Manchester United looking to buy the mariners and move them to Sydney


Manchester United looking to buy the mariners and move them to Sydney

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PIFA - 13 Apr 2021 8:56 AM
So South Melbourne couldn't relocate the club when they wanted to buy the license, the Canberra mob couldn't relocate the club when they wanted to buy the license, but Manchester United CAN relocate the club, to the already overcrowded Sydney market... just sheer stupidity if this is allowed to happen. Don't CCM own their stadium AND their CoE? If that kind of infrastructure is included in the deal, why would you even want to relocate in the first place?

Hahaha PIFA, I heard Man Utd where jumping  in to buy CCM BEFORE South get their grubby little hands on it and become the biggest club in Asia...
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No to more fucking colony clubs and definitely no to having the glazers involved.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 13 Apr 2021 11:21 PM
PIFA - 13 Apr 2021 8:56 AM

Hahaha PIFA, I heard Man Utd where jumping  in to buy CCM BEFORE South get their grubby little hands on it and become the biggest club in Asia...

HAHA!!!!

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PIFA - 13 Apr 2021 8:56 AM
Don't CCM own their stadium AND their CoE? If that kind of infrastructure is included in the deal, why would you even want to relocate in the first place?

This is an important point.
The answer to the question is: no, they don't.
Because there is no club.
Charlesworth owns a license to participate in the A-League  AND  he owns the property personally.
He owns the right to assemble a team and place them in the league.  He achieves this, in the main, with one year contracts.
He can sell the license, with or without the associated property, at any time, as long as a majority of owners approve the sale.


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bettega - 14 Apr 2021 8:52 AM
PIFA - 13 Apr 2021 8:56 AM

This is an important point.
The answer to the question is: no, they don't.
Because there is no club.
Charlesworth owns a license to participate in the A-League  AND  he owns the property personally.
He owns the right to assemble a team and place them in the league.  He achieves this, in the main, with one year contracts.
He can sell the license, with or without the associated property, at any time, as long as a majority of owners approve the sale.


This is the prob what has occurred as we've all seen.
Allowing the competitors having too much of the say, the direction of the sport.
Most times its for their own benefit not for the good of sport in general.
Off topic but similar prob is with Supercars that I'm into - the Race Teams have too much power over the Governing body.
That sport has also been on a decline for some years as well due to mis management despite their new Fox deal done recently.



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bettega - 14 Apr 2021 8:52 AM
PIFA - 13 Apr 2021 8:56 AM

This is an important point.
The answer to the question is: no, they don't.
Because there is no club.
Charlesworth owns a license to participate in the A-League  AND  he owns the property personally.
He owns the right to assemble a team and place them in the league.  He achieves this, in the main, with one year contracts.
He can sell the license, with or without the associated property, at any time, as long as a majority of owners approve the sale.


Ah, okay. For some reason I thought I'd read an article where Charlesworth had said he was willing to package it all together in order to make the sale more attractive. Just read an article saying that they don't own the stadium, as the council doesn't wish to sell it. Regardless, the league needs MORE teams, not uprooting a club and killing off a supporter base. If Manchester United wants a team that badly, let them buy a license and base another team in Sydney, even though I think the last thing the league needs is another team from Sydney in the mix.

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Footballking55 - 13 Apr 2021 4:37 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 13 Apr 2021 3:54 PM

One deal akin to Aaron Mooy's move to China would say that Manchester City are well ahead in the deal. Its a no brainer that they want to come.

Did CFG receive anything for that? I thought he was signed for Brighton after being on loan.

Surely any transfer commission pales in significance to the money spent propping up Melb. City.

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sydneyfc1987 - 14 Apr 2021 12:28 PM
Footballking55 - 13 Apr 2021 4:37 PM

Did CFG receive anything for that? I thought he was signed for Brighton after being on loan.

Surely any transfer commission pales in significance to the money spent propping up Melb. City.

