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+x+x+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). Interesting take, why would this stop the NSD from happening? Sam Krslovic was the president of Sydney Croatia (or at least on the board) when a few of these incidents have happened over the years but that didnt stop the FA from giving the bulls an ALeague license? Whats changed now? The difference is that from all accounts many of the AAFC clubs while supportive of a NSD do not have the money. Any issues that take away potential sponsorship from the NSD will put the whole concept in danger. I have heard that only 6 clubs are 'financial enough' AND want to commit to a NSD. (this number may be wrong but it is what I have heard). Those clubs were probably banking on a substantial increase in sponsorship dollars - does that now happen? Then you have the FA and what they think. Watching JJ through the game he looked very chastened. What choices does he have now? If there are only a few clubs ready and willing for a NSD and we need more youth playing at a higher level what are the alternatives. TBH I wanted a NSD and a reserve league. Now I can only see a reserve league and a few spots for AAFC clubs in ALM expansion (Firsts and Reserves). This also means the ALM will run it so 'football results' which should have been a prime consideration in the NSD will now be below geographic spread issues. Lets break this done some..... How could any NSD Club have any money up front until when/IF the new comp is confirmed going ahead. Be it a business or Club no entity can lock in any sponsership funding until all know formally whats ahead so thats moot. Myself as a business owner and say a potential sponser wouldn't commit to anything until you have concrete facts moving forward. The Final behaviour wouldn't change my mind - for eg NRL AFL have had heaps of questionable behaviour haven't they, sponsers have gone and others take their place. As for JJ, surely of the big picture you wouldn't change your course of plan over what occurred. In fact it would have been a good insight. I'd expect he would make sure whats included in the pending NSD Club contracts is crowd control directives and actions in countering that type of behaviour incl massive fines etcetc...... Anything else is peer pressure cop out. If anything but the NSD doesn't go ahead its fail.
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6 financial clubs is a rumour solely from an an anonymous AL fan twitter account
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+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). That is throwing the baby out with the bathwater mate. NSD will still go ahead but there will be stricter restrictions placed on clubs regarding this sort of stuff. It also will likely mean new teams/bids will be more closely considered. They wont take away a development stream for the whole country just because of one teams actions
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TBH the government should help fund it. FFS, see the money they threw at AFLW?
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+x+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). That is throwing the baby out with the bathwater mate. NSD will still go ahead but there will be stricter restrictions placed on clubs regarding this sort of stuff. It also will likely mean new teams/bids will be more closely considered. They wont take away a development stream for the whole country just because of one teams actions Maybe - or they will look at alternatives
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+xTBH the government should help fund it. FFS, see the money they threw at AFLW? They gave News Corp 40 mil to cover it Thats a great idea. They should have a "welcome to country" ceremony at every ground prior to each mach...
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+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). Interesting but quite valid points you make Pat.
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+x+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). Interesting but quite valid points you make Pat. BIG MEETING IN SYDNEY TONIGHT!!!!!!! https://twitter.com/aafclubs/status/1582870350882574337?s=46&t=bQkxckP7W6BhS9mpERVHyQ
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+x+x+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). Interesting but quite valid points you make Pat. BIG MEETING IN SYDNEY TONIGHT!!!!!!! https://twitter.com/aafclubs/status/1582870350882574337?s=46&t=bQkxckP7W6BhS9mpERVHyQ whilst using a great club with their advertising :cool:
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+x+x+x+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). Interesting but quite valid points you make Pat. BIG MEETING IN SYDNEY TONIGHT!!!!!!! https://twitter.com/aafclubs/status/1582870350882574337?s=46&t=bQkxckP7W6BhS9mpERVHyQ whilst using a great club with their advertising :cool: Hope they all meet up for a feed at King Tom later ....... :P
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+x+xTBH the government should help fund it. FFS, see the money they threw at AFLW? They gave News Corp 40 mil to cover it Thats a great idea. They should have a "welcome to country" ceremony at every ground prior to each mach... Agreed. should have it in the NSD as well. First game Sydney United vs Melbourne Knights
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+x+x+xTBH the government should help fund it. FFS, see the money they threw at AFLW? They gave News Corp 40 mil to cover it Thats a great idea. They should have a "welcome to country" ceremony at every ground prior to each mach... Agreed. should have it in the NSD as well. First game Sydney United vs Melbourne Knights Sorry, first game will be South Melbourne v Adelaide City ........ hahahahahahah
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I'd sooner APIA vs SU :) Good to see this meeting going on today and feedback later in the day. Lets Go you good thing please bloody finally..
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On that same tweet, there's an image of the clubs involved in the meeting. Now that might be quite accurate because I think these are the original AAFC clubs that put their names to a report from 5 years ago, but it might be pretty close to the mark: 
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its the same bettega by the look of it. Some of the smaller ones may have dropped out who knows in saying that.
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+xOn that same tweet, there's an image of the clubs involved in the meeting. Now that might be quite accurate because I think these are the original AAFC clubs that put their names to a report from 5 years ago, but it might be pretty close to the mark: It's a screen shot from the Feb 2022 NSD proposal by the AAFC They are the clubs putting in to the development of the Proposal. NOT necessarily the clubs who want to or will end up applying for the NSD model and criteria that FA decide on.
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+x+x+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). Interesting but quite valid points you make Pat. BIG MEETING IN SYDNEY TONIGHT!!!!!!! https://twitter.com/aafclubs/status/1582870350882574337?s=46&t=bQkxckP7W6BhS9mpERVHyQ Why am I reminded of Longshanks' invitation to the Scottish nobles to a parlay?
