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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd again, direct from WHO Director General: https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---21-august-2020Several countries around the world are now experiencing fresh outbreaks after a long period with little or no transmission.
These countries are a cautionary tale for those that are now seeing a downward trend in cases.
Progress does not mean victory.
The fact remains that most people remain susceptible to this virus.
That’s why it’s vital that countries are able to quickly identify and prevent clusters, to prevent community transmission and the possibility of new restrictions.
No country can just ride this out until we have a vaccine.
A vaccine will be a vital tool, and we hope that we will have one as soon as possible.
But there’s no guarantee that we will, and even if we do have a vaccine, it won’t end the pandemic on its own.
We must all learn to control and manage this virus using the tools we have now, and to make the adjustments to our daily lives that are needed to keep ourselves and each other safe.
So-called lockdowns enabled many countries to suppress transmission and take the pressure off their health systems.
But lockdowns are not a long-term solution for any country.
We do not need to choose between lives and livelihoods, or between health and the economy. That’s a false choice. bump for you Pala Deceptively selective. He's clearly talking about places that had passed their first wave and didn't have many cases for some time at that point, not places that only just had a second wave. No wonder you cut the quote short before he continued saying "WHO is committed to working with all countries to move into a new stage of opening their economies, societies, schools and businesses safely. To do that, every single person must be involved. Every single person can make a difference. Every person, family, community and nation must make their own decisions, based on the level of risk where they live." Because that's exactly what Andrews is doing. If we open up too early we'll be right back where we started in a week or two. I'm also sure the "lives or livelihoods" comment was addressing countries where they don't have social services like Jobkeeper like we do. How is it deceptive when I provided the link to the actual source? Because you are intentionally misinterpreting the source. Its clear the WHO isn't saying lockdowns are not an important tool, rather that efforts should be made to avoid situations where they aren't necessary. Literally NOBODY is suggesting Victoria stay in lockdown indefinitely. Nice of you to crawl out from under your blanket, no misrepresentation, direct quote from WHO with link, and 3 seperate sources at that. England 6,000 cases in 2 days no lockdown. Melbourne 50 cases lockdown with billions in economic carnage and immeasurable psychological damage to its inhabitants, one is proportionate response the other isn’t. The UK economy shrank 20% last quarter - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/uk-economy-shrinks-more-than-20-per-cent-job-losses/12552538With COVID around, consumer spending and sentiment will be depressed.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd again, direct from WHO Director General: https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---21-august-2020Several countries around the world are now experiencing fresh outbreaks after a long period with little or no transmission.
These countries are a cautionary tale for those that are now seeing a downward trend in cases.
Progress does not mean victory.
The fact remains that most people remain susceptible to this virus.
That’s why it’s vital that countries are able to quickly identify and prevent clusters, to prevent community transmission and the possibility of new restrictions.
No country can just ride this out until we have a vaccine.
A vaccine will be a vital tool, and we hope that we will have one as soon as possible.
But there’s no guarantee that we will, and even if we do have a vaccine, it won’t end the pandemic on its own.
We must all learn to control and manage this virus using the tools we have now, and to make the adjustments to our daily lives that are needed to keep ourselves and each other safe.
So-called lockdowns enabled many countries to suppress transmission and take the pressure off their health systems.
But lockdowns are not a long-term solution for any country.
