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A protestor has covid.  Presented to a hospital but isn't in icu
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Sep 2021 5:20 PM
A protestor has covid.  Presented to a hospital but isn't in icu

Wrong thread mate.

 Needs to go in 'what floats ya boat'

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sydneyfc1987 - 23 Sep 2021 7:23 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Sep 2021 5:20 PM

Wrong thread mate.

 Needs to go in 'what floats ya boat'

Touche😂😂
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sydneyfc1987 - 23 Sep 2021 7:23 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Sep 2021 5:20 PM

Wrong thread mate.

 Needs to go in 'what floats ya boat'

lololol
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Sep 2021 5:20 PM
A protestor has covid.  Presented to a hospital but isn't in icu

I'm pissed off because I was hoping that Sydney would be the worst of it and that's it. Now Melbourne is primed to overtake us again. Then the State v State crap will start up again with Glady's gloating about 'first class' management, notwithstanding our Government's own shortcomings. 
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Burz what goes around comes around as they say, not that I like to see the State wars but thank the media and Prems.
In the good times pre covid it carried on forever and a day but their error is carrying on with it in grave times and hasn't helped one bit as we've seen but caused alot of angst for all.
Alot more to come I expect as we open up imo, infection increase and deaths how are they gonna play that out and how are people gonna react.



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Burztur - 24 Sep 2021 9:09 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Sep 2021 5:20 PM

I'm pissed off because I was hoping that Sydney would be the worst of it and that's it. Now Melbourne is primed to overtake us again. Then the State v State crap will start up again with Glady's gloating about 'first class' management, notwithstanding our Government's own shortcomings. 

Yeah I'm over it, caught the numbers on ABC earlier they were essentially saying Melbourne is 6 weeks behind Sydney and at the same time Sydney were around 500 cases but Melbourne is up over 700.

They had a breakdown of the LGAs numbers in Melbourne,  Hume should be completely shut down,  they had 1/3 of the numbers,  it's mad they can let it go like that. 
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paladisious - 21 Sep 2021 5:16 PM
10 of NSW's 128 LGAs pass the 90% mark for first doses for 15+, 66 with 80% or more.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/vaccinations-by-lga/nsw

That's all well & good however I'm personally concerned of the pressure on the hospital system in NSW.  It's being very much played down however hospitalisations are on an upward trend & the amount of deaths in the past two weeks reflects that.   



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Now they're talking about bringing international students back in Mr Haddock may well get his wish for Chinese vaccines to be approved.

If not administered here then recognised as ok for others to have.


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ErogenousZone - 24 Sep 2021 4:49 PM
paladisious - 21 Sep 2021 5:16 PM

That's all well & good however I'm personally concerned of the pressure on the hospital system in NSW.  It's being very much played down however hospitalisations are on an upward trend & the amount of deaths in the past two weeks reflects that.   



ICU cases are trending down. We may have peaked last week. Given that there is no more rise, we might be alright. 

While there is a lot of good news going around, I hope people still remain diligent afterwards - social distancing, etc when things open up again. 
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Munrubenmuz - 25 Sep 2021 1:25 PM
Now they're talking about bringing international students back in Mr Haddock may well get his wish for Chinese vaccines to be approved.

If not administered here then recognised as ok for others to have.

It was the Chinese Vaccine that created all the drama surrounding the Nicki Minaj claims.
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The news is a couple of days old now, but just saw that covid has surpassed the Spanish Flu as the deadliest pandemic in US history.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/more-americans-have-died-from-covid-19-than-1918-flu-pandemic/100480600

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100% a lot Gladys’ promises over the last month will now change. 
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A 2nd rioter has covid.  Noone thinks he got it at the riots but probably had it before hand. 
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COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy plunges to record low, poll finds
David Crowe
By David Crowe
September 25, 2021

Vaccine fears have plunged to a record low in a strong sign of support for the national plan to ease lockdowns, with only 9 per cent of Australians objecting to the jabs compared to 29 per cent in the early phase of the rollout.

The findings suggest the country could achieve a 90 per cent vaccine target across the adult population as the federal government promises more supplies of Pfizer and Moderna doses over the next three months.

The Resolve Political Monitor, conducted exclusively for The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age by research company Resolve Strategic, finds only 4 per cent of people say they are “not very likely” and 5 per cent say they are “not at all likely” to be vaccinated.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-plunges-to-record-low-poll-finds-20210923-p58uc6.html

More in the article, including that only 10% of those polled think lockdowns should end right away before vaccine targets are met.
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paladisious - 26 Sep 2021 9:07 PM
COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy plunges to record low, poll finds
David Crowe
By David Crowe
September 25, 2021

Vaccine fears have plunged to a record low in a strong sign of support for the national plan to ease lockdowns, with only 9 per cent of Australians objecting to the jabs compared to 29 per cent in the early phase of the rollout.