Not sure if they had any on-sell clauses in their sale to Huddersfield, but the original deal saw the Mooy transfer fee basically double the initial investment of CFG into Heart.  

https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/epl/premier-league-transfer-news-aaron-mooy-completes-move-to-huddersfield-town/news-story/f25cdd29f316dd3df16e447653e087e4

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So, if Manchester City have Melbourne City and Manchester United buy Central Coast could this be the start of the fabled European Super League? Could Chelsea buy Melbourne Victory? Bayern Munich buy Adelaide? Ajax buy Brisbane? Juventus buy Western United? AC Milan buy Western Sydney Wanderers?

Could be a nice way for these clubs to step around UEFA....
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This BS story sure has grabbed the headlines and clicks
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nick1408 - 14 Apr 2021 3:24 PM
So, if Manchester City have Melbourne City and Manchester United buy Central Coast could this be the start of the fabled European Super League? Could Chelsea buy Melbourne Victory? Bayern Munich buy Adelaide? Ajax buy Brisbane? Juventus buy Western United? AC Milan buy Western Sydney Wanderers?

Could be a nice way for these clubs to step around UEFA....

I heard the Glazers are buying Western United (or maybe its the other way around???) and the stadium out in the sticks will be called "New Trafford" 
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Not sure who said Central Coast Council don't wan't to sell the stadium? have you seen their books? $115m loss last year... they will sell it to the right buyer..
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jas88 - 15 Apr 2021 12:29 PM
Not sure who said Central Coast Council don't wan't to sell the stadium? have you seen their books? $115m loss last year... they will sell it to the right buyer..

Somehow they run the stadium at a loss. John Singleton ran it at a profit for years. They take over and it runs at a loss and they screw their anchor tenant.  
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jas88 - 15 Apr 2021 12:29 PM
Not sure who said Central Coast Council don't wan't to sell the stadium? have you seen their books? $115m loss last year... they will sell it to the right buyer..

Yep it's ripe for a game changing mixed use development, especially with a potential NRL franchise dead in the water.

As a football fan it's a great place to watch a game on a sunny afternoon but from an urban planning point of view it's a disaster for Gosford, totally cutting the CBD from the waterfront.

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nick1408 - 14 Apr 2021 3:24 PM
So, if Manchester City have Melbourne City and Manchester United buy Central Coast could this be the start of the fabled European Super League? Could Chelsea buy Melbourne Victory? Bayern Munich buy Adelaide? Ajax buy Brisbane? Juventus buy Western United? AC Milan buy Western Sydney Wanderers?

Could be a nice way for these clubs to step around UEFA....

Xanthi fc buying into Perth Glory. Yes I get this.
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sydneyfc1987 - 15 Apr 2021 1:07 PM
jas88 - 15 Apr 2021 12:29 PM

Yep it's ripe for a game changing mixed use development, especially with a potential NRL franchise dead in the water.

As a football fan it's a great place to watch a game on a sunny afternoon but from an urban planning point of view it's a disaster for Gosford, totally cutting the CBD from the waterfront.

As part of the Mariners proposal access through to the waterfront is part of their proposal, as is opening the precinct to the public 365 days a year as it was when it was Grahame Park. The Council has stuffed up the other easy access through the Leagues club fields which now include large tidal pools, which rarely fill. When they do and someone drowns you can be sure that area will be completely closed off as well.



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sydneyfc1987 - 15 Apr 2021 1:07 PM
jas88 - 15 Apr 2021 12:29 PM

Yep it's ripe for a game changing mixed use development, especially with a potential NRL franchise dead in the water.

As a football fan it's a great place to watch a game on a sunny afternoon but from an urban planning point of view it's a disaster for Gosford, totally cutting the CBD from the waterfront.

Urban planning has no place in Gosford, from the paid parking station taking up the best retail site, to the single lane main street (Mann's street), to the derelict Market place shopping complex that use up a full block in the CBD and is now nothing more than free 2 level car park, Gosford is a town planners nightmare.
On a side note it's not Graham park that cuts the CBD from the water, it's the Leagues Club.
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They should move the water.
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soccerfoo - 15 Apr 2021 3:39 PM
They should move the water.

