It looks like a depressing season for Roar supporters.☹️

It's not looking great at all. Doesn't help it's another FIFO trip. But front two not doing Ng their job. 3 CB look lost. Freke ball watches and drifts out of position. 

Just not looking good at all.

The warning bells started ringing when we lost to an NPL team just before season start.

Gosh I'm not keen on our chances against au. The we got western United away. Perth on time for Sturridge to start playing most likely then Melbourne City again.

Only game I can remotely see us getting a result is Perth. 

If this continues the crowds will thin out.
thats just human nature.
People won’t be making the trip to Dolphin from the coasts or sth Brisbane if it continues.
im so disappointed, I could look past the NPL loss but this is depressing.

Why wasn't that a penalty?

Arm wasn't away from his body, he was using his arm to protect his face, which is fair enough.

Hey we are last .We’re going to win the spoon.Worst attack and worst defence.
I think Moon has overestimated the quality of NPL players.Maybe thats all the owners could afford.Who knows.But this team looks up there with the most inept of all the teams i have seen.

Hey whats parsons done to be left out of the team?
He had skill ,creativity and goals and a whole bunch of nobodies are ahead of him?

your midfield gave us so much time on the ball

Team is setup to hit teams on counter.  Can't do that 2 nil down at half time away from home. 

Miss gillesphy at the moment and to some extent Aldred.  Both gill and Aldred are strong in the air,  2 goals from corners in two weeks... gillesphy had a decent left foot. Young miln..  unfortunately made a mistake which they punished.  

All is not lost.  If we defend better then goals will come as teams push higher and get tired. Southern teams may struggle in humid qld over Jan.  Akbari has been missing.  Parsons is an x factor (why left out..). Mileusnic maybe better on bench 

Our defence was reminiscent of when Aldred and Gillesphey were just starting to work out their teamwork. We conceded several weak goals in the middle because no-one owned the ball and no-one took responsibility.

I can understand Neville Trewin Milnaric not being as solid as Aldred Trewin Neville - and they either need time together or we need Aldred back before the centre is going to become solid again.

Dehmie still shows potential, but again either we give him time to develop it and accept it is going to take time or we need him back on the bench and Lescano/Ivanovic given the start.

I am not writing Mileusnic off, but unless we use his pace more effectively we have other players who can add more from the start. Ivanovic and Mileusnic both running hard from the start is going to create a lot more pressure than just Mileusnic.

Our attack looked backwards too much tonight tending to back off when we might otherwise have worked towards a shot at least. We were also under quite intense body pressure. Popovic always plays through the body to get the ball and the ref tonight allowed far too many trips,leg swipes and ankle nicks for both teams instead of pulling them up. There was no reason to stop doing it so the play was far more restricted than it should have.

No Parsons is odd - but being so heavily one sided maybe Moon thinks his impact has been reduced with teams knowing that about him.

Victory looked pretty solid in defence, but what a centimetre or two would do to the overall game who knows. 2-1 is much better to come home with than 2-0 becoming 3-0. The Victory attack was not toothless and they combined well. Rojas makes a big difference to the cohesion and quality and he is not as easy to mark out of the game as the old legs of Diamanti by comparison.

Not embarrassing to lose to Victory - and no need to call the season gone already. We ended up looking a bit directionless going forward, but at 3-0 I think that is quite normal in the fashion of stunned mullets.

A bit of a freakish own goal and a couple of players left unmarked and there we are.

Not working properly together and we certainly bowed a bit under the pressure. We are still some games off good form at best. I don't think the pre-season prepared the team for the level needed for competition this season as much as it should have and we are on the backfoot.

One week at a time and watch for improvements...we are better than tonight.

We had two FIFO games ,which presumably anyone coming to Qld will have as well.
So we will see if that was a mitigating factor next weekend or whether we really are shit.Lol

That was a very poor game FIFO or not. way too many errors. I dont think any player put in a performance worthy of keeping there spots, i can not think of one positive to take out of that game. the front 3 were aimless and lethargic not offering any movement or options when trying to play out and were useless in a press. the middle 2 were completely outplayed delaying on the ball and not good enough to break up play. the back 5 were disorganised and couldnt hit a pass out. the keeper ball watched and didnt stand up for himself telling the defence where to be. 

Dehmie is no where near aleague quality yet and playing him from the start is not going to develop him when he just gets marked out of the game by fresh defenders. i thought maybe our attack would be overall better than last season but so far lescano/ivanovic look similar quality to DWH, and dehmie is a huge step down. akbari is a huge step down from danzaki and melusenic is at best equally useless as champness and at worse invisible. our midfield 2 might be slightly improved by steinman but our defence has all the errors that come with playing 20 year olds, and to top it all off we dont have young in goal to bail them out. 

moon has a lot of work to do.  he said he will live or die by the squad he assembled, so far it doesn't look promising. I dont think Adelaide will have to FIFO  as they are not a hotspot so no advantage there, we may still have to fifo for the western game but from then on qld will be open so no more FIFO. 

I feel like I said something last season, but was told that things were fine. 

I think we are playing as though our opponents are NPL clubs still. We dallied on the ball as though we had all the time in the world and had our pockets pinched time and again - without waking up to the need for greater speed in both thought and ball movement.

