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+xHowe the hell have MV only played 1 game 3 weeks in to season? I understand one game postponed wasnt it? Or have two been postponed? This is ludicrous If the FFA (or whoever is in charge of scheduling), had moved the Sydney teams and Wellington to somewhere like the gold coast on a temporary basis, this would not have occurred. it would have been full steam ahead. The cynic in me wonders if this would have happened if it was Melbourne. anyway… From a Victory POV, this is probably a good thing. We have been able to get a few solid weeks of training in together and we will be going to Adelaide with a full squad. Also, spare a thought for Perth who are yet to play.
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clockwork orange
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+x+x+x+x+xHilarious. One case in 113 days and known to have come from overseas quarantine. What to do? Do we stop people bringing the virus back to Australia? - No, international flights still coming in - bring it on. But let's shutdown a city of 3 million people. Better still - let's tell people they will be in mortal danger after 6pm tonight so that shopping centres are totally packed for the next 6 hours!! But the virus was apparently not contagious yesterday when they first knew of this and in fact is only contagious after 6pm tonight so all good. The good news is this highly contagious virus strain that is an extreme risk is only going to be so for 3 days Australia have really lost the plot with its response. Ever since the Victorian outbreak, overcautious haphazard rules have become the normal The WHO specifically said lockdowns arent a mechanism for beating the virus and only serve the purpose of buying time so regions overwhelmed by large numbers have time to get their resources in check. But what do they know? 1 fucking case and a major city is shut down. And we see the standard response of half the city panic buying while the other half try to flee This is actually a textbook response and is perfect. It maybe could have been done last night starting today that’s all.
What it does is put a lid on this thing and buys time to establish where the infections have been started and will give them time to ramp up contact tracing before it blows out of sight.
Good response. Australia has a suppression strategy, not an elimination strategy. There is 1 fucking case and by the time they get contact tracers out over the next 48 hours they might find 2 or 3. Big deal The situation is far from dire I dont think you understand how impractical it is for every major region to yoyo in and out of lockdown everytime there is a case. We have seen this with Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and now Brisbane. 4 major lockdowns in a 2 month period, with an estimated 12 months before our circumstances change Panic buying, economic hardship, closures, disruptions to life and sport, inconsistency, fatigue, mental health issues etc...etc...etc... We have never been in a situation where 1 case has been deemed too overwhelming and worthy of keeping things in check until contact tracers get on top of things. Australia has changed tact and it is the furthest thing from a good response For 9 months as a Victorian I have been waiting for the day we catch up to the other states. It has become increasingly apparent we're at the standard and you guys are going to come to us Fuckwit after Fuckwit posting their ignorance and hatred. Absolutely no respect for the familys of the 820 Victorians who died of Covid in the last uncontrolled outbreak. No respect for the pain and suffering of millions of Victorians that stood and followed the rules and brought that horror to a halt. Now we face a new and greater threat from a new direction and the callous pieces of shit want to see more death and suffering because somehow a game of football is important. Even the Trumpist simp that is the Nation's Prime Minister gets it: 'This isn't any ordinary strain'"I know they will be some in Brisbane today asking 'why is this necessary? There is only one case. '" said Prime Minster Scott Morrison."Well, this isn't any ordinary case."This is a very special case and one that requires us to treat things quite differently until we know more and we will learn much in the next few days. So now that we know that the person had the amazingly contagious UK strain and had more than 140 ‘close contacts’ but only passed it on to her partner, how about we reduce the level of alarmism?
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clockwork orange
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+x+x+x+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs. Do you understand the difference between 1-3 infected people leaving quarantine vs thousands of infected people entering a country each day. The situation for us vs other countries cant even be compared. You're talking as if other countries havent worked it out yet As much as you want to think other countries are in the wrong by simply not staying in lockdown, I bet there are plenty of people around the world scratching their heads as to why the 3 biggest cities in Australia are under restrictions on a day where there was 1 case new announced. We're fighting a war simulation with paintball bullets I have friends in the UK, one of them fit as fiddle. Does iron man and shit like that. Has covid now says it absolutely fuckin wrecked him, has completely lost his sense of smell and taste, feels exhausted a lot. Don't know about you, but I'd rather deal with the lockdowns and shit for a few more months until the vaccines roll out rather than deal with potentially permanent damage to my lungs and losing 2 of my 5 senses in my 30's. I couldn't give a fuck if people over seas are scratching their heads. Ok. Meanwhile numerous premier league players get COVID, do their quarantine and go straight back into the starting line up. But let’s lock down the world because your mate felt poorly. In Australia there’s currently more chance of dying in a car accident than dying of COVID. Better stay under your bed.
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Footyball
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+x+x+xThe amount of disruption is insane, countries where the virus is 100x worse aren't facing this There’s a clue in what you’ve said as to WHY Australia isn’t 100x worse. European nations aren't using mandatory incoming quarantines like Australia. Australia is also an island nation making it more difficult for the virus to spread Yes NZ is gert by sea as well. But no, the borders over there will remain closed forever and isn't she doing a great Political job as is McGowan. There have elections in WA In March you know. This season has turned out hectic already.
