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Enzo Bearzot - 3 Oct 2020 9:46 AM
NicCarBel - 3 Oct 2020 9:09 AM

Who cares?  We're talking about poverty.

Do you want to fix poverty for as many people as you can, or do you want to virtue signal and "take the knee", and leave 78% percent of the poverty population behind?




5% of 100 is more than 90% of 10.

The reason why I ask is because if the Black population then make up less than 22% of U.S, (or White more than 55%, etc, etc), than there can be a correlation of this being because it's "built into the system".
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Enzo Bearzot - 2 Oct 2020 6:56 PM
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Romney nailed it when he said:

Speaking to reporters, Romney said that he prefers Supreme Court justices who are "strict constructionists." The senator said this means justices who "look at the law itself and the Constitution, as opposed to sort of looking into the sky and pulling out ideas that they think may be more appropriate than the law or the Constitution."

"I recognize that we may have a court which has more of a conservative bent than it's had over the last few decades," he said. "But my liberal friends have over many decades gotten very used to the idea of having a liberal court. And that's not written in the stars."

https://www.newsweek.com/mitt-romney-dismisses-concerns-over-more-conservative-supreme-court-says-liberal-court-isnt-1533672



This is a very good point. Trump made a big thing of this in 2016 promising conservative judges. Even if the majority of the US wants to keep the ACA and Roe vs Wade among other things, elections have consequences. If the Democrats had turned up they would have had an entrenched liberal Supreme Court.

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NicCarBel - 3 Oct 2020 4:44 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 3 Oct 2020 9:46 AM

5% of 100 is more than 90% of 10.

The reason why I ask is because if the Black population then make up less than 22% of U.S, (or White more than 55%, etc, etc), than there can be a correlation of this being because it's "built into the system".

There's nothing "built in to the system".  American Asians have the lowest rate of poverty-is the "system" built to benefit Asians?  Of course not.  Its their culture of traditional family and extended family values, education and hard work that sees them and their children avoid poverty.

The strongest correlation with poverty and blacks is that black kids are 3 times as likely to grow up in single parent families and twice as likely to be born to a child-parent, as whites.

Fix that and I guarantee you will fix black over-representation in poverty, crime, murder, police shootings.

But good luck doing something not even Obama could do.  Hell he couldn't even get anyone on his own side to agree with him that it even was a problem, mainly because it didn't fit the progressives anti-traditional ( mum dad and kids) family agenda.

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patjennings - 3 Oct 2020 5:26 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 2 Oct 2020 6:56 PM

This is a very good point. Trump made a big thing of this in 2016 promising conservative judges. Even if the majority of the US wants to keep the ACA and Roe vs Wade among other things, elections have consequences. If the Democrats had turned up they would have had an entrenched liberal Supreme Court.

Well, you're assuming that the Democrats didn't actually turn up, as if there is this massive number of lazy and apathetic Democrat base that just doesn't vote.

You'd be forgiven for believing that is true given the narrative that for eg  blacks don't vote, or face obstacles to vote, and the variouscampaigns to get more blacks to vote from eg the Obama's.

Its a load of horse shit.

"In fact, Black voter turnout was within 1 percentage point of whites in 2008 (65.2% compared to 66.1%) and was actually higher than whites in 2012 (66.6% compared to 64.1%). In 2016, voter turnout for Blacks dipped to 59.6%. While that number was lower than whites (65.3%), it was still higher than Asians (49.3%)" and Hispanics (47.6%).

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2019/09/12/setting-the-record-straight-on-black-voter-turnout/



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From the pretty vague briefings the doctors are giving it sounds like Donny is in for a rough few days.

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Enzo Bearzot - 3 Oct 2020 11:25 PM
patjennings - 3 Oct 2020 5:26 PM

Well, you're assuming that the Democrats didn't actually turn up, as if there is this massive number of lazy and apathetic Democrat base that just doesn't vote.

You'd be forgiven for believing that is true given the narrative that for eg  blacks don't vote, or face obstacles to vote, and the variouscampaigns to get more blacks to vote from eg the Obama's.

Its a load of horse shit.

"In fact, Black voter turnout was within 1 percentage point of whites in 2008 (65.2% compared to 66.1%) and was actually higher than whites in 2012 (66.6% compared to 64.1%). In 2016, voter turnout for Blacks dipped to 59.6%. While that number was lower than whites (65.3%), it was still higher than Asians (49.3%)" and Hispanics (47.6%).

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2019/09/12/setting-the-record-straight-on-black-voter-turnout/



I love how following your first sentence you basically change change the subject from the democrats turning up to which race has the highest voter turnout. 

You are all over the place enzo.

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Enzo Bearzot - 3 Oct 2020 10:27 PM
NicCarBel - 3 Oct 2020 4:44 PM

There's nothing "built in to the system".  American Asians have the lowest rate of poverty-is the "system" built to benefit Asians?  Of course not.  Its their culture of traditional family and extended family values, education and hard work that sees them and their children avoid poverty.

The strongest correlation with poverty and blacks is that black kids are 3 times as likely to grow up in single parent families and twice as likely to be born to a child-parent, as whites.

