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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe Post Millennial? This is is a source akin to that loony who was posting science data here from that just as esteemed website - welovetrump.com - before he got covid Trust AJF to come here and start peddling some "liberal elite and the deep state" biological research fantasy bullshit. I know you have difficulty reading or believing anything that isn't printed in lefty MSM like the Guardian, but this aint no conspiracy, just facts from US Senate Meeting, video of testimony freely avaiable on web. Here is link and exert to transcript from US Senator Marco Rubio below. Note that Nuland didnt deny existence of chemical or bio weapons. Question is if there is no BioLab in Ukraine, why is US State Dept worried and trying to keep Ruskies away from them? Rubio: Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological-research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=E579E02B-3BA3-4FED-A515-A175384AD9D0 There's a difference between biological research labs and biological weapons research. For example Australia would have hundreds, if not more, biological research labs. Imagine someone invading Australia and then telling the world they were doing it because of our biological weapons research. FFS. Nice selective quoting by the way. Did you even read the transcript or just the headlines? Rubio is saying any talk of biological weapons is a false flag by Russia. Rubio Speaks at Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing on Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine, Condemns Talks with MaduroMAR 08 2022 Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) spoke during a Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing and condemned the Biden Administration’s decision to engage in talks with the Maduro narco-regime of Venezuela. Rubio also warned of the possibility of Russian false flag operations involving biological warfare and discussed Russia’s frozen economy. Video of Rubio’s remarks can be found here and a full transcript is below. Rubio. I only have a minute left. Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. Rubio: I'm sure you're aware that the Russian propaganda groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country with NATO's coordination. If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100 percent, it would be the Russians that would be behind it? Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Trump was great at this.
Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons.
Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂 The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp.
Based off his inheritance he had so many failures.
But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side.
Never forget he tried to extort Zelensky for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding $400 million in military aid. What a guy. Never forget, Trump was right. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html"Federal tax prosecutors generally fight to keep jurors from knowing whether defendants have paid their back tax bills, arguing that the crime happens when the return is falsely filed or not filed at all" Hunter Biden was also lining up meetings for pay with his then Vice President father in Ukraine whilst alsoworking in Ukraine for an obscene salary in a job he literally knew nothing about. And not paying his taxes. I reckon that's dirt enough, wouldn't you say? What you should be concerned about is how your side of the media sought to bury this. By exyension how do you actually know what you read abut Ukraine is not propaganda. all of this is inference by Trumpkins, there are no facts backing up this conspiracy theory and you know it
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe Post Millennial? This is is a source akin to that loony who was posting science data here from that just as esteemed website - welovetrump.com - before he got covid Trust AJF to come here and start peddling some "liberal elite and the deep state" biological research fantasy bullshit. I know you have difficulty reading or believing anything that isn't printed in lefty MSM like the Guardian, but this aint no conspiracy, just facts from US Senate Meeting, video of testimony freely avaiable on web. Here is link and exert to transcript from US Senator Marco Rubio below. Note that Nuland didnt deny existence of chemical or bio weapons. Question is if there is no BioLab in Ukraine, why is US State Dept worried and trying to keep Ruskies away from them? Rubio: Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological-research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=E579E02B-3BA3-4FED-A515-A175384AD9D0 There's a difference between biological research labs and biological weapons research. For example Australia would have hundreds, if not more, biological research labs. Imagine someone invading Australia and then telling the world they were doing it because of our biological weapons research. FFS. Nice selective quoting by the way. Did you even read the transcript or just the headlines? Rubio is saying any talk of biological weapons is a false flag by Russia. Rubio Speaks at Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing on Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine, Condemns Talks with MaduroMAR 08 2022 Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) spoke during a Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing and condemned the Biden Administration’s decision to engage in talks with the Maduro narco-regime of Venezuela. Rubio also warned of the possibility of Russian false flag operations involving biological warfare and discussed Russia’s frozen economy. Video of Rubio’s remarks can be found here and a full transcript is below. Rubio. I only have a minute left. Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. Rubio: I'm sure you're aware that the Russian propaganda groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country with NATO's coordination. If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100 percent, it would be the Russians that would be behind it? Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Trump was great at this.
Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons.
Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂 The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp.
Based off his inheritance he had so many failures.
But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side.
Never forget he tried to extort Zelensky for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding $400 million in military aid. What a guy. Never forget, Trump was right. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.htmlI reckon that's dirt enough, wouldn't you say? Yes, yes I see. Nepotism by an unelected presidential opponent is a fair pretext to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to an ally . Cool. So unusual and ridiculously out of the ordinary was the request that the conversation was reported immediately afterwards. Immediately after the Trump–Zelenskyy call ended, White House national security aides discussed their deep concerns, with at least one National Security Council (NSC) official alerting White House national security lawyers.[31][32] A text message between a State Department envoy to Ukraine and a Ukrainian official showed the envoy understood from the White House that a Zelenskyy visit with Trump was contingent upon Ukraine's investigating a conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[33] And? Biden held back aid until after a Ukraine government official was sacked. Besides who better than the Ukraine government to investigate allegations of meddling in US democracy by people in Ukraine. And what better motivator than to withhold money of they don't? Anyway, Trump was mistaken: the meddling was closer to home with Clinton's Russiagate claims and the Steele Dossier that she and the Democrats literally paid to get written.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe Post Millennial? This is is a source akin to that loony who was posting science data here from that just as esteemed website - welovetrump.com - before he got covid Trust AJF to come here and start peddling some "liberal elite and the deep state" biological research fantasy bullshit. I know you have difficulty reading or believing anything that isn't printed in lefty MSM like the Guardian, but this aint no conspiracy, just facts from US Senate Meeting, video of testimony freely avaiable on web. Here is link and exert to transcript from US Senator Marco Rubio below. Note that Nuland didnt deny existence of chemical or bio weapons. Question is if there is no BioLab in Ukraine, why is US State Dept worried and trying to keep Ruskies away from them? Rubio: Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological-research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=E579E02B-3BA3-4FED-A515-A175384AD9D0 There's a difference between biological research labs and biological weapons research. For example Australia would have hundreds, if not more, biological research labs. Imagine someone invading Australia and then telling the world they were doing it because of our biological weapons research. FFS. Nice selective quoting by the way. Did you even read the transcript or just the headlines? Rubio is saying any talk of biological weapons is a false flag by Russia. Rubio Speaks at Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing on Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine, Condemns Talks with MaduroMAR 08 2022 Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) spoke during a Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing and condemned the Biden Administration’s decision to engage in talks with the Maduro narco-regime of Venezuela. Rubio also warned of the possibility of Russian false flag operations involving biological warfare and discussed Russia’s frozen economy. Video of Rubio’s remarks can be found here and a full transcript is below. Rubio. I only have a minute left. Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. Rubio: I'm sure you're aware that the Russian propaganda groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country with NATO's coordination. If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100 percent, it would be the Russians that would be behind it? Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Trump was great at this.
Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons.
Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂 The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp.
Based off his inheritance he had so many failures.
But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side.
Never forget he tried to extort Zelensky for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding $400 million in military aid. What a guy. Never forget, Trump was right. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html"Federal tax prosecutors generally fight to keep jurors from knowing whether defendants have paid their back tax bills, arguing that the crime happens when the return is falsely filed or not filed at all" Hunter Biden was also lining up meetings for pay with his then Vice President father in Ukraine whilst alsoworking in Ukraine for an obscene salary in a job he literally knew nothing about. And not paying his taxes. I reckon that's dirt enough, wouldn't you say? What you should be concerned about is how your side of the media sought to bury this. By exyension how do you actually know what you read abut Ukraine is not propaganda. all of this is inference by Trumpkins, there are no facts backing up this conspiracy theory and you know it Haha. Good one.