We do not need to choose between lives and livelihoods, or between health and the economy. That’s a false choice. bump for you Pala Deceptively selective. He's clearly talking about places that had passed their first wave and didn't have many cases for some time at that point, not places that only just had a second wave. No wonder you cut the quote short before he continued saying "WHO is committed to working with all countries to move into a new stage of opening their economies, societies, schools and businesses safely. To do that, every single person must be involved. Every single person can make a difference. Every person, family, community and nation must make their own decisions, based on the level of risk where they live." Because that's exactly what Andrews is doing. If we open up too early we'll be right back where we started in a week or two. I'm also sure the "lives or livelihoods" comment was addressing countries where they don't have social services like Jobkeeper like we do. How is it deceptive when I provided the link to the actual source? Because you are intentionally misinterpreting the source. Its clear the WHO isn't saying lockdowns are not an important tool, rather that efforts should be made to avoid situations where they aren't necessary. Literally NOBODY is suggesting Victoria stay in lockdown indefinitely. Nice of you to crawl out from under your blanket, no misrepresentation, direct quote from WHO with link, and 3 seperate sources at that. England 6,000 cases in 2 days no lockdown. Melbourne 50 cases lockdown with billions in economic carnage and immeasurable psychological damage to its inhabitants, one is proportionate response the other isn’t. Yep we're in a remarkable position covid wise where a little patience will see Victoria rejoin the rest of the Country out of lickdown but instead let's be like England. Great idea.
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AJF
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd again, direct from WHO Director General: https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---21-august-2020Several countries around the world are now experiencing fresh outbreaks after a long period with little or no transmission.
These countries are a cautionary tale for those that are now seeing a downward trend in cases.
Progress does not mean victory.
The fact remains that most people remain susceptible to this virus.
That’s why it’s vital that countries are able to quickly identify and prevent clusters, to prevent community transmission and the possibility of new restrictions.
No country can just ride this out until we have a vaccine.
A vaccine will be a vital tool, and we hope that we will have one as soon as possible.
But there’s no guarantee that we will, and even if we do have a vaccine, it won’t end the pandemic on its own.
We must all learn to control and manage this virus using the tools we have now, and to make the adjustments to our daily lives that are needed to keep ourselves and each other safe.
So-called lockdowns enabled many countries to suppress transmission and take the pressure off their health systems.
But lockdowns are not a long-term solution for any country.
We do not need to choose between lives and livelihoods, or between health and the economy. That’s a false choice. bump for you Pala Deceptively selective. He's clearly talking about places that had passed their first wave and didn't have many cases for some time at that point, not places that only just had a second wave. No wonder you cut the quote short before he continued saying "WHO is committed to working with all countries to move into a new stage of opening their economies, societies, schools and businesses safely. To do that, every single person must be involved. Every single person can make a difference. Every person, family, community and nation must make their own decisions, based on the level of risk where they live." Because that's exactly what Andrews is doing. If we open up too early we'll be right back where we started in a week or two. I'm also sure the "lives or livelihoods" comment was addressing countries where they don't have social services like Jobkeeper like we do. How is it deceptive when I provided the link to the actual source? Because you are intentionally misinterpreting the source. Its clear the WHO isn't saying lockdowns are not an important tool, rather that efforts should be made to avoid situations where they aren't necessary. Literally NOBODY is suggesting Victoria stay in lockdown indefinitely. Nice of you to crawl out from under your blanket, no misrepresentation, direct quote from WHO with link, and 3 seperate sources at that. England 6,000 cases in 2 days no lockdown. Melbourne 50 cases lockdown with billions in economic carnage and immeasurable psychological damage to its inhabitants, one is proportionate response the other isn’t. The UK economy shrank 20% last quarter - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/uk-economy-shrinks-more-than-20-per-cent-job-losses/12552538With COVID around, consumer spending and sentiment will be depressed. it aint like Aus is doing great economically either Australia in recession: Biggest economic contraction since Great Depression, ABS confirmsAustralia has suffered its deepest economic contraction since the 1930s with new figures showing GDP collapsing by 7 per cent through the June quarter. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-in-recession-biggest-economic-contraction-since-great-depression-abs-confirms-20200902-p55rk4.html
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AJF
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd again, direct from WHO Director General: https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---21-august-2020Several countries around the world are now experiencing fresh outbreaks after a long period with little or no transmission.
These countries are a cautionary tale for those that are now seeing a downward trend in cases.
Progress does not mean victory.
The fact remains that most people remain susceptible to this virus.
That’s why it’s vital that countries are able to quickly identify and prevent clusters, to prevent community transmission and the possibility of new restrictions.
