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I really don’t see why it can’t happen.
Start small and I doubt it would cost more than 10% more than the top NPL clubs are operating at.
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I AGREE ! Just hurry up & make.it.happen FFA , Its not Rocket science geez !!
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+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place.
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Waz
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+x+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place. The AAFC recently recommend the FFA take over the management of the NPL, so it’s quite clear which direction the ASFC are heading
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+x+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place. I believe that is one of the sticking points, PFA involvement would drastically increase the projected wage bills AAFC clubs have been modelling on and your right the clubs wouldn't then want to extend themselves without the guarantee of potential pro/ rel to A league (my assumption) . It's great for the PFA to have more members and thus power but Francis is fairly new in the role and I don't know if he is the type to go swinging his dick around....
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As far as I know there is no constitutional requirement for a national comp to have PFA involvement, so their agreement on fully pro vs semi-pro is not needed. If they knew where their long term interests lay they would support a financially sustainable semi-pro comp whose clubs could gradually transition to full-time status (the way some clubs in the NSL did in the late 1990s) over demanding a fully pro comp from the start that would probably go bust after a few years.
If you really wanted to start up the NSD as a nationwide league as soon as possible, I could see the following format as viable: 12 clubs, 33 rounds + finals. The clubs would be:
Brisbane Strikers
Gold Coast United
APIA Leichhardt
Sydney Olympic
Sydney United 58
Wollongong Wolves
Canberra (new, with Capital Football backing)
South Melbourne
Heidelberg United
Melbourne Knights
Adelaide City
Hobart (new, with FFT backing)
So ten existing NPL clubs and only two new clubs, both of which could be federation backed, because they'd be the only clubs representing their jurisdiction. All travel is kept pretty local (max. 2hr flight, e.g. Brisbane-Adelaide), and 42 out of 198 matches would not require any flight at all. Perth, NQ and NZ would be excluded, but could be kept in mind for future expansion. Player salaries would be at the high-end of what currently is on offer in the NPL (whose clubs have been known to lay out $700k-1m a year for the first time squad without going bankrupt). I think this would be feasible.
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Waz
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+xAs far as I know there is no constitutional requirement for a national comp to have PFA involvement, so their agreement on fully pro vs semi-pro is not needed. If they knew where their long term interests lay they would support a financially sustainable semi-pro comp whose clubs could gradually transition to full-time status (the way some clubs in the NSL did in the late 1990s) over demanding a fully pro comp from the start that would probably go bust after a few years. If you really wanted to start up the NSD as a nationwide league as soon as possible, I could see the following format as viable: 12 clubs, 33 rounds + finals. The clubs would be: Brisbane Strikers Gold Coast United APIA Leichhardt Sydney Olympic Sydney United 58 Wollongong Wolves Canberra (new, with Capital Football backing) South Melbourne Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Adelaide City Hobart (new, with FFT backing) So ten existing NPL clubs and only two new clubs, both of which could be federation backed, because they'd be the only clubs representing their jurisdiction. All travel is kept pretty local (max. 2hr flight, e.g. Brisbane-Adelaide), and 42 out of 198 matches would not require any flight at all. Perth, NQ and NZ would be excluded, but could be kept in mind for future expansion. Player salaries would be at the high-end of what currently is on offer in the NPL (whose clubs have been known to lay out $700k-1m a year for the first time squad without going bankrupt). I think this would be feasible. So you know nothing about NPL in Queensland then ...
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+x+x+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place. The AAFC recently recommend the FFA take over the management of the NPL, so it’s quite clear which direction the ASFC are heading That to me is a sensible suggestion. All the tiers and regions of the NPL under the FFA along with the NSD, the A-League (under licence ), and the National Team program, and all amateur football under the respective State Associations. That would give the FFA responsibility for the whole of the development pathway and refocus the state associations on the spread of the game and keeping costs down at community and grassroots level.
