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+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Fark man, stop pointing out the truth about society's warmth, many prefer to live in a fantasy world and think its all beautiful, like afl. Btw, welcome to country fellow citizens, even if you were born here, are land owners and pay hefty taxes that go to all sorts of causes, desirable or not. Be sure to come in, take your shoes off, stay alittle then kindly leave, as I don't want to put up with your visitation for too long. Have a great stay. To some, a smoke ceremony is seen as a pagan ritual. Not accepted by everyone, seen as woke as well, being imposed upon athletes, from here or overseas coming to compete, having to put up with it. Leave to keyboard warriors like you to tell us what the truth is. Truly sorry to try to make the world a better place instead of leaving at the status quo & see us continue down the same downward path.
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Ok I think this discussion has done it’s course. Mods lock it up see you in 23
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+xOk I think this discussion has done it’s course. Mods lock it up see you in 23 Lul wut?!
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+xDoes this fall under the "all news is good new??" 🤔 No . It doesn' t work like that for the Soccer ...
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+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Fark man, stop pointing out the truth about society's warmth, many prefer to live in a fantasy world and think its all beautiful, like afl. Btw, welcome to country fellow citizens, even if you were born here, are land owners and pay hefty taxes that go to all sorts of causes, desirable or not. Be sure to come in, take your shoes off, stay alittle then kindly leave, as I don't want to put up with your visitation for too long. Have a great stay. To some, a smoke ceremony is seen as a pagan ritual. Not accepted by everyone, seen as woke as well, being imposed upon athletes, from here or overseas coming to compete, having to put up with it. Leave to keyboard warriors like you to tell us what the truth is. Truly sorry to try to make the world a better place instead of leaving at the status quo & see us continue down the same downward path. A better place? Someone welcoming an Australian citizen by another Australian citizen Why? You are the sort of bloke that goes with any flow, just so you conform to anything that is thrown at you, a people pleaser. This country is everyone's not indigenous primarily. This is a woke thing. Let's have a European welcoming on the next occasion, something wholesome, and ceremonial. Why not? Infact let's cut to the chase, the Orthodox and Catholics burn incense and kiss icons of Saints, there are the Rosary beads and Mary, or the Eucharist drinking ceremony. A smoke ceremony for one, can be viewed as a culturally religious thing, It's not accepted by everyone as others have different beliefs to that kind of ceremony and don't want to partake. Still, booing is not my go.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYou gotta love Sydney United fans… They didn’t boo the welcome to country they booed the opposition.. They weren’t Nazi salutes they were waving hi to their nonnas… They weren’t chanting za don spremni they were singing “ we adore Sydney” They weren’t cans of zyklon b they were collecting money for charity… Does anyone honestly think certain Aleague fan groups would NOT have openly booed a middle aged bird waffling on about stuff they have no interest in? The same bloke who whinges like a crazy dog because his sad little ethnic team can't play in the top tier of football complains about our indigenous people having a right to have a say. Says everything about you. Maybe I should objectify young women like you eh you boring old fart? Yeah whatever!!!! I've got football to watch the A-league & the World cup, enjoy your Mediterranean games in the NPL you arsewipe. Tsk, tsk what would your elders, past, present and emerging have to say about such blatant racism? Doesnt sound very welcoming to me to describe a bunch of clubs founded by migrants to these shores so dismissively as "Mediterranean games" especially not the ones founded by Britons, North Macedonians, Portuguese for example. Keep spinning those wheels turbo, your outrage is only going to make the uniting of ALL clubs in Australia so much sweeter when/if it finally happens.... There is no outrage on my part, I'm going to the football this Saturday night to watch the mighty SFC smash those AFL loving Melbourians (victory). I'm going with all my Aussie mates, whose forefathers range from Portuguese, Serbian, English, Dutch, Croatian, Italian, Irish, Ukrainians & yes even a few Greeks, one or two even have some Aboriginal blood, but we all Aussies cheering for an Aussie team without feeling like a victim. Thats a lot of mates there turbo, sounds like you'll have a lot of fun. Hope they are not ALL imaginary and at least one or two of them are real people. Enjoy your "Super Blue Bash Bonanza" or whatever you plastics call the first round of your pretend summer series these days. For your sake I hope hooligans from the Cave or Horta dont decide to try and outdo the part timers from a poor little Mediterranean league and spoil the Aussie atmosphere for you. I doubt they could even if they tried, looked like those guys ringing cow bells and Mexican shirts for some reason only numbered like 300 or so max.... You are struggling mate, I'm sorry, no AFL, no NPL no Greece in WC (but then you should be used to that, even the pathetic Australian A -League has produced more WCs than Greece!!! Enjoy your mediocrity. NPL season just finished a month ago turbo, its called the off season, it will be back in Feb.... no biggie. In the meantime there is EPL, Serie A and Greek Super League on my telly so absolutely no struggle at all .... WC will be a fascinating watch too, looking forward to the A-League all stars performing on the world stage since you mention mediocrity.... Hope your multicultural friends dont get too disappointed by the "uniqueness"
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+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ......
