Actually thats not true. Dan hasnt fronted every single day even when not injured

The other thing is the press conferences have become a joke. They are about hysterical journos asking embarrassingly stupid questions and then taking subtle jabs at other premiers in unrelated press conferences

Gladys, rightfully so, wants to move away from the hysteria of daily numbers. The situation in NSW isnt going to change. For those who want numbers there will be a daily video giving them. For those who want to know when there will be changes to social movement there will be dedicated conferences

This is just more ammo for "liberal is this" and "labour is that". The kind of shit you never see during national floods or fires and the sole reason why Australia is in the situation it is in

OK, Ill concede the point on "every single day" obviously he wasn't there today and probably a handful of other times too.  You may be far too sophisticated to seek solace in elected leadership of a state re-assuring it's citizens about a health crisis but I can tell you there are a lot of vulnerable people out there who take comfort in knowing "the government" is doing something, even if its the wrong thing and most dont agree with it. Walking away from the scrutiny because it affects the public perception of the party is a massive cop out to me and shows how little they give a f#ck about Burt and Ethel stuck at home, scared for their health, missing their kids and grandkids and wanting to know someone is doing something... anything. Things change come election time though eh?
As for your last point, surprised you forgot our little happy clapping PMs Hawaiian holiday during the last bushfire season?

The biggest health crisis in a century about to get worse, with things changing almost daily, and public info absolutely critical, and the government has nobody to answer questions and be accountable?

Also how does this look as a leader? 

Not to mention the absolute basics of information only being available on a video on NSW health website. Do you know how harder that is going to be to get critical messaging to the masses? Are news networks supposed to play that video? 

Yep, I wouldn't be surprised if people feel deserted. 

NSW have rarely had daily conferences even during outbreaks. That was a Victoria thing remember? Even ACT today said they were going to stop them on weekends soon. Does the virus stop on weekends? As I said, the press conferences have become a joke and cancelling them is a way to shift focus from daily hysteria and shit flinging to whats important. This virus isnt going anywhere, get vaccinated, as more social movement is allowed it will be announced

I'm not labour or liberal. Im not left wing or right wing. I dont view the complexity of human psychology into a binary system of beliefs. Today I have an opinion on one thing, tomorrow I might have an opinion on another. I actually find horoscopes more credible because at least there are 12 of those. If somebody said that this premier is acting this way because they're an asparagus or whatever it would actually be more meaningful

Australia created a binary divide that you simply dont see in NZ during the pandemic. They have managed to get an outbreak of a complex strain under control with a single consistent system, using the time and patience required, only locking down the impacted areas, and not having restrictions a minute longer than required

Meanwhile in Tasmania face masks are now mandatory at events of over 1000 people because there is definitive and conclusive health research that events of over 1000 people when there is deemed a strong risk of an outbreak are safe if everybody makes some kind of attempt to cover their face. In other words, health officials want to use their leverage for long standing face mask laws and thats what they are being given

As Pala said above, life is too short. I dont know how much of your lives you're willing piss away running around in panicked circles over this but at the end of the day its a single strain of flu with a vaccine available. There are much much worse things out there

Man I love how you love to move the goal posts. Man you're pathetic 

To be fair, he was there 120 days in a row when things were at their worst last year.

Thats right which was when he gained his reputation but it wasnt always like that. And as stated, NSW havent historically done that

Dont forget, the job of the premier is to get kids into classrooms, people into work places, trains running on time, people into sport etc... If you have a look at the over 200 days lockdown Victoria have gone through, including those areas that havent had a single case, there hasnt been much running of the state. Thats not admiral just because of daily press conferences. Victoria's last 12-18 months has just been virus KPIs

And in terms of accountability how much has there been? I havent been keeping up with any of the political shit flinging but on the surface of things a lot of pointing fingers and throwing people under the bus. Not once have I seen, read or heard "We messed up. This is what we are going to be doing differently. This is the life balance we are working towards"

Regional Victoria's "opening up" was more of a joke than the initial rights granted to the vaccinated in NSW. How long are Victoria going to stay in lockdown with masks over this thing? Imagine selling 3 or 5 years of a "too short" life just to say that you didnt get COVID. Thats not living

Most of your points here are subjective because I don't think you'd accept anything I'd have to say in response.

