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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSaw online in a NPL Facebook group that both clubs will play their remaining home games this season behind closed doors. As a supporter of a sister club of Sydney United, I'm disappointed in them for getting involved in an incident like this. I don't know everything that has gone on, so I'm not going to go too in depth with it, but it's an incident like this that makes a NSD a much harder proposition. As a club that's been looking to be involved with a NSD, I would've expected the SU58 fans to realize the consequences of their actions in the grand scheme of things, but alas... there wasn't much thinking going on it would appear. The shame about an incident like this is that it gives all the people who want to s*** on ethnic clubs another reason to. We're all thrown under the bus, rather than the few individuals that have caused the problems. For me: life bans are in order, and I'd say the same if it was Melbourne Knights fans in the spotlight too. We don't want people like that at our grounds, we want an environment that our entire community can come out to and enjoy. Some of the comments in this thread have been extremely disappointing to see, and some of them no surprise at all when you see who the poster is. What I will say is that a lot of ethnic clubs have moved on, and are far more inclusive now than they were in the old days. Look through the teamsheets, look at who shows up on matchdays in the stands, and so on. At Knights, we're still extremely proud of our ties to the Croatian community, but we're not a closed shop: anyone can support the club, and anyone can play for the club. Some of you are still stuck in the past, whilst claiming that we need to move on... Very well said. I am not shit stirring - genuinely wondering - do fans still chant Cro-Ah-Tzee-A (apologies for spelling - only way I could sound it out) at games? My only experience with Croatian teams was the NSL and that forever rings in my ears. I have stayed away from any Croatian games since then because I felt like an outsider. I would be happy to reset my expectations if it has changed. Yeah, we do. It still rings around just after we score goals, and it can get pretty loud at times. It's not a chant designed to intimidate, or at least it isn't anymore :) Personally, I'm not Croatian, but that hasn't stopped me from becoming a Knights fans. I grew disinterested with Australian football at a professional level around 2016, and dropped down to NPL football, where my enjoyment of Australian football was rekindled. It's been a roller-coaster since then, but I've really enjoyed it. I'm based interstate atm, so I can't get to Somers St unfortunately, but I still manage to catch our games every week via a stream on the NPL Victoria Facebook page, and there's a great show on FNR called 'The Knight Train' that is broadcast every Monday where they discuss everything Melbourne Knights related. My loss right? But I wouldn't go and watch any team chanting 'croatia' at a game anywhere in Australia unless they were playing Croatia. You can say it's inclusive all you like, and it probably is, but Joe average is not turning up to watch that and neither am I. Call me a white Anglo skip or some other bullshit but my dad was Croatian and that's how I feel about it. I say this as someone who's travelled multiple times to Croatia. I doubt I'm alone. The Australian National team coach certainly looks included in the image below:  I wasn't talking about him. I'm talking about me and blokes like me. Mouth all the same inanities such as 'inclusion' and 'diversity' and 'community' all you like. I'm just saying, and I get I'm not everyone, I'm not interested in going to a club where the vast majority of supporters are Croatians or Greeks or Macedonians or Calathumpians. Even the NSL recognised it years ago that they needed to throw off the ethnic 'badges' to broaden their appeal. But yeah, keep on blaming Lowy , the Crawford report and the FFA. And by the way regards that photo. If you didn't know that was Arnold you'd think that was taken in Croatia not Australia so I fail to see how shooting yourself in the foot proves any sort of point at all. These ethnic "badges" that so offend you where "thrown" off well before Lowy and even the Crawford report, but if words like inclusion and community are inanities to you well OK then, nothing much I can say to dissuade you. There are 11 franchises in Australia you can throw your support behind without worrying about being around too many of one type of Australian... its your choice thats my point, as it is our choice to congregate in whatever number we want and celebrate this wonderful multicultural country we call home. You see a flag that offends you in the photo, I see a child of a migrant Maltese family being carried on the shoulders of a crowd of Croatian Australians. I said 'inanities' not because I don't believe in them but because, in this context, the words used are nothing more than trying to put lipstick on a pig. And. Nothing in that photo or what badges teams choose to wear offends me. You have completely missed the point.
