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Munrubenmuz - 27 Jan 2023 4:07 PM
So what'd I miss?

Ethnic bashing from roosty.

Looks like the real bashings only happen in the AL each week. Must be those damn ethnics.
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PGR - 27 Jan 2023 9:51 PM
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Nice speech which one can't disagree with.

So why don't multicultural fan bases go and watch mono ethnic clubs in numbers like they do the A-League?

Given your statement, the answer may not be palatable.
Well, these clubs are obviously NOT in the top division anymore and even when they were the whole "ethnicity" thing kept many away... 
The answer, indeed, isnt palatable to what is supposed to be a tolerant, progressive society like Australia.
You dont have to like something to accept it's place in society. 
I personally don't like sushi but dont call on a ban on all Japanese restaurants because they are anti-Australian and not multicultural..... I just dont get the hatred. Especially now that the "multicultural fan" has so many other options..... Don't want to support a club with ties to a particular community .... no problem, support another one instead...
Doesn't mean that there arene't others who see past that petty shit.... Some of the most passionate Hellas, Knights, Bergers fans arent even Greek or Croatian.... 
Clubs need the ability to be able to expand their fanbase (IF THEY WANT TOO) and locking them OUT of the first division isn't going to achieve this... 
If some people stopped fussing over the origins and identity of these clubs and the DNA of their fans perhaps some of them would be able to do so.... 


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Munrubenmuz - 27 Jan 2023 4:07 PM
So what'd I miss?

Just me defending my "Australian-ness" to the White Australia policy makers again ...:)
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roosty - 27 Jan 2023 3:50 PM
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"Theres plenty of pebbly beaches around Dubrovnik you can send boatloads of young diggers to get mowed down in machine gun fire though" - Quoted by Mono

You can deflect all you want, mono, in the end of the day you said this terrible terrible thing. There is no hiding, there is no coming back from this, your hatred for Australia, its people, its sacred traditions is on full display, for the entire world to see. You are not a true Australian.

Sorry Roosty... Not sure what is so terrible. Did 'mother England not send out young Australian soldiers to die needlessly invading some foreign country for no apparent reason?
You suggested sending our F35s to invade another sovereign country FFS, I think you have a few anger issues.
Can you tell me what a "true Australian" is perhaps? 
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I wouldn't worry about them MSC as I'm sure you don't but enjoy poking their narrow minded small minds, the roosty's and PGR's are football supporters could well do without.
Abuse posted by roosty is unacceptable but thankfully with minimal mods involvement is for all to see and show his true nature behind a keyboard.
Talk about NSL bitters of the past preceeded by roosty/PGR bitters of today lol......





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LFC. - 30 Jan 2023 10:59 AM
I wouldn't worry about them MSC as I'm sure you don't but enjoy poking their narrow minded small minds, the roosty's and PGR's are football supporters could well do without.
Abuse posted by roosty is unacceptable but thankfully with minimal mods involvement is for all to see and show his true nature behind a keyboard.
Talk about NSL bitters of the past preceeded by roosty/PGR bitters of today lol......




Water off a ducks back mate :) Ive been told to "go back to your own country" so many times now it doesn't mean much.... I feel sorry for my kids and their future kids though..... Going on to fifth generation in some cases and STILL not accepted as Australians by some of the nasties.......  I wonder when it will ever change.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Jan 2023 9:24 AM
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Well, these clubs are obviously NOT in the top division anymore and even when they were the whole "ethnicity" thing kept many away... 
The answer, indeed, isnt palatable to what is supposed to be a tolerant, progressive society like Australia.
You dont have to like something to accept it's place in society. 
I personally don't like sushi but dont call on a ban on all Japanese restaurants because they are anti-Australian and not multicultural..... I just dont get the hatred. Especially now that the "multicultural fan" has so many other options..... Don't want to support a club with ties to a particular community .... no problem, support another one instead...
Doesn't mean that there arene't others who see past that petty shit.... Some of the most passionate Hellas, Knights, Bergers fans arent even Greek or Croatian.... 
Clubs need the ability to be able to expand their fanbase (IF THEY WANT TOO) and locking them OUT of the first division isn't going to achieve this... 
If some people stopped fussing over the origins and identity of these clubs and the DNA of their fans perhaps some of them would be able to do so.... 