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When you actually look at the long history of the US and Biden's involvement in the last 10 years in Ukraine, a country most people would not be able to find on a map, doesn't that ring alarm bells that something has been up for a while? Why their interest in Ukraine?. Democracy my arse. The US wants this war.
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+xWhen you actually look at the long history of the US and Biden's involvement in the last 10 years in Ukraine, a country most people would not be able to find on a map, doesn't that ring alarm bells that something has been up for a while? Why their interest in Ukraine?. Democracy my arse. The US wants this war. Yeah I wonder why the US would be interested in a liberal democracy on Russia's doorstep that wants to join the EU and possibly NATO. Baffling. https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-s-zelenskyy-call-key-point-amid-russia-s-ukraine-n1291960?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
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this Enzo clown probably isn't even vaccinated
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe Post Millennial? This is is a source akin to that loony who was posting science data here from that just as esteemed website - welovetrump.com - before he got covid Trust AJF to come here and start peddling some "liberal elite and the deep state" biological research fantasy bullshit. I know you have difficulty reading or believing anything that isn't printed in lefty MSM like the Guardian, but this aint no conspiracy, just facts from US Senate Meeting, video of testimony freely avaiable on web. Here is link and exert to transcript from US Senator Marco Rubio below. Note that Nuland didnt deny existence of chemical or bio weapons. Question is if there is no BioLab in Ukraine, why is US State Dept worried and trying to keep Ruskies away from them? Rubio: Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological-research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=E579E02B-3BA3-4FED-A515-A175384AD9D0 There's a difference between biological research labs and biological weapons research. For example Australia would have hundreds, if not more, biological research labs. Imagine someone invading Australia and then telling the world they were doing it because of our biological weapons research. FFS. Nice selective quoting by the way. Did you even read the transcript or just the headlines? Rubio is saying any talk of biological weapons is a false flag by Russia. Rubio Speaks at Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing on Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine, Condemns Talks with MaduroMAR 08 2022 Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) spoke during a Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing and condemned the Biden Administration’s decision to engage in talks with the Maduro narco-regime of Venezuela. Rubio also warned of the possibility of Russian false flag operations involving biological warfare and discussed Russia’s frozen economy. Video of Rubio’s remarks can be found here and a full transcript is below. Rubio. I only have a minute left. Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. Rubio: I'm sure you're aware that the Russian propaganda groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country with NATO's coordination. If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100 percent, it would be the Russians that would be behind it? Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Trump was great at this.
Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons.
Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂 The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp.
Based off his inheritance he had so many failures.
But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side.
Never forget he tried to extort Zelensky for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding $400 million in military aid. What a guy. Never forget, Trump was right. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.htmlI reckon that's dirt enough, wouldn't you say? Yes, yes I see. Nepotism by an unelected presidential opponent is a fair pretext to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to an ally . Cool. So unusual and ridiculously out of the ordinary was the request that the conversation was reported immediately afterwards. Immediately after the Trump–Zelenskyy call ended, White House national security aides discussed their deep concerns, with at least one National Security Council (NSC) official alerting White House national security lawyers.[31][32] A text message between a State Department envoy to Ukraine and a Ukrainian official showed the envoy understood from the White House that a Zelenskyy visit with Trump was contingent upon Ukraine's investigating a conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[33] And? Biden held back aid until after a Ukraine government official was sacked. Besides who better than the Ukraine government to investigate allegations of meddling in US democracy by people in Ukraine. And what better motivator than to withhold money of they don't? Anyway, Trump was mistaken: the meddling was closer to home with Clinton's Russiagate claims and the Steele Dossier that she and the Democrats literally paid to get written. And? Lol. You clown. Biden wanting a corrupt official sacked before providing funding is suspect how?! Weren't you saying they had a corrupt government. There's a world of difference between asking for dirt on an opponent and giving aid on the proviso that a corrupt official is booted. No aid given anywhere is unconditional. And the dossier. The dossier that contains details on Trump getting pissed on by 2 prostitutes? That dossier? Occams razor tells you that that story is more likely true than not. It's no small wonder why Trump was so friendly to Putin.
