WC 2022: Other groups match and prediction thread


WC 2022: Other groups match and prediction thread

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Morroco talk about punching.
If I heard right only Canada have put 1 by then 
Drew with Croatia 
Beat Belgium and Spain.
What a Cup for them - doubt they’ll get over Portugal next.

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like to see port v eng in the semi. always a belter when those two play
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LFC. - 7 Dec 2022 8:13 AM
Morroco talk about punching.
If I heard right only Canada have put 1 by then 
Drew with Croatia 
Beat Belgium and Spain.
What a Cup for them - doubt they’ll get over Portugal next.

1/4 finals always a tough match, the cream rising to the top.

How good was Felix today, what a player, Ramos  did very well. They looked very good today.

Best thing for Portugal, is Germany out & Portugal always loses to Germany & Pepe (great goal) always gets sent off.


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yer would be a beauty but likely Port vs France.

All these Qrtr's are pretty damn good, all I'm seeing is Brazil,France Port wins and the Dutch Agries I'm on the fence, Messi vs VVD.


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robbos - 7 Dec 2022 8:46 AM
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1/4 finals always a tough match, the cream rising to the top.

How good was Felix today, what a player, Ramos  did very well. They looked very good today.

Best thing for Portugal, is Germany out & Portugal always loses to Germany & Pepe (great goal) always gets sent off.


Interesting looking at the stats are close, I thought Swiss left alot of space for Port to play but expected playing 5backs, all about the execution, very happy for Ramos a hat trick no mean feat in a WC.


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LFC. - 7 Dec 2022 8:54 AM
robbos - 7 Dec 2022 8:46 AM

Interesting looking at the stats are close, I thought Swiss left alot of space for Port to play but expected playing 5backs, all about the execution, very happy for Ramos a hat trick no mean feat in a WC.

Where is MSC with the Portugal is overrated comment. No Cancelo, Neves & Ronaldo today, shows depth, with Leao coming on as a sub, strong depth.

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Would love to see Croatia do Brazil 
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NicCarBel - 6 Dec 2022 9:17 PM

Why is that a surprise? They were the biggest two republics in Yugoslavia.

The best yugo team was full of Bosnians though (1990, tragically got knocked out on penalties by Argentina in the QF).

Was more of an ignorant surprise, as it wasn't something that dawned on me until I saw it.
The full split up of this PES squad ended up being:
Serbia 11
Croatia 7
Bosnia 3
Slovenia 1
Kosovo 1

Did the same with the Soviet Union team made on that mod, and got:
Russia 10
Ukraine 8
Georgia 4
Belarus 1
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I got France vs Brazil final, as much as I like the great man in Lionel Messi to win one I dont he's team are capable of beating Brazil they might even struggle to beat the Netherland whom like Australia will give them a tough tactical battle but have the quality to hurt them.

Portugal will make the semi's and beat Morocco who did very beat to go through against Spain via penalties, great to see them be the first ever Arabic speaking to make the quarter finals at a World Cup but I think Portugal will be too good.
Progression for the world game to a new country make the last 8 in the world though.

Spain's style of play as much its good to watch, it can easily become predictable when you can figure out to stop them and created very little in the last 2 games after their promise against Costa Rica.
I can see Luis Enrique moving on and as I dont think he can improve them with how they play, if anything they need to evolve.
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tsf - 7 Dec 2022 9:59 AM
Would love to see Croatia do Brazil 

Think I heard a stat that since they won in 2002 Brazil has been knocked out by the first big Euro team they have had to face.
Haven't checked.
Wonder if the guy that said that meant any Euro team or what he considers big
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Barca4Life - 7 Dec 2022 10:57 AM

Spain's style of play as much its good to watch, it can easily become predictable 

Yeah and that's why they are genuinely my least favourite team to watch in the whole world.
Not even a hint of hyperbole.
I find them incredibly boring to watch as a neutral even though if I can obviously appreciate the technique.
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alvn1 - 7 Dec 2022 8:42 AM
like to see port v eng in the semi. always a belter when those two play

what a game that will be, city players up against each other. Then you got the circus of ronaldo and him wanting to show the british he still has it. Salivating to say the least.
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Davide82 - 7 Dec 2022 11:47 AM
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Yeah and that's why they are genuinely my least favourite team to watch in the whole world.
Not even a hint of hyperbole.
I find them incredibly boring to watch as a neutral even though if I can obviously appreciate the technique.

Like with all things, imbalances/inefficiency gaps often get closed in international football and styles evolve. 

I really haven't seen Spain evolve that much since 2010 nor Germany since 2014 and I think these countries have been found out this WC. 

