Our be loved  game NEEDS a  2ND divisoin &NEEDS it it NOW The silence from FFA is defeaning ! !  yes it will take money i know maybe alot in fact now well then Show Us the  Money !

It's great that they're ambitious but unless it gets an A-League expansion spot Canberra should be represented in an NSD by a club that embraces the whole region, not an existing NPL based in the northern extremities of the city. If it does get an A-League spot then Canberra probably shouldn't have any team in the NSD, at least initially (NPL clubs can always push for promotion in later years). 

I guess what I was proposing amounted to turning the QPL (NPL 2) into two regional conferences of SEQ and North+Central QLD, which would help cut down on travel costs while also ensuring regional representation, with a play-off for promotion to NPL 1. Then have the local comps in each zone play-off for promotion to the two conferences of the second tier (FNQ, NQ, Whitsunday, CQ and WB play off for NCQ, and Brisbane, SC, GC and Toowoomba play off for SEQ).

The two divisions would not be very even in terms of level of play (SEQ would likely be substantially better than NCQ), so probably most years it would be the SEQ side being promoted, and you may only have a couple of NCQ teams in NPL 1. But it at least provides a merit-based pathway for the regional clubs outside of the SEQ core to progress to the top tier (and perhaps even an NSD in future).

A problem right now is that there is nowhere for clubs like Cairns FC and NQ FC to step down to, since there is a direct drop from statewide to local leagues (and a club that is supposed to represent the entire region can't really play in that region's local league). So instead they just go bust and the whole region misses out on NPL football.

QPL was formed a couple of years back to increase the number of semi-pro teams in the state, it is in effect NPLQ2. 

Yes, the FFA is also asking show us the money as they don’t have any. Simple :)

It's precisely these sorts of views which act as an obstacle to getting a proper football pyramid.
NEWSFLASH
With a proper football pyramid, there is no such thing as teams representing regions, or teams being in a particular division simply because they come from a particular region.
In this example, we have a real club, not a franchise, not a bunch of rich blokes wanting to buy their way in, but a real club, with an ambition to play at the highest level it can.
That's the kind of attitude which drives a proper football pyramid!
The very, very last thing we want are more rich blokes wanting to buy their way in.
Earn the spot out on the pitch.

Yeah, the franchise model is going Gand busters in the AL, why not roll it out in the NSD, what could go wrong?

Franchises (businesses) aren't football clubs.
Football clubs (social centres) are what represent communities.
Communities produce players though their connection (love for) to the game.

I still haven't found something that expresses what football is better than the quote from Sir Terry in my signature.

It all depends on the size of a club and the potential supporter base really. 

Football Queensland are investigating into the viability of a national second division

https://footballqueensland.com.au/2020/09/21/football-queensland-commence-a-national-second-division-consultation-in-queensland/

also interesting that they’re looking into doing conferences for the NPL

https://www.perthnow.com.au/community-news/eastern-reporter/perth-and-bayswater-city-throw-support-behind-national-soccer-second-division-to-run-under-a-league-c-1337365.amp

If you take an existing NPL club, they would get roughly 1/10th of the support of what a Canberra-wide club would get. They're all either based in specific parts of the city (Gungahlin, Belconnen, Tuggeranong, etc.) or draw support from a particular ethnic community (Canberra Croatia, Canberra Olympic, Inter Monaro, etc.). A Canberra-wide club could realistically push for promotion to the A-League, an existing NPL club would likely be stuck at the bottom of the table. But sure, go ahead.

Hard to tell if they’re showing support or actually want to actually be part of the NSD

@Bayswater & Perth

They have contributed financially.

But the way one spoke is like they want another team in Perth for AL (or NSD).

Is there a chance these two clubs could merge? 

oh god not another Italian club merger, does any of them merged Italian actually work out they always end up in a clusterfuck

The problem I see is if a merger happened then that team got relegated as a separate entity. Then they would just abandon the idea and play as their clubs again. Instead of relegating the 2 original clubs.