Fix that and I guarantee you will fix black over-representation in poverty, crime, murder, police shootings.


But good luck doing something not even Obama could do.  Hell he couldn't even get anyone on his own side to agree with him that it even was a problem, mainly because it didn't fit the progressives anti-traditional ( mum dad and kids) family agenda.

This is what I mean by 'built in to the system'
Overturning that isn't going to be done overnight. Or probably even 8 years. But because of how things worked in the past, its been socially ingrained.
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sydneyfc1987 - 4 Oct 2020 10:37 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 3 Oct 2020 11:25 PM

I love how following your first sentence you basically change change the subject from the democrats turning up to which race has the highest voter turnout. 

You are all over the place enzo.

What do you love about it?

Its a fact that a "lack of voter turnout" has meant and still means in the contemporary US politics a "lack of black voter turnout".

Its also a fact that 90% of blacks that vote, these blacks vote Democrat.  Its also a fact that its the Democrats who push the narrative of "getting more people to vote" is really about getting more blacks to vote.

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 and this is why Democrats target more blacks (and more immigrants, even illegal ones) and not whites, to vote;
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/05/22/whites-have-fled-the-democratic-party-heres-how-the-nation-got-there/
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But Blacks already vote about the same as whites and more than hispanics and asians.  Its one big crock that somehow lacks are marginalised when it comes to voting opportunity or are less engaged politically.

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NicCarBel - 4 Oct 2020 11:45 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 3 Oct 2020 10:27 PM

This is what I mean by 'built in to the system'
Overturning that isn't going to be done overnight. Or probably even 8 years. But because of how things worked in the past, its been socially ingrained.

The system doesn't cause black men to impregnate teenage girls.  It doesn't cause black men to leave 3 in 4 of their children with absent fathers.  Black men do that.  These are choices they make that have devastating social, economic and legal consequence for their communities, cities and States.

Its actually worse than it was in the 1970's

And how did the progressives respond to Obama's speech on absent black fathers?  They double down on their anti-traditional family narrative.  (incidentally the BLM website had as one of its goals "the dismantling of the patriarchal, Western prescribe family unit" on their website. Until people cottoned on to what these Marxists were really up to, which saw support for BLM free-fall,  actually helping Trump, and so they wiped it off the website.  Notice how the "progressive" media has now gone quiet on BLM...)

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Enzo Bearzot - 4 Oct 2020 1:42 PM
NicCarBel - 4 Oct 2020 11:45 AM

And how did the progressives respond to Obama's speech on absent black fathers?  They double down on their anti-traditional family narrative.  (incidentally the BLM website had as one of its goals "the dismantling of the patriarchal, Western prescribe family unit" on their website. Until people cottoned on to what these Marxists were really up to, which saw support for BLM free-fall,  actually helping Trump, and so they wiped it off the website.  Notice how the "progressive" media has now gone quiet on BLM...)

Having a look at the official website I could find nothing what you just quoted. However, I did find this: 

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/17/fake-blm-manifesto-fascist/





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I want to know how Trump still caught it considering he took hydroxychloroquine to prevent it?
And also why is he not now receiving it as a treatment considering he, Fox news, hell even our own sky news and The Australian newspaper with world-renowned scientists like Chris Kenny and conservative politicians told us it was an effective treatment and cure for Covid....



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sydneyfc1987 - 4 Oct 2020 3:22 PM
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Having a look at the official website I could find nothing what you just quoted. However, I did find this: 

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/17/fake-blm-manifesto-fascist/




Of course you didn't find anything- BLM took it down a week or two back!c LOL

What you've linked to is a bullshit, and weak attempt to misdirect blame to some made-up site.

Here is the archive of the original BLM site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200408020723/https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

The fact that you REALY must have tried to be misinformed is interesting. I found the archive in literally under 30 seconds with a single google search. Hilarious.









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tsf - 4 Oct 2020 3:38 PM
I want to know how Trump still caught it considering he took hydroxychloroquine to prevent it?
And also why is he not now receiving it as a treatment considering he, Fox news, hell even our own sky news and The Australian newspaper with world-renowned scientists like Chris Kenny and conservative politicians told us it was an effective treatment and cure for Covid....



The HCQ issue is not as black and white as you seem to think.  And I get that people with TDS might finds that hard to accept that Trump miht have been on to something.

I swear if Trump announced a cure for cancer there'd be people who'd blame for him for the rain on the way to work.

Try this for some reputable information:

"Among participants in this trial who took HCQ earlier following exposure, there was a greater trend towards protection, such that among the few participants in this trial who took HCQ one day after exposure, the point estimate for relative risk reduction was -49%. "

and

"CQ/HCQ is now widely used to prevent COVID-19 in countries accounting for up to 20% of the world’s healthcare workers. Indeed, in India, for example, the Health Ministry recommends its use for a wide range of frontline workers, citing observational studies showing its benefit[15]."


https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/opinion/insight/down-but-not-out-hydroxychloroquine-could-still-have-a-role-against-covid-19/20208233.article?firstPass=false



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Enzo Bearzot - 4 Oct 2020 4:09 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 4 Oct 2020 3:22 PM

Of course you didn't find anything- BLM took it down a week or two back!c LOL

What you've linked to is a bullshit, and weak attempt to misdirect blame to some made-up site.

