The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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Munrubenmuz - 11 Apr 2022 5:25 PM
tsf - 11 Apr 2022 3:09 PM

Labour $250 billion debt. "DEBT AND DEFICIT DISASTER!!!!"

Liberals. $1 trillion dollars debt? What's the problem? 


Remember in the budget 2-3 years ago they promised we would be in surplus the following year and sold it like we were already in surplus? Then COVID hit... The whole economic management thing is rubbish.
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When they asked albo the unemployment rate he should’ve just said ‘does anyone know? These guys are now counting tafe students and people working a shift as employed. Next they’ll be counting the tuck shop lady at u8s footy’ 
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tsf - 11 Apr 2022 7:09 PM
When they asked albo the unemployment rate he should’ve just said ‘does anyone know? These guys are now counting rage students and people working a shift as employed. Next they’ll be counting the tuck shop lady at u8s footy’ 

Well, she isn't actively looking for employment... So she's not counted as unemployed :)
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Burztur - 11 Apr 2022 8:35 PM
tsf - 11 Apr 2022 7:09 PM

Well, she isn't actively looking for employment... So she's not counted as unemployed :)

ha ha yeah
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Counting employed with no hours (no income) we are at over 8% unemployed. The total of unemployed and underemployed is over 15%. We have moved more and more to a gig economy where employment is inherently unstable. The idiocy of economists expecting NAIRU (which the govt is depending on as their belief that wages will rise) to act in the same way as in the past when the nature of work and the measures of employment/unemployment has changed is staggeringly naïve. Wages will not grow in this country until we approach real low unemployment and that will require more hours and more stable work.
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patjennings - 12 Apr 2022 11:13 AM
Counting employed with no hours (no income) we are at over 8% unemployed. The total of unemployed and underemployed is over 15%. We have moved more and more to a gig economy where employment is inherently unstable. The idiocy of economists expecting NAIRU (which the govt is depending on as their belief that wages will rise) to act in the same way as in the past when the nature of work and the measures of employment/unemployment has changed is staggeringly naïve. Wages will not grow in this country until we approach real low unemployment and that will require more hours and more stable work.

Spot on.

Not really going to engage with the media rubbish this election as they just play games. Albo should know the game and have had that figure in his head so shame on him but the information is largely pointless. The government pushing the narrative that "the economy is going great", I don't think is resonating with many people out there because of issues like above.
We'll see, my prediction is that the government will hold on to the seats it needs to and we're in for another 3 years of shit. I hope I'm wrong.

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mcjules - 12 Apr 2022 2:04 PM
patjennings - 12 Apr 2022 11:13 AM

Spot on.

Not really going to engage with the media rubbish this election as they just play games. Albo should know the game and have had that figure in his head so shame on him but the information is largely pointless. The government pushing the narrative that "the economy is going great", I don't think is resonating with many people out there because of issues like above.
We'll see, my prediction is that the government will hold on to the seats it needs to and we're in for another 3 years of shit. I hope I'm wrong.

You may well be right. However, I find that the media is concentrating on about 12 seats that they think are pivotal. The reality is that the number is closer to 50 seats that are in play Some of those are on big LNP margins but are being challenged by what would be considered small l liberal independents whose concerns are ICAC and climate change. Kooyong, Goldstein and North Sydney to name 3. There are also a lot of LNP incumbents that have built up buffers that are retiring that will bring other seats into play. 

The point is though that the ALP are protecting a lot of small margins. Seats will go both ways - including a number that people are not even talking about.. This election is a lot closer when viewed as a seat by seat rather than a national or even state based opinion poll.  
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patjennings - 12 Apr 2022 2:34 PM
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You may well be right. However, I find that the media is concentrating on about 12 seats that they think are pivotal. The reality is that the number is closer to 50 seats that are in play Some of those are on big LNP margins but are being challenged by what would be considered small l liberal independents whose concerns are ICAC and climate change. Kooyong, Goldstein and North Sydney to name 3. There are also a lot of LNP incumbents that have built up buffers that are retiring that will bring other seats into play. 

The point is though that the ALP are protecting a lot of small margins. Seats will go both ways - including a number that people are not even talking about.. This election is a lot closer when viewed as a seat by seat rather than a national or even state based opinion poll.  

We had most of this last time and the dial barely moved where it mattered. Would love to be proven wrong but I don't see it.

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15 years labor has had to prepare and it’s already looking a shambles. 