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+xOk I think this discussion has done it’s course. Mods lock it up see you in 23 Its the only thread on here getting any comments dude.... Nobody seems too "excited" by the Aleague season starting in a couple of weeks do they?
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+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... Sure if South, United etc could consistently pull 5k at state league games and control the whippersnapper nazi element you could have a genuine conversation about coming into the A league. But those teams are soo far from that point they are not even a blip on the radar. It would be like telling an infant “this is what we need from you to be an astronaut.. show us what you can do”. FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... Sure if South, United etc could consistently pull 5k at state league games and control the whippersnapper nazi element you could have a genuine conversation about coming into the A league. But those teams are soo far from that point they are not even a blip on the radar. It would be like telling an infant “this is what we need from you to be an astronaut.. show us what you can do”. FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants. But your comparing state league comps against the chance to compete on a national stage with all advantages that brings. Some clubs absolutely CAN pull 5k in a national comp and are just looking for an avenue to be able to prove it.... All bias aside, do you not think that some of these old NSL clubs, playing against each other once more cant get better crowds than MacArthur vs Western United?.... C'mon...The "bulls" played their first ever final, int ehir own city, and had 300 "fans".. I get that the foreign investors want to protect their money at all costs and allowing those "pesky wogs" to even dream of coming back would be the last thing they would desire, but lets not pretend its all about the Benjamins mate.
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+x+xOk I think this discussion has done it’s course. Mods lock it up see you in 23 Its the only thread on here getting any comments dude.... Nobody seems too "excited" by the Aleague season starting in a couple of weeks do they? Its a couple of days, but who's counting. My wife is actually keen to go to the first Roar game for a number of years, given that it's at Suncorp. We were members several years ago! Even I have only been to 2 games out at Redcliffe.
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Reminds me of the good old day's, how it warms my heart. The funny thing is the same arguments are happening exactly the same as the NSL years, the rose tinted glasses have been removed and reality has come to bite a few people.
I thought it was a good game and Croatia United did really well, making a great statement of opportunity missed, There is a reason why the NSL failed and was rejected by the majority of the public, it seems people find it hard to learn or change.
Disappointing really, they just shot all the other NSL clubs in the foot who have aspirations when seemingly there was positivity about these clubs.
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+x+x+xOk I think this discussion has done it’s course. Mods lock it up see you in 23 Its the only thread on here getting any comments dude.... Nobody seems too "excited" by the Aleague season starting in a couple of weeks do they? Its a couple of days, but who's counting. My wife is actually keen to go to the first Roar game for a number of years, given that it's at Suncorp. We were members several years ago! Even I have only been to 2 games out at Redcliffe. Go the mighty Roar ...... good luck with the season ahead bloke, enjoy.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... Sure if South, United etc could consistently pull 5k at state league games and control the whippersnapper nazi element you could have a genuine conversation about coming into the A league. But those teams are soo far from that point they are not even a blip on the radar. It would be like telling an infant “this is what we need from you to be an astronaut.. show us what you can do”. FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants. I dont 'disagree' with the wider point you are making but lets be frank FFA/FA are doing an incredibly 'poor' job of making the A-League a commercial success Now that Foxtel has wiped its hands off us, we have managed to con Paramount and 10 into a 'good TV' deal but lets be honest bar the TV deal nothing is 'looking good' for the A league and chances are a 'good deal' wont happen again 10 have 'already' dropped the AL from its main channel... Attendance, Viewership, media etc the fact that more then half the football fans in Australia would say they 'dont watch the AL, it is shit' it embarrassing as we approach 2 decades of the competition. idiots on here can moan about fan behaviour which could pretty easily be stamped out by issuing bans, fines and point deductions - but the fact