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numklpkgulftumch - 17 Oct 2022 9:49 PM
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CCM haven't been purchased, just a weird partnership for 3 years has been created

Unless I've missed something, the Adelaide sale hasn't actually happened.

Perth and Newcastle are both for Sale for years now and Brisbane would, if anyone ever met their price.

So, only 5 of the 12.

Richard Peil bought the Mariners from Mike Charlesworth. And this report suggests that the APL are doing due diligence on multiple ownership options for the Jets:

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7900989/jets-ownership-remains-in-holding-pattern-for-third-a-league-season/

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df1982 - 18 Oct 2022 2:40 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 17 Oct 2022 9:49 PM

Richard Peil bought the Mariners from Mike Charlesworth.

Not according to the actual words from the actual mouth of actual Richard Peil

FNR radio 21/7/22







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df1982 - 18 Oct 2022 2:40 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 17 Oct 2022 9:49 PM

And this report suggests that the APL are doing due diligence on multiple ownership options for the Jets:

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7900989/jets-ownership-remains-in-holding-pattern-for-third-a-league-season/

The link says it all.Its also paywalled so I can't tell if anything has changed.

Lets stick to facts if your claiming such and stop making misleading statements

If its just you guessing  or dreaming, try saying that.

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numklpkgulftumch - 18 Oct 2022 6:03 PM
df1982 - 18 Oct 2022 2:40 AM

Not according to the actual words from the actual mouth of actual Richard Peil

FNR radio 21/7/22







I can't tell since you haven't actually given a link, but this article suggests otherwise:

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/i-have-to-prove-myself-mariners-new-owner-learning-on-the-job-582654

Whatever the situation, Charlesworth is definitely gone and the Mariners aren't league-owned.
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numklpkgulftumch - 18 Oct 2022 6:12 PM
df1982 - 18 Oct 2022 2:40 AM

The link says it all.Its also paywalled so I can't tell if anything has changed.

Lets stick to facts if your claiming such and stop making misleading statements

If its just you guessing  or dreaming, try saying that.

I'm not making any misleading statements so don't try to claim that I did on the basis of a single newspaper headline.

The article says exactly what I said it did: there are multiple parties interested in buying out the Jets, and the APL are currently in the process of doing due diligence on them, which will take some time to carry out. Which is good, since you don't want a repeat of the Martin Lee situation.

That goes to prove my initial point, which is there are a lot of cashed-up groups out there interested in investing in the A-League.
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Rd 3
western vs bulls 2k
Newcastle vs Wellington 8k
wsw vs roar 11k
Melbourne derby 21k
Sydney vs Adelaide 11k
Ccm vs Perth 7k 
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df1982 - 19 Oct 2022 12:12 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 18 Oct 2022 6:12 PM

I'm not making any misleading statements so don't try to claim that I did on the basis of a single newspaper headline.

The article says exactly what I said it did: there are multiple parties interested in buying out the Jets, and the APL are currently in the process of doing due diligence on them, which will take some time to carry out. Which is good, since you don't want a repeat of the Martin Lee situation.

That goes to prove my initial point, which is there are a lot of cashed-up groups out there interested in investing in the A-League.

They did due diligence on Martin Lee.

This is the same story that has been spun for 3 years, so nothing has changed.

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df1982 - 19 Oct 2022 12:05 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 18 Oct 2022 6:03 PM

I can't tell since you haven't actually given a link, but this article suggests otherwise:

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/i-have-to-prove-myself-mariners-new-owner-learning-on-the-job-582654

Whatever the situation, Charlesworth is definitely gone and the Mariners aren't league-owned.

patjennings linked this youtube a few weeks ago that explains it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aGI3ppoqRq8

Like all news articles published the details are very vague for some reason

Charlesworth still owns license and the property assets.

In summary
Peil is covering the running costs for 3 years, hoping to sell $800k players per year, and if he hits KPI's can buy out Charlesworth then.

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It was always the case the Charlesworth was going to hold onto the property.
This is a really an important point, the owners own a license to participate in the A-League.
That is the thing of value they own, and what they will try to onsell at a profit.
Anything else, like property, is owned by the club owners, but the football team really only has access to that property at the behest of the owner, as soon as the license is sold, the football team no longer has any special association with the property, because it is not owned by the "club" - it's owned by the club owner - an important distinction.

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Melbcityguy - 19 Oct 2022 6:50 AM
Rd 3
western vs bulls 2k
Newcastle vs Wellington 8k
wsw vs roar 11k
Melbourne derby 21k
Sydney vs Adelaide 11k
Ccm vs Perth 7k 

WU v Bulls: 4,500 - (I talked last week how Melburnians prefer Friday night sport over Sunday afternoon, so their numbers should be a little better).
Jets v Nix: 9,000 (A win last week hopefully means a few extra turn up).
WSW v BR 9,000 (Should really be 15,000, but WSW fans are hopeless).
Derby: 27,000 (as stated on another thread, game is close to a sellout).
Sydney v Adelaide: 12,000 (big test for Sydney fans this week).
CCM v Perth: 6,500 (same same for CCM).
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Feed_The_Brox - 19 Oct 2022 9:11 AM
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WU v Bulls: 4,500 - (I talked last week how Melburnians prefer Friday night sport over Sunday afternoon, so their numbers should be a little better).
Jets v Nix: 9,000 (A win last week hopefully means a few extra turn up).
WSW v BR 9,000 (Should really be 15,000, but WSW fans are hopeless).
Derby: 27,000 (as stated on another thread, game is close to a sellout).
Sydney v Adelaide: 12,000 (big test for Sydney fans this week).
CCM v Perth: 6,500 (same same for CCM).