That would be cheaper.
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Charlesworth will package up the club license and COE together, they've been trying to get ownership of teh stadium for over a decade now and the council still won't sell it to them. Having a club with a small but loyal following, less than an hour from the largest city in the country, with a beautiful stadium by the water would tick a lot of boxes for a rich foreign club looking to invest. They don't have to build anything, the bricks and mortar are there and ready to hit the ground running and tap into the aussie football nursery. 

A club that's in it for purely football reasons should snap it up. Develop talent and sell it for big transfer fees. There's little money to be made by merchandising in australia. 
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kaufusi - 16 Apr 2021 3:04 PM
Charlesworth will package up the club license and COE together, they've been trying to get ownership of teh stadium for over a decade now and the council still won't sell it to them. Having a club with a small but loyal following, less than an hour from the largest city in the country, with a beautiful stadium by the water would tick a lot of boxes for a rich foreign club looking to invest. They don't have to build anything, the bricks and mortar are there and ready to hit the ground running and tap into the aussie football nursery. 

A club that's in it for purely football reasons should snap it up. Develop talent and sell it for big transfer fees. There's little money to be made by merchandising in australia. 

Now that the council knows he's trying to sell to whoever, would they really be that keen to hand it over to private interests merely so that he can onsell it?

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kaufusi - 16 Apr 2021 3:04 PM
Charlesworth will package up the club license and COE together, they've been trying to get ownership of teh stadium for over a decade now and the council still won't sell it to them. Having a club with a small but loyal following, less than an hour from the largest city in the country, with a beautiful stadium by the water would tick a lot of boxes for a rich foreign club looking to invest. They don't have to build anything, the bricks and mortar are there and ready to hit the ground running and tap into the aussie football nursery. 

A club that's in it for purely football reasons should snap it up. Develop talent and sell it for big transfer fees. There's little money to be made by merchandising in australia. 

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kaufusi - 16 Apr 2021 3:04 PM

Now that the council knows he's trying to sell to whoever, would they really be that keen to hand it over to private interests merely so that he can onsell it?

He's only talking the license and the land at the COE, most of which can only be used for fields. 

The Council who took over what operated as a profitable stadium for years under Singleton and made it into a loss maker. They need to outsource the management rights. They obviously can't even do the basic jobs of a Council, let alone run a stadium properly.

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soccerfoo - 15 Apr 2021 2:06 PM
nick1408 - 14 Apr 2021 3:24 PM

Xanthi fc buying into Perth Glory. Yes I get this.

I want Hellas Verona to buy Brisbane Roar just for the apoplexy it would cause our resident racist.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 Apr 2021 11:43 PM
soccerfoo - 15 Apr 2021 2:06 PM

I want Hellas Verona to buy Brisbane Roar just for the apoplexy it would cause our resident racist.

Maybe Panathanakos can buy Western Utd and build them that shovel ready stadium.
I for one would love to see Mariners stay right where they are. In saying that, there have been NO takers for a number of years as Charlesworth has not been able to on sell his license to another corporation. I understand that one main critical point is that the Central Coast region is too far from the business hub of Sydney. Furthermore, that makes it awkward for spoilt business types to operate their interests from the Central Coast region.
All the best convincing them otherwise.
Whats the answer, exist a while longer being poor? How do they keep their players for the coming season? Kuol will be gone after June. They might have to relocate in a business decision.
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soccerfoo - 17 Apr 2021 3:55 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 16 Apr 2021 11:43 PM

Maybe Panathanakos can buy Western Utd and build them that shovel ready stadium.
I for one would love to see Mariners stay right where they are. In saying that, there have been NO takers for a number of years as Charlesworth has not been able to on sell his license to another corporation. I understand that one main critical point is that the Central Coast region is too far from the business hub of Sydney. Furthermore, that makes it awkward for spoilt business types to operate their interests from the Central Coast region.
All the best convincing them otherwise.
Whats the answer, exist a while longer being poor? How do they keep their players for the coming season? Kuol will be gone after June. They might have to relocate in a business decision.

If Panathanakos bought SMHellas you wouldn’t notice the difference.

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