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+x+x+x+x+x+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. Why dont they just let people stand in front of their fold down seats (I assume the stadium seating is fold down?) why this extra expense? I dont get the purpose. If its to prevent crowds crushing each other like the original intent to do away with standing only terraces, surely having seat rows is a better preventative? The barriers actually provide prevention. Seat backs don't. Prevention from what? Serious question? Crowd surging can cause death. The first question for someone doing a risk analysis is can the risk be eliminated? If it can be that is the action the person responsible for safety at the site must take. If it can't be then, how can the risk be minimised? ... and soon on down the hierarchy of acceptable actions that a so called "reasonable person" might take. Yeah I did a dig on the link and see what you mean... Awways thought that rows of fold up seating would be enough but looking at imagtes I get the fact they would be not as effective at preventing forward surge. Also I note that EPL stadiums seems to be gong one further and having these barriers AND fold down seats in the rows.... seems a much more elegant solution. I think if seats are included then the capacity of the row is limited by the number of seats whereas if there are no seats the capacity of the row can be calculated by the area of the platen. ie., you can increase the capacity of the standing area if you have no seats.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. Why dont they just let people stand in front of their fold down seats (I assume the stadium seating is fold down?) why this extra expense? I dont get the purpose. If its to prevent crowds crushing each other like the original intent to do away with standing only terraces, surely having seat rows is a better preventative? The barriers actually provide prevention. Seat backs don't. Prevention from what? Serious question? Crowd surging can cause death. The first question for someone doing a risk analysis is can the risk be eliminated? If it can be that is the action the person responsible for safety at the site must take. If it can't be then, how can the risk be minimised? ... and soon on down the hierarchy of acceptable actions that a so called "reasonable person" might take. Yeah I did a dig on the link and see what you mean... Awways thought that rows of fold up seating would be enough but looking at imagtes I get the fact they would be not as effective at preventing forward surge. Also I note that EPL stadiums seems to be gong one further and having these barriers AND fold down seats in the rows.... seems a much more elegant solution. I think if seats are included then the capacity of the row is limited by the number of seats whereas if there are no seats the capacity of the row can be calculated by the area of the platen. ie., you can increase the capacity of the standing area if you have no seats. Not by much though. Stadium seats are relatively narrow and even standing you need a certain amount of individual space.... I guess maybe this might add a couple of hundred "standing" room spaces but being constricted to 1 x row of people per standing terrace is the same result regardless.... Anyway, I guess its cheaper to do it without the seats so I get it, personally I like having the option to do both.
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Flytox
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. Why dont they just let people stand in front of their fold down seats (I assume the stadium seating is fold down?) why this extra expense? I dont get the purpose. If its to prevent crowds crushing each other like the original intent to do away with standing only terraces, surely having seat rows is a better preventative? The barriers actually provide prevention. Seat backs don't. Prevention from what? Serious question? Crowd surging can cause death. The first question for someone doing a risk analysis is can the risk be eliminated? If it can be that is the action the person responsible for safety at the site must take. If it can't be then, how can the risk be minimised? ... and soon on down the hierarchy of acceptable actions that a so called "reasonable person" might take. Yeah I did a dig on the link and see what you mean... Awways thought that rows of fold up seating would be enough but looking at imagtes I get the fact they would be not as effective at preventing forward surge. Also I note that EPL stadiums seems to be gong one further and having these barriers AND fold down seats in the rows.... seems a much more elegant solution. I think if seats are included then the capacity of the row is limited by the number of seats whereas if there are no seats the capacity of the row can be calculated by the area of the platen. ie., you can increase the capacity of the standing area if you have no seats. Not by much though. Stadium seats are relatively narrow and even standing you need a certain amount of individual space.... I guess maybe this might add a couple of hundred "standing" room spaces but being constricted to 1 x row of people per standing terrace is the same result regardless.... Anyway, I guess its cheaper to do it without the seats so I get it, personally I like having the option to do both. At CommBank Stadium they can set it up with seats or with safe standing. It takes them half a day or so to unbolt the barriers and put the seats back in. They generally only do it at the change of season.