Ffs - attack these fools. 

The current government is our worst performing económic managers in modern history. And so corrupt it’s almost unbelievable. 

They make up stats to suit themselves and the scandals are shameless and endless. 

Labor need to get  up and roast them. Don’t give some wishy washy bullshit. It failed last time with wet cardboard shorten and will again. 

You know you’re up shit creek when the greens are performing better in the media. 

Give Morrison a nasty nickname, call LNP out on their pathetic economics, do something ffs 

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tsf - 15 Apr 2022 11:12 AM
15 years labor has had to prepare and it’s already looking a shambles. 

Ffs - attack these fools. 

The current government is our worst performing económic managers in modern history. And so corrupt it’s almost unbelievable. 

They make up stats to suit themselves and the scandals are shameless and endless. 

Labor need to get  up and roast them. Don’t give some wishy washy bullshit. It failed last time with wet cardboard shorten and will again. 

You know you’re up shit creek when the greens are performing better in the media. 

Give Morrison a nasty nickname, call LNP out on their pathetic economics, do something ffs 

Agreed, the ICAC stuff is the most obvious place to attack them. Not sure what they were waiting for.

Whether it'll get any traction is another thing. The media hit job on Labor is as intense as it's ever been.

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mcjules - 16 Apr 2022 12:15 PM
tsf - 15 Apr 2022 11:12 AM

Agreed, the ICAC stuff is the most obvious place to attack them. Not sure what they were waiting for.

Whether it'll get any traction is another thing. The media hit job on Labor is as intense as it's ever been.

I think news corp should have to be registered for electron advertising purposes on behalf of the LNP. It’s not reporting news, it’s blatant advertising on their behalf. 
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If I were a Labour strategist I'd say 'don't take our word for it, take theirs' and then just do voiceovers for all the smack his own side have been saying for him. Gladys, Barnaby Concetta FW, etc.





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Munrubenmuz - 17 Apr 2022 12:00 PM
If I were a Labour strategist I'd say 'don't take our word for it, take theirs' and then just do voiceovers for all the smack his own side have been saying for him. Gladys, Barnaby Concetta FW, etc.


Thats what my and mates were saying the other day. 

Just have billboards with quotes from his own party
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tsf - 15 Apr 2022 11:12 AM
15 years labor has had to prepare and it’s already looking a shambles. 

Ffs - attack these fools. 

The current government is our worst performing económic managers in modern history. And so corrupt it’s almost unbelievable. 

They make up stats to suit themselves and the scandals are shameless and endless. 

Labor need to get  up and roast them. Don’t give some wishy washy bullshit. It failed last time with wet cardboard shorten and will again. 

You know you’re up shit creek when the greens are performing better in the media. 

Give Morrison a nasty nickname, call LNP out on their pathetic economics, do something ffs 

I know a few vote swingers, their comments over the weekend is 2 fold.
One better the devil you know.
The other Albo, wet carboard shorten followed by wet blanket albo, he doesn't come across convincing one bit.


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Democracy doesn't work without viable & aggressive opposition.  

The campaigns are all fluff with zero substance & zero discussion of actual policy.  But it seems that's what the people want & as I always says.   People get the government they deserve.   
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ErogenousZone - 19 Apr 2022 6:39 PM

The campaigns are all fluff with zero substance & zero discussion of actual policy.  

spot on
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China just got a base on our doorstep cause our idiotic fools were asleep at the wheel again and The Australian newspaper just goes with these idiotic stories about transgender in sport. 

Ffs these conservatives media fools and meaninglesss issues. Do the idiots that gobble this deliberate distraction up really believe men are going to put on skirts and start playing in womens soort? How is this even a thing. This country is just 😳

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hear you tsf.....
All the minor issues and gender bs gets front page - pathetic people carrying on about the Teal Independants.
What a useless one track lot they all are, what use in the big picture.
This country has become a asylum.


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tsf - 20 Apr 2022 11:26 AM
China just got a base on our doorstep cause our idiotic fools were asleep at the wheel again and The Australian newspaper just goes with these idiotic stories about transgender in sport. 

Ffs these conservatives media fools and meaninglesss issues. Do the idiots that gobble this deliberate distraction up really believe men are going to put on skirts and start playing in womens soort? How is this even a thing. This country is just 😳

It's amazing isn't it. If it were labour that let China waltz in it'd be front page news for days.

Regardless of your politics this is a major fail.