No country can just ride this out until we have a vaccine.
A vaccine will be a vital tool, and we hope that we will have one as soon as possible.
But there’s no guarantee that we will, and even if we do have a vaccine, it won’t end the pandemic on its own.
We must all learn to control and manage this virus using the tools we have now, and to make the adjustments to our daily lives that are needed to keep ourselves and each other safe.
So-called lockdowns enabled many countries to suppress transmission and take the pressure off their health systems.
But lockdowns are not a long-term solution for any country.
We do not need to choose between lives and livelihoods, or between health and the economy. That’s a false choice. bump for you Pala Deceptively selective. He's clearly talking about places that had passed their first wave and didn't have many cases for some time at that point, not places that only just had a second wave. No wonder you cut the quote short before he continued saying "WHO is committed to working with all countries to move into a new stage of opening their economies, societies, schools and businesses safely. To do that, every single person must be involved. Every single person can make a difference. Every person, family, community and nation must make their own decisions, based on the level of risk where they live." Because that's exactly what Andrews is doing. If we open up too early we'll be right back where we started in a week or two. I'm also sure the "lives or livelihoods" comment was addressing countries where they don't have social services like Jobkeeper like we do. How is it deceptive when I provided the link to the actual source? Because you are intentionally misinterpreting the source. Its clear the WHO isn't saying lockdowns are not an important tool, rather that efforts should be made to avoid situations where they aren't necessary. Literally NOBODY is suggesting Victoria stay in lockdown indefinitely. Nice of you to crawl out from under your blanket, no misrepresentation, direct quote from WHO with link, and 3 seperate sources at that. England 6,000 cases in 2 days no lockdown. Melbourne 50 cases lockdown with billions in economic carnage and immeasurable psychological damage to its inhabitants, one is proportionate response the other isn’t. Yep we're in a remarkable position covid wise where a little patience will see Victoria rejoin the rest of the Country out of lickdown but instead let's be like England. Great idea. If only it was a lickdown, that would be much easier to take!!
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paladisious
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd again, direct from WHO Director General: https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---21-august-2020Several countries around the world are now experiencing fresh outbreaks after a long period with little or no transmission.
These countries are a cautionary tale for those that are now seeing a downward trend in cases.
Progress does not mean victory.
The fact remains that most people remain susceptible to this virus.
That’s why it’s vital that countries are able to quickly identify and prevent clusters, to prevent community transmission and the possibility of new restrictions.
No country can just ride this out until we have a vaccine.
A vaccine will be a vital tool, and we hope that we will have one as soon as possible.
But there’s no guarantee that we will, and even if we do have a vaccine, it won’t end the pandemic on its own.
We must all learn to control and manage this virus using the tools we have now, and to make the adjustments to our daily lives that are needed to keep ourselves and each other safe.
So-called lockdowns enabled many countries to suppress transmission and take the pressure off their health systems.
But lockdowns are not a long-term solution for any country.
We do not need to choose between lives and livelihoods, or between health and the economy. That’s a false choice. bump for you Pala Deceptively selective. He's clearly talking about places that had passed their first wave and didn't have many cases for some time at that point, not places that only just had a second wave. No wonder you cut the quote short before he continued saying "WHO is committed to working with all countries to move into a new stage of opening their economies, societies, schools and businesses safely. To do that, every single person must be involved. Every single person can make a difference. Every person, family, community and nation must make their own decisions, based on the level of risk where they live." Because that's exactly what Andrews is doing. If we open up too early we'll be right back where we started in a week or two. I'm also sure the "lives or livelihoods" comment was addressing countries where they don't have social services like Jobkeeper like we do. How is it deceptive when I provided the link to the actual source? Because you are intentionally misinterpreting the source. Its clear the WHO isn't saying lockdowns are not an important tool, rather that efforts should be made to avoid situations where they aren't necessary. Literally NOBODY is suggesting Victoria stay in lockdown indefinitely. Nice of you to crawl out from under your blanket, no misrepresentation, direct quote from WHO with link, and 3 seperate sources at that. England 6,000 cases in 2 days no lockdown. Melbourne 50 cases lockdown with billions in economic carnage and immeasurable psychological damage to its inhabitants, one is proportionate response the other isn’t. The UK economy shrank 20% last quarter - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/uk-economy-shrinks-more-than-20-per-cent-job-losses/12552538With COVID around, consumer spending and sentiment will be depressed. it aint like Aus is doing great economically either Australia in recession: Biggest economic contraction since Great Depression, ABS confirmsAustralia has suffered its deepest economic contraction since the 1930s with new figures showing GDP collapsing by 7 per cent through the June quarter. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-in-recession-biggest-economic-contraction-since-great-depression-abs-confirms-20200902-p55rk4.html You're right, 7 is less than 20, thanks for pointing it out. The recession was already coming in Australia covid or not, although of course the pandemic made it worse.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd again, direct from WHO Director General: https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---21-august-2020Several countries around the world are now experiencing fresh outbreaks after a long period with little or no transmission.