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lukerobinho
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+x+xThe amount of disruption is insane, countries where the virus is 100x worse aren't facing this There’s a clue in what you’ve said as to WHY Australia isn’t 100x worse. European nations aren't using mandatory incoming quarantines like Australia. Australia is also an island nation making it more difficult for the virus to spread
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+x+xThe amount of disruption is insane, countries where the virus is 100x worse aren't facing this There’s a clue in what you’ve said as to WHY Australia isn’t 100x worse. Its called a Weak Federal Constitution whereby the States have been granted too much power. Have to live with it now. You know the words, don't go for a quiet holiday that you deserve interstate because if one person farts a covid positive your two week holiday may leave you stranded there for 8-10 weeks.
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Waz
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+xThe amount of disruption is insane, countries where the virus is 100x worse aren't facing this There’s a clue in what you’ve said as to WHY Australia isn’t 100x worse.
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lukerobinho
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The amount of disruption is insane, countries where the virus is 100x worse aren't facing this
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paulc
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+xHowe the hell have MV only played 1 game 3 weeks in to season? I understand one game postponed wasnt it? Or have two been postponed? This is ludicrous MV were shell shocked and are in hiding still recuperating 😂
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+x+x+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs. Do you understand the difference between 1-3 infected people leaving quarantine vs thousands of infected people entering a country each day. The situation for us vs other countries cant even be compared. You're talking as if other countries havent worked it out yet As much as you want to think other countries are in the wrong by simply not staying in lockdown, I bet there are plenty of people around the world scratching their heads as to why the 3 biggest cities in Australia are under restrictions on a day where there was 1 case new announced. We're fighting a war simulation with paintball bullets I have friends in the UK, one of them fit as fiddle. Does iron man and shit like that. Has covid now says it absolutely fuckin wrecked him, has completely lost his sense of smell and taste, feels exhausted a lot. Don't know about you, but I'd rather deal with the lockdowns and shit for a few more months until the vaccines roll out rather than deal with potentially permanent damage to my lungs and losing 2 of my 5 senses in my 30's. I couldn't give a fuck if people over seas are scratching their heads.
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Waz
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+xHowe the hell have MV only played 1 game 3 weeks in to season? I understand one game postponed wasnt it? Or have two been postponed? This is ludicrous It was a GOOD GAME though 😁
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clockwork orange
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+xHowe the hell have MV only played 1 game 3 weeks in to season? I understand one game postponed wasnt it? Or have two been postponed? This is ludicrous No it’s not. If Victory and Roar had played, Australia could now be in the same situation as the UK. You know it’s true.
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Howe the hell have MV only played 1 game 3 weeks in to season? I understand one game postponed wasnt it? Or have two been postponed? This is ludicrous
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+x+x+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? The people who are hoping for that probably are. And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs. Question: do you think we should automatically go into hard lockdown every time there is a single COVID case say in the next two years? We have set up our Covid response where a case is treated like the end of the world, especially ifs it’s outside NSW. This all goes back to the start where most of the country eliminated Covid by fluke, we never learnt to live with it. it will be absolute chaos if the UK strain gets us.
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+x+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs. Do you understand the difference between 1-3 infected people leaving quarantine vs thousands of infected people entering a country each day. The situation for us vs other countries cant even be compared. You're talking as if other countries havent worked it out yet As much as you want to think other countries are in the wrong by simply not staying in lockdown, I bet there are plenty of people around the world scratching their heads as to why the 3 biggest cities in Australia are under restrictions on a day where there was 1 case new announced. We're fighting a war simulation with paintball bullets
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clockwork orange
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+x+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? The people who are hoping for that probably are. And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs. Question: do you think we should automatically go into hard lockdown every time there is a single COVID case say in the next two years?
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+x+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? The people who are hoping for that probably are. And no. Quite obviously. I think the majority of people know why these places have found it difficult to stem the flow, if you don't, I can only suggest some catching up of current affairs.
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clockwork orange
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+xYou wouldn't live in a burning house and then realise, should i get the hose now, or should I wait until it's in my bedroom? You mean like you wouldn’t have people working in a quarantine hotel, but let them catch public transport to and from work ... oh, wait. The people that thought this was a great system are the very same people who have decreed that for your own safety you need to wear a mask while driving by yourself. Hilarious. You couldn’t make this up.
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bluebird2
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+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns. Some people don't realise how lucky we are. The US is on fire, the UK is on fire. Why? because they didn't do enough to eliminate the tinder, we are eliminating the tinder and any other form of flammables. You wouldn't live in a burning house and then realise, should i get the hose now, or should I wait until it's in my bedroom? Do the hard yards until we get a functioning vaccine, then we can start harping on about how many numbers is too much for a lockdown. That simply isnt true: 1/ Australia has quarantine at the border where as other countries dont. This means we dont have a continual influx of patient zeroes 2/ Australia has regulated social distancing nationwide with an estimated 90% compliance which is enough for our low viral activity To say that the other countries can beat the virus by lockdown is naive. The minute a country comes out of lockdown they are simply hit by another wave and thrown back into it. The situation other countries are in you simply cannot fathom and it doesnt change for another 12 months. To say this can be beaten by rules and nagging is an insult and implies their leaders are simply watching their citizens dies because they dont have a red panic button Australia simply doesnt have the viral activity to warrant the response some people are demanding. Like ClockworkOrange said, this woman was on the same magic carpet ride tour of the state that everybody with the virus seems to take and not a single person infected. We have a system that eliminates the virus that other countries simply dont have the luxury of Once we destroy compliance with non-sensical or heavy handed laws then all we are left with is quarantine and prayer books
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clockwork orange
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+xliterally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns.