Apparently they were warned China were making overtures last year and the best Scomo could do was send a junior minister only a couple of weeks ago.

Too little, too late.

Even America are pissed about this.

Fucking China.


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Also $5.5 billion for the cancelled submarine contacts. Crickets.

Might be repeating myself here but at $800 billion debt at just 2% (don't know the actual rate) interest thats $43 million dollars a day in interest. $1.8 million an hour, every hour of every day.

Anything in the papers?  Nope. I can remember when labour were $150 billion in debt and they never shut up about it.

When they talk about media bias they should at least recognise that it swings both ways.


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Munrubenmuz - 21 Apr 2022 7:50 AM
Also $5.5 billion for the cancelled submarine contacts. Crickets.

Might be repeating myself here but at $800 billion debt at just 2% (don't know the actual rate) interest thats $43 million dollars a day in interest. $1.8 million an hour, every hour of every day.

Anything in the papers?  Nope. I can remember when labour were $150 billion in debt and they never shut up about it.

When they talk about media bias they should at least recognise that it swings both ways.

Labor didn't have a world wide pandemic that's dragging into its fourth year.  The media- even the Labor friends at Fairfax and the ABC- know that reporting on the debt will not interest the public.  For a start, the public got lots a free money.

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tsf - 16 Apr 2022 12:55 PM
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I think news corp should have to be registered for electron advertising purposes on behalf of the LNP. It’s not reporting news, it’s blatant advertising on their behalf. 

Election night on the ABC was embarrassing.

Or the shit Get Up got away with?

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tsf - 20 Apr 2022 11:26 AM
China just got a base on our doorstep cause our idiotic fools were asleep at the wheel again and The Australian newspaper just goes with these idiotic stories about transgender in sport. 

Ffs these conservatives media fools and meaninglesss issues. Do the idiots that gobble this deliberate distraction up really believe men are going to put on skirts and start playing in womens soort? How is this even a thing. This country is just 😳


yeah when Trump went after both Russia and China the fools in the left wing media do?

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Enzo Bearzot - 21 Apr 2022 8:29 AM
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yeah when Trump went after both Russia and China the fools in the left wing media do?

Not sure of your point or reference here but it is true, Trump would never have let China build a military base in Barbados. 

Maye. Russia though, I mean he loved those guys…for some weird reason

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tsf - 21 Apr 2022 9:05 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 21 Apr 2022 8:29 AM

Not sure of your point or reference here but it is true, Trump would never have let China build a military base in Barbados. 

Maye. Russia though, I mean he loved those guys…for some weird reason

Trump was right in word and action about many things. He warned the Europeans about the threat of Russian whilst at the same time avoiding war with them.

The Russia collusion narrative was an illegally-funded hoax paid for by Clinton.


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Munrubenmuz - 21 Apr 2022 7:50 AM
Also $5.5 billion for the cancelled submarine contacts. Crickets.

Might be repeating myself here but at $800 billion debt at just 2% (don't know the actual rate) interest thats $43 million dollars a day in interest. $1.8 million an hour, every hour of every day.

Anything in the papers?  Nope. I can remember when labour were $150 billion in debt and they never shut up about it.

When they talk about media bias they should at least recognise that it swings both ways.

It’s incredible. You forget just all their screwups there has been that many. 

From over shooting jobkeeper, to not putting in a clause for profitable businesses to pumping 60 odd million into the covid app that 7 people used. 

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I think it should be noted that the government sent senior ministers lobbying all over Europe when the Great Barrier Reef was going to be listed as endangered but not when China was coming next door. Says all you need to know. 
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Remarkable these pricks - all about government staying out of free enterprise apparently, until it goes against their interest. 

Throwing their toys out the pram about Mike Cannon-Brookes trying to buy AGL and change it, saying they will intervene....so much for the free market hey


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tsf - 3 May 2022 9:52 AM
Remarkable these pricks - all about government staying out of free enterprise apparently, until it goes against their interest. 

Throwing their toys out the pram about Mike Cannon-Brookes trying to buy AGL and change it, saying they will intervene....so much for the free market hey


Enzo would be happy though. Free market intervention. That's what the libs are all about aren't they?

Oh and building and paying for a gas and a (proposed) coal fired plant that private enterprise wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. Socialism in action FTW!


As an aside I think water & power are two things the government should nationalise. No way either of those should have ever been allowed into private hands.  


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Not sure why the labour party doesn't hire this mob to do their ads.

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