It's a real kick in the guts to be worse than what we were last year. That is the real problem for me.

I think Barrett has the right idea on how to play footy but the recruits have been flops and the existing players just cant change their ways - it's a real shock and disappointment at the same time.

We had some key acquisitions and really should be no worse than the Broncos this year - yet we are, both in ladder position and in the way we play.

I see an article on smh about that Kiwi All Blacks coach Hansen and him finally coming to Oz after numerous Zoom calls to the team and Barrett. 

I told Zef his appointment didnt fill me with any confidence so mark him down as another flop. Him bring here in person wont change shit - especially since he could have come weeks ago when the travel bubble opened yet he comes now to watch his racehorse.

We have made further acquisitions for next year which should have put us in the mix for top 8 but given the way this season has panned out, I think Barrett will have his work cut out. 

Come mid next year if the results arent favourable, he'll be under pressure. 

The worst part of this season was that the admin of the club led us too believe we would have a better season. So much talk about new signings and new coach and all the different ways the club believed they would improve. It’s been a huge failure. And what’s worse it doesn’t look to be improving anytime soon 

There are other forums that are spruiking to buy this player or that player even at overs if we have to... That's exactly what got us into this mess in the first place. Some people are not real supporters at all.

You do know ODF…. That other forum/kennel has Dman posting under the alias of Nasheed 

You do know ODF…. That other forum/kennel has Dman posting under the alias of Nasheed 

F%#k….. G Sutton will be the ref for Monday’s game vs Dragons

WTF….. T Baz brings back S Katoa to the bench & drops Topine/Deitz

Why?

Dietz is injured.

I am happy JMK is back, but very disappointed S Katoa has been picked.
It seems like he concedes 3 soft tries a game and his attack isn't much better.

Perhaps Baz has the dartboard mounted crooked.

I'm happy with Katoa back.
He makes mistakes, but he also creates opportunities. 

This team needs to create things first and worry about stiffening up the defence later. 

I'd rather we win this game 38-36 rather than 14-12

I'm happy with Katoa back.
He makes mistakes, but he also creates opportunities. 

This team needs to create things first and worry about stiffening up the defence later. 

I'd rather we win this game 38-36 rather than 14-12

Doc…. I think you’ve jabbed yourself with some dodgy batch of the Pfizer vaccine 

Katoa is rubbish… the only positive is we’ll see the back of him in a couple of months

I just feel that we need to fill this team with as many unpredictable players as we can and build a reputation of being a team you cannot coach against.

For years now we have been the most predictable team the game has ever seen. If we had 100 tackle sets, we'd do 99 one out hit ups just so we can get to our last tackle kick. 

I honestly think we need to become a razzle dazzle team that can routinely score 6 or 7 tries per game and from anywhere on the field. We can then focus on defence. 

Trying to slowly change the way this team plays has proven to be unsuccessful, and Baz is running out of time. By end of next year, the knives will be out unless people can see hope for 2023. 

We have a team full of unpredictable players…. Led by Napa, Tathra’s finest Idiot, Floppa, Katoa, DWZ, Stimpson

Each of the above have won the Benny Hill player of the week award this year

Its all relative Villi.

If the above players make 1 mistake and only 1 good thing that leads to opportunity in every game, they are 50%-50%
Yet even if they double their mistakes, but quadruple the opportunities, they will have 2 mistakes to 4 opportunities and that is 33%-67%

We probably don't need all players to do it. But the key players with most hands on the ball MUST do it. This might be the hookers, the halves and the forwards or centers.

We cannot continue to play this conservative way, with emphasis on keeping to over 90% completions yet not test the opposition. It is a proven failure. Teams are fit and can cover our nothing plays quite easily - even with a man in the bin.

I'd rather we play at 70% completions but create opportunities for a break, a try or to force the opposition into errors (penalties or 6 agains).

So your proposal is to win games by missing tackles, dropping balls and forcing silly low percentage off loads?

That might work if the opposition didn't expect it, but it is exactly what they expect us to do.... I am missing som e key element of this genius plan.

I’m sure Doc has failed his HIA & won’t be back tonight. 

So your proposal is to win games by missing tackles, dropping balls and forcing silly low percentage off loads?

That might work if the opposition didn't expect it, but it is exactly what they expect us to do.... I am missing some key element of this genius plan.

No no no no no no...

No one said anything about midding tackles or dropping balls.

It's about doing more than just 4 one out sit-ups and a kick. It's about double passing in your own end to work the opposition forwards around and force a line speed change in the defence. It's about a chip kick on your own 40m line if the defence is constantly rushing off the mark. It's about offloads at the line, its about decoy or block plays. 

There's a myriad of things they can do which might result in decrease in our completions % but when the hell did that stat alone result in wins? Hardly ever.

Like I said.... I'd take a 70% completion rate if it meant we double our scoring opportunities in a game.

Nothing wrong with playing more footy.

I am talking about players like Katoa who is a hopeless defender, an average passer, in spite of good technical skills, and is a genius at taking the wrong option.

There is every chance he plays a big role in 2-3 opposition tries, a remote chance he sets up a try for us and a good chance he turns over possession with a dumb option 2-3 times.

On the other hand I trust Averillo, Wakeham, Meaney, Jackson, Elliott, Doorey and Thompson to play football becuase they are footballers. I trust Schoupp and Cotric to have impact running the ball and play some football.

Our good players don't get a chance becuase the duds ensure that the opposition always has the ball.

We have a salary cap (or most teams do) and a top 30, so its inevitable that not all players can be stars.  What the coach needs to do is simplify the role of these players and recruit and select these players on their ability to perform a limited role effectively. Don't try to make them do something their capable of. You also need players with the footy smarts to generate the points. In the middle are your competent first graders.

So the big man (All Blacks Coach) will finally arrive here tomorrow… Apparently he’s here for 10 days

Be interesting to read what the outcomes are

Our players take a lot of poor options were they go off script trying for a miracle play.
Some players have better instincts, and make better choices.

Defense wise, the problem is poor technique, poor decision making or just too slow,. or too early.

The coach has to dumb it down for players who are not naturals and give them a strict set of instructions.

After a while I wonder if some of them just don't have what it takes, a coach can only fix so much.

While it seems Bellamy can coach anyone, his has built a strong squad, players who don't perform or don't obey instructions probably don't get many chances.

Coaching is much easier with smart talented players who make good decisions and can think ahead.