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Fucking he'll, why is anyone still talking about this?!!! There was a brawl after a Brisbane Premier League game a month or so ago, sparked by racial abuse & no one even mentioned it on here
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+xFucking he'll, why is anyone still talking about this?!!! There was a brawl after a Brisbane Premier League game a month or so ago, sparked by racial abuse & no one even mentioned it on here Maybe because the racial abuse wasn't in any way related to Balkan ethnicities? Just a stab in the dark as I dont know the incident you are referring too but the pro APL media would have been all over it if it was.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSaw online in a NPL Facebook group that both clubs will play their remaining home games this season behind closed doors. As a supporter of a sister club of Sydney United, I'm disappointed in them for getting involved in an incident like this. I don't know everything that has gone on, so I'm not going to go too in depth with it, but it's an incident like this that makes a NSD a much harder proposition. As a club that's been looking to be involved with a NSD, I would've expected the SU58 fans to realize the consequences of their actions in the grand scheme of things, but alas... there wasn't much thinking going on it would appear. The shame about an incident like this is that it gives all the people who want to s*** on ethnic clubs another reason to. We're all thrown under the bus, rather than the few individuals that have caused the problems. For me: life bans are in order, and I'd say the same if it was Melbourne Knights fans in the spotlight too. We don't want people like that at our grounds, we want an environment that our entire community can come out to and enjoy. Some of the comments in this thread have been extremely disappointing to see, and some of them no surprise at all when you see who the poster is. What I will say is that a lot of ethnic clubs have moved on, and are far more inclusive now than they were in the old days. Look through the teamsheets, look at who shows up on matchdays in the stands, and so on. At Knights, we're still extremely proud of our ties to the Croatian community, but we're not a closed shop: anyone can support the club, and anyone can play for the club. Some of you are still stuck in the past, whilst claiming that we need to move on... Very well said. I am not shit stirring - genuinely wondering - do fans still chant Cro-Ah-Tzee-A (apologies for spelling - only way I could sound it out) at games? My only experience with Croatian teams was the NSL and that forever rings in my ears. I have stayed away from any Croatian games since then because I felt like an outsider. I would be happy to reset my expectations if it has changed. Yeah, we do. It still rings around just after we score goals, and it can get pretty loud at times. It's not a chant designed to intimidate, or at least it isn't anymore :) Personally, I'm not Croatian, but that hasn't stopped me from becoming a Knights fans. I grew disinterested with Australian football at a professional level around 2016, and dropped down to NPL football, where my enjoyment of Australian football was rekindled. It's been a roller-coaster since then, but I've really enjoyed it. I'm based interstate atm, so I can't get to Somers St unfortunately, but I still manage to catch our games every week via a stream on the NPL Victoria Facebook page, and there's a great show on FNR called 'The Knight Train' that is broadcast every Monday where they discuss everything Melbourne Knights related. My loss right? But I wouldn't go and watch any team chanting 'croatia' at a game anywhere in Australia unless they were playing Croatia. You can say it's inclusive all you like, and it probably is, but Joe average is not turning up to watch that and neither am I. Call me a white Anglo skip or some other bullshit but my dad was Croatian and that's how I feel about it. I say this as someone who's travelled multiple times to Croatia. I doubt I'm alone. The Australian National team coach certainly looks included in the image below: I wasn't talking about him. I'm talking about me and blokes like me. Mouth all the same inanities such as 'inclusion' and 'diversity' and 'community' all you like. I'm just saying, and I get I'm not everyone, I'm not interested in going to a club where the vast majority of supporters are Croatians or Greeks or Macedonians or Calathumpians. Even the NSL recognised it years ago that they needed to throw off the ethnic 'badges' to broaden their appeal. But yeah, keep on blaming Lowy , the Crawford report and the FFA. And by the way regards that photo. If you didn't know that was Arnold you'd think that was taken in Croatia not Australia so I fail to see how shooting yourself in the foot proves any sort of point at all. These ethnic "badges" that so offend you where "thrown" off well before Lowy and even the Crawford report, but if words like inclusion and community are inanities to you well OK then, nothing much I can say to dissuade you. There are 11 franchises in Australia you can throw your support behind without worrying about being around too many of one type of Australian... its your choice thats my point, as it is our choice to congregate in whatever number we want and celebrate this wonderful multicultural country we call home. You see a flag that offends you in the photo, I see a child of a migrant Maltese family being carried on the shoulders of a crowd of Croatian Australians. I said 'inanities' not because I don't believe in them but because, in this context, the words used are nothing more than trying to put lipstick on a pig. And. Nothing in that photo or what badges teams choose to wear offends me. You have completely missed the point. OK If I have I apologise but what IS the point you are trying to make? I took it to mean that former NSL clubs who where founded by migrant communities dont have the capacity and more importantly dont want to appeal to the broader public... Is this NOT what you are implying?
