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+x+x+xAfter seeing tonight's game, I'm just sick to death of watching Matt Leckie miss so many goals ( about 100), after 10 years of watching him play international football as a striker or winger. If both Arnie and Ange, think he is worthy of a place in the attacking trio, he just hasn't got enough composure in finishing and penalty box craft. Matt's miss after miss after miss, constantly puts the team under pressure - if - as in today's game, too many chances fall his way. Credit to him getting into good positions, but one has to convert! Thank goodness Muelensteen replaced him with Goodwin. The AU winger, who was barely on the pitch for a few minutes, scored a fantastic, deft, well-taken, clinical strike, that was a game changer! I'm sorry, but Matt is incapable of scoring that sort of goal. Goodwin did in a few minutes on the pitch, what Matt has not been able to do, even once, in 10 years of Socceroo tenure! We will struggle to get to the World Cup if our best options are Leckie, and even Jackson Irvine. At least Jackson has game sense, but was culpable for Rogic's disallowed goal. In a midfield trio off Rogic, Mooy and himself, he is the best at tracking back. Nevertheless, we need players with quicker feet, faster handling speed, able to turn in tighter places, and to be able to play rapidfire pass and move football, like Mooy, Milligan, Grella, Culina. What I can't get over, is that Aus preferred to play down Leckie's innocuous left flank, than Boyle's more potent right flank, with the latter a far more potent threat around goal. Maclaren's goal was well taken, and, he played some deft lay offs to other forwards. Rogic was brilliant and should have had 2 goals, not 1. Still though the attacking trio, of Leckie, Boyle and Maclaren, plus Rogic in a support role at number 10, with Irvine supporting attacks, plus Karacic and King overlapping, it malfunctioned as a cohesive unit in the first half. Then when Vietnam gained the ascendancy for 10 -15 mins in the second half, our defence lost a bit of shape and composure. Vietnam played some slick football too, until Goodwin changed the game to make it 3-0. McGree was also impressive, with Goodwin produced the assist for a well taken McGree goal. I've only accessed a few Saturday night games in this year's A League season, but where is Chris Ikonomidis? At our last Asian Cup he was out most potent attacking player. Tilio has made rapid improvement and like Goodwin and McGee, was a dangerous sub, who nearly scored. ikon is a marquee player for melbourne victory but has been injured I believe Playing for Victory but not nearly at the level yet to deserve a call up based on the game vs Sydney In the last Asian Cup I compiled attacking stats. Ikon was the player, who played or ball carried most balls into the pen box - by some margin.
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Decentric 2
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Were you at the game live? The atmosphere seemed good on TV. Must admit I was amazed at how few wore masks? I attended the Fish Ashes Test In Hobart on each of the three days. Nearly everybody wore masks.
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Haven't seen any of the game as I wasn't home and it's still not up on paramount or 10play. Pathetic. Not even some highlights.
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On Asia website they gave Mooy the lowest score for the socceroos which is 6.6, Irvine 6.9 (2nd lowest). Highest is Rogic 8 8
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+xHaven't seen any of the game as I wasn't home and it's still not up on paramount or 10play. Pathetic. Not even some highlights. This, absolute BS, had work tonight so made sure I didn't look at any social media all night, get home after midnight expecting to be able to watch the full game 'live', absolutely no sign of a full match replay or mini match on paramount / 10 play, managed to find 5 minute highlights on the socceroos website, this is an utter joke, same thing happens every week with a-league games.
