised for the active areas by fans donating in money tins, FANTASTIC!
Things are dire around the club atm, but there seems to be ( touch wood ) some positive things happening to move forward with. If anything its has begun to bring people back together to achieve the same goal. hopefully this continues .
oh and regarding the game... Mckain is a true leader was busting his ass when we were 3-nil down and took no crap from anyone. He will be key in helping us out of this rut
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lardface wrote:Indeed that part was a misunderstanding, my interpretation was a fan is someone who doesn't contribute to the club and supporter makes a financial contribution, the word used was fan. I don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with the tone of your post, an excellent sermon it was, but point regarding General Ashnak and Schultzy telling porkies remains correct. It's essentially an active support issue to refer to it as more than that and refuse to provide any details isn't a great look. Enjoy your perception.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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First half we were just behind them second half we were the better team but defensive problems lost us the game. Next week hopefully it will be sorted out and we can play the second half type football all game against Melbourne. Malik and Mckain in DM Fyfe and Golec CB also would not mind to see Barbs as RB i have no confidence in Bowles or Watson in defensive roles bring bowles later on in the game as a RM.
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General Ashnak
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I have no confidence in Barbs full stop though :lol: If we are going to isolate our RBs the way we do it may as well be Watson. As for our central defenders, neither Boogaard or Fyfe fill me with any confidence, in many ways I would prefer to see McKain next to Golec and have Malik back in midfield.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak wrote:lardface wrote:Indeed that part was a misunderstanding, my interpretation was a fan is someone who doesn't contribute to the club and supporter makes a financial contribution, the word used was fan. I don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with the tone of your post, an excellent sermon it was, but point regarding General Ashnak and Schultzy telling porkies remains correct. It's essentially an active support issue to refer to it as more than that and refuse to provide any details isn't a great look. Enjoy your perception. Repeating that makes you look biitchy and lacking substance, notice the difference between jessesdad's post and yours. It's NOT hard to understand how there was a communication breakdown with you involved with the AUMC, often the worst types of people for those jobs volunteer for them. Still it's NOT too late to list all those other concerns you claimed existed i'm eager to read them. :^o ;)
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ShinAUFC wrote:Well done to the guys at the south end (red terrace) !!!!!!
Getting all stands involved in chants, i noticed a few went to opposing stands to try get people involved and were relaying the msgs back to the south end FANTASTIC!!.
Also i hope you guys noticed the appreciation you all received during this. Particularly when the red army were also involved.
I feel the active areas are starting to making some positive steps and hopefully they can grow from here.
Its also fantastic that so far atleast the clubs response to the open letter has been positive so lets hope all concerned can work together and achieve some favourable compromises.
Oh and according the shane on WATR's $500 were raised for the active areas by fans donating in money tins, FANTASTIC!
Things are dire around the club atm, but there seems to be ( touch wood ) some positive things happening to move forward with. If anything its has begun to bring people back together to achieve the same goal. hopefully this continues .
oh and regarding the game... Mckain is a true leader was busting his ass when we were 3-nil down and took no crap from anyone. He will be key in helping us out of this rut
+1 There were some good signs despite the drubbing yesterday. The back-and-forth between the two AS groups was great. At the moment the team is like a V8 with its spark plug wires out of sequence. If someone can tune the system well it'll purr again. General. Lardface. Pistols at dawn. (To be fair to General Jeremy, I have no doubt at all that he has the good of the club highest on his agenda and has volunteered his time to get the best outcome. We've known each other for quite a while and he's as passionate and true and Adelaide fan as I know. Maybe if you guys could calm it down a bit you'd find you were on the same side - for the good of the game...and all that.) Edited by jessesdad: 4/2/2013 05:45:20 PM
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No nothing like that jessedad, i wouldn't question his passion, i did query what these other issues with the club are and he didn't provide any reasons just some attitude, which is stupid as far as im concerned but i don't care to be honest. Your contribution was helpful so thanks. :d
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lardface wrote:General Ashnak wrote:lardface wrote:Indeed that part was a misunderstanding, my interpretation was a fan is someone who doesn't contribute to the club and supporter makes a financial contribution, the word used was fan. I don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with the tone of your post, an excellent sermon it was, but point regarding General Ashnak and Schultzy telling porkies remains correct. It's essentially an active support issue to refer to it as more than that and refuse to provide any details isn't a great look. Enjoy your perception. Repeating that makes you look biitchy and lacking substance, notice the difference between jessesdad's post and yours. It's NOT hard to understand how there was a communication breakdown with you involved with the AUMC, often the worst types of people for those jobs volunteer for them. Still it's NOT too late to list all those other concerns you claimed existed i'm eager to read them. :^o ;) I, for one am quite happy that a passionate AU supporter, and one who is pretty evenly balanced and unbiased as Jeremy is our rep. You seem to have a good grasp of the language and comprehension, so why are you not volunteering your skills? Edited by redcup: 4/2/2013 07:49:48 PM
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ShinAUFC wrote:Well done to the guys at the south end (red terrace) !!!!!!