These countries are a cautionary tale for those that are now seeing a downward trend in cases.
Progress does not mean victory.
The fact remains that most people remain susceptible to this virus.
That’s why it’s vital that countries are able to quickly identify and prevent clusters, to prevent community transmission and the possibility of new restrictions.
No country can just ride this out until we have a vaccine.
A vaccine will be a vital tool, and we hope that we will have one as soon as possible.
But there’s no guarantee that we will, and even if we do have a vaccine, it won’t end the pandemic on its own.
We must all learn to control and manage this virus using the tools we have now, and to make the adjustments to our daily lives that are needed to keep ourselves and each other safe.
So-called lockdowns enabled many countries to suppress transmission and take the pressure off their health systems.
But lockdowns are not a long-term solution for any country.
We do not need to choose between lives and livelihoods, or between health and the economy. That’s a false choice. bump for you Pala Deceptively selective. He's clearly talking about places that had passed their first wave and didn't have many cases for some time at that point, not places that only just had a second wave. No wonder you cut the quote short before he continued saying "WHO is committed to working with all countries to move into a new stage of opening their economies, societies, schools and businesses safely. To do that, every single person must be involved. Every single person can make a difference. Every person, family, community and nation must make their own decisions, based on the level of risk where they live." Because that's exactly what Andrews is doing. If we open up too early we'll be right back where we started in a week or two. I'm also sure the "lives or livelihoods" comment was addressing countries where they don't have social services like Jobkeeper like we do. How is it deceptive when I provided the link to the actual source? Because you are intentionally misinterpreting the source. Its clear the WHO isn't saying lockdowns are not an important tool, rather that efforts should be made to avoid situations where they aren't necessary. Literally NOBODY is suggesting Victoria stay in lockdown indefinitely. Nice of you to crawl out from under your blanket, no misrepresentation, direct quote from WHO with link, and 3 seperate sources at that. England 6,000 cases in 2 days no lockdown. Melbourne 50 cases lockdown with billions in economic carnage and immeasurable psychological damage to its inhabitants, one is proportionate response the other isn’t. The UK economy shrank 20% last quarter - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/uk-economy-shrinks-more-than-20-per-cent-job-losses/12552538With COVID around, consumer spending and sentiment will be depressed. it aint like Aus is doing great economically either Australia in recession: Biggest economic contraction since Great Depression, ABS confirmsAustralia has suffered its deepest economic contraction since the 1930s with new figures showing GDP collapsing by 7 per cent through the June quarter. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-in-recession-biggest-economic-contraction-since-great-depression-abs-confirms-20200902-p55rk4.html You're right, 7 is less than 20, thanks for pointing it out. The recession was already coming in Australia covid or not, although of course the pandemic made it worse. This. The UK are doing 3 times worse than us. But to be more on point, the UK is an example of poor health and economic management. I should be recognised however that the 7% dip has been a result of a collective effort by State and Federal Governments. I think the numbers would be much worse otherwise.