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place. The AAFC recently recommend the FFA take over the management of the NPL, so it’s quite clear which direction the ASFC are heading That to me is a sensible suggestion. All the tiers and regions of the NPL under the FFA along with the NSD, the A-League (under licence ), and the National Team program, and all amateur football under the respective State Associations. That would give the FFA responsibility for the whole of the development pathway and refocus the state associations on the spread of the game and keeping costs down at community and grassroots level. It might be a sensible suggestion, it might not - but it is what the AAFC are asking for.
It raises questions then around the role of FFA vs State Federations (which you’ve aimed to provide one possible scenario on R&R).
Here’s where we come into a major issue the FFA has - trust.
Would I trust the FFA to look after NPL NSW’s? Yes, I probably would.
Would I trust the FFA to look after NPL QLD, QPL & QPL1? Hell no ....!
The FFA has proven to be a NSW’s centric organisation over the years and there is an issue of trust here.
But, it is what the AAFC asked for - so NSD will likely fit in the same boat.
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** Wrong thread ........!!!!!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place. The AAFC recently recommend the FFA take over the management of the NPL, so it’s quite clear which direction the ASFC are heading That to me is a sensible suggestion. All the tiers and regions of the NPL under the FFA along with the NSD, the A-League (under licence ), and the National Team program, and all amateur football under the respective State Associations. That would give the FFA responsibility for the whole of the development pathway and refocus the state associations on the spread of the game and keeping costs down at community and grassroots level. It might be a sensible suggestion, it might not - but it is what the AAFC are asking for.
It raises questions then around the role of FFA vs State Federations (which you’ve aimed to provide one possible scenario on R&R).
Here’s where we come into a major issue the FFA has - trust.
Would I trust the FFA to look after NPL NSW’s? Yes, I probably would.
Would I trust the FFA to look after NPL QLD, QPL & QPL1? Hell no ....!
The FFA has proven to be a NSW’s centric organisation over the years and there is an issue of trust here.
But, it is what the AAFC asked for - so NSD will likely fit in the same boat. Yep, FFA tend to be Sydney centric. And probably Victorian too, as secondary focus. And then NSW only focuses on Sydney, not the rest of their jurisdiction too.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place. The AAFC recently recommend the FFA take over the management of the NPL, so it’s quite clear which direction the ASFC are heading That to me is a sensible suggestion. All the tiers and regions of the NPL under the FFA along with the NSD, the A-League (under licence ), and the National Team program, and all amateur football under the respective State Associations. That would give the FFA responsibility for the whole of the development pathway and refocus the state associations on the spread of the game and keeping costs down at community and grassroots level. Agreed Gyfox. I think the State federations should stick to the administrative function of state league and amature leagues below that. They then can continue the good work of community based programs, facilities advocacy for grass roots clipubs etc etc,
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+xAs far as I know there is no constitutional requirement for a national comp to have PFA involvement, so their agreement on fully pro vs semi-pro is not needed. If they knew where their long term interests lay they would support a financially sustainable semi-pro comp whose clubs could gradually transition to full-time status (the way some clubs in the NSL did in the late 1990s) over demanding a fully pro comp from the start that would probably go bust after a few years. If you really wanted to start up the NSD as a nationwide league as soon as possible, I could see the following format as viable: 12 clubs, 33 rounds + finals. The clubs would be: Brisbane Strikers Gold Coast United APIA Leichhardt Sydney Olympic Sydney United 58 Wollongong Wolves Canberra (new, with Capital Football backing) South Melbourne Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Adelaide City Hobart (new, with FFT backing) So ten existing NPL clubs and only two new clubs, both of which could be federation backed, because they'd be the only clubs representing their jurisdiction. All travel is kept pretty local (max. 2hr flight, e.g. Brisbane-Adelaide), and 42 out of 198 matches would not require any flight at all. Perth, NQ and NZ would be excluded, but could be kept in mind for future expansion. Player salaries would be at the high-end of what currently is on offer in the NPL (whose clubs have been known to lay out $700k-1m a year for the first time squad without going bankrupt). I think this would be feasible. I am in pretty much total agreement with this. I would give local clubs in ACT and TAS the choice of putting their hands up for representation first but apart from that I think your choices are bang on. There are probably 4-6 clubs that are "just" outside this group and my opinion is that if they know that there will be a mechanism for immediate promotion into this comp from year one there will be a massive flurry of investment at the 3rd level of soccer let alone the nsd. A mini NPL arms race if you will. Clubs are just looking for the chance.