is and it is a 'scary' fact 98% of the people who 'turned up' to a Cup Final were not supporting the AL side. Those same 16k people would likely 'turned up' if SU58 were having a decent season more often then not during a season. I reckon WU/MacArthur/Nix combined wont average 16k this season if you only count home games and combined there attendance together) it isnt like the A L is 2-3 years in the league has been around almost 2 decades, if people cant see the current system is junk then ppl are idiots... semi-Armchair/fair weather/ casual fans is not going to keep the league going and that is what the A league is full off - WU/MacArthur imo have proven 'expansion' is a mistake we should be bring clubs with 'established' core fan bases into the league otherwise we might as well pack up the league now Football needs fans, it needs a promotion relegation structure to keep it from getting stale and getting in more emotional stakes, the current FA are not acting within the best 'commercial' business decision as the current structure will see us go bankrupt the numbers speak for themselves id rather have SU58 ban the small number of ppl who act with bad behaviour and have a viable team in the league then have another WU/MacArthur no fans no support and no cares side in it - i would argue the bad behaviour of 'some' fans is better then 'no fans at all' but the FA seem to be happy to have empty stadiums no atmosphere and a boring stale league
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... Sure if South, United etc could consistently pull 5k at state league games and control the whippersnapper nazi element you could have a genuine conversation about coming into the A league. But those teams are soo far from that point they are not even a blip on the radar. It would be like telling an infant “this is what we need from you to be an astronaut.. show us what you can do”. FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants. but the fact is and it is a 'scary' fact 98% of the people who 'turned up' to a Cup Final were not supporting the AL side. That's right. They were Croatian Australians, from all around Australia here for the weekend supporting Croatian nationalism. 90% of them won't be at a Sydney United game in the next 12 months, until the next Croatian cup.
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+x+x+x+xOk I think this discussion has done it’s course. Mods lock it up see you in 23 Its the only thread on here getting any comments dude.... Nobody seems too "excited" by the Aleague season starting in a couple of weeks do they? Its a couple of days, but who's counting. My wife is actually keen to go to the first Roar game for a number of years, given that it's at Suncorp. We were members several years ago! Even I have only been to 2 games out at Redcliffe. Go the mighty Roar ...... good luck with the season ahead bloke, enjoy. I love how you’re nice to people you don’t argue with 😂 enjoy the a league mate good on ya. When you’re arguing enjoy you’re plastic league you fairy
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Agree with most of your posts in this thread Davstar. Nazi salutes are a no go zone - those doing so should be banned period, easy enough with cctv coverage to find them. The chanting, I'm at a loss with that one for the Haka was mentioned, a pre going to war ritual that used to have a slit of the throat gesture that was changed in recent times, yet people admire it, I find why have they always had that opportunity pre game and its killing theme even edited. The Welcome opening, with Davstar, why at our sporting venues, its place is at start of every Parliment Fed and State sitting imo and or specific special indigenous occasions not a sporting one. This is bait for the idiot behaviour so avoid it. Booing or anything through anthems, I don't get why anyone can't just STFU and respect, how many times have we heard some idiot/s call things out during anthems. People should be calling those idiots down upon completion more than anything else....... Its something about Australia regards athems, having been to many countries and sporting venues you wouldn't dare behave like that. All what occurred can be dealt with and actions put in place to deal with it in the future, its not the end of the world.
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+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Spare me you’re condescending, ‘know your place wog and go sit in the naughty corner’ bullshit. South didn’t apply for a license initially as the ‘preferred candidates’ had already been chosen. Why would they bother then. Australia is probably the only country in the football world that has a racist promotion policy. No ‘wog’ club is allowed under any circumstance to be admitted, promoted, invited into its top flight. The door is firmly shut, fuck off basically. However your cevapi rolls and souvlakis are ok for FFA cup promotional purposes. The proof is in the pudding, a league hasn’t got too much time left going by crowds, interest, media, tv etc.
