So who is the next socceroos coach?

Let France dictate after we conceded did as they please no pressure on them they build from the back that was disappointing back for we're atrocious school boy stuff poor marking we we're 1 versus 2 and still they won the ball.Mooy big disappointment gave the ball away to much.

The 3rd goal though. Ryan's on his line and Mbappe is about 7m away from the goal. I hardly think he's going to try and come out there with two centre backs there.

The 4th is somewhat similar. I don't know why Ryan doesn't attempt a dive there. It's a very swift header from close range.

Thankfully Ryan made a very good save at the end. Feeling vindicated by hindsight is a foolish mindset. Who knows what another keeper would've done. 

It's disappointing that there seemed to be no strategy at all. Apart from the (great) first 20 min, we were always in two minds on whether to press or park the bus. We ended up doing neither. The second half was really hard to watch. 

Makes one pine for the glory days of Bert Van Marwijk. We were disgustingly dour and couldn't score, bit at least we were tough to break down. 

Yeah, that's the problem with Australian football, not the fact that player development has been in a death spiral since 2005

What was that???
The mid was in the defensive line the whole game

Let France dictate after we conceded did as they please no pressure on them they build from the back to much respect , back four we're atrocious school boy stuff poor marking we we're 1 versus 2 and still they won the ball.Mooy big disappointment gave the ball away to much.

Yeah, blame everyone and everything except Arnold and Ryan. I'm genuinely asking, why are they so untouchable and beyond reproach in your view? 

Completely agree. What happened to Arnold’s statement about being physical and putting pressure on France. Instead we sit back in a 451, dropping deeper and deeper all the time, and then when we do win the ball the first move is to pass backwards. Have to agree with Kewell’s comments about needing more movement from players forward if the ball when we are in possession and looking to turn France around. Too easy for France facing forward all the time, not having to worry about players running in behind.
 

Ryan is no good anyway if his back line are complete an utter shit. You've seen that in  patches in the EPL. Souttar started well, played well. Rowles and Atkinson though, its no wonder we still get to see Behich every bloody WC cycle. Pretty sure nobody in Australian coaching fraternity knows what a good RB/LB looks like

It's very disappointing how we stepped of the gas. Don't know what was up with that. The first two goals were shocking lapses of concentration.

There was the moment just before the third where we had to make some subs. I wish Devlin had come on around then. Cummings not involved much.

I'd like to know what the instructions and plan were around those stages. 

Can Arnold just piss off already. 

Look I can agree with a lot of that - but France are an awesome team even without some players missing the world cup. We were spanked and to be honest I think the score flattered us.

It's disappointing when reminded of the reality that the Socceroos will never be a footballing power of any kind..ho hum.

On a positive note Garang Kuol is now secured as future Socceroo at least. Nice assist Leckie. Good goal Goodwin. France just way too brilliant

I mean Rowles and Souttar have never played with each other before. Injured again but having Elder out there would offer a pretty decent alternative to Behich.

We can only speculate how we may have been with Boyle. 

It's good Bosnich is asking the tough questions. Robbie Slater may have his say or piece but the press have been way too quite or Arnold compared to Ange. It's bloody disappointing at times that the own house isn't in order. 

I don't feel tonight was an implosion though. Maybe it's because we scored or France were really just excellent. We move on to the next game. 

There is a stark contrast between how Saudi Arabia changed their football and how the FFA have done since it came in as the governing body. 

The Saudis were always a technically gifted footballing nation but lacked the mentality and physicality to compete on the world stage. 

The Australians were always a mentally strong and physically footballing nation but lacked tactical and technical prowess. 

The Saudis have obviously fixed their side by improving on their physical & mental side of the game. 

The FFA through the baby out with the bathwater by shutting down the AIS and ushering in a development curriculum that wiped away our only strengths as a footballing nation in favour of technique which they have obviously failed to implement. 

The FFA have royally fucked Australian Football. 

I reckon we lacked leadership out there bigtime to add to that no physicality and in your face attitude.

I find him a very simplistic commentator - don't do what you did and that won't happen. Where he does shine is asking the 'long-term' questions. We got spanked by a quality side. Why are they a quality side and what can Australia do the eventually emulate that? I doubt anything will change in that regard - but they are the questions that need to be addressed.

 

Yes true yet tonight Foster shyed away from any of that. Foster likes being the eternal optimist.

I would rather miss out on qualifying for a WC if it meant a big shake-up in how we organise the game here and how the NT is managed, which leads to improved performances at WC compared with what we've seen for the last decade.

Watching our goal over and over. Very enjoyable and well played. Great pass by Souttar. There's so much work to do. A more scrutinised time will come for Arnold but the evidence is clear it's time for a change. I appreciate what he's done but it feels too much of an anchor. 

First two French goals in particular avoidable. Perhaps a fit Karacic gets to Mbappe on the 4th. I found us standoffish which saw the 3rd also creep through.

King is too raw to replace Behich but I'm so done with him after this tournament. 

Is this just matter in the universe and butterfly effect? It seems Leckie's cross was deflected by Rabiot. Konate was busy on Duke which was probably the correct thing. God Pavard looked bad there. Was with Goodwin and trotted into the dome. He went to cover McGree.

Having all this football at once is incredibly insightful. 

Looking at todays game I would have been dejected too.  As a keeper you rely on the defenders putting pressure on the attacker that limits the attackers options on where they can strike at goal.  That allows the keeper to adjust his position and or react to his advantage.  Today the French players could chose where they could place the ball into the net because they were invariably under very little pressure and they were close in which makes it doubly hard for the keeper.  In order to make a save today Ryan had to rely on a weak or misplaced effort.

Ryan has his faults as a keeper just like every keeper has.   In my view Ryan is a bit too reactive.  He sets himself and seems to wait that fraction of a second trying to see where the ball is going before starting to move to it.  That reduces the area that he can cover which is critical especially with shots taken from close in.  I think he needs to become more intuitive.

Agree 100%.

Matt Ryan was awful again. It was tortured to watch unlike Australia - Netherlands in 2014

Miss out in the world cup?!  How is it gonna make thing shake up?  To miss out would only make things  go backwards.

I said it so many times you cant play out from the back against these guys, just fucking boot the - oops, I just ate my own poop... Jesus Christ.

This makes the assumption we learn from our mistakes. Been in the game for a long time and am yet to see us build for the future. I think some English commentator said it best "Aus football always seems to be in existential crisis". 

Exactly.. playing the best team in the world qjo we are going to concede a tonne of possession to... wtf would we not pick objectively our best shot stopper to start, let alone even make the squad?! 

In qualifying against say a Thailand who'll play on the break can 100% see why we'd play ryan but not against France when we have a great shotstopper in langerak