Merger wasn’t mentioned but the guy spoke in a an unclear way.

I wouldnt be surprised to see a independent bid with the backing of multiple clubs, unlike over east, none of our state clubs have ever been national, but I’ve always heard Bayswater’s names mentioned when talking about a NSD or 2nd perth team.

Just saw this ad. Thought it might be useful for broadcasting any second division
https://www.veo.co/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwzbv7BRDIARIsAM-A6-2ykj6-LyXqXwIQzZm3wPF3xVfYX3axCZ7gp73PT7r-2js7pyP347oaAqfoEALw_wcB

We use that for match analysis (it is f’kin brilliant). Not sure it’s broadcast quality but use it for half time and post match analysis and it would improve Fox Sports coverage immensely 

Bit of coverage on Channel 7 in Adelaide: https://twitter.com/7NewsAdelaide/status/1310159772889395205

If the clubs see that as the best chance of success, it could well be the way forward. It’s not going to be an easy thing for one club to undertake on their own in some cases, so there may be some Joint Ventures that may well put clubs in the best position to move forward. 

I think if clubs merge it should be a proper merger, where the whole club comes together, not just a fusion team for the NSD. But there are some mergers that make a lot of sense. For some reason, there are two clubs that are legacies of the old Brunswick Juventus: Brunswick Zebras and Moreland Zebras. They should not only merge with each other, but look into joining with Avondale. Then you'd have an Italian super club in Melbourne's inner north, rather than multiple competing factions. Same goes with West Adelaide and Adelaide Olympic. Why are there two Greek-based teams that are virtually clones of one another, both playing within a short distance of each other in suburban Adelaide? If they joined they could be a powerful force in South Australian football. Same goes for Port Melbourne and South Melbourne.

It might mean fewer clubs in total, but the new clubs would have a larger junior and supporter base, and would be more able to make the step up to NSD level. We need more clubs with the resources to make that leap.

If JJ does align the A League with NPL, would the A League players that are part of the extended squads,be sent back to play in the NPL? Would that standard be sufficient for these squad players to further their causes? The NPL can be used as a Reserve Grade throughout the season much like AFL's Victorian teams send their squad players to play in the VFL. It is better than sitting on the pine and not playing I guess, until a second division (cough cough) comes in.    

My personal opinion: A League players playing in the NPL in not a perfect solution but it would be good enough 

Yeah i'm fine with that replacing the Y-League.

Cant speak for our pasta loving ex Juve cousins (especially considering the hugely comical merger, de mergers shennanigans they got up too over the last 50 years) but not too sure about the assumption that if a club looks and smells like a Greek club then they should just merge...... Maybe in the rarified air of New Football rivalries are manufactured  but in old Soccer local rivalries and bad blood runs deep. 

Yep.
It would appear many "football" fans just don't get it.

Many of those splits are things like board members falling out with each other due to petty personal rivalries (I know, I've seen exactly that happen first hand). They have no real basis and only serve to weaken the club(s) and the game. So don't try to make out that it's the product of some sacred, centuries-long tradition that non-initiates would be incapable of understanding.

I think you misunderstood my response. I know all about the long tradition of Melbourne's Italian clubs splitting and re-forming and breaking away etc etc.. There is a flow chart floating around on the internet somewhere that is fascinating if your into that sort of thing. I just wanted to say that, as an example, Port Melbourne FC and South Melbourne FC are no more likely to merge just because they are Greek-Australian founded clubs than say Tarneit Gypsies FC and Melbourne Victorious will merge just because they are both plastic. I agree, some clubs may choose to "pool their resources" to make a tilt at getting into the proposed Championship but assuming the wogs all stick together is a furphy. 

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/can-south-melbourne-fcs-successful-community-model-work-in-a-privatised-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sorry dont know how to post a link yet....