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+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Spare me you’re condescending, ‘know your place wog and go sit in the naughty corner’ bullshit. South didn’t apply for a license initially as the ‘preferred candidates’ had already been chosen. Why would they bother then. Australia is probably the only country in the football world that has a racist promotion policy. No ‘wog’ club is allowed under any circumstance to be admitted, promoted, invited into its top flight. The door is firmly shut, fuck off basically. However your cevapi rolls and souvlakis are ok for FFA cup promotional purposes. The proof is in the pudding, a league hasn’t got too much time left going by crowds, interest, media, tv etc. Mate before the FA the NSL clubs tried to 'dewog' themselves because they saw the commercial reality that appealing to a small subset of people was a death sentence for the league. It was well before the FA and the A League got involved that clubs were coerced/forced/chose to get rid of flags, emblems and names. Don't rewrite history.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... Sure if South, United etc could consistently pull 5k at state league games and control the whippersnapper nazi element you could have a genuine conversation about coming into the A league. But those teams are soo far from that point they are not even a blip on the radar. It would be like telling an infant “this is what we need from you to be an astronaut.. show us what you can do”. FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants. the numbers speak for themselves id rather have SU58 ban the small number of ppl who act with bad behaviour and have a viable team in the league then have another WU/MacArthur no fans no support and no cares side in it - i would argue the bad behaviour of 'some' fans is better then 'no fans at all' but the FA seem to be happy to have empty stadiums no atmosphere and a boring stale league Unfortunately numbers dont “speak for themselves”. It was literally one game, a good turnout but how many of those chest beating nazis would translate into regular paying customers? The same trend was seen in the NSL, big crowds for finals and derbies but when the cameras and bright lights disappeared so did the chest beaters. I agree the FFA isnt doing a great job at the moment, struggling for traction, too commercially focussed etc, but you dont solve a problem with reintroducing failed methods and philosphies. As I said before, the A league at its worst, plagued by covid, shut downs, inflations etc is still better than the NSL at its best. If the NSL was getting the crowds the A league is today you would be championing its success.
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+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of t he Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... It's not completely racially bias telling "others" to "fuck off we're full".... The Dutch were accepted to the A-League 🤫 Also, I recall something about a bunch of Irish lads in the NT forming a team called 'Darwin Rovers' several years ago. I believe there is also a team called 'Celtic' in Alice Springs. So not all football bodies in Australia are completely racially bias, the Irish seem to be welcomed in the Northern Territory 🇮🇪😄
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+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Australia is probably the only country in the football world that has a racist promotion policy. No ‘wog’ club is allowed under any circumstance to be admitted, promoted, invited into its top flight. The door is firmly shut, fuck off basically. When you can barely find a thousand bums to put on seats then your ”racist promotion policy” theory just sounds paranoid and delusional. Having a proud heritage and strong history isnt enough. Naturally a club that is in administration and on the verge of financial collapse wasnt going to be considered for an A league license. Nothing to do with race. 😅
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+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants. How they treated North Queensland Fury was disgraceful (IMO).
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+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Australia is probably the only country in the football world that has a racist promotion policy. No ‘wog’ club is allowed under any circumstance to be admitted, promoted, invited into its top flight. The door is firmly shut, fuck off basically. When you can barely find a thousand bums to put on seats then your ”racist promotion policy” theory just sounds paranoid and delusional. Having a proud heritage and strong history isnt enough. Naturally a club that is in administration and on the verge of financial collapse wasnt going to be considered for an A league license. Nothing to do with race. 😅 There are some truths to his comment (again IMO), and they shouldn't be brushed aside completely.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of t he Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... It's not completely racially bias telling "others" to "fuck off we're full".... The Dutch were accepted to the A-League 🤫 Also, I recall something about a bunch of Irish lads in the NT forming a team called 'Darwin Rovers' several years ago. I believe there is also a team called 'Celtic' in Alice Springs. So not all football bodies in Australia are completely racially bias, the Irish seem to be welcomed in the Northern Territory 🇮🇪😄 Its pretty daft to compare Lions with ethnic clubs like South and United. The Dutch community in Brisbane is tiny, there wasnt a Dutch flag, nationalist chant or Nazi symbol to be seen and the boards, juniors and staff were completely diversified. The Dutch element was confined to history rather than being an active presence. Contrast this with United and the Croatia flags, ustasi fascist chants, Sydney Croatia banners, nazi salutes, nationalistic chest beating. Maybe the Dutch community are more welcoming and inclusive than the Croats.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of t he Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... It's not completely racially bias telling "others" to "fuck off we're full".... The Dutch were accepted to the A-League 🤫 Also, I recall something about a bunch of Irish lads in the NT forming a team called 'Darwin Rovers' several years ago. I believe there is also a team called 'Celtic' in Alice Springs. So not all football bodies in Australia are completely racially bias, the Irish seem to be welcomed in the Northern Territory 🇮🇪😄 Its pretty daft to compare Lions with ethnic clubs like South and United. The Dutch community in Brisbane is tiny, there wasnt a Dutch flag, nationalist chant or Nazi symbol to be seen and the boards, juniors and staff were completely diversified. The Dutch element was confined to history rather than being an active presence. Contrast this with United and the Croatia flags, ustasi fascist chants, Sydney Croatia banners, nazi salutes, nationalistic chest beating. Maybe the Dutch community are more welcoming and inclusive than the Croats. Wasn't the inaugural CEO of the Roar a bloke surnamed Oudendyk? Sounds pretty Dutch to me. Also fan-banners in the early years reading 'DUTCH COURAGE'💡