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+xWhen you actually look at the long history of the US and Biden's involvement in the last 10 years in Ukraine, a country most people would not be able to find on a map, doesn't that ring alarm bells that something has been up for a while? Why their interest in Ukraine?. Democracy my arse. The US wants this war. Since when has being able to find a country on a map ever stopped the US from sticking their grubby noses in everywhere? 'Can you name a country?' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umpalMtQE50
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+xthis Enzo clown probably isn't even vaccinated Log in, log out and still can't get any bites.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe Post Millennial? This is is a source akin to that loony who was posting science data here from that just as esteemed website - welovetrump.com - before he got covid Trust AJF to come here and start peddling some "liberal elite and the deep state" biological research fantasy bullshit. I know you have difficulty reading or believing anything that isn't printed in lefty MSM like the Guardian, but this aint no conspiracy, just facts from US Senate Meeting, video of testimony freely avaiable on web. Here is link and exert to transcript from US Senator Marco Rubio below. Note that Nuland didnt deny existence of chemical or bio weapons. Question is if there is no BioLab in Ukraine, why is US State Dept worried and trying to keep Ruskies away from them? Rubio: Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological-research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=E579E02B-3BA3-4FED-A515-A175384AD9D0 There's a difference between biological research labs and biological weapons research. For example Australia would have hundreds, if not more, biological research labs. Imagine someone invading Australia and then telling the world they were doing it because of our biological weapons research. FFS. Nice selective quoting by the way. Did you even read the transcript or just the headlines? Rubio is saying any talk of biological weapons is a false flag by Russia. Rubio Speaks at Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing on Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine, Condemns Talks with MaduroMAR 08 2022 Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) spoke during a Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing and condemned the Biden Administration’s decision to engage in talks with the Maduro narco-regime of Venezuela. Rubio also warned of the possibility of Russian false flag operations involving biological warfare and discussed Russia’s frozen economy. Video of Rubio’s remarks can be found here and a full transcript is below. Rubio. I only have a minute left. Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons? Nuland: Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach. Rubio: I'm sure you're aware that the Russian propaganda groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country with NATO's coordination. If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100 percent, it would be the Russians that would be behind it? Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. Trump was great at this.
Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons.
Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂 The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp.
Based off his inheritance he had so many failures.
But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side.
Never forget he tried to extort Zelensky for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding $400 million in military aid. What a guy. Never forget, Trump was right. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.htmlI reckon that's dirt enough, wouldn't you say? Yes, yes I see. Nepotism by an unelected presidential opponent is a fair pretext to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to an ally . Cool. So unusual and ridiculously out of the ordinary was the request that the conversation was reported immediately afterwards. Immediately after the Trump–Zelenskyy call ended, White House national security aides discussed their deep concerns, with at least one National Security Council (NSC) official alerting White House national security lawyers.[31][32] A text message between a State Department envoy to Ukraine and a Ukrainian official showed the envoy understood from the White House that a Zelenskyy visit with Trump was contingent upon Ukraine's investigating a conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[33] And? Biden held back aid until after a Ukraine government official was sacked. Besides who better than the Ukraine government to investigate allegations of meddling in US democracy by people in Ukraine. And what better motivator than to withhold money of they don't? Anyway, Trump was mistaken: the meddling was closer to home with Clinton's Russiagate claims and the Steele Dossier that she and the Democrats literally paid to get written. And? Lol. You clown. Biden wanting a corrupt official sacked before providing funding is suspect how?! Weren't you saying they had a corrupt government. There's a world of difference between asking for dirt on an opponent and giving aid on the proviso that a corrupt official is booted. No aid given anywhere is unconditional. And the dossier. The dossier that contains details on Trump getting pissed on by 2 prostitutes? That dossier? Occams razor tells you that that story is more likely true than not. It's no small wonder why Trump was so friendly to Putin. The only clown here is you. A perpetuallly angry clown. How does that even work? But here it is. The Steele Dossier has been discredited on numerous accounts.