Here is the archive of the original BLM site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200408020723/https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

The fact that you REALY must have tried to be misinformed is interesting. I found the archive in literally under 30 seconds with a single google search. Hilarious









What? Jesus christ stef stop with the conspiracies 
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Enzo Bearzot - 4 Oct 2020 4:22 PM
tsf - 4 Oct 2020 3:38 PM

The HCQ issue is not as black and white as you seem to think.  And I get that people with TDS might finds that hard to accept that Trump miht have been on to something.

I swear if Trump announced a cure for cancer there'd be people who'd blame for him for the rain on the way to work.

Try this for some reputable information:

"Among participants in this trial who took HCQ earlier following exposure, there was a greater trend towards protection, such that among the few participants in this trial who took HCQ one day after exposure, the point estimate for relative risk reduction was -49%. "

and

"CQ/HCQ is now widely used to prevent COVID-19 in countries accounting for up to 20% of the world’s healthcare workers. Indeed, in India, for example, the Health Ministry recommends its use for a wide range of frontline workers, citing observational studies showing its benefit[15]."


https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/opinion/insight/down-but-not-out-hydroxychloroquine-could-still-have-a-role-against-covid-19/20208233.article?firstPass=false



He was not on to anything. 

He has covid. He is not being treated with it. 

Case closed. 



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Enzo Bearzot - 4 Oct 2020 4:09 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 4 Oct 2020 3:22 PM

Of course you didn't find anything- BLM took it down a week or two back!c LOL

What you've linked to is a bullshit, and weak attempt to misdirect blame to some made-up site.

Here is the archive of the original BLM site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200408020723/https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

The fact that you REALY must have tried to be misinformed is interesting. I found the archive in literally under 30 seconds with a single google search. Hilarious.



I don't see your original quote in there at all. 


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How America hasn't broken out into open conflict yet I do not know.

https://twitter.com/msingerx/status/1312559981418299394?s=20

And

Trump’s Covid messaging:

JAN: It’s under control
FEB: It’s a hoax
M: Packed churches by Easter
APRIL: It’s going away
MAY: Time to open up
JUNE: Just embers
JULY: Time to open schools
AUG: Other countries are worse
SEPT: Vaccines coming soon!
OCT: *tweeting from the hospital*



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sydneyfc1987 - 4 Oct 2020 9:37 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 4 Oct 2020 4:09 PM

I don't see your original quote in there at all. 

Did you look:

"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable"


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tsf - 4 Oct 2020 6:42 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 4 Oct 2020 4:22 PM

He was not on to anything. 

He has covid. He is not being treated with it. 

Case closed. 



You mean he's not being treated on the basis of information that is now 6 months old and may not be appropriate for him-why would he be?
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Enzo Bearzot - 5 Oct 2020 8:27 AM
tsf - 4 Oct 2020 6:42 PM

You mean he's not being treated on the basis of information that is now 6 months old and may not be appropriate for him-why would he be?

When was it appropriate? 
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Enzo Bearzot - 5 Oct 2020 8:24 AM
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Did you look:

"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable"


Note that word. 


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Munrubenmuz - 4 Oct 2020 10:48 PM
How America hasn't broken out into open conflict yet I do not know.

https://twitter.com/msingerx/status/1312559981418299394?s=20


Two groups that hate each other armed to the teeth. 

What could go wrong? 

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sydneyfc1987 - 5 Oct 2020 9:18 AM
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Note that word. 

so when you said "at all" you meant "one word"

BLM took their manifesto down because it exposed them as the Marxists they are who were using blacks for political gain, and their support plummeted.

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tsf - 5 Oct 2020 9:14 AM
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When was it appropriate? 

Ideally, within a day of the infection,  but "inappropriate for him" doesn't mean only "when", but also "if", "how", "how much" and for "how long"

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Enzo Bearzot - 5 Oct 2020 11:03 AM
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BLM took their manifesto down because it exposed them as the Marxists they are who were using blacks for political gain, and their support plummeted.

Source?

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Enzo Bearzot - 5 Oct 2020 11:06 AM
tsf - 5 Oct 2020 9:14 AM

Ideally, within a day of the infection,  but "inappropriate for him" doesn't mean only "when", but also "if", "how", "how much" and for "how long"

I thought Trump said he was taking HCQ already as a preventative measure. 
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sydneyfc1987 - 5 Oct 2020 11:41 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 5 Oct 2020 11:03 AM

Source?

Google "BLM removes web page".  Take your pick.

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Burztur - 5 Oct 2020 1:00 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 5 Oct 2020 11:06 AM

I thought Trump said he was taking HCQ already as a preventative measure. 

Was he? I hadn't heard that.

Anyway if he was it might reduced his risk by up to 50%.  50% is not 100%.  It might also mean the disease is less severe for him.  I don't know his full medical history.

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sydneyfc1987 - 5 Oct 2020 9:22 AM
Munrubenmuz - 4 Oct 2020 10:48 PM

Two groups that hate each other armed to the teeth. 

What could go wrong? 

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