The findings suggest the country could achieve a 90 per cent vaccine target across the adult population as the federal government promises more supplies of Pfizer and Moderna doses over the next three months.

The Resolve Political Monitor, conducted exclusively for The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age by research company Resolve Strategic, finds only 4 per cent of people say they are “not very likely” and 5 per cent say they are “not at all likely” to be vaccinated.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-plunges-to-record-low-poll-finds-20210923-p58uc6.html

More in the article, including that only 10% of those polled think lockdowns should end right away before vaccine targets are met.

Stockholm Syndrome for us down here in Melbourne perhaps??????
FFF I was watching the AFL grand final on Saturday and despite not really having gone to so many games I was sooooooo envious of what it would be like being at a ground, with a crowd and a beer again..... 

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MSC, I had that withdrawal since watching the Euros, bugga the recent afl.
Though I know you guys down there have suffered way longer than us in Sydney, at least prior to our lockdown we got to play half the season and watch games.
Touch wood we'll be back to community sport end of Oct ??? big question mark on that for now.

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tsf - 26 Sep 2021 12:23 PM
100% a lot Gladys’ promises over the last month will now change. 

Yup. Stage 3 introduced today (forecast December) where essentially it ends when 90% double vaxx is reached. From that point no masks indoors and night clubs open up

In terms of the most promises offered NSW are the furthest in front, but in terms of when they will be given, this is constantly being changed by health officials who simply dont want to open up

This is going to have to be one of those "only believe it when it happens moments". I have zero faith or confidence Victoria will align with the national cabinet, and states that do will add extra conditions or restrictions which makes their transition moot

Either way, NSW is the place to be right now
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LFC. - 27 Sep 2021 10:05 AM
MSC, I had that withdrawal since watching the Euros, bugga the recent afl.
Though I know you guys down there have suffered way longer than us in Sydney, at least prior to our lockdown we got to play half the season and watch games.
Touch wood we'll be back to community sport end of Oct ??? big question mark on that for now.

Hope all you here are doing ok.

Hey LFC, yeah I know watching the Euros and the EPL recently had me really jealous but for some reason the game in Perth (maybe because it was closer to home?) got to me.
Yes yes I know you hate AFL he he he.
South Pres was on radio last night addressing the whole WU bullshit but good news is that our boys are back training tonight and even though NPL season has officially been declared over, they are moving ahead with remainder of FFA matches so looking forward to hitting the terraces in late Oct :).
If by some miracle of miracles we get through to next round and vs Sydney Im coming up or your coming down... beers and Sambuca AND Ouzo on me :)
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Lots of LGAs getting into the 90th percentile for adult first doses, and a fair few even 95+ (which seems to be where they stop counting) in NSW, Victoria and even WA.

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/09/covid-19-vaccination-local-government-area-lga-27-september-2021.pdf

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paladisious - 27 Sep 2021 6:44 PM
Lots of LGAs getting into the 90th percentile for adult first doses, and a fair few even 95+ (which seems to be where they stop counting) in NSW, Victoria and even WA.

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/09/covid-19-vaccination-local-government-area-lga-27-september-2021.pdf

Jesus. A quick glance at SAs tells you all you need to know. I could have guessed the results to be honest.

The richest areas: 78-82%
The poorest areas: 50-57%

It makes me really sad
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Davide82 - 28 Sep 2021 11:43 AM
paladisious - 27 Sep 2021 6:44 PM

Jesus. A quick glance at SAs tells you all you need to know. I could have guessed the results to be honest.

The richest areas: 78-82%
The poorest areas: 50-57%

It makes me really sad

I agree, but and ok this is going to sound really harsh (and it's blatantly clear that people are massively disadvantaged in our society) but a look at the crowds at the anti-vaccine protests, you do not see a lot of highly successful people or winners there. It's a generalisation but appears rather true that the motivated/smart people are getting in done as soon as possible and moving on and a lot of duds are making themselves seem important or smarter than everyone else. 
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tsf - 28 Sep 2021 12:15 PM
Davide82 - 28 Sep 2021 11:43 AM

I agree, but and ok this is going to sound really harsh (and it's blatantly clear that people are massively disadvantaged in our society) but a look at the crowds at the anti-vaccine protests, you do not see a lot of highly successful people or winners there. It's a generalisation but appears rather true that the motivated/smart people are getting in done as soon as possible and moving on and a lot of duds are making themselves seem important or smarter than everyone else. 