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... Sure if South, United etc could consistently pull 5k at state league games and control the whippersnapper nazi element you could have a genuine conversation about coming into the A league. But those teams are soo far from that point they are not even a blip on the radar. It would be like telling an infant “this is what we need from you to be an astronaut.. show us what you can do”. FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants. the numbers speak for themselves id rather have SU58 ban the small number of ppl who act with bad behaviour and have a viable team in the league then have another WU/MacArthur no fans no support and no cares side in it - i would argue the bad behaviour of 'some' fans is better then 'no fans at all' but the FA seem to be happy to have empty stadiums no atmosphere and a boring stale league Unfortunately numbers dont “speak for themselves”. It was literally one game, a good turnout but how many of those chest beating nazis would translate into regular paying customers? The same trend was seen in the NSL, big crowds for finals and derbies but when the cameras and bright lights disappeared so did the chest beaters. I agree the FFA isnt doing a great job at the moment, struggling for traction, too commercially focussed etc, but you dont solve a problem with reintroducing failed methods and philosphies. As I said before, the A league at its worst, plagued by covid, shut downs, inflations etc is still better than the NSL at its best. If the NSL was getting the crowds the A league is today you would be championing its success. Back to the 'numbers' and you poor rebutle if you 'look at the other side of it' Last seasons average attendance for MacArthur and WU were just over 3k....i reckon South Melbourne F.C most of the bigger NPL clubs usually get a few 100 to a 1-2k a game and these are local semi-professional no marketing clubs. The Nix who have been in the AL since 2007 averaged just over 5k Brisbane Roar 6k whilst Perth Glory under 5k Both clubs have been in the league since its inception So please tell me 'spare' me the numbers 'dont speak for themselves' dibble because clearly they do if you want to argue that last season was COVID effected then if you go back to 2018 when (everything was normal) the entire league averaged just 'over' 10k - the leagues average peaked in 2007 which was 14.6k compare that to the last seasons average that was 5.6k do those numbers speak for themselves? Fuck me i take, fair criticism there is some 'bad behaviour' in the old NSL side that would need tobe stamped out but this 'blatant' head in the sand approach actually pisses me off it is not helpful for the game. - things are BAD change needs to happen - people saying well a NSD shouldnt happen because of a few individuals kind of shows how dumb the average person is here there WONT BE A 1st division if we dont shake things up.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYep, getting sick of these welcome to country ceremonies infiltrating every sporting, cultural and community event nowdays. Don’t see the need for them. They’re losing impact and kind of dragging on a bit like last night’s one did. Do you have a problem with the maori haka? Everyone seems to love it and has cultural significance in NZ. How is the Welcome to Country any different from an indigenous cultural perspective here? Football in Australia is known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world. Most of it is fantastic. Some of it is bad (ie. Sydney United on Saturday night). What our sport doesn’t do very well is getting our first nations people to play Football. Some of the skills they posses in other sports would suggest indigenous Australians would be great at Football. You only need to look as far as Sam Kerr of course. Embracing indigenous culture with things such as Welcome to Country at matches may get more of them interested in playing our sport, and that can only be a good thing. But if you wanna be a snowflake by getting triggered about random "woke" stuff (which is what people like you would label it as), that’s your problem. The rest of us will just get on with it. Yeah you’re 100% right about football in Australia being known for its embracing of cultures from all over the world……except if your club happens to have a Greek, Italian, Croatian, Macedonian or any other migrant background. In that case the well known racist phrase ‘fuck off we’re full’ applies to you. Football Australia hides behind all this inclusivity, diversity and WTC rubbish whilst clubs tagged ‘ethnic’ are left rotting away and made to feel like outsiders so spare me with your lets get more indigenous people involved in our beautiful and inclusive game. Cmon mate, those clubs could barely fill a trough let alone a football stadium. Everyone gets sentimental about the NSL but the reality is the A league at its worst is still better than the NSL at its best. Additionally you had ethnic and non ethnic clubs come and go ay the behest of a stiff breeze, the FFA just took that rationale and applied it to all the current clubs and found that only a few clubs were commercially fit, not un-ironically the clubs that didtn play on cow paddocks and could more than 2-3k bums on seats. From recollection South didnt even apply for a license or were under significant financial pressure at the time, therefore there was no protest at the time when they weren’t admitted. There’s nothing about the A league or FFA that says “fuck off we’re full” this is just mantra from die hard NSL aficianodes who hate the fact the game went mainstream and anglos stole their sport. Maybe the FFA could do a better job of honouring/recognising old soccer but thats pretty much what the Australia Cup is supposed to do.