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Interesting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh:
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+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: Bullshit. It’s been on every news report time and time again since yesterday. Right now “The Project” is making a meal of it.
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+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: Bullshit. It’s been on every news report time and time again since yesterday. Right now “The Project” is making a meal of it. I meant on this site Paul, not the Australian media.
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+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans.
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+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days.
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+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. +xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: PIFA mate, Australian soccer fans are unique remember. Manchester = Glazers out, give us back our club and f#ck off back to US we've had enough with your closed tier, money making bullshit . Australia = ummm can you guys please buy one of our clubs, any club, before the league collapses.. its ok if you wanna relocate, we don't have members just customers...
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+x+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. +xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: PIFA mate, Australian soccer fans are unique remember. Manchester = Glazers out, give us back our club and f#ck off back to US we've had enough with your closed tier, money making bullshit . Australia = ummm can you guys please buy one of our clubs, any club, before the league collapses.. its ok if you wanna relocate, we don't have members just customers... Once again peddling a false narrative about A-League fans that has been pointed out to you isn't true.
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+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. Random articles? The ones that usually have 0 comments, and if do they have a comment its usually along the lines of "wrong forum" or "Australian football you idiot".
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+x+x+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. +xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: PIFA mate, Australian soccer fans are unique remember. Manchester = Glazers out, give us back our club and f#ck off back to US we've had enough with your closed tier, money making bullshit . Australia = ummm can you guys please buy one of our clubs, any club, before the league collapses.. its ok if you wanna relocate, we don't have members just customers... Once again peddling a false narrative about A-League fans that has been pointed out to you isn't true. It's always about him & his poor little club.
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+x+x+xWho'd have thought that football violence was so complicated? :w00t::laugh::hehe: Football violence is football violence no matter how you look at it. only in australia do we complicate it pending who's involved. here we have two clubs from the NPL in a fight, and somehow the queen is involved for roman saluting in the 1930's lol. let's see if there is any problems in the AL derby this weekend and i'm sure if there is, it's only 1 or 2 bad eggs. lol Agree with this. It doesn't matter who is involved or where they come from. Violence can't be accepted. What's your stance on Nazi salutes and nationalistic views being chanted at a local ground in Australia? Agree, disagree? nothing wrong with patriotism, and most if not all chants are about the football club. Our club was formed as Sydney Croatia, and fan's still call it Croatia, and it will forever be Croatia. In saying that it's an inclusive club. Go ask Glen Trifiro what he thinks of Sydney Croatia, or Graham Arnold... they've embraced the club and the people within it.
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+x+x+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. +xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: PIFA mate, Australian soccer fans are unique remember. Manchester = Glazers out, give us back our club and f#ck off back to US we've had enough with your closed tier, money making bullshit . Australia = ummm can you guys please buy one of our clubs, any club, before the league collapses.. its ok if you wanna relocate, we don't have members just customers... Once again peddling a false narrative about A-League fans that has been pointed out to you isn't true. https://forum.insidesport.com.au/2959242/Manchester-United-looking-to-buy-the-mariners-and-move-them-to-Sydney?PageIndex=1Judging by the comments on the above thread, I would say my "false narrative" is at least 50% true... but you go ahead and believe the "coasties" will stage protests if the Glazers buy their club... let alone the rest of the plastics....