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+x+x+x+xWhat most people didn't want in a NSD was ALM youth teams. These actions almost certainly mean the current concept of a NSD is now dead in the water. That is not fault of the FA or the AAFC. I do blame the club and Football NSW as well as many in the media (with connections with the club) claiming they didn't know what goes on at the club.
TBH I suspect the ALM will now look at their own expansion AND an introduction of a Reserve league (mostly youth) run as part of the ALM. Put simply - a NSD will not happen now unless there is real and meaningful change at SU58 and other clubs that what to act similarly. Yes it was foreseeable (wasn't the lawnmower blades incident this season as well) I will not discount existing NPL clubs being part of the expansion at all - in fact I would welcome it. But while there were few that could afford to play in a NSD there will be less in an expanded ALM (especially if they have to fly around reserve teams as well). Interesting but quite valid points you make Pat. BIG MEETING IN SYDNEY TONIGHT!!!!!!! https://twitter.com/aafclubs/status/1582870350882574337?s=46&t=bQkxckP7W6BhS9mpERVHyQ Why am I reminded of Longshanks' invitation to the Scottish nobles to a parlay? mate, Ive youd seen some of the heads involved in this you wouldnt be granting "Prima Nocta" I can guarantee you that. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH
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Well it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread
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+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’.
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+x+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’. What do you think that means?
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+x+x+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’. What do you think that means? Perhaps prospective NSD clubs don't want 2024 to push back another 2-3 years for no good reason.
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+x+x+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’. What do you think that means? The phrase perfect is the enemy of good is often used to describe how people can get caught up in making things perfect and — as a result — never get anything done. Its most appropiate. In saying that at least its quoted Home and Away comp.
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+x+x+x+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’. What do you think that means? The phrase perfect is the enemy of good is often used to describe how people can get caught up in making things perfect and — as a result — never get anything done. Its most appropiate. In saying that at least its quoted Home and Away comp. And yet FA get Nothing done, by design. It is very apparent that they are trying to get alot closer to 2034 because of contractual clauses in place. Constant delays letting things slide, not getting the NSD over the line. After the EOI's, why does everyone wait till 2024? Also, What End of 2024 will the NSD begin, the Begining or the Ass End of 2024, so 2025?
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+x+x+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’. What do you think that means? That if you are waiting for all your ducks to be exactly in a row nothing will ever happen. All these blokes all over facebook and twitter 'we need to get the A league right and profitable before we even think about an NSD etc etc'
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lol when the ALM will be right and profitable.....randoms. Todays world - all talk and nothing happens. Nothing kicks off perfectly yet people today expect so ffs. JJ, wake up and stand your ground, force the agenda thats being the CEO, stop pandering to the sides of resistance and political correctness. Your the head, start talking the talk and deliver.
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It looks like progress, FFA is happy for everyone to think progress is being made, but the reality is that progress is minimal, which suits the FFA, and in particular, it suits their most important constituents.
Put it this way, the original article was written by Michael Cockerill 5 years ago (yes - that Michael Cockerill!).
After much bluster, committee meetings, focus groups, conversations, etc - they are looking at a 2024 start, but with very little having been worked out in terms of details, meaning that 2024 start is every bit as fluid as the original 20-21 start was back in the day.
Reading between the lines, it's clear that the AAFC and the FFA have not been on the same page for 5 years now, although it looks like they are as close to a meeting of minds as they have ever been (but that's not necessarily saying a lot either).
Also, whenever anyone with anyone clout starts saying stuff like: "let's make sure all the A-League clubs are financially viable first", well, it doesn't take a lot to work out that that's a formula for pushing out all major structural changes indefinitely, because in truth, it's almost impossible to reach a situation where 100% of your clubs are financially viable (it has never been reached in the NRL and AFL, so why would any other national league be any different?) - that position will clearly not be reached within this broadcast deal, and let's be honest, the next deal will be no better.
Let us all hope that 2024 is indeed the start date...but don't hold your breath either.
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+x+x+x+x+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’. What do you think that means? The phrase perfect is the enemy of good is often used to describe how people can get caught up in making things perfect and — as a result — never get anything done. Its most appropiate. In saying that at least its quoted Home and Away comp. And yet FA get Nothing done, by design. It is very apparent that they are trying to get alot closer to 2034 because of contractual clauses in place. Constant delays letting things slide, not getting the NSD over the line. After the EOI's, why does everyone wait till 2024? Also, What End of 2024 will the NSD begin, the Begining or the Ass End of 2024, so 2025? Stop with the fake 2034 claim
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWell it looks like the fa model is now pretty similar to the aafc model but they are saying 2024 kickoff from this tweet thread From that thread. The clubs are grateful to FA for its diligence and commitment, as well as its recognition of the work done by AAFC in informing the key elements of this key new national competition.
We are mindful, however, that ‘the perfect is the enemy of the good’. What do you think that means? The phrase perfect is the enemy of good is often used to describe how people can get caught up in making things perfect and — as a result — never get anything done. Its most appropiate. In saying that at least its quoted Home and Away comp. And yet FA get Nothing done, by design. It is very apparent that they are trying to get alot closer to 2034 because of contractual clauses in place. Constant delays letting things slide, not getting the NSD over the line. After the EOI's, why does everyone wait till 2024? Also, What End of 2024 will the NSD begin, the Begining or the Ass End of 2024, so 2025? Stop with the fake 2034 claim So why do they never get round to it and keep putting off progress you bad girl? 2034 2034 2034 baby!!
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http://www.nataliesuleyman.com.au/media-releases/better-community-spaces-for-croatian-victorians/Somer's street getting a well needed upgrade - if labour win state election WMG getting state government handout - if liberals win state election. I know who Im voting for :)
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