Is the Aleague promoting WU vs Macarthur as the Community Shield match? Current Champions vs Cup Winners? Either way you'd think with silverware in their portable cabinets then these non-effnik clubs should draw at least double a NPL final ---- at least 10K, anything less is just rubbish isn't  it? Or is it because some Melbournians prefer Friday night sport but not ALL Melbournians do. Maybe its still because of the floods or because of Covid, the Aleague civil war, over policing of fans, the bushfires two years ago perhaps?????  
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Monoethnic Social Club - 19 Oct 2022 5:23 PM
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Is the Aleague promoting WU vs Macarthur as the Community Shield match? Current Champions vs Cup Winners? Either way you'd think with silverware in their portable cabinets then these non-effnik clubs should draw at least double a NPL final ---- at least 10K, anything less is just rubbish isn't  it? Or is it because some Melbournians prefer Friday night sport but not ALL Melbournians do. Maybe its still because of the floods or because of Covid, the Aleague civil war, over policing of fans, the bushfires two years ago perhaps?????  

A Community Shield/Super Cup style match should be a stand-alone curtain-raiser for the season. It surprises me FA hasn't done this already, to be honest. It could be a tidy little earner as long as it's not the two expansion clubs with no fans playing in it.
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Feed_The_Brox - 19 Oct 2022 9:11 AM
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WU v Bulls: 4,500 - (I talked last week how Melburnians prefer Friday night sport over Sunday afternoon, so their numbers should be a little better).
Jets v Nix: 9,000 (A win last week hopefully means a few extra turn up).
WSW v BR 9,000 (Should really be 15,000, but WSW fans are hopeless).
Derby: 27,000 (as stated on another thread, game is close to a sellout).
Sydney v Adelaide: 12,000 (big test for Sydney fans this week).
CCM v Perth: 6,500 (same same for CCM).

Agree that this week's game is a big test for Sydney fans. Hopefully they can get at least 15k. Weather is a factor again, since rain is predicted, but probably less than the monsoonal storm that blighted the Big Blue.
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more rain sweeping across Eastern Australia over the weekend

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Monoethnic Social Club - 19 Oct 2022 5:23 PM
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Melbcityguy - 19 Oct 2022 6:50 AM

WU v Bulls: 4,500 - (I talked last week how Melburnians prefer Friday night sport over Sunday afternoon, so their numbers should be a little better).
Jets v Nix: 9,000 (A win last week hopefully means a few extra turn up).
WSW v BR 9,000 (Should really be 15,000, but WSW fans are hopeless).
Derby: 27,000 (as stated on another thread, game is close to a sellout).
Sydney v Adelaide: 12,000 (big test for Sydney fans this week).
CCM v Perth: 6,500 (same same for CCM).

Is the Aleague promoting WU vs Macarthur as the Community Shield match? Current Champions vs Cup Winners? Either way you'd think with silverware in their portable cabinets then these non-effnik clubs should draw at least double a NPL final ---- at least 10K, anything less is just rubbish isn't  it? Or is it because some Melbournians prefer Friday night sport but not ALL Melbournians do. Maybe its still because of the floods or because of Covid, the Aleague civil war, over policing of fans, the bushfires two years ago perhaps?????  

We all know it's rubbish.
Who are you ranting to? 

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Davide82 - 20 Oct 2022 11:02 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 19 Oct 2022 5:23 PM

We all know it's rubbish.
Who are you ranting to? 

:) Just questioning the logic is all ........

"WU v Bulls: 4,500 - (I talked last week how Melburnians prefer Friday night sport over Sunday afternoon, so their numbers should be a little better)."

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bettega - 19 Oct 2022 8:49 AM
It was always the case the Charlesworth was going to hold onto the property.
This is a really an important point, the owners own a license to participate in the A-League.
That is the thing of value they own, and what they will try to onsell at a profit.
Anything else, like property, is owned by the club owners, but the football team really only has access to that property at the behest of the owner, as soon as the license is sold, the football team no longer has any special association with the property, because it is not owned by the "club" - it's owned by the club owner - an important distinction.

That's the case with any number of overseas clubs though. That's why there were so many cases of English club owners personally profiting from selling the ground  and building a new one way out of town, under the guise of modernising facilities. Club ownership is a messy thing wherever you go, particularly since they are rarely profitable ventures in and of themselves.
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Melbcityguy - 19 Oct 2022 6:50 AM
Rd 3
western vs bulls 2k
Newcastle vs Wellington 8k
wsw vs roar 11k
Melbourne derby 21k
Sydney vs Adelaide 11k
Ccm vs Perth 7k 

On the money for the Fraudsters (WU) v Macarthur Bullsh1tters 2423.
Were the seagulls counted in that total?
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Paul01 - 22 Oct 2022 2:52 AM
Melbcityguy - 19 Oct 2022 6:50 AM

On the money for the Fraudsters (WU) v Macarthur Bullsh1tters 2423.
Were the seagulls counted in that total?