That much at least can be quickly remedied.

I would prefer Dehmie to come off the bench as an impact player - which will hurt him given we have other impact players who should rotate with him for that opportunity.

Akbari is still not physically up to a hard body press game yet. He got a bit bullied and without the 'missed the ball and got the player' being pulled up he could not hold his space against stronger opponents.

We woke up for periods of the game and they are the ones I can see in a positive light. We did have some good fluid football for short periods. Shame was, when we were challenged we tended to go right back to the CBs instead of looking to maintain pressure. We know our attack does not have to be so directionless based on the good parts of last week against City when we chose to play football.

I was also confused by the way we only went up the left in the first half. We put the ball back from Corey through the CBs and far too often the ball just went back to him. Was Moon trying to play in the shade? Was he protecting Hingert's shoulder still? Victory did tend to rush Hingert's side whenever we looked to be going that way but that is no reason to only play one side of the field.

Another positive is that we did not concede in the first 20 minutes. In my books that is always a good start to a game...

Last season things were fine - on balance, just we needed to convert the chances we were creating to have been a major force in the competition.

Losing Danzaki, DWH, Gillesphey, Young, and even to some extent Champness makes comparisons of last season a little misdirected. We are just not the same team. Having Aldred out injured when he may be slower but still commands the centre of the box hurts our defensive structure on top of losing Gillesphey and Young. 

In fact, to my eyes we are playing like we are not a team at the moment. I still don't know if we can get it together as well as we did last year, but as always I am confident that we are nowhere near playing at our best.

Last year felt like we were just going through the motion a bit. 

It's been known for some time that the club is struggling, whether that be the owners or our ability to remain competitive on and off the field. 
However, not much has changed to fix that, and the football we played last season was a symptom of all that. We never really converted chances because we never really had the mentality to. When you play holding football, your attackers don't get themselves into finishing positions quick enough, which is why chances go begging, or don't get buried. 

Yes, losing players does not help. But that is where you need to be prepared to have plans to cover and replace them. I'm pretty sure the same excuse was being used last season for having players out injured. We are not going in the right direction, and it requires some change all around the club. 

We ended the season on a bit of a slide. From having points in the bank we watched our position weaken as we struggled to find the form that we had demonstrated earlier.

And yes - we did not cover our succession planning well - having too many borrowed players put us at the whim of other clubs too much and we are paying for that now.

I just think we still have the players to do so much better than we are at the moment and I am pinning my strong hopes on them coming together again. Moon has shown enough in my eyes to prove he can get a team playing better than the individuals.

Agree with all of this, performance was bad all round the pitch yesterday from the starting line up (there were some positives form the subs but none of them really changed the game). If we only play like that once this year, then fine we had an off day and got pasted for it, but it cannot happen again and it is on the coaching staff to figure what happened and make the appropriate changes. 

There is a good team in our squad, we showed that against City last week, but we aren't going to find it by making excuses for bad performances.

????? I’m not aware of any league anywhere where you get any points for keeping the opposition scoreless for the first 20 minutes. Or is your comment meant to be a joke?

Disagree re Akbari - I reckon he's been right up there with our best. Parsons should be on the bench at least, he was great last season for us. Ivanovic should be starting 

In our bad defensive seasons, we frequently conceded goals in the first 20 minutes.

I have a personal threshhold every game where we first have to get past 20 minutes with a clean sheet before I feel like we might be solid that game.

Not a joke, but certainly not a result or outcome to hang anything on.

I look moon I hope he survives this season. His very keen to play youth 

The Bulls just bought a new CB with EPL experience.They really have such quality across the park.
Roar are really a budget side in comparison.
I am seriously worried we could be cannon fodder this season after the first two games.That defence is woeful.
AU with Goodwin finding form will be a tough game and it doesnt get easier with a FIFo game in Melbourne and a fit Sturridge and MC  back home.

Quality but no supporters 

How is the weather in redcliffe? Pitch was pretty bad last year with rain like this.  Hope we ve learnt from those games.  

Ivanovic may not have started as he's coming back from an injury.  Lescano and aldred might be best rested for a water logged pitch. 

Absolutely agree with that comment but I don’t see a real quality player that will give us bite in front third as yet to make the most of these young players. 

Thats the problem upfront.Someone has to have the ability to create an opportunity,Then you have the fact you have three new players up front so  they dont have understanding between them .Then two of them are inexperienced.(Assuming no Lescano)
Akbari pushed forward  against A- League players is not the same as against NPL players.
JOS feeding the ball to new players who dont know where to run.
Its not a pretty picture,when u add in the defensive frailities.
Maybe in time they will improve.But its pretty hard to do that unless there are other weak teams in a similar situation to play against.Like a NJ’s.But they actually look good.
Anyway this weekend will tell if the first two weeks were a hiccup or a major problem.

I have always held that we don't necessarily see how teams are all shaping up until after about 5 games each season. There will always be bolters and stumblers at the start.

I have no doubt we have not found our feet - but I don't know if we can find them within the context of a competitive season.

This weekend will be interesting.

Got my eTickets emailed today so we can get into the game even if our passes have not turned up yet.