The modern game of football relies heavily on dynamic players and systems and has been devoid of individuality/no.10's for a long time. 

Given the rate at which knowledge transfers online and coaches have everything at their fingertips, I wonder how long it will take before we see No.10's come of age again. If all systems are known and how to counter them, then it's going to take an anomaly to overcome them (ie. an x-factor player). 
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The funniest thing that could happen now would be a Portugal Argentina final where Ronaldo is benched and Messi scores the winner. Hahahaha. The scenes.


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Morocco have only conceded 1 goal in their last 4 matches.

Apparently they've only allowed 5 shots on target during the whole tournament.

Saw this on twitter regards Spain's penalties and thought it was quite funny.

Spain completing 100% of their passes to Morocco’s goalkeeper.



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Davide82 - 7 Dec 2022 11:45 AM
tsf - 7 Dec 2022 9:59 AM

Think I heard a stat that since they won in 2002 Brazil has been knocked out by the first big Euro team they have had to face.
Haven't checked.
Wonder if the guy that said that meant any Euro team or what he considers big

Had a look at that just now, and the first Euro team they've played in the knockout stage since 2006 has beaten them
2006 France QF
2010 Netherlands QF
2014 Germany SF
2018 Belgium QF
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tsf - 7 Dec 2022 9:59 AM
Would love to see Croatia do Brazil 

and Neymar rolling rolling from end to end :) 
They went through the motions in the Grp and Cameroon game rested quite a few in that loss but that SK first half romp was smoking.
History is against the Cros but stranger things have happenned in football, Brazil team is better than the last 2 squads imo that went down as shown by NCB above.
Croacia have a very balanced squad and we know they will go to the end, ol LFC mate Lovren might be the weak link age and lack of pace on the turn them coming at him let alone behind.
Pressure is more so on Brazil being favs.

DateCompetitionResultScorers
August 17 2005FriendlyBrazil 1-1 CroatiaRicardinho (42); Kranjcar (32)
June 13 2006World CupBrazil 1-0 CroatiaKaka (44)
June 12 2014World CupBrazil 3-1 CroatiaNeymar (29, 71), Oscar (90); Marcelo (own goal, 11)
June 3 2018FriendlyBrazil 2-0 CroatiaNeymar (69), Firmino (93)



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Brazil would have liked getting our lad Ail Reza to ref again, he seems to quite like them

CROATIA - BRAZILReferee: Michael Oliver (ENG)Assistant Referee 1:Stuart Burt (ENG)Assistant Referee 2: Gary Beswick (ENG) Fourth Official: Mustapha Ghorbal (ALG)

NETHERLANDS - ARGENTINA Referee:  Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrian Devis (ESP)Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Diaz Perez Del Palomar (ESP) Fourth Official: Victor Gomes (RSA)

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As someone with Croatian Heritage i would love us to beat Brazil but i highly doubt it - i think some bookies have us at 10 bucks to win! 






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NicCarBel - 7 Dec 2022 5:33 PM
Davide82 - 7 Dec 2022 11:45 AM
tsf - 7 Dec 2022 9:59 AM

Think I heard a stat that since they won in 2002 Brazil has been knocked out by the first big Euro team they have had to face.
Haven't checked.
Wonder if the guy that said that meant any Euro team or what he considers big

Had a look at that just now, and the first Euro team they've played in the knockout stage since 2006 has beaten them
2006 France QF
2010 Netherlands QF
2014 Germany SF
2018 Belgium QF

Awesome, nice work.
Pretty interesting really. 


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Just realised besides 2018 all those teams were eventual finalists 
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alvn1 - 8 Dec 2022 10:10 AM
Brazil would have liked getting our lad Ail Reza to ref again, he seems to quite like them

CROATIA - BRAZILReferee: Michael Oliver (ENG)Assistant Referee 1:Stuart Burt (ENG)Assistant Referee 2: Gary Beswick (ENG) Fourth Official: Mustapha Ghorbal (ALG)

NETHERLANDS - ARGENTINA Referee:  Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrian Devis (ESP)Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Diaz Perez Del Palomar (ESP) Fourth Official: Victor Gomes (RSA)

good don't mind Oliver reffing.......


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Munrubenmuz - 7 Dec 2022 3:32 PM
The funniest thing that could happen now would be a Portugal Argentina final where Ronaldo is benched and Messi scores the winner. Hahahaha. The scenes.

Or better still the whole plan dating all the way back to Man U & now Portugal was a big plan to rest Ronaldo for the final & he scores the winner in the last minute & hugs Messi.

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robbos - 8 Dec 2022 11:07 AM
Munrubenmuz - 7 Dec 2022 3:32 PM

Or better still the whole plan dating all the way back to Man U & now Portugal was a big plan to rest Ronaldo for the final & he scores the winner in the last minute & hugs Messi.