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A 38 minute watch, but a comprehensive, evidence-based look at who is to blame, and who is not to blame: World Health Organization: Bad guy or fall guy? - YouTube
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Israel back on a 3 week nation wide hard lockdown
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+xIsrael back on a 3 week nation wide hard lockdown
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But I thought it was only power hungry dictator Dan imposing a hard lockdown? Wow, its almost as if hard lockdowns are something that medical experts agree with.
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We're getting close: 
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have all the anti govt protesters in Belarus died from c19 yet ? thought not
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+xWe're getting close: Mad keen on making that cash lol -PB
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+xhave all the anti govt protesters in Belarus died from c19 yet ? thought not Soon they'll need a vaccine for Russian bullets. -PB
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+x+xWe're getting close: Mad keen on making that cash lol -PB Already made it with the prepayments.
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Sweden records its fewest daily Covid-19 cases since MarchChief epidemiologist puts low number of cases down to light-touch ‘sustainable’ approach While many European countries are seeing their infection rates surge to levels not seen since the peak of the Covid-19 pandemic, Sweden – whose light-touch approach has made it an international outlier – has recorded the fewest daily cases since the virus emerged. The Scandinavian country’s rolling seven-day average of new cases stood at 108 on Tuesday, its lowest level since 13 March. Data from the Swedish national health agency showed only 1.2% of its 120,000 tests last week came back positive. According to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, Sweden’s 14-day cumulative total of new cases is 22.2 per 100,000 inhabitants, against 279 in Spain, 158.5 in France, 118 in the Czech Republic, 77 in Belgium and 59 in the UK, all of which imposed lockdowns this spring. Sweden also has fewer new daily infections than Norway and Denmark, its Nordic neighbours. Thirteen Covid-19 patients are in intensive care in Swedish hospitals, and its seven day average of coronavirus-related deaths is zero. “We don’t have the resurgence of the disease that many countries have,” Anders Tegnell, the country’s chief epidemiologist and architect of its no-lockdown strategy, told broadcaster France-24 in an interview, adding that the country was broadly happy with its overall strategy. “In the end, we will see how much difference it will make to have a strategy that’s more sustainable, that you can keep in place for a long time, instead of the strategy that means that you lock down, open up and lock down over and over again.”
Tegnell told France-24 the country’s high mortality rate was not related to its overall strategy but rather to a failure to prevent the catastrophic spread of the virus in the country’s care homes, where the majority of Sweden’s 5,846 deaths occurred. “Of course something went wrong there,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/15/sweden-records-its-fewest-daily-covid-19-cases-since-march
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That's interesting. Do we have data on antibodies from Sweden?
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'Zero infection rate does not exist': Europe learns to live with virusParis: In the early days of the pandemic, President Emmanuel Macron exhorted the French to wage "war" against the coronavirus. Today, his message is to "learn how to live with the virus".From full-fledged conflict to cold war containment, France and much of the rest of Europe have opted for coexistence as infections keep rising, the northern summer recedes into a risk-filled autumn and the possibility of a second wave haunts the Continent. People enjoy drinks and meals outdoors at a cafe in Strasbourg, France, on Friday.Credit:AP
Having abandoned hopes of eradicating the virus or developing a vaccine within weeks, Europeans have largely gone back to work and school, leading lives as normally as possible amid an enduring pandemic that has already killed nearly 215,000 in Europe.
"We are in a living-with-the-virus phase," said Roberto Speranza, the health minister of Italy, the first country in Europe to impose a national lockdown. In an interview with La Stampa newspaper, Speranza said that although a "zero infection rate does not exist", Italy was now far better equipped to handle a surge in infections."There is not going to be another lockdown," Speranza said.
Hendrik Streeck, head of virology at a research hospital in the German city of Bonn, cautioned that the pandemic should not be judged merely by infection numbers, but instead by deaths and hospitalisations. "We have reached a phase where the number of infections alone is no longer as meaningful," Streeck said.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/zero-infection-rate-does-not-exist-europe-learns-to-live-with-virus-20200916-p55w4y.html
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28 new cases in Melbourne, 14 day average down to 44.4, which is below the target of 50 to take the next step on the 28th. Getting closer to fucking this prick of a virus off, hopefully for good.