If there really are people wishing this, why wouldn’t they simply go into their own hard lockdown? Or are you suggesting that these governments are mandating that people leave their homes or not wear masks? If I thought I needed to keep my family locked down I would not wait for the government to tell me to do it. Is this what society has become? Seriously?
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Ds98
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literally people all over the world hoping their governments were as strong as ours in having the balls to go into hard lockdowns. Some people don't realise how lucky we are. The US is on fire, the UK is on fire. Why? because they didn't do enough to eliminate the tinder, we are eliminating the tinder and any other form of flammables.
You wouldn't live in a burning house and then realise, should i get the hose now, or should I wait until it's in my bedroom? Do the hard yards until we get a functioning vaccine, then we can start harping on about how many numbers is too much for a lockdown.
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+x+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
How many times has your house burnt down?
My house has never burnt down .... but I still have house insurance.
This lockdown is insurance. Do you pack up your stuff and your family each night and evacuate? Becuase if you did, in the event there is a fire, you'll stand a much better chance Insurance doesnt stop your house from burning down. It gives you money in the event it does If you're talking about a physical emergency response being undertaken by the general population then it has to be tied to an active threat If lockdown is an insurance, and insurance is warranted, then it should be permanent. because the point being made is the risk today for Brisbane is the same as it was over 100 days ago, and the same as it will be 100 days from now
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clockwork orange
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+x+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
How many times has your house burnt down?
My house has never burnt down .... but I still have house insurance.
This lockdown is insurance.
Are you sure three days lockdown is enough Waz? Perhaps we just should never go out again ... that’s the safest option. Insurance is why we have quarantine, testing plus contact tracing. This lockdown is more like you having house insurance but then never cooking or lighting a candle in your house ... just in case your house burns down. I suppose you’re all for wearing masks inside your car when driving alone ... just in case, right?
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3 day lockdown to prevent a much longer lockdown later
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Waz
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+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
How many times has your house burnt down?
My house has never burnt down .... but I still have house insurance.
This lockdown is insurance.
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bluebird2
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+xThe person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
I think people tend to forget we have a good system in place for stopping this from spreading before we even know its there. Its not too much to think the rule makers will have faith in their own systems
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clockwork orange
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The person who “travelled widely on public transport” with this new super-fast spreading virus has so far failed to pass it on to anyone ... a week later. No. cases in Brisbane today = ZERO (same as yesterday) No. cases in Brisbane in last 115 days = 1 No. People in lockdown = 2,000,000+
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Victoria closing their borders to people travelling from greater Brisbane, I wouldn't expect this game to be held in the next week now.
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bluebird2
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+x+xSo..... For all those who feel/believe the steps taken currently is overboard/overreacting due to the current extreme low number of case(s), what is YOUR magic number of cases (and/or deaths) before you believe that these types of steps should be activated/taken by the government(s)?? What’s your number for coming out of lockdown
This is the part people dont realise. Yes lockdowns can be a bit of a laugh but there is no threshold for ending them Take Victoria for example: Threshold for going into lockdown - 50 cases a day. Threshold for coming out of lockdown - complete elimination. Penalty for outbreak - being fined for not wearing a mask for the duration of the pandemic And lockdowns as a precaution like what we have now are worse because there is always an element of risk and uncertainty As I said, this virus takes shape slowly. You need 28 days of no transmission to be sure this particular outbreak has been beaten. Now let me explain the significance of the words in bold: Melbourne had an outbreak late October, Adelaide had one mid November, Sydney had one mid December, and now Brisbane may be facing one. There are 22 million cases worldwide and the outbreaks we are having as a result are increasing Now if the response is going to be a standard 5-6 weeks of precautionary hardship then Australia, like Victoria, will be in a permanent state of heavy handed rules, restrictions and regulations. By the time the lockdown rules have finished the state is ready for the next one. Victoria had 3 weeks of freedom before our "2021 like no other" promises were taken away from us in fear that 3 contacts sitting in isolation would turn us into America Australia has lost its grip on this thing. We're not like other countries where they are dealing with thousands of cases each day, constant introductions of patient zeroes, hundreds of dead each day, non compliance, chaos etc... We have a simple cycle of quarantine to cut out 99.99% of infections, small outbreaks, contact tracing to manage it, and precautionary social distancing and hygiene practices for the public If the response doesnt match the risk people will simply overreact to match the energy of the decision makers like we have seen with panic buying and fleeing, or stop complying like we saw during the Melbourne outbreak
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lukerobinho
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New lockdown is a joke
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