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+x+xAs far as I know there is no constitutional requirement for a national comp to have PFA involvement, so their agreement on fully pro vs semi-pro is not needed. If they knew where their long term interests lay they would support a financially sustainable semi-pro comp whose clubs could gradually transition to full-time status (the way some clubs in the NSL did in the late 1990s) over demanding a fully pro comp from the start that would probably go bust after a few years. If you really wanted to start up the NSD as a nationwide league as soon as possible, I could see the following format as viable: 12 clubs, 33 rounds + finals. The clubs would be: Brisbane Strikers Gold Coast United APIA Leichhardt Sydney Olympic Sydney United 58 Wollongong Wolves Canberra (new, with Capital Football backing) South Melbourne Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Adelaide City Hobart (new, with FFT backing) So ten existing NPL clubs and only two new clubs, both of which could be federation backed, because they'd be the only clubs representing their jurisdiction. All travel is kept pretty local (max. 2hr flight, e.g. Brisbane-Adelaide), and 42 out of 198 matches would not require any flight at all. Perth, NQ and NZ would be excluded, but could be kept in mind for future expansion. Player salaries would be at the high-end of what currently is on offer in the NPL (whose clubs have been known to lay out $700k-1m a year for the first time squad without going bankrupt). I think this would be feasible. So you know nothing about NPL in Queensland then ... I'm glad to be enlightened, but I know that Strikers have been top 5 basically every year of the Queensland NPL, won it in 2016 and 2017, made the FFA Cup semis last year (the best result of any NPL side in 2019), that they have a decent second division-standard ground capable of being redeveloped, in a central location with excellent transport connections, and that they probably have a large latent support base due to their history in the NSL (including a 40k grand final once upon a time). What are the other options? - Lions: obviously have the money, a good playing squad and a nice little ground out in Richlands. But their historical ties to the Roar would be an obstacle. - Brisbane City: history and money, but uneven results on the field, a ramshackle ground and a small and dwindling support base. - Peninsula Power: an up-and-coming club, but the Roar seem to be positioning themselves in the north with the move to Dolphin Stadium, so they might be crowded out. - Western Pride/new Ipswich bid. A wild card, which I would be favourable to if the bid stacked up, but it's an unknown quantity and they don't have anywhere really to play (even North Ipswich Reserve would have to be redeveloped a la Redcliffe). Any other challengers?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo WHERE is is the PLAN for a 2nd Divisoin? WHAT is F.FA actualy doing about it ?! Anything?? Waiting for AAFC to present a model they can reject and delay. Keep your ears open for the inevitable AAFC model presentation next month followed by the FFA statement within hours. "NSD will only work if the league is made up of A- League academy teams ... wont someone think of the youth" "who is going to fund it, travel is sooo expensive?" "only if it is fully professional and the clubs can guarantee salaries of $250K per year to all players" "Brazil and Zimbabwe have a conference based system made up of regional representative squads" Frankly, if the AAFC propose a plan that requires significant investment by the FFA, it’s just not going to happen.
If the PFA stick to their stance, it will also go nowhere fast.
The NSD will have to be something that builds from a fairly moderate base to have any chance of moving forward, carrying additional costs in some ways (ie. Travel), but it will ultimately have to be largely semi-pro.
Most clubs likely won’t want to invest more anyway until there is a clear roadmap to a promotion mechanism to be put in place. The AAFC recently recommend the FFA take over the management of the NPL, so it’s quite clear which direction the ASFC are heading That to me is a sensible suggestion. All the tiers and regions of the NPL under the FFA along with the NSD, the A-League (under licence ), and the National Team program, and all amateur football under the respective State Associations. That would give the FFA responsibility for the whole of the development pathway and refocus the state associations on the spread of the game and keeping costs down at community and grassroots level. Would I trust the FFA to look after NPL QLD, QPL & QPL1? Hell no ....!
