Will melbourne continue to wander for a win or west Sydney get a victory tonight? 

Truly hideous MCG :)

TBH Melbourne "Wanderers" is fitting in their current form, love both of them to just beat each other up and draw But if Duke is playing I fancy them keeping MW at the bottom of the table, been quiet on the boards by the MIA supporters.....

Poachers FC V Ultimate Poachers... 

Hoping for a number of red cards for both teams and a draw...

Well Matt Simon should have got one for his abuse of Ziggy Gordon

 

Lawrie-Lattanzio goes from starting last 2 games, to not even on the bench? Plenty of bigger names who are playing worse than him 

Tate Russell is such a good player. I think he can be as good as cacace is

Georgevski doing everything he can to ruin every opportunity wanderers have. 

Protecting him. He'll play on Wednesday next week 

Dorrans calm from the spot. Looking more and more like the experience WSW have needed in midfield for a long time. 

Young Natta impressive again at the back.

Yeboah is a perfect player you need to play in the reserves for a bit to regain form and confidence 

Touché yeboah 

Surely Acton would have done better there?

Given the mistakes Crocombe has been making, surely it's only a matter of time before we see Acton again.

See ya grant

This has to be the worst team performance in the aleague for a long time, I would almost be happy if it wasn't so pathetic, it's actually pretty sad.

And I'm aware of the mariners history, but that was just ugly, no movement on or off the ball, poor positioning, stupid dicision making, nothing in the final 3rd.

Shotton, butterfield are trash

Victory just don’t look like scoring. Like, not even close. 

Watching it delayed but had to pop in just to say:

Christ Robbie Kruse is easy to dislike 

Is it just me or does it seem Carl's lining up, pre-game.

Can relate.

Physically that was an ugly, dangerous game.

High boot in box and connecting does not get a card? I do not understand that, especially when it was as dangerous as the Dorrans one that really hurt Rojas.

Kruse having a tanty and not shaking hands with his coach when he came off sums up his petulance (on and off the field) but shows how little at least one senior player thinks of Brebs. No fear and no respect. Drop him for a week regardless of his attacking skill to remind him who the boss is.

Victory players just don't know each other at all. All night they played as individuals getting cranky at one another for not reading each others' minds. Something needs to be simplified until they can find their feet as a group.

Totally agree with this. Rudy should have gotten his second yellow. I was baffled to see him stay on.

And very average from Kruse. Not good leadership from a senior player. 

Can’t blame the players.
Brebner is not up to the job.
He needs to go.

I didn't even think we played as awful as everyone says. I don't think shotton and butterfield are all that bad,  i do think it's incredibly disjointed,  i think broxham has been a big problem,  but the worst thing has been whatever that front 3 is when rudy isn't playing. It's like the system hasnt been changed when he's not playing (which he hasnt been the whole time) when really it should really resemble the old archie/kosta or archie/rojas front two, instead those wingers are sitting back and butterfield has to push.  It's very odd. I don't think Brebner appears to have much time left,  which just wasted another damn season. 

Spot on

What did Gestede did there isnt a sign of a good team, forget his ability for a moment but a good player in a good team would never do something so wreck-less that would let the team down, I hate to be in the changing room with the verbal that would have thrown around after that.

Victory have no identity on the pitch, they lost and rudderless and what's worrying is out of all teams is they are probably the only team that look to have this problem its not getting better but worse!

Their foreign contingent is a problem too, only MacManaman is probably the only player that could argue that he's done well (even off 1 game), but the rest? Shotton looks like his on a holiday with that defending, Butterfield hasnt done anything worthy since the Perth game at home, and Gestede hasnt gone off to a great start in getting the fans onside with feet not his head in the wrong penalty box...

The only thing worthy is Birkan Kirdar who they should build an midfield around for not just for this season but for the next ones after that as I have a feeling he will probably be there best or one of their best players in a few years time when all of this mess gets sorted out.

WSW who rely on pace and power, will take the win but really need more quality in the final third, apart from the penalty they didnt create anything clear cut and look to rely alot on Troisi, maybe with another creative midfield talent in Auglah should be given a go as an option? But with Duke coming there are really doubling up on the pace and power game but they really need to continue to evolve against better sides.