Yes.




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tsf - 28 Sep 2021 12:15 PM
Davide82 - 28 Sep 2021 11:43 AM

I agree, but and ok this is going to sound really harsh (and it's blatantly clear that people are massively disadvantaged in our society) but a look at the crowds at the anti-vaccine protests, you do not see a lot of highly successful people or winners there. It's a generalisation but appears rather true that the motivated/smart people are getting in done as soon as possible and moving on and a lot of duds are making themselves seem important or smarter than everyone else. 

The lockdowns are impacting poorer people more than the rich. The rich have savings, more likely to work from home, have larger properties, can afford takeaway/delivery, etc
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tsf - 28 Sep 2021 12:15 PM
Davide82 - 28 Sep 2021 11:43 AM

I agree, but and ok this is going to sound really harsh (and it's blatantly clear that people are massively disadvantaged in our society) but a look at the crowds at the anti-vaccine protests, you do not see a lot of highly successful people or winners there. It's a generalisation but appears rather true that the motivated/smart people are getting in done as soon as possible and moving on and a lot of duds are making themselves seem important or smarter than everyone else. 

I mean I totally agree with that, don't think that it's that controversial. 

The uneducated find dodgy easy answers to hard questions and very much often have a chip on their shoulder for their lot in life.

I don't think the motivation of the 1,000 protestors lines up exactly with all 100,000 (or whatever) un-vaxed in our northern suburbs (poor areas).

Lack of education early in life filters all the way down through your life.

There is also often a general distrust of doctors/health professionals or anyone who they perceive as looking down on them/judging them. 

Access to services is another factor I'm sure ie. having to get 2 busses with 5 kids (yeah yeah their choice) isn't as easy as me getting the afternoon off work to drive down the street.


Any way you slice it, to me, its a sad situation we find ourselves in as a society where i can guess the suburbs based purely on wealth so so easily

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Davide82 - 28 Sep 2021 2:17 PM
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I mean I totally agree with that, don't think that it's that controversial. 

The uneducated find dodgy easy answers to hard questions and very much often have a chip on their shoulder for their lot in life.

I don't think the motivation of the 1,000 protestors lines up exactly with all 100,000 (or whatever) un-vaxed in our northern suburbs (poor areas).

Lack of education early in life filters all the way down through your life.

There is also often a general distrust of doctors/health professionals or anyone who they perceive as looking down on them/judging them. 

Access to services is another factor I'm sure ie. having to get 2 busses with 5 kids (yeah yeah their choice) isn't as easy as me getting the afternoon off work to drive down the street.


Any way you slice it, to me, its a sad situation we find ourselves in as a society where i can guess the suburbs based purely on wealth so so easily

yeah agree with all that 
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Burztur - 28 Sep 2021 2:05 PM
tsf - 28 Sep 2021 12:15 PM

The lockdowns are impacting poorer people more than the rich. The rich have savings, more likely to work from home, have larger properties, can afford takeaway/delivery, etc

That's def true. 

They don't often have the chance to isolate etc and live weekly in regards to $.
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Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think there is any data to suggest poor people / cities dont have the same level of access to the vaccine as rich people, nor do they have a different level of access to the education and campaigns

Any discrepancy comes back to "choice" which is what I was saying earlier in the week about the complexity of vaccine uptake

Some people, particularly those who have lost their job, house, family, friends, impaired education, supported networks etc..., just dont show the same level of care about this single strain of flu the way rich people might. Nor do they support this idea of "all being in it together" by people who will be the first to abandon their needs when this "ends"

No surprise the three cities leading the vaccine race (ACT, NSW, Vic) are the ones currently in lockdown and are threatening to stay that way until thresholds are met. Australia did not do a good job of selling why people should get the vaccine, and only NSW are trying to sell the notion thats once they do it will be over. Something I sincerely hope they dont back pedal from

Other countries simpy dont have the same problems as Australia are having. "Here's a vaccine. Get it or don't. We're now open guys"
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bluebird2 - 28 Sep 2021 2:30 PM
Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think there is any data to suggest poor people / cities dont have the same level of access to the vaccine as rich people, nor do they have a different level of access to the education and campaigns


Before I even read the rest, when I say education I don't mean they don't have access to the same internet studies we have. 

I'm talking education from the day you're born through to maybe 15 years old.



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