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+x"zero infection rate does not exist" In Europe, perhaps. In a country with its own continent on the arse end of the planet we have an opportunity for the tyranny of distance to work in our favour.
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pala don't think gone for good but hopefully under control especially in Melb. Hopefully the fucktards have taken notice finally and thinking for all not about themselves so you guys can get back to a covid normality were all living with now. Needs these bloody borders opened up so we can get on with life/business.
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+x+x"zero infection rate does not exist" In Europe, perhaps. In a country with its own continent on the arse end of the planet we have an opportunity for the tyranny of distance to work in our favour. No doubt we do have some advantages, but like NZ has shown (who are further away and smaller again), its not possible to avoid this thing getting out. Plus, ow that much of the world is moving to a strategy of living with it, are we going to lock ourselves away from the rest of the world indefinitely?
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+x+x+x"zero infection rate does not exist" In Europe, perhaps. In a country with its own continent on the arse end of the planet we have an opportunity for the tyranny of distance to work in our favour. No doubt we do have some advantages, but like NZ has shown (who are further away and smaller again), its not possible to avoid this thing getting out. Plus, ow that much of the world is moving to a strategy of living with it, are we going to lock ourselves away from the rest of the world indefinitely? NZ went six weeks without a community case. It is possible to hold out until a vaccine is developed, saving tens of thousands of lives and preventing the possible life changing long term medical issues in many others that will have a long term effect on the economy.
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Dan Andrews' approval rating is back up to 70% according to a Roy Morgan poll from a week ago, I wonder why I didn't see that in the news? http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8518-victorian-stage-4-restrictions-september-10-2020-202009091315
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no care not in the news or whatever though you should ask the left side of the media why haven't they got it exposure but mind boggles people are satisfied but more so shows when you have no alternative, better the devil you know than the one you don't. Pretty easy survey or depends who the call targets were. How can anyone believe this shit tbh in this day and age.
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+x+x+x"zero infection rate does not exist" In Europe, perhaps. In a country with its own continent on the arse end of the planet we have an opportunity for the tyranny of distance to work in our favour. No doubt we do have some advantages, but like NZ has shown (who are further away and smaller again), its not possible to avoid this thing getting out. Plus, ow that much of the world is moving to a strategy of living with it, are we going to lock ourselves away from the rest of the world indefinitely? NZ is a good example of what we can achieve. We all need to accept that it cannot be eliminated. The best case was like NZ, it was suppressed for long periods and when it emerges, it gets quashed. They didn't lock themselves from the world indefinitely (in fact, they opened up again right after). I don't think anyone is proposing an indefinite lockdown.
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+xPretty easy survey or depends who the call targets were. How can anyone believe this shit tbh in this day and age. You're saying the Roy Morgan survey was dodgy?
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+x+xPretty easy survey or depends who the call targets were. How can anyone believe this shit tbh in this day and age. You're saying the Roy Morgan survey was dodgy? do you believe them ? You asked, I don't.
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+x+x+xPretty easy survey or depends who the call targets were. How can anyone believe this shit tbh in this day and age. You're saying the Roy Morgan survey was dodgy? do you believe them ? You asked, I don't. I do. Roy Morgan is a reputable, well-established entity who publish their methods. What's in it for them to risk their reputation built over 79 years and lie about this particular poll?
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Morgans have had good leaders I guess over the decades maintaining connections I expect. Afterall your only as good as your opposition, many have come and gone or don't have the capacity of picking up good accounts. I have a son who has worked for 2 market research companies (still employed in one) and have attended a few research groups for x companies consumer research. If I wasn't suited he wouldn't ask me and some other family members have done so as well. They pick their audience and presto you have your wonderful favourable result, its not lying as you say. imo its like a stacked deck.
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