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Flytox
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. Why dont they just let people stand in front of their fold down seats (I assume the stadium seating is fold down?) why this extra expense? I dont get the purpose. If its to prevent crowds crushing each other like the original intent to do away with standing only terraces, surely having seat rows is a better preventative? The barriers actually provide prevention. Seat backs don't. Prevention from what? Serious question? Crowd surging can cause death. The first question for someone doing a risk analysis is can the risk be eliminated? If it can be that is the action the person responsible for safety at the site must take. If it can't be then, how can the risk be minimised? ... and soon on down the hierarchy of acceptable actions that a so called "reasonable person" might take. Yeah I did a dig on the link and see what you mean... Awways thought that rows of fold up seating would be enough but looking at imagtes I get the fact they would be not as effective at preventing forward surge. Also I note that EPL stadiums seems to be gong one further and having these barriers AND fold down seats in the rows.... seems a much more elegant solution. I think if seats are included then the capacity of the row is limited by the number of seats whereas if there are no seats the capacity of the row can be calculated by the area of the platen. ie., you can increase the capacity of the standing area if you have no seats. Not by much though. Stadium seats are relatively narrow and even standing you need a certain amount of individual space.... I guess maybe this might add a couple of hundred "standing" room spaces but being constricted to 1 x row of people per standing terrace is the same result regardless.... Anyway, I guess its cheaper to do it without the seats so I get it, personally I like having the option to do both. Its about 25% increase in capacity.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIf this match can go without controversy about the crowd it’ll be a bloody good promotion for the league How do you figure mate? Which league is this a promotion for the NPL NSW that just finished or the Algeaue that just started (or has it not yet?) If an NPL side and a new franchise with barely any fans manages to get a better crowd/atmosphere to a final than the champions of professional Australia did earlier this year this will be an embarrassment to the APL rather than a promotion. I don’t care who plays or what league they are in the sport of football needs a decent crowd and story. It’s fooking lackluster atm The "sport" of football in this country is anything but lacklustre mate... Massive participation rates, 1000s of clubs all around the country, interest in never before seen numbers for overseas leagues and players.. Aleague maybe floundering but thousands attending Soceroos and Matildas games and the couple of million plus who will get up in the wee hours in Nov to cheer on the Socceroos is NOT lackluster.far from it...... That may be your first ever positive post on Australian football. Well done lad. Hahahah rubbish, and you know it :P You can blame me for whatever you want but cant say I dont worship at the alter of this stupid game of ours. Just not the Australian senior league.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. Why dont they just let people stand in front of their fold down seats (I assume the stadium seating is fold down?) why this extra expense? I dont get the purpose. If its to prevent crowds crushing each other like the original intent to do away with standing only terraces, surely having seat rows is a better preventative? The barriers actually provide prevention. Seat backs don't. Prevention from what? Serious question? Crowd surging can cause death. The first question for someone doing a risk analysis is can the risk be eliminated? If it can be that is the action the person responsible for safety at the site must take. If it can't be then, how can the risk be minimised? ... and soon on down the hierarchy of acceptable actions that a so called "reasonable person" might take. Yeah I did a dig on the link and see what you mean... Awways thought that rows of fold up seating would be enough but looking at imagtes I get the fact they would be not as effective at preventing forward surge. Also I note that EPL stadiums seems to be gong one further and having these barriers AND fold down seats in the rows.... seems a much more elegant solution. I think if seats are included then the capacity of the row is limited by the number of seats whereas if there are no seats the capacity of the row can be calculated by the area of the platen. ie., you can increase the capacity of the standing area if you have no seats. Not by much though. Stadium seats are relatively narrow and even standing you need a certain amount of individual space.... I guess maybe this might add a couple of hundred "standing" room spaces but being constricted to 1 x row of people per standing terrace is the same result regardless.... Anyway, I guess its cheaper to do it without the seats so I get it, personally I like having the option to do both. Its about 25% increase in capacity. Depends on what ratio that they are allowed to use. It may well be that the stadium safety certificate only allows 1.1.
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Australia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIf this match can go without controversy about the crowd it’ll be a bloody good promotion for the league How do you figure mate? Which league is this a promotion for the NPL NSW that just finished or the Algeaue that just started (or has it not yet?) If an NPL side and a new franchise with barely any fans manages to get a better crowd/atmosphere to a final than the champions of professional Australia did earlier this year this will be an embarrassment to the APL rather than a promotion. I don’t care who plays or what league they are in the sport of football needs a decent crowd and story. It’s fooking lackluster atm The "sport" of football in this country is anything but lacklustre mate... Massive participation rates, 1000s of clubs all around the country, interest in never before seen numbers for overseas leagues and players.. Aleague maybe floundering but thousands attending Soceroos and Matildas games and the couple of million plus who will get up in the wee hours in Nov to cheer on the Socceroos is NOT lackluster.far from it...... That may be your first ever positive post on Australian football. Well done lad. Hahahah rubbish, and you know it :P You can blame me for whatever you want but cant say I dont worship at the alter of this stupid game of ours. Just not the Australian senior league. That's not starting until 2024 now..... have been waiting for an Australian senior league for 18 years and counting now.
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+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. It's been in place for most Wanderers games since the stadium opened.
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+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark And 9500 of those are for SU58 with the Croatian Cup on next weekend based around Edensor Park
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+x+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. It's been in place for most Wanderers games since the stadium opened. Nice. I've only ever seen the bodies - not the framework.