Isnt the whole point of the Aleague being a closed off league, only expanding based on some fairly arbitrary "guidelines" and thinly veiled racist bias the very essence of "fuck off we're full"? Otherwise it would be "Here is what we need from you to be included ..... show us what you can do" ...... FFA makes commercial business decisions and most of it is based around sponsors, investors and advertising opportunity with particular emphasis on large population centres. Why ? this is where the money is. Its partly why my preferred A league team from Canberra hasnt seen any love, investors dont care about a small 400k capital city. They care even less about a small ethnic community who like to do nazi salutes and fascist chants. How they treated North Queensland Fury was disgraceful (IMO). Wasn't the deal-breaker for Lowy and Ben Buckley Krayem's stipulation for the Fury to convert to a member-owned model, which ran anathema to FFA's MO for the league(and obv still does)? That's how I read it at the time, so apologies in advance for any inaccuracies.
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+xAgree with most of your posts in this thread Davstar. Nazi salutes are a no go zone - those doing so should be banned period, easy enough with cctv coverage to find them. The chanting, I'm at a loss with that one for the Haka was mentioned, a pre going to war ritual that used to have a slit of the throat gesture that was changed in recent times, yet people admire it, I find why have they always had that opportunity pre game and its killing theme even edited. The Welcome opening, with Davstar, why at our sporting venues, its place is at start of every Parliment Fed and State sitting imo and or specific special indigenous occasions not a sporting one. This is bait for the idiot behaviour so avoid it. Booing or anything through anthems, I don't get why anyone can't just STFU and respect, how many times have we heard some idiot/s call things out during anthems. People should be calling those idiots down upon completion more than anything else....... Its something about Australia regards athems, having been to many countries and sporting venues you wouldn't dare behave like that. All what occurred can be dealt with and actions put in place to deal with it in the future, its not the end of the world. Exactly i mean it isn't hard to ban a few people it isn't like they are hiding there 'faces' the level of stupid ive read from hacks in the MSM over lets fact it a big crowd that alright i agree was disrespectful, there was no violence, no arrests etc i mean fuck me how many AFL games have happened were people gone to and some dad gets bashed in front of his kids and media barely talk about it - you got hawthorn f.c telling players to kill there unborn children shit but thats not 'big news' because its white guys with the last name Clarkson doing it so it is ok. GTFO im sick of the bullshit from fans and media - fuk me it was not to long ago the AFL executives were sexually exploiting female underlings now they are 'championing' the womens game. The media wont ever bring that back
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+x+x+x+x+xOk I think this discussion has done it’s course. Mods lock it up see you in 23 Its the only thread on here getting any comments dude.... Nobody seems too "excited" by the Aleague season starting in a couple of weeks do they? Its a couple of days, but who's counting. My wife is actually keen to go to the first Roar game for a number of years, given that it's at Suncorp. We were members several years ago! Even I have only been to 2 games out at Redcliffe. Go the mighty Roar ...... good luck with the season ahead bloke, enjoy. I love how you’re nice to people you don’t argue with 😂 enjoy the a league mate good on ya. When you’re arguing enjoy you’re plastic league you fairy Hahahahahahah I DO enjoy a good argument though :) Most important of all is that everyone, and I mean everyone is treated with a little bit of equality. Respect is earned but the fundamental right of every citizen in this country is to be able to express themselves how they see fit. People arguing against these poor, misguided fools are using the most racist, excluding language to defend against the very thing they pretend to hate... Sensationalist garbage. Ban the dildos with the nazi salutes, help the club educate its following on what is and isnt acceptable in Australia (and if they dont want to or can;'t then exclude them forever) and move on.... its not hard....
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