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+xNot sure what Leckie offers above Tillio other than physicallity which is not something we're lacking vs Vietnam. True
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+x+x+xwould of been nice to see riley and rogic together I thought the same thing exactly...... Karacic also had a decent game..., Rogic is a brand new player this year....,,, great to watch him.. Leckie, Sainsbury and Mooy are cooked sorry to say, apart frommthat no complaints for once on Arnies selection, just weak as piss on a quick counter defensively but Degenak did quite well, perhaps we should pair him with big Harry when he comes back..... Agree with Rogic and Leckie evaluation. Although I don't think Leckie has ever had a Golden Age as a forward winger, in terms of goal predating instincts. I think Leckie should have played his career as a RB and Wing Back. Disagree on Mooy though, whose distribution and composure was welcome tonight, even if he struggled off the ball at times when turning and chasing. I'd love to look at a replay, but I thought Sains was solid tonight, even though being part of an occasional malfunctioning defensive unit, that lost its shape at times. A few years ago, when Sains wasn't playing much at club level in 2017, I thought he was really struggling for the Socceroos, but now he looks close to what he was at his peak in the 2015 Asian Cup. The best spell Leckie has ever had for the roos was at the very end of Ange's tenure when we switched to a 352 and Leckie played as a RWB. Was very very good at bringing the ball from one end of the field to the other with his pace, strength and stamina and has decent crossing ability too. Was our best player during these games. He has next to know creative ability, close control, 1st touch. Cannot interplay with other forwards. He also looked good in the 2014 world when receiving the ball deep in our own half (we sat very deep as a team in that cup) and again bringing it from one end of the field to the other. Time to ditch leckie for Boyle, Hrustic, Mabil, Tilio, Arzani and Ikon when he comes back. Much more technical players. Perhaps try Leckie at Rb
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+x+x+x+xwould of been nice to see riley and rogic together I thought the same thing exactly...... Karacic also had a decent game..., Rogic is a brand new player this year....,,, great to watch him.. Leckie, Sainsbury and Mooy are cooked sorry to say, apart frommthat no complaints for once on Arnies selection, just weak as piss on a quick counter defensively but Degenak did quite well, perhaps we should pair him with big Harry when he comes back..... Agree with Rogic and Leckie evaluation. Although I don't think Leckie has ever had a Golden Age as a forward winger, in terms of goal predating instincts. I think Leckie should have played his career as a RB and Wing Back. Disagree on Mooy though, whose distribution and composure was welcome tonight, even if he struggled off the ball at times when turning and chasing. I'd love to look at a replay, but I thought Sains was solid tonight, even though being part of an occasional malfunctioning defensive unit, that lost its shape at times. A few years ago, when Sains wasn't playing much at club level in 2017, I thought he was really struggling for the Socceroos, but now he looks close to what he was at his peak in the 2015 Asian Cup. The best spell Leckie has ever had for the roos was at the very end of Ange's tenure when we switched to a 352 and Leckie played as a RWB. Was very very good at bringing the ball from one end of the field to the other with his pace, strength and stamina and has decent crossing ability too. Was our best player during these games. He has next to know creative ability, close control, 1st touch. Cannot interplay with other forwards. He also looked good in the 2014 world when receiving the ball deep in our own half (we sat very deep as a team in that cup) and again bringing it from one end of the field to the other. Time to ditch leckie for Boyle, Hrustic, Mabil, Tilio, Arzani and Ikon when he comes back. Much more technical players. Perhaps try Leckie at Rb So with the Saudi win, it makes this even tougher. Say we win in the next, and japan wins. Saudi 19 Japan 18 AUSTRALIA 17 If they draw, and we Win. Saudi 20 AUS 17 Japan 16 It means the game vs Japan is ridiculously crucial.Saudis may drop point vs China bit its not very likely.