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+x+x+xWow - never seen that before. That is a lot of infrastructure. It's been in place for most Wanderers games since the stadium opened. Nice. I've only ever seen the bodies - not the framework. It is actually only 2 bays and i think they allow a ratio of up to 1.5. It was quite a fight with the Eels not really wanting safe standing.
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+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark only 15k ? This should be selling out - No Excuses ...
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+x+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark only 15k ? This should be selling out - No Excuses ... just like how all the other previous Australia Cup finals have sold out? what makes this any different? Sydney United fans have done there part, not our problem macarthur dont have any fans. Would of been close to a sell out if it were WSW, Syd FC or Victory in my opinion.
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+x+x+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark only 15k ? This should be selling out - No Excuses ... just like how all the other previous Australia Cup finals have sold out? what makes this any different? Sydney United fans have done there part, not our problem macarthur dont have any fans. Would of been close to a sell out if it were WSW, Syd FC or Victory in my opinion. Hope you guys thump them. If not, get the lads to bring out the flares..... heheheheh
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+x+x+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark only 15k ? This should be selling out - No Excuses ... Sydney United fans have done there part, not our problem macarthur dont have any fans. Would of been close to a sell out if it were WSW, Syd FC or Victory in my opinion. I' m not saying SU fans are not doing their part. But FA should be promoting the you- know -what out of this to get a full house . Doesn' t it deserve one ? Yet it seems practically invisible ...
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+x+x+x+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark only 15k ? This should be selling out - No Excuses ... Sydney United fans have done there part, not our problem macarthur dont have any fans. Would of been close to a sell out if it were WSW, Syd FC or Victory in my opinion. I' m not saying SU fans are not doing their part. But FA should be promoting the you- know -what out of this to get a full house . Doesn' t it deserve one ? Yet it seems practically invisible ... You should listen to Townsend on sen today
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+x+x+x+x+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark only 15k ? This should be selling out - No Excuses ... Sydney United fans have done there part, not our problem macarthur dont have any fans. Would of been close to a sell out if it were WSW, Syd FC or Victory in my opinion. I' m not saying SU fans are not doing their part. But FA should be promoting the you- know -what out of this to get a full house . Doesn' t it deserve one ? Yet it seems practically invisible ... You should listen to Townsend on sen today So its going to sell out now ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhQ2CmM2aQELoved the Avondale Cup Tied feature showing old footage of Hume City juniors instead of their own fans hahahahah and the "fans" happened to be ex board members so glad they got shafted this year and last......
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAustralia cup website has just mentioned 10,000 tickets have been sold. hopefully another 5k gets sold, happy with the 15k mark only 15k ? This should be selling out - No Excuses ... Sydney United fans have done there part, not our problem macarthur dont have any fans. Would of been close to a sell out if it were WSW, Syd FC or Victory in my opinion. I' m not saying SU fans are not doing their part. But FA should be promoting the you- know -what out of this to get a full house . Doesn' t it deserve one ? Yet it seems practically invisible ... You should listen to Townsend on sen today So its going to sell out now ? Not like under the old FA with lowy when you to get crowds of + 30,000 and 40 000 every season God that was exhausting to type. Just imagine doing that 10 times a day for no reason whatsoever.
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Its Cup final eve.......so looking forward to this. Bring on the football and all the best SU right behind the part timers - what a effort getting here give it your all fellas.
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+xIts Cup final eve.......so looking forward to this. Bring on the football and all the best SU right behind the part timers - what a effort getting here give it your all fellas. I’ve got some mates coming over for the london derby so gonna try and put this on to “convert” them muhaha
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/old-soccer-and-new-football-collide-as-stars-align-for-australia-cup-final-20220928-p5bls4.htmlMacarthur FC defender Ivan Vujica can usually count on the support of his family as a given whenever he steps onto the field. But not this weekend. “Best-case scenario for my friends and family is me scoring a hat-trick, and them winning 4-3,” he laughed.
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+xIts Cup final eve.......so looking forward to this. Bring on the football and all the best SU right behind the part timers - what a effort getting here give it your all fellas. And SU58 at the northern end hopefully with safe standing in place
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I hope Sydney United win this i hope this is the 1st step to uniting old Soccer and New Football ⚽
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Been watching the intro on Channel 10 (Bold). It was good, I enjoyed it. Hopefully got plenty of eyeballs.
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30 seconds for welcome to country and get off.
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Is Welcome to Country being booed by fans?
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Crowd is fantastic there is 'real' atmosphere something the A L lacks even the Socceroos there is 'real passion credit to SU58 fans and the Croatian/Australian community - wish the FA would actually do something to try capture that passion at the top levels of football in Australia Verati
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+xIs Welcome to Country being booed by fans? Not sure but insanely disrespectful. I was uncomfortable watching that
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