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Liberal democracy. Haha. That's funny. [Edit] Zelensky is a comedian so there is that.
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+xLiberal democracy. Haha. That's funny. [Edit] Zelensky is a comedian so there is that. What is your actual problem with Ukraine? Is it Biden and 'woke' leftists or is it something else? The MSMs narrative? What?
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+x+xLiberal democracy. Haha. That's funny. [Edit] Zelensky is a comedian so there is that. What is your actual problem with Ukraine? Is it Biden and 'woke' leftists or is it something else? The MSMs narrative? What? I have no problem with the Ukraine people. At all. Yes I have problem the Biden's abusing their political power in Ukraine for personal gain. I have a problem with how the US interfered in Ukraine's internal affairs, Destablizing their elected government and then claiming that its democracy that they are fighting for. And I absolutely detest the MSM's narrative that Russia's actions are simply those of a deranged mad ma, an Hitler Mark 2, and that there is nothing more to this war than that.
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+x+x+xLiberal democracy. Haha. That's funny. [Edit] Zelensky is a comedian so there is that. What is your actual problem with Ukraine? Is it Biden and 'woke' leftists or is it something else? The MSMs narrative? What? And I absolutely detest the MSM's narrative that Russia's actions are simply those of a deranged mad ma, an Hitler Mark 2, and that there is nothing more to this war than that. Yeah, somewhere in between the poisoning of political opponents and the murder of dozens of journalists the liberal elitist "MSM" have created this bizarre myth that Putin is bit of a prick. Totally unfair of course. They should focus on his softer side.
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some thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years
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+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers.
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So the Ukrainians hit a couple of ships today in a harbour and then the defence minister (I think) said thanks to the Russian journalists that were on board broadcasting their positions. https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/ukrainian-navy-claim-to-have-destroyed-russian-warship-docked-at-a-port-carrying-military-aid-to-vladimir-putins-soldiers/news-story/7dbf325aa1f9b16d1db8bafb4119ae20I would have though the US or Britain would be watching all of this live via their military satellites and giving Ukraine real time information and intelligence on troop and armour movements.
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+x+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers. Putin doesn't need those. He has thermobaric weapons which suck the lungs out of your body and been used extensively since Chechnya. (And in Syria.) See also chemical weapons and phosporic weaponry. But yes the US have an equally set of disgusting weapons.
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+x+x+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers. Putin doesn't need those. He has thermobaric weapons which suck the lungs out of your body and been used extensively since Chechnya. (And in Syria.) See also chemical weapons and phosporic weaponry. But yes the US have an equally set of disgusting weapons. Absolutely fair.... Poor Russia has never had the chance to drop two nuclear weapons on a civilian population though so maybe its time to even the ledger???? Point being "War is hell" and all this jingoistic chest beating from the media is fuelling garbage debate and anxiety for feeble minds ..... nothing else mate.
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+x+x+x+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers. Putin doesn't need those. He has thermobaric weapons which suck the lungs out of your body and been used extensively since Chechnya. (And in Syria.) See also chemical weapons and phosporic weaponry. But yes the US have an equally set of disgusting weapons. Absolutely fair.... Poor Russia has never had the chance to drop two nuclear weapons on a civilian population though so maybe its time to even the ledger???? Point being "War is hell" and all this jingoistic chest beating from the media is fuelling garbage debate and anxiety for feeble minds ..... nothing else mate. An equally feeble argument is just saying "well what about when x did y?". Like that justifies anything. That mindset is EXACTLY why things happen over and over and over and over again. "But muuuuuuuuuum he did it first" "if he jumped off a bridge would you do it too?"
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If John killed someone drink driving should he not try and save a drowning child?