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+x+x+x+x+xwould of been nice to see riley and rogic together I thought the same thing exactly...... Karacic also had a decent game..., Rogic is a brand new player this year....,,, great to watch him.. Leckie, Sainsbury and Mooy are cooked sorry to say, apart frommthat no complaints for once on Arnies selection, just weak as piss on a quick counter defensively but Degenak did quite well, perhaps we should pair him with big Harry when he comes back..... Agree with Rogic and Leckie evaluation. Although I don't think Leckie has ever had a Golden Age as a forward winger, in terms of goal predating instincts. I think Leckie should have played his career as a RB and Wing Back. Disagree on Mooy though, whose distribution and composure was welcome tonight, even if he struggled off the ball at times when turning and chasing. I'd love to look at a replay, but I thought Sains was solid tonight, even though being part of an occasional malfunctioning defensive unit, that lost its shape at times. A few years ago, when Sains wasn't playing much at club level in 2017, I thought he was really struggling for the Socceroos, but now he looks close to what he was at his peak in the 2015 Asian Cup. The best spell Leckie has ever had for the roos was at the very end of Ange's tenure when we switched to a 352 and Leckie played as a RWB. Was very very good at bringing the ball from one end of the field to the other with his pace, strength and stamina and has decent crossing ability too. Was our best player during these games. He has next to know creative ability, close control, 1st touch. Cannot interplay with other forwards. He also looked good in the 2014 world when receiving the ball deep in our own half (we sat very deep as a team in that cup) and again bringing it from one end of the field to the other. Time to ditch leckie for Boyle, Hrustic, Mabil, Tilio, Arzani and Ikon when he comes back. Much more technical players. Perhaps try Leckie at Rb So with the Saudi win, it makes this even tougher. Say we win in the next, and japan wins. Saudi 19 Japan 18 AUSTRALIA 17 If they draw, and we Win. Saudi 20 AUS 17 Japan 16 It means the game vs Japan is ridiculously crucial.Saudis may drop point vs China bit its not very likely. But this all come down to us beating Oman, China have really fucked us.
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The Saudi win tonight is a massive boost for them. Had it been a draw it would've been very interesting beating Oman and then seeing the Japan Saudi result. Japan have Vietnam final day.
It's more likely we draw with Oman and Japan win against Saudi. S:19 J:18 A:15. See ya. It's the hope that kills you. If anything China can play for fun and may surprise but the previous window was so wasteful.
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+x+x+x+xAfter seeing tonight's game, I'm just sick to death of watching Matt Leckie miss so many goals ( about 100), after 10 years of watching him play international football as a striker or winger. If both Arnie and Ange, think he is worthy of a place in the attacking trio, he just hasn't got enough composure in finishing and penalty box craft. Matt's miss after miss after miss, constantly puts the team under pressure - if - as in today's game, too many chances fall his way. Credit to him getting into good positions, but one has to convert! Thank goodness Muelensteen replaced him with Goodwin. The AU winger, who was barely on the pitch for a few minutes, scored a fantastic, deft, well-taken, clinical strike, that was a game changer! I'm sorry, but Matt is incapable of scoring that sort of goal. Goodwin did in a few minutes on the pitch, what Matt has not been able to do, even once, in 10 years of Socceroo tenure! We will struggle to get to the World Cup if our best options are Leckie, and even Jackson Irvine. At least Jackson has game sense, but was culpable for Rogic's disallowed goal. In a midfield trio off Rogic, Mooy and himself, he is the best at tracking back. Nevertheless, we need players with quicker feet, faster handling speed, able to turn in tighter places, and to be able to play rapidfire pass and move football, like Mooy, Milligan, Grella, Culina. What I can't get over, is that Aus preferred to play down Leckie's innocuous left flank, than Boyle's more potent right flank, with the latter a far more potent threat around goal. Maclaren's goal was well taken, and, he played some deft lay offs to other forwards. Rogic was brilliant and should have had 2 goals, not 1. Still though the attacking trio, of Leckie, Boyle and Maclaren, plus Rogic in a support role at number 10, with Irvine supporting attacks, plus Karacic and King overlapping, it malfunctioned as a cohesive unit in the first half. Then when Vietnam gained the ascendancy for 10 -15 mins in the second half, our defence lost a bit of shape and composure. Vietnam played some slick football too, until Goodwin changed the game to make it 3-0. McGree was also impressive, with Goodwin produced the assist for a well taken McGree goal. I've only accessed a few Saturday night games in this year's A League season, but where is Chris Ikonomidis? At our last Asian Cup he was out most potent attacking player. Tilio has made rapid improvement and like Goodwin and McGee, was a dangerous sub, who nearly scored. ikon is a marquee player for melbourne victory but has been injured I believe Playing for Victory but not nearly at the level yet to deserve a call up based on the game vs Sydney In the last Asian Cup I compiled attacking stats. Ikon was the player, who played or ball carried most balls into the pen box - by some margin. I was referring to his match fitness.