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Melbcityguy - 19 Oct 2022 6:50 AM

On the money for the Fraudsters (WU) v Macarthur Bullsh1tters 2423.
Were the seagulls counted in that total?

Seagulls, security and production crew 


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Incredibly, these two teams have won the most recently awarded major trophies in Australia.

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bettega - 22 Oct 2022 3:13 PM
Incredibly, these two teams have won the most recently awarded major trophies in Australia.

A  good    observation   bettega .

It    seems    a   lot   of  people   on   here   have  been   very   critical  of   the   current   FA    for   giving    WU  &   Macarthur    their   licences .

However  it   seems  that  a    lot    of   people    on  here   also   say    they   want    teams   to   be    judged   primarily  on  their    "on field "  performance .

So    which    is   it  ?
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23k at the Melbourne derby 
7k at Newcastle vs Wellington 
9.5k at wonderland vs Brisbane 
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Melbcityguy - 22 Oct 2022 11:54 PM
23k at the Melbourne derby 
7k at Newcastle vs Wellington 
9.5k at wonderland vs Brisbane 

an average of 13k across the 3 games which isn't too shabby

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Melbcityguy - 22 Oct 2022 11:54 PM

an average of 13k across the 3 games which isn't too shabby

The comp needs to rebuild and go further forward than ever before. Preceding this season was the three year covid era, just before that was the three year period of the federations vs FFA standoff, whereby the federations scratched, clawed and were overly determined to stay in the vile stoneage and hold the football code back for as long as possible, so fat fucks keep lining they're pockets. If its not about money, they have no interest.
That subject matter was thoroughly touched on back in the day.
WU need a home stadium, it better come next season whatever it looks like. Bring on the NSD cause I for one won't pay a ticket to watch a game yet, until there is real evidence of a true commitment that the game wants to move forward in ways that the fans and potential fans demand over many years. Otherwise for me personally, even though I do Paramount+ and Ch10, this football code and the pyramid system is too fractured to invest more substantially, for starters a season ticket. In the meantime, myself and some others watch on tv or do other things.
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bettega - 23 Oct 2022 9:42 AM
Melbcityguy - 22 Oct 2022 11:54 PM

an average of 13k across the 3 games which isn't too shabby

Good   grief   bettega  ,  calculating   "averages "   by   picking  and   choosing    games    amounting   to    half   a   round ?

C' mon   now .. .
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bettega - 23 Oct 2022 9:42 AM
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an average of 13k across the 3 games which isn't too shabby

And with the perennial low crowd clubs featuring on Friday night together, the average substantially pulled down.
Smurfs need to get 15k on a wet Sydney afternoon and the Mariners need to get 8K to obliterate the rubbish crowd for the Gallop/Fox Sports legacy of Western United Fraudsters and Macarthur Bullsh1tters.
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The   " new "   FA   gave   out   the    licences   to  WU   and   Macarthur  .

One    can   only   assume    they     were   satisfied    to   give    the    licences    to    WU   and   Macarthur .
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It is what it is, this is where the league currently finds itself, and while we might see occasional rises from year to year, I wouldn't be counting on seeing anything more than what we see now.
Wanderers has its new stadium, SFC now has its new stadium - this is as good as the league gets.

Also, a quick flick through the seasons from the very start will back up what I'm saying.

First four seasons of the new league, attendances were pretty solid all round.

Then the next three seasons we had the Gold Coast/Palmer seasons, and there was a noticeable dip.

Then Wanderers replaced GCU, and we experienced two relatively strong seasons after that.

Then we experienced 8 consecutive dips in attendances.

There will be a bump this season, maybe we get another one next season, or the season after, but this is it, this is where we are.  No one should be expecting some out-of-the blue jump  in metrics, it just won't happen.

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bettega - 23 Oct 2022 4:03 PM
It is what it is, this is where the league currently finds itself, and while we might see occasional rises from year to year, I wouldn't be counting on seeing anything more than what we see now.
Wanderers has its new stadium, SFC now has its new stadium - this is as good as the league gets.

Also, a quick flick through the seasons from the very start will back up what I'm saying.

First four seasons of the new league, attendances were pretty solid all round.

Then the next three seasons we had the Gold Coast/Palmer seasons, and there was a noticeable dip.

Then Wanderers replaced GCU, and we experienced two relatively strong seasons after that.

Then we experienced 8 consecutive dips in attendances.

There will be a bump this season, maybe we get another one next season, or the season after, but this is it, this is where we are.  No one should be expecting some out-of-the blue jump  in metrics, it just won't happen.

This league needs more interest, relevance. The establishment must eventually realize that it needs every support from all quarters. Not only a NSD, but sooner rather than later a Pro/Rel. This will bring back some big clubs and a new lot of supporters, more passion for the game. There is no forsight with these business types.
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