Getting all stands involved in chants, i noticed a few went to opposing stands to try get people involved and were relaying the msgs back to the south end FANTASTIC!!.
Also i hope you guys noticed the appreciation you all received during this. Particularly when the red army were also involved.
I feel the active areas are starting to making some positive steps and hopefully they can grow from here.
Its also fantastic that so far atleast the clubs response to the open letter has been positive so lets hope all concerned can work together and achieve some favourable compromises.
Oh and according the shane on WATR's $500 were raised for the active areas by fans donating in money tins, FANTASTIC!
Things are dire around the club atm, but there seems to be ( touch wood ) some positive things happening to move forward with. If anything its has begun to bring people back together to achieve the same goal. hopefully this continues .
oh and regarding the game... Mckain is a true leader was busting his ass when we were 3-nil down and took no crap from anyone. He will be key in helping us out of this rut
I can definately tell you the south end lads truly do appreciate the cheers you gave towards both active support groups when we did the end to end chants. The south end lads also appreciated the western stand and the upper tier soirée stand joining in with a little back and forth chanting. We just hope this is the start of something special between all supporters because it has potential.
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liverpoolfan2010 wrote:First half we were just behind them second half we were the better team but defensive problems lost us the game. Next week hopefully it will be sorted out and we can play the second half type football all game against Melbourne. Malik and Mckain in DM Fyfe and Golec CB also would not mind to see Barbs as RB i have no confidence in Bowles or Watson in defensive roles bring bowles later on in the game as a RM. United have needed a good RB virtually all season. The clubs failure to replace Tee-boy on an injury loan with a good RB signals to me a lack of wanting to win. Can you imagine Ange's response in a similar situation? An indication of the difference between a winning team mentality and a make shift team if you ask me. I would piss Bowles off to the youth league and move someone quick and defensive minded down there, maybe Elsey. I would also promote Nabil to Right wing and piss Kostopoulos off too. We're without Bruce, but can't think of anyone to replace him. His workrate and ability to hold up the ball will be sorely missed. The thought of Thompson and Rojas attacking our slow fullbacks fills me with dread
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General Ashnak wrote:I have no confidence in Barbs full stop though :lol: If we are going to isolate our RBs the way we do it may as well be Watson. As for our central defenders, neither Boogaard or Fyfe fill me with any confidence, in many ways I would prefer to see McKain next to Golec and have Malik back in midfield. Played alot better then bowles or cassio against CCM when he moved into rb for the last 30 mins and we played alot better defensively can he play a full game there i duno. But seriously you would rather have the ball in Watson feet ? he himself caused 2 goals against CCM almost caused a goal in the first 4 mins against WSW turns the ball over way to much and in very very veeerrrry bad positions. To easily say yea watson any day over barbs is just a bit blind i think general but that is you're opinion of the guy you can have it lol We have needed a RB for 3 years now time to get one. Cassio needs to lift and play more games like his second half against WSW. Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 5/2/2013 12:35:02 AMEdited by liverpoolfan2010: 7/2/2013 09:21:13 AM
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redcup wrote:lardface wrote:General Ashnak wrote:lardface wrote:Indeed that part was a misunderstanding, my interpretation was a fan is someone who doesn't contribute to the club and supporter makes a financial contribution, the word used was fan. I don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with the tone of your post, an excellent sermon it was, but point regarding General Ashnak and Schultzy telling porkies remains correct. It's essentially an active support issue to refer to it as more than that and refuse to provide any details isn't a great look. Enjoy your perception. Repeating that makes you look biitchy and lacking substance, notice the difference between jessesdad's post and yours. It's NOT hard to understand how there was a communication breakdown with you involved with the AUMC, often the worst types of people for those jobs volunteer for them. Still it's NOT too late to list all those other concerns you claimed existed i'm eager to read them. :^o ;) I, for one am quite happy that a passionate AU supporter, and one who is pretty evenly balanced and unbiased as Jeremy is our rep. You seem to have a good grasp of the language and comprehension, so why are you not volunteering your skills? Edited by redcup: 4/2/2013 07:49:48 PM I don't want you to think i ignored your post but i've already made the point i wanted to regarding this, there's no need for it to drag out further.