Going out on a limb here I think this isn't as bad as people are trying to make out. Covid is here, they can't stop it, hurry up and get vaccinated and we can get on with it.

My mate sent me something about Singapore and how they're having a resurgence in cases as an up yours to me who's saying let's open up. To me it just shows that if Singapore can't make it work and contain then we definitely can't so let's get everyone who wants to and can be vaccinated and open 'er up.

Fucks sake.

Thats not true. I accept any well thought out view point. I just dont always agree with them. There's a difference. You can be sure that I do read them and you can be sure that if I have any sense I am wrong or misinformed I'll change my mind. Thats the advantage of being somebody who doesnt have a predefined single view point that aligns with one of two binary templates

The only view point I dont accept is that wanker that follows me from thread to thread criticising me for having an opinion. I just hope he proof reads his own posts that way he can get a second read because I sure as hell dont take any notice

Hahaha. Nice one.

I already laid out possible solutions. You want to be paternalistic and condescending and blame the gub'ment. Fair enough.

Listening to Ken Wyatt on RN today talking about how the local elders and, bizzarely, the church (because they're listening to an American Christian crank spruiking Invermectim), need to get more involved to combat misinformation only confirmed what I said the other day.


Cool fact of the day. An investigation into Covid misinformation found that just 12 people are responsible for 65% of it. Amazing.  
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996570855/disinformation-dozen-test-facebooks-twitters-ability-to-curb-vaccine-hoaxes

   

I don't mind Glady's saying that they're moving away from daily press conferences, but they could have switched to weekly ones or better yet, just have Hazzard and Bruz field most of them and Glady's can come in once a week. Share the workload.

The timing is also horrid. "Our modelling shows numbers peaking next week until some time in October but I'm not going to rock up anymore". Perhaps stay for that duration and move on when it's trending down? 

National institute of health is now researching the affect of vaccine on menstrual cycle, 
Blimey wasn't this another conspiracy theory a few months ago

here is the refernce from USA NIH webby
https://www.nichd.nih.gov/newsroom/news/083021-COVID-19-vaccination-menstruation

UK to dispose of 800,000 doses of jab due to low take up , slot of care workers and health workers don't want jab

here is the link from main stream media

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/800000-expired-astrazeneca-vaccines-uk-set-bin/

UK to throw 800,000 AstraZeneca doses in the bin after take-up falls

paper even gets cash from bill gates

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2017/11/opp1179441

      Committed Amount       $3,446,801    

Hope this post passes the criteria to remain up

from a very reputable source been publishing science information and research since 1860 (obvious hard copy before internet)

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1

Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise.

another reliabke souce , who it passes the Aussie self censors

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/06/23/ivermectinwidely-used-to-treat-covid-19-despite-being-unprovenis-being-studied-in-the-uk-as-a-potential-treatment/?sh=7890b8fd6b30

OPLINE

 The University of Oxford announced Wednesday it is investigating antiparasitic drug ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid-19, a trial that could finally resolve questions over the controversial medicine which has been widely promoted around the world despite warnings from regulators and a lack of data supporting its use. 
Ivermectin will be assessed as part of the U.K. government-backed Principle study, which assesses non-hospital treatments against Covid-19 and is a large-scale randomized control trial widely considered the “gold standard” in evaluating a medicine’s effectiveness. While studies have shown ivermectin to inhibit virus replication in a lab, studies in people have been more limited and have not conclusively demonstrated the drug’s effectiveness or safety for the purpose of treating Covid-19.

well well well, who would adam and eve it.
The lefties at the guardianista have the myocarditis for boys 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study

Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study

US researchers say teenagers are more likely to get vaccine-related myocarditis than end up in hospital with Covid

So take Astrazeneca.