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+x+x+x+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. +xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: PIFA mate, Australian soccer fans are unique remember. Manchester = Glazers out, give us back our club and f#ck off back to US we've had enough with your closed tier, money making bullshit . Australia = ummm can you guys please buy one of our clubs, any club, before the league collapses.. its ok if you wanna relocate, we don't have members just customers... Once again peddling a false narrative about A-League fans that has been pointed out to you isn't true. It's always about him & his poor little club. No this has actually NOTHING to do with South Melbourne Hellas ..... but what was that said above about "false narratives"?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. +xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: PIFA mate, Australian soccer fans are unique remember. Manchester = Glazers out, give us back our club and f#ck off back to US we've had enough with your closed tier, money making bullshit . Australia = ummm can you guys please buy one of our clubs, any club, before the league collapses.. its ok if you wanna relocate, we don't have members just customers... Once again peddling a false narrative about A-League fans that has been pointed out to you isn't true. https://forum.insidesport.com.au/2959242/Manchester-United-looking-to-buy-the-mariners-and-move-them-to-Sydney?PageIndex=1Judging by the comments on the above thread, I would say my "false narrative" is at least 50% true... but you go ahead and believe the "coasties" will stage protests if the Glazers buy their club... let alone the rest of the plastics.... Lol this is hilarious. Even you admit you're 50% wrong. Still won't stop you derailing the next thread though will it?
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+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: Bullshit. It’s been on every news report time and time again since yesterday. Right now “The Project” is making a meal of it. I meant on this site Paul, not the Australian media. I got your train of thought PIFA, on the base's of supporter behaviour, seems no interest to dicuss being its not "unique" to Australia. Anyway no matter, water under the bridge already.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: It's almost as if this is an Australian football forum where we talk about things relating to Australian football teams, players and fans. Yet we have random Inside Sport articles in the Australian forum about Sergio Aguero, and various other non-Australian football topics every few days. +xInteresting that Manchester United fans stormed Old Trafford in the lead-up to the game to Liverpool, causing the fixture to be postponed, as well as the riot police called in. And we've had... not a peep on here about it :laugh: wonder what the narrative would be if that happened here and it caused an A-League game to be postponed :laugh: PIFA mate, Australian soccer fans are unique remember. Manchester = Glazers out, give us back our club and f#ck off back to US we've had enough with your closed tier, money making bullshit . Australia = ummm can you guys please buy one of our clubs, any club, before the league collapses.. its ok if you wanna relocate, we don't have members just customers... Once again peddling a false narrative about A-League fans that has been pointed out to you isn't true. https://forum.insidesport.com.au/2959242/Manchester-United-looking-to-buy-the-mariners-and-move-them-to-Sydney?PageIndex=1Judging by the comments on the above thread, I would say my "false narrative" is at least 50% true... but you go ahead and believe the "coasties" will stage protests if the Glazers buy their club... let alone the rest of the plastics.... Lol this is hilarious. Even you admit you're 50% wrong. Still won't stop you derailing the next thread though will it? I admit I am only 50% correct regarding Aleaguers thoughts yet you claiming Im peddling a false narrative for 100% of people on this site is whats hilarious..... This thread is a derailment of moral decency and multiculturalism in our society and Ill keep derailing it for as long as I read the opinions of racist bogans.....
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I'm hearing that someone from the Rockdale side pissed in the water bottle of the Sydney United keeper.
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+xI'm hearing that someone from the Rockdale side pissed in the water bottle of the Sydney United keeper. Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time that's happened. Happened to Thomas Manos around 4 or 5 years ago.
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+x+xI'm hearing that someone from the Rockdale side pissed in the water bottle of the Sydney United keeper. Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time that's happened. Happened to Thomas Manos around 4 or 5 years ago. WTF do you guys get up to up there in Sydney? Hahahahah that's farked up.
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