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Hatchet buried, I will not be talking to lardface about anything to do with our areas of disagreement.
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Jesus, even this thread is full of trite drama.
Who stepped on the pissant nest?
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this thread is simply a mirror of united and our fans, Bill
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What purpose is the title.
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Aussie4ever4 wrote:What purpose is the title. Should be changed as is not the view of all supporters I think. And it has been sorted out now.
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Not really.... The board still as a while before they 'patch things up'
Anywho.....I'm still pumped by Fri nights game & my voice is still paying for it
Nice to see how Melb fans acting like whiny bi@@@@ when they get one thing against them after having it so good for so long :lol:
Best game I've been to atmosphere wise in a long time \:d/
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Jessesdad
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I'm in favour of a change. Overly negative, despite ongoing issues. Jeremy? It is a thread for all fans.
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ShinAUFC wrote:Well done to the guys at the south end (red terrace) !!!!!!
Getting all stands involved in chants, i noticed a few went to opposing stands to try get people involved and were relaying the msgs back to the south end FANTASTIC!!.
Also i hope you guys noticed the appreciation you all received during this. Particularly when the red army were also involved.
I feel the active areas are starting to making some positive steps and hopefully they can grow from here.
Definitely agree with this The back and forth chants were brilliant and it's good that the other stands are joining in too Hope to see more of it
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South End and the Army were BRILLIANT on Friday, liked how they opened it up for everyone. My voice is only just recovering! Best Atmosphere in a while and a brilliant result. Also, if anyone has a good pic of the North End Tifo that would be great.
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Vash
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In news that seems unrelated to this thread thanks to the agendas of certain people, Val is reporting that AU has signed a 21 year old Sydney-born striker playing in Croatia named Tomi Juric, on the recommendation of both Robbie Bajic who is playing over there, and Auerilo Vidmar who has been impressed with him during scouting for the youth team.
Welcome Tomi :)
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redcup
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Vash wrote:In news that seems unrelated to this thread thanks to the agendas of certain people, Val is reporting that AU has signed a 21 year old Sydney-born striker playing in Croatia named Tomi Juric, on the recommendation of both Robbie Bajic who is playing over there, and Auerilo Vidmar who has been impressed with him during scouting for the youth team.
Welcome Tomi :) Given Val's history I'll wait until I see him holding his shirt on the news. Great if true, although I've been wishing for a fullback all season. On Friday night's performance, Malik looks terrific, but now Cassio's out I expect we'll see Golec there - which would be a real shame as he's heaps better than Boogard. ](*,) Now it's on facebook, so it probably is true. Edited by redcup: 10/2/2013 04:20:39 PM
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SpawningSalmon
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redcup wrote:Vash wrote:In news that seems unrelated to this thread thanks to the agendas of certain people, Val is reporting that AU has signed a 21 year old Sydney-born striker playing in Croatia named Tomi Juric, on the recommendation of both Robbie Bajic who is playing over there, and Auerilo Vidmar who has been impressed with him during scouting for the youth team.
Welcome Tomi :) Given Val's history I'll wait until I see him holding his shirt on the news. Great if true, although I've been wishing for a fullback all season. On Friday night's performance, Malik looks terrific, but now Cassio's out I expect we'll see Golec there - which would be a real shame as he's heaps better than Boogard. ](*,) Already on the official club website. Don't mind seeing Golec getting a bit more forward, albeit a lot less central.
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