All the more reason to get vaccinated.

100%.  Who actually listens to those pressers anyway. It's the same questions every day by the same people. I'm sure Gladys, Hazzard and the health CMO have better things to do, like deal with outbreak, rather than mouth the same platitudes day in day out.

That would be a perfectly reasonable solution, even more lower-down officials than that would even be fine too I reckon for the day-to-day stuff.

I don't really bother watching but I do follow up on it later in the day. Only tune in from time to time (maybe once or twice a month), but I think its important for the leadership to front up to the public. At the very least, face the people you're keeping locked down. It just doesn't tie up well with all their messaging about "it's going to be a critical two months" and then say, it's not that critical for me though, I have better things to do. 

Gladys, Hazzard, Bruz and Chant aren't there everyday anyway. Just have a rotation amongst the group so they do 1 or 2 days a week until we're trending down. 

The ivermectin issue is interesting. I made a joke about it earlier being called "horse dewormer" but it actually has general medical use for human consumption. I think it is mainly for treating parasitic infestations but has limited effectiveness against coronaviruses. This is why it is worth further investigation. 

Inveermectin  is used in humans yes. But people are using the animal version which has side effects as the doses wildy differ. Hence why you go see your gp for it and don't use it for covid

It hasn't been proven by quality peer reviewed research at this stage. The Oxford study may change that. 

Of course that doesn't stop anti-vaxxers making out like it's a miracle cure. 

If I said that I can't agree that virus KPIs have been the sole thing that the Victorian government have been doing all this time and point to something like the Melbourne Metro tunnelling being recently completed I still think you'll stick to your guns on that point.

If I also point out that there has been an independent inquest into the Victorian government and the health minister resigned, I think you might reject that as sufficient accountability, even though it far exceeds anything that any other state or the federal government have been subjected to. 

Nobody's saying that Indigenous community leaders shouldn't be combatting misinformation, although you seem to be implying that none of them are doing that. In fact, in some cases they're leading the way: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-29/the-race-to-vaccinate-as-covid19-spreads-across-western-nsw/100415470 

I think it's better to try and live life with a bit more compassion, you might find that healthier than punching down on people such as "my mob".

Speaking of which, it's good to see we're actually doing quite well in Victoria in this area: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/indigenous-victorian-vaccination-success/100332844 and https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/the-moment-you-walk-in-through-those-doors-your-healing-starts-victoria-leading-the-race-on-indigenous-vaccination-20210824-p58lg6.html

Thats right. I'm not going to praise the Victorian government who have been in lockdown for what may well end up being 250 days out of 1 1/2 years just because they dug a tunnel. Nor am I going to define accountability as everybody going except for the people making the decisions and making the mistakes. That inquest was a joke at best

I dont give two shits about politics and I can honestly say I wouldnt have been able to name a single premier before this pandemic. But now they're all front and center and its easy to see which ones are the leaders and which ones are the typical pollys (all promise and no delivery)

Victoria's response has been a 100% health response and shows why a CHO will never (and should never) be elected premier. If I had to guess I would say 10%-15% of kids across the state wouldnt have a supportive work from home environment yet the stat for those who were allowed to go to school was 3%, the lowest in the country and results in a $200m education bail out. Not to mention the money being thrown at mental health issues and social housing created by the pandemic. Also expect us to be last at sport for at least a generation

NSW IMO opinion has had the best leadership and best balance. Its just a shame they changed their strategy for the latest outbreak because if they stuck to their guns there is no doubt in my mind it would have panned out like the NZ outbreak

Yup. People should be talking to their GP. It's just interesting that MSNBC etc have quickly labelled it horse dewormer and demonised it all. It just reinforces this idea of conspiracy.

Isn't it better to simply say: this is a drug used for other purposes. There are ongoing clinical trial and the best option now is to get vaccinated. There are also other known treatment options if you do get COVID.