You trust them less than FQ? An organisation run by a bunch of blokes suing Bonita Mersiades for lifting the lid on their semi-corrupt nepotism? At least the FFA has a measure of probity about it. Nothing stopping them from having state branches that have a good ear on the ground for local matter,s if the state federations were reduced to looking after the grassroots.
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+x+xAs far as I know there is no constitutional requirement for a national comp to have PFA involvement, so their agreement on fully pro vs semi-pro is not needed. If they knew where their long term interests lay they would support a financially sustainable semi-pro comp whose clubs could gradually transition to full-time status (the way some clubs in the NSL did in the late 1990s) over demanding a fully pro comp from the start that would probably go bust after a few years. If you really wanted to start up the NSD as a nationwide league as soon as possible, I could see the following format as viable: 12 clubs, 33 rounds + finals. The clubs would be: Brisbane Strikers Gold Coast United APIA Leichhardt Sydney Olympic Sydney United 58 Wollongong Wolves Canberra (new, with Capital Football backing) South Melbourne Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Adelaide City Hobart (new, with FFT backing) So ten existing NPL clubs and only two new clubs, both of which could be federation backed, because they'd be the only clubs representing their jurisdiction. All travel is kept pretty local (max. 2hr flight, e.g. Brisbane-Adelaide), and 42 out of 198 matches would not require any flight at all. Perth, NQ and NZ would be excluded, but could be kept in mind for future expansion. Player salaries would be at the high-end of what currently is on offer in the NPL (whose clubs have been known to lay out $700k-1m a year for the first time squad without going bankrupt). I think this would be feasible. I am in pretty much total agreement with this. I would give local clubs in ACT and TAS the choice of putting their hands up for representation first but apart from that I think your choices are bang on. There are probably 4-6 clubs that are "just" outside this group and my opinion is that if they know that there will be a mechanism for immediate promotion into this comp from year one there will be a massive flurry of investment at the 3rd level of soccer let alone the nsd. A mini NPL arms race if you will. Clubs are just looking for the chance. I doubt any local clubs in ACT or TAS would be competitive in an NSD, and they would be splitting an already small support base. Better to follow the Adelaide Utd or Newcastle Jets model in these cases, with an all-embracing club representing a whole federation (and hopefully having a reasonably good working partnership with it, unlike the toxic relationship the Wolves have with South Coast Football). But I agree that there are a good number of clubs beyond this list who could make the step up: Marconi, Manly Utd, Blacktown City, Avondale, Bentleigh, Brisbane Lions, Edgeworth Eagles, and more. There's also the possibility of new clubs in places like Dandenong (a revived Team XI bid), Geelong, Penrith, Ipswich, etc. Which is a good thing for a pro-rel set-up. The gulf in class won't be too big for the clubs that want to make the step up, and so you have a feasible promotion ladder for all teams to aspire to.
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Hey Waz, and/or anyone that has a good grasp of FQ teams, rate in order these teams coming out of Qld for 2nd division and maybe even as ALeague aspirants..
Brisbane Lions, Brisbane City, Brisbane Stikers, Peninsula Power and Western Pride.
Tks.
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https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/hollywood-s-wrexham-takeover-strengthens-case-for-a-league-promotion-relegationWhat a story that would have been here... Instead people like the Sydney Olympic owner are forced to buy into Xanthi if they want a chance to do the same thing.....
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AAFClubs/status/1337553862673063937This was on today at Rockdale FC... hope to hear news next week... At least the AAFC keep people informed even though lack of action from FA is frustrating,
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i think it we all know now what F.A stands for
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+xHey Waz, and/or anyone that has a good grasp of FQ teams, rate in order these teams coming out of Qld for 2nd division and maybe even as ALeague aspirants.. Brisbane Lions, Brisbane City, Brisbane Stikers, Peninsula Power and Western Pride. Tks. There’s not a lot of cash in QLD but here goes: - Lions: unlikely to be interested after the Roar debacle - Strikers: No money - City: no money. - Pen Power: one financial backer but would likely stretch to support NSD
- Western Pride: ambitious but not sure they have the money.
