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Not that I need to gain the support of the few people in here with their head in the sand - but the evidence of 911 being that of an independent inside organisation within government completely outweighs the cock and bull story feed to us like chicken feed by the Bush administration. Most of you were impressionable little kids in 2001, I was 18 and remember everything in detail.
1. Bush needed a reason to invade Iraq. Prior to 911 there was no reason. The very first country Bush blamed was Iraq - but Richard Clarke who worked for the government and had just published a book about terrorism turned the focus back to Afghanistan and Bin Laden and the Iraq war was deferred until Bush vowed to defend the 'axis of evil' and went for Iraq anyway for the infamous 'weapons of mass distruction' that were never found. Bush ignored the UN security council and and invaded Iraq anyway - no surprises there.
2. NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) - Is a security system that scans the airways across Canada and the USA for the first time ever since it began in the cold war days 'malfunctioned' on Sept 11 2001. There was nothing guarding the airways on that day for the first time in NORADS history. This is FACT.
3. When US was in lock down and all aircraft was grounded - there was one plane that was allowed to leave and it carried the Bin Laden family. This is documented FACT. Bin Laden is not just a cave man you see - his family are royalty billionaire oil barons - just like Bush.
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socceroos_fan
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Lol i didn't say i beleived them or anything...they're just 'Theories' which is what this thread is about...I'm torn between whether 9/11 was or not but i'm just getting both sides (no matter how stupid or coincidental one side may seem to be).
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avy1990
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Guest wrote:http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20341165-5007191,00.html Pfft. Of course they have all the answers ready for the questions. Its all part of the coverup i tells ya.
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socceroos_fan wrote:1. Open up a blank Word document. 2. Type in Q33 NY in capitals (this is the flight number of the 1st plane to hit the WTC) 3. Highlight it. 4. Change the font size to 48. 5. Change the actual font to wingdings (1).  You do realise this isn't actually true? None of the planes involved in the 9/11 attacks had the flight number "Q33 NY". "Q33 NY" has nothing to do with any of the planes involved. It's simply made up. This is what V9.11 actually is in the Quran: Quote:But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand. The actual loose change bullshit I'm not even going to bother with. http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18Go there, download: 9-11 Loose Change Second Edition Viewer Guide And read it. I think the easiest way to show bullshit is by seeing the dozens of variant theories about "what hit the pentagon". You will get "Global Hawk Drone". "Tomahawk Missile". "USAF Cargo Plane". "Passenger Jet with all the passengers taken out and flown remotely." "Gulf Stream Jet". Edited by macktheknife: 2/6/2009 12:50:59 AM
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GazGoldCoast
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The problem with 911 conspiracies is that there are by now too many variations. If you accept all of them, they soon begin to conflict. It's better to carefully examine the proven facts, and then you can see the glaring holes in the official explanations.
You don't need to construct a "conspiracy theory", just keep asking the right questions.
Edited by Gazgoldcoast: 1/6/2009 11:26:48 PM
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imnofreak
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Not convincing at all sfan. Think about the plethora of numbers involved here. About the hundreds of different combinations. The chance that there would be NO relationship to the simple numbers of 9 and 11 is virtually 0.
Yes, coincidence is much more likely than we imagine it to be. Look at all the relationships with the assasinations of Kennedy etc. It is just that, COINCIDENCE. Stop being foolish.
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socceroos_fan
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Yeh same. Just thought i'd use it to 'convince' imno lol.
I don't really know whether or not i think it was a conspiracy. I think well "I can't see a govt. ever doing such a thing" but then i realise that it's America...
All this conspiracy talk is making me sleepy...I'm off. :)
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avy1990
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I've read all that before, its nuts
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socceroos_fan
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Lol Some guy has a lot of time: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/wingdings-911.html wrote:Subject: FW: number11
Amazing! Do exercise at end
This is SO weird!!!!
THIS IS REALLY FREAKY!
1) New York City has 11 letters
2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.
3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy
the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.
4) George W Bush has 11 letters.
This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:
1) New York is the 11th state.
2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.
3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11
4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5=11
5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9+1+1=11
6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9+1+1=11.
Sheer coincidence..?!
Read on and make up your own mind:
1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2+5+4=11.
2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2+5+4=11.
3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3+1+1+2+4 =11.
4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.
Now this is where things get totally eerie:
The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:
''For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allahand lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."
That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.
Still unconvinced about all of this..?!
Try this and see how you feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:
Open Microsoft Word and do the following:
1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.
2. Highlight the Q33 NY.
3. Change the font size to 48.
4. Change the actual font to WINGDINGS
What do you think now..?!
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socceroos_fan
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1. Open up a blank Word document. 2. Type in Q33 NY in capitals (this is the flight number of the 1st plane to hit the WTC) 3. Highlight it. 4. Change the font size to 48. 5. Change the actual font to wingdings (1).
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avy1990
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socceroos_fan wrote:That money thing with 9/11 helped convince me too. And the numbers of the plane in the font of windings. :-s Whats the wingdings thing?
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imnofreak
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:roll:
I am not convinced. Convince me. With no bullshit for once, please.
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socceroos_fan
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That money thing with 9/11 helped convince me too. And the numbers of the plane in the font of windings.
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marconi101
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An independent documentary series. They have made several versions, look for them on Youtube. Edited by marconi101: 1/6/2009 10:36:24 PM
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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avy1990
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marconi101 wrote:Have you watched Loose Change? That convinced me.
The Flight 93 footage is weird, there are no bodies, blood or significant debris.
Edited by marconi101: 1/6/2009 10:26:07 PM Nah, I havent. Is it a movie or something?
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marconi101
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Have you watched Loose Change? That convinced me. The Flight 93 footage is weird, there are no bodies, blood or significant debris. Edited by marconi101: 1/6/2009 10:26:07 PM
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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avy1990
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Yeah, as I said I am 100% convinced it was work of the Government.
I still remember watching it too. But then i was enthralled with it
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marconi101
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No sarcasm involved here. 9/11 was a conspiracy. The enire damaged area of the Pentagon is smaller then the plane that hit it, and before the outer wall collapsed, only one hole could be seen and it was only 16ft wide. Also the blowouts on the sides of the Twin Towers as they fell is a clear indication of controlled demolition.
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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avy1990
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Inspired by Funky's Plane thread. Whats everyone's favourite conspiracies etc. Post them. I'm completely behind the fact that Sept 11 was one. I'm looking at the Pentagon pics now.  How the hell did a plane only cause that?, With no fuel around, No fuselage etc.
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