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+xOn Asia website they gave Mooy the lowest score for the socceroos which is 6.6, Irvine 6.9 (2nd lowest). Highest is Rogic 8 8 One has to look at the football credentials of those making the appraisals. Often they don't analysis what they do off the ball. I hope I can view a replay on Youtube.
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Results not good for us but that’s our own fault.
At least we can say we’re boycotting it after the fact 😅
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+x+xOn Asia website they gave Mooy the lowest score for the socceroos which is 6.6, Irvine 6.9 (2nd lowest). Highest is Rogic 8 8 One has to look at the football credentials of those making the appraisals. Often they don't analysis what they do off the ball. I hope I can view a replay on Youtube. No actually the score is pretty fair for all the players. He was very poor in 2nd half..I ve recorded and watched it again. When they pressed him hard or when no space he would lose the ball, just like Japanese game he was awful. Because he was too slow the Viet coach saw this and picked on him. He was our liability in 2nd half and even 1st half when he got time and space his vision wasn't great either.
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+xResults not good for us but that’s our own fault.
At least we can say we’re boycotting it after the fact 😅 At least it is still in our hands. Nobody to blame but ourselves when we finish in third.
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Look at McGree's goal. Very happy for him but you're not scoring that against anyone at half decent level. The space he not only gets but once he takes a touch that bobbles the ball up he's not shut down at all. But good for the confidence!
Goodwin, lovely goal.
Awesome turnout from the Vietnamese - what fantastic fans, would've loved for them to score. It's like they don't play with goals in vietnam. Every time they get near the box it's like the ball is a hand grenade
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Yep drawing points at China has to be our biggest implosion in some time. So so bitter about it.
Let's hope Saudi can jag a result against Japan. However I doubt it. Goes without saying we have to beat Oman.
That happens, and a win against Japan will be enough.
That's the easiest scenario but there are others.
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How do you give mat ryan a 9? he had one save to make and only saved it because the ball was hit straight at him. It's not his fault but 9 is ludicrous for not having to do anything
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+xHow do you give mat ryan a 9? he had one save to make and only saved it because the ball was hit straight at him. It's not his fault but 9 is ludicrous for not having to do anything He also had an assist
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+x+x+x+x+xwould of been nice to see riley and rogic together I thought the same thing exactly...... Karacic also had a decent game..., Rogic is a brand new player this year....,,, great to watch him.. Leckie, Sainsbury and Mooy are cooked sorry to say, apart frommthat no complaints for once on Arnies selection, just weak as piss on a quick counter defensively but Degenak did quite well, perhaps we should pair him with big Harry when he comes back..... Agree with Rogic and Leckie evaluation. Although I don't think Leckie has ever had a Golden Age as a forward winger, in terms of goal predating instincts. I think Leckie should have played his career as a RB and Wing Back. Disagree on Mooy though, whose distribution and composure was welcome tonight, even if he struggled off the ball at times when turning and chasing. I'd love to look at a replay, but I thought Sains was solid tonight, even though being part of an occasional malfunctioning defensive unit, that lost its shape at times. A few years ago, when Sains wasn't playing much at club level in 2017, I thought he was really struggling for the Socceroos, but now he looks close to what he was at his peak in the 2015 Asian Cup. The best spell Leckie has ever had for the roos was at the very end of Ange's tenure when we switched to a 352 and Leckie played as a RWB. Was very very good at bringing the ball from one end of the field to the other with his pace, strength and stamina and has decent crossing ability too. Was our best player during these games. He has next to know creative ability, close control, 1st touch. Cannot interplay with other forwards. He also looked good in the 2014 world when receiving the ball deep in our own half (we sat very deep as a team in that cup) and again bringing it from one end of the field to the other. Time to ditch leckie for Boyle, Hrustic, Mabil, Tilio, Arzani and Ikon when he comes back. Much more technical players. Perhaps try Leckie at Rb It means the game vs Japan is ridiculously crucial. Saudis may drop point vs China bit its not very likely. We need to beat Japan and hold that position in the final game. Very tough ask as usual.
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Japan vs Saudi will be crucial with what happens in the last 2 games.