John confronts Gary who threw the child in the river, Gary says "hey, you're one to talk"
John should just leave I guess
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+x+x+x+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers. Putin doesn't need those. He has thermobaric weapons which suck the lungs out of your body and been used extensively since Chechnya. (And in Syria.) See also chemical weapons and phosporic weaponry. But yes the US have an equally set of disgusting weapons. Absolutely fair.... Poor Russia has never had the chance to drop two nuclear weapons on a civilian population though so maybe its time to even the ledger???? Point being "War is hell" and all this jingoistic chest beating from the media is fuelling garbage debate and anxiety for feeble minds ..... nothing else mate. It's not jingoistic and it's not chest beating. It's one country invading another independent country. People are rightfully upset. Humans are, like it or not, tribal and what we see in the Ukraine is confronting and upsetting. Shit that goes down in the Middle east or Africa is equally bad but outside our frame of reference and is happening to 'others' so we tend to blot it out. (I know if anything comes up regards Israel for example I just tune right out.) Just because A is happening over there doesn't mean B happening over here doesn't count. Plenty of people have demonstrated in their millions and argued and long and hard about American involvement in the many conflicts since Vietnam if not earlier. (Many people, me included think dropping 2 atomic bombs on Japan without giving them a demo elsewhere first was a war crime). I think you are framing this wrong and your anger is misplaced.
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+x+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers. Not sure of your point?
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You know it's possible for us to be against both US and Russian aggression?
And just because we do not wish to see civillians suffer in Ukraine, that does not mean anything other than we do not want to see civillians suffer.
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Exactly. It's really pretty simple
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+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Yeah, but Whatabbout the Spanish American War in 1898? And Whatabbout the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879? Hypocrite.
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+x+x+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers. Not sure of your point? That the west have committed atrocities in wars before so Putin gets a free pass at Ukraine. Well done mono!!
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Folks we now have scientific proof that anti-vaxxers are Putin apologists This survey conducted in Canada shows that the unvaccinated were far less supportive of sanctions against Putin's regime https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2022/03/public-attitudes-to-ukraine-conflict-by-vaccine-acceptance/
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+x+x+x+x+xsome thing like 10x missiles already have hit Ulkraine then the entire syria conflict in five years Wow, maybe the US can send Putin some of those humanitarian Napalm canisters they have been using to roast people alive since 1947, that is such a more civilized way to treat unarmed farmers. Putin doesn't need those. He has thermobaric weapons which suck the lungs out of your body and been used extensively since Chechnya. (And in Syria.) See also chemical weapons and phosporic weaponry. But yes the US have an equally set of disgusting weapons. Absolutely fair.... Poor Russia has never had the chance to drop two nuclear weapons on a civilian population though so maybe its time to even the ledger???? Point being "War is hell" and all this jingoistic chest beating from the media is fuelling garbage debate and anxiety for feeble minds ..... nothing else mate. It's not jingoistic and it's not chest beating. It's one country invading another independent country. People are rightfully upset. Humans are, like it or not, tribal and what we see in the Ukraine is confronting and upsetting. Shit that goes down in the Middle east or Africa is equally bad but outside our frame of reference and is happening to 'others' so we tend to blot it out. (I know if anything comes up regards Israel for example I just tune right out.)Just because A is happening over there doesn't mean B happening over here doesn't count. Plenty of people have demonstrated in their millions and argued and long and hard about American involvement in the many conflicts since Vietnam if not earlier. (Many people, me included think dropping 2 atomic bombs on Japan without giving them a demo elsewhere first was a war crime). I think you are framing this wrong and your anger is misplaced. This sentence is EXACTLY what I am angry about Muz..... "Outside our frame of reference"??? C'mon mate what the fark does that mean? Aren't muslim kids and African kids .... kids? To alleviate everyones fears I HATE RUSSIA AND I HATE PUTIN....... Its not about "whataboutism" its just that I really, really dislike the narrative building up around this latest US "crusade" and it seem to me (Maybe I am wrong) that MSM and social media is LYING to us all.
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