Ain't gonna happen.
Will be an England v argies final 😉
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superpom - 8 Dec 2022 11:35 AM
robbos - 8 Dec 2022 11:07 AM
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Ain't gonna happen.
Will be an England v argies final 😉

haha wouldn't that be a classic Falklands revisted, one of my pom team mates still can't stand the argies the whinning b itch and I'd love seeing Messi rip em apart pity not going to happen for viva la france is gonna eat them instead and won't that go over well also lol........

Ok my hopeful predictions first 2 games
Croatia win :) hey nothing like to dream
VVD wins - sorry Messi but if you do get through all power to you.

Can't see Morrocans stopping Port.
Can't see the 3Lions stop the French croissants eat them up.



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Davide82 - 7 Dec 2022 11:45 AM
tsf - 7 Dec 2022 9:59 AM

Think I heard a stat that since they won in 2002 Brazil has been knocked out by the first big Euro team they have had to face.
Haven't checked.
Wonder if the guy that said that meant any Euro team or what he considers big

2006 - Faced Croatia (group), knocked out by France
2010 - Faced Portugal (group), knocked out by Netherlands
2014 - Faced Croatia (group), knocked out by Germany, then beaten by Netherlands
2018 - Faced Switzerland & Serbia (group), knocked out by Belgium
2022 - Faced Switzerland & Serbia (group, AGAIN), now up against Croatia.

That said, if you go further back it's likely to be very similar. Because if they're not good enough to win the cup, who else is going to knock them out but a good Euro team? The only other team that is likely to do it is Argentina.

2002 - Faced Turkey (group), knocked out Belgium, England, Turkey and Germany to win
1998 - Faced Norway & Scotland (group), knocked out Denmark, Netherlands (pens), and lost to France in final
1994 - Faced Sweden & Russia (group), knocked out Netherlands, Sweden & Italy to win
1990 - Faced Scotland & Sweden (group), knocked out by Argentina
1986 - Faced Spain & Northern Ireland (group), knocked out Poland, knocked out by France (pens)
1982 - Knocked out in group (Italy & Argentina)
1978 - Faced Austria, Spain & Sweden (1st group), faced Poland (2nd group), beat Italy for 3rd
1974 - Faced Scotland & Yugoslavia (1st group) faced Netherlands & East Germany (2nd group, missed out to Netherlands), lost to Poland in 3rd place playoff
1970 - Faced England, Romania & Czechoslovakia (group), knocked out Italy to win.
1966 - Knocked out in group (Portugal, Hungary, Bulgaria)
1962 - Faced Czechoslovakia & Spain (group), knocked out England & Czechoslovakia to win
1958 - Faced Soviet Union, England & Austria (group), knocked out Wales, France and Sweden to win

That was their first title, so finishing it up there, but in all that, there was only once case where they knocked out any 'big' Euro team and didn't win the tournament, and even that was only won on pens.

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Tell youse one thing, I'm missing games already - as much as you get deeper in the tournament which is great less games suck.
Tomorrow can't come soon enough.


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Difficult to ride out two days without a WC fix but at least I caught up with sleep to the tune of about 11 hours last night 
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robbos - 7 Dec 2022 9:17 AM
LFC. - 7 Dec 2022 8:54 AM

Where is MSC with the Portugal is overrated comment. No Cancelo, Neves & Ronaldo today, shows depth, with Leao coming on as a sub, strong depth.

VAMOS PORTUGAL!!!!!!!! sorry mate I was travelling for work for a couple of days..... What a masterclass by your boys.... even old mate Pepe scored .... Ramos, wow, just wow but my favourite player of yours is Jao Felix...... really keen to see where he ends up in Jan.
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LFC. - 8 Dec 2022 12:42 PM

superpom - 8 Dec 2022 11:35 AM

haha wouldn't that be a classic Falklands revisted, one of my pom team mates still can't stand the argies the whinning b itch and I'd love seeing Messi rip em apart pity not going to happen for viva la france is gonna eat them instead and won't that go over well also lol........

Ok my hopeful predictions first 2 games
Croatia win :) hey nothing like to dream
VVD wins - sorry Messi but if you do get through all power to you.

Can't see Morrocans stopping Port.
Can't see the 3Lions stop the French croissants eat them up.


Hey bud, you know what I have a feeling Croatia will win too... I think THAT is going to be the WTF moment of the World Cup....  
Sorry but  Virg is going to have to go back to Anfield a little early, can't see the Dutchies getting through....

So keen for all 4 games though, bring it on.
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