Beating Oman is a must, cant afford to slip up in any other way.
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it was sad watching leckie last night, what could of been. If he could of converted to a wingback he would be in a top 5 league. Still got some pace and great defensively.
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Its simple we need to win all our remaining matches... if we do we make it... if we don't we come third and given we Asia needs to play the fifth South American team we don't make it... well not this team anyway...
Is it all Arnolds fault.... he can only play with the squad he has... IMO he made two massive errors in teh Japan game in the last 10 to 15 minutes when they were obviously the better side he kept instructing us to go for a win not a draw... if we had drawn we would be three points in front of Japan with a much better goal difference... the second error was the match plan against SA...
Having said this with the finances FFA had at the time...Arnold given the salary being offered arguably a good choice...
I don't feel good about making it this time...
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+xHow do you give mat ryan a 9? he had one save to make and only saved it because the ball was hit straight at him. It's not his fault but 9 is ludicrous for not having to do anything did u miss the assist to goodwin?
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+x+x+xAfter seeing tonight's game, I'm just sick to death of watching Matt Leckie miss so many goals ( about 100), after 10 years of watching him play international football as a striker or winger. If both Arnie and Ange, think he is worthy of a place in the attacking trio, he just hasn't got enough composure in finishing and penalty box craft. Matt's miss after miss after miss, constantly puts the team under pressure - if - as in today's game, too many chances fall his way. Credit to him getting into good positions, but one has to convert! Thank goodness Muelensteen replaced him with Goodwin. The AU winger, who was barely on the pitch for a few minutes, scored a fantastic, deft, well-taken, clinical strike, that was a game changer! I'm sorry, but Matt is incapable of scoring that sort of goal. Goodwin did in a few minutes on the pitch, what Matt has not been able to do, even once, in 10 years of Socceroo tenure! We will struggle to get to the World Cup if our best options are Leckie, and even Jackson Irvine. At least Jackson has game sense, but was culpable for Rogic's disallowed goal. In a midfield trio off Rogic, Mooy and himself, he is the best at tracking back. Nevertheless, we need players with quicker feet, faster handling speed, able to turn in tighter places, and to be able to play rapidfire pass and move football, like Mooy, Milligan, Grella, Culina. What I can't get over, is that Aus preferred to play down Leckie's innocuous left flank, than Boyle's more potent right flank, with the latter a far more potent threat around goal. Maclaren's goal was well taken, and, he played some deft lay offs to other forwards. Rogic was brilliant and should have had 2 goals, not 1. Still though the attacking trio, of Leckie, Boyle and Maclaren, plus Rogic in a support role at number 10, with Irvine supporting attacks, plus Karacic and King overlapping, it malfunctioned as a cohesive unit in the first half. Then when Vietnam gained the ascendancy for 10 -15 mins in the second half, our defence lost a bit of shape and composure. Vietnam played some slick football too, until Goodwin changed the game to make it 3-0. McGree was also impressive, with Goodwin produced the assist for a well taken McGree goal. I've only accessed a few Saturday night games in this year's A League season, but where is Chris Ikonomidis? At our last Asian Cup he was out most potent attacking player. Tilio has made rapid improvement and like Goodwin and McGee, was a dangerous sub, who nearly scored. ikon is a marquee player for melbourne victory but has been injured I believe Playing for Victory but not nearly at the level yet to deserve a call up based on the game vs Sydney And can’t get a game ahead of Ben Folami atm.
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I missed the game because of work but the score line is very pleasing.
Also great to see Goodwin and McGree score their first international goals, two players who I feel should really be playing a lot more for the NT.
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As others have said above we need 9 points to guarantee a top 2 finish and 7 points will most likely be enough if we get all 3 points against Japan.
We are almost past the point of relying on results of games against the bottom 3 and the only possible bonus is if Saudi are already qualified on the final matchday it possibly means we are more likely to get 1 or 3 points on the last match day against a rotated Saudi team if we are still chasing direct qualification.
A 0-0 or 1-1 draw between Japan and Saudi would be helpful, but we must get the 3 points away to Oman.
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