In addition:
Goal Coast: Knights or United
Brisbane: Olympic but again, no money.
Any sides coming out of QLD will need an external backer imo
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+x+xHey Waz, and/or anyone that has a good grasp of FQ teams, rate in order these teams coming out of Qld for 2nd division and maybe even as ALeague aspirants.. Brisbane Lions, Brisbane City, Brisbane Stikers, Peninsula Power and Western Pride. Tks. There’s not a lot of cash in QLD but here goes: - Lions: unlikely to be interested after the Roar debacle - Strikers: No money - City: no money. - Pen Power: one financial backer but would likely stretch to support NSD
- Western Pride: ambitious but not sure they have the money.
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Goal Coast: Knights or United
Brisbane: Olympic but again, no money.
Any sides coming out of QLD will need an external backer imo cheers man.
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So according to the much loved man of principles, JJ, P/R is but a twinkle in the eye. Surely if there is no P/R then there is no such thing as a National Second Division. There is simply the prospect of a totally different league of teams not in the A League. I’m sure investors will be queuing up to have a piece of a comp with similar running costs, less revenue and the perception that it’s a B-league. Who wouldn’t want to buy in?
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But P& R was supposed to fix everything. Just like the coming of JJ.
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+xBut P& R was supposed to fix everything. Just like the coming of JJ. I know it is never going to happen, but seriously what will you do if Hellas ever gets promoted to the A-League?
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+x+xBut P& R was supposed to fix everything. Just like the coming of JJ. I know it is never going to happen, but seriously what will you do if Hellas ever gets promoted to the A-League? What will I do if the polar ice caps melt? Will never happen although some might believe it will.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x+x+xBut P& R was supposed to fix everything. Just like the coming of JJ. I know it is never going to happen, but seriously what will you do if Hellas ever gets promoted to the A-League? What will I do if the polar ice caps melt? Will never happen although some might believe it will. Ah, climate change denier AND a bigot? hahahahahha Seriously though, that's not an answer... Purely hypothetical question then, just the absolute worse case scenario, Armageddon type stuff. 3 clubs fold and the FA in its wisdom decides, at the last minute, that they need to promote 3 new clubs into the A-league at the 11th hour because otherwise they will have to cancel the league for the year. One of those clubs happens to be South Melbourne Hellas ... what do you do? What DO you do Paulie?
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Apia, Sydney Olympuc, Sydney Utd, Marconi, Heidleberg all will rise, ahahahaha!!!
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+x+x+x+xBut P& R was supposed to fix everything. Just like the coming of JJ. I know it is never going to happen, but seriously what will you do if Hellas ever gets promoted to the A-League? What will I do if the polar ice caps melt? Will never happen although some might believe it will. Ah, climate change denier AND a bigot? hahahahahha Seriously though, that's not an answer... Purely hypothetical question then, just the absolute worse case scenario, Armageddon type stuff. 3 clubs fold and the FA in its wisdom decides, at the last minute, that they need to promote 3 new clubs into the A-league at the 11th hour because otherwise they will have to cancel the league for the year. One of those clubs happens to be South Melbourne Hellas ... what do you do? What DO you do Paulie? As if I have to respond to nonsense lol.
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+x+x+x+x+xBut P& R was supposed to fix everything. Just like the coming of JJ. I know it is never going to happen, but seriously what will you do if Hellas ever gets promoted to the A-League? What will I do if the polar ice caps melt? Will never happen although some might believe it will. Ah, climate change denier AND a bigot? hahahahahha Seriously though, that's not an answer... Purely hypothetical question then, just the absolute worse case scenario, Armageddon type stuff. 3 clubs fold and the FA in its wisdom decides, at the last minute, that they need to promote 3 new clubs into the A-league at the 11th hour because otherwise they will have to cancel the league for the year. One of those clubs happens to be South Melbourne Hellas ... what do you do? What DO you do Paulie? As if I have to respond to nonsense lol. Dont worry, either way you win. If the polar ice caps do melt then Lakeside will probably be underwater.....
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