Really? Multicultural football supporters don't go and watch mono cultural ethnic teams because they're not in top flight?

What happened during the NSL era when they were in top flight? Were the other 200 nationalities racists then as well?




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LFC. - 30 Jan 2023 10:59 AM
I wouldn't worry about them MSC as I'm sure you don't but enjoy poking their narrow minded small minds, the roosty's and PGR's are football supporters could well do without.
Abuse posted by roosty is unacceptable but thankfully with minimal mods involvement is for all to see and show his true nature behind a keyboard.
Talk about NSL bitters of the past preceeded by roosty/PGR bitters of today lol......




Sorry LFC, there's hardly a post by Mono that doesn't criticize the AL and anything else that doesn't suit his agenda or in support of the all mighty SM Hellas. So who's bitter?

There needs to be push back with some reality and opposing views, but I would never say to anyone to go back to where they came from just as much as I would never say Australians should be machined gun down.

You need to look at the lopsidedness of the comments you make sometimes.


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PGR - 30 Jan 2023 7:19 PM
LFC. - 30 Jan 2023 10:59 AM

Sorry LFC, there's hardly a post by Mono that doesn't criticize the AL and anything else that doesn't suit his agenda or in support of the all mighty SM Hellas. So who's bitter?

There needs to be push back with some reality and opposing views, but I would never say to anyone to go back to where they came from just as much as I would never say Australians should be machined gun down.

You need to look at the lopsidedness of the comments you make sometimes.


and you do exactely the same re ol sokha......

Yes I agree there needs to be a pushback on both sides of the ledger on the game here for talk about repeat and rinse time and time and time again and your one of the main ones from the otherside.
As for his other comment the smart/wise thing to have done is to ignore it like most have barring you and roosty having the axe to grind.

I think I'm pretty balanced most of the times nobody is perfect.



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PGR - 30 Jan 2023 6:41 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Jan 2023 9:24 AM

Really? Multicultural football supporters don't go and watch mono cultural ethnic teams because they're not in top flight?

What happened during the NSL era when they were in top flight? Were the other 200 nationalities racists then as well?



Dont know if they were racist or not thats your implication, not mine....  Why didnt the "other" 200 nationalities attend non-effnik clubs in NSL in that case? Was it maybe because "sokkah" wasn't popular or the "new-dawn" was too busy watching more uniquely Australian sports instead?
NPL is a graveyard and non-effnik clubs get abismal crowds btw.... nit having a go at them but even blind Freddy can tell you that the only time you would get more than parents and friends spectating an NPL game sis when its one of your dreaded wog teams... Look at the franchise NPL squads FFS, their NPL day experience is woeful.


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PGR - 30 Jan 2023 7:19 PM
LFC. - 30 Jan 2023 10:59 AM

Sorry LFC, there's hardly a post by Mono that doesn't criticize the AL and anything else that doesn't suit his agenda or in support of the all mighty SM Hellas. So who's bitter?

There needs to be push back with some reality and opposing views, but I would never say to anyone to go back to where they came from just as much as I would never say Australians should be machined gun down.

You need to look at the lopsidedness of the comments you make sometimes.

Nice try Paulie.... keep twisting and turning buddy.... 


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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Jan 2023 11:50 AM
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Water off a ducks back mate :) Ive been told to "go back to your own country" so many times now it doesn't mean much.... I feel sorry for my kids and their future kids though..... Going on to fifth generation in some cases and STILL not accepted as Australians by some of the nasties.......  I wonder when it will ever change.

Fuck off mono. Hanging shit on the Anzacs, crapping on Australian culture, pissing on our British heritage,  bashing the A league because there’s too many anglos, opening dissing Australia at every opportunity, and then claiming you are a ‘true Australian’ and a victim of racism. 

YOU ARE A PERPETRATOR OF RACISM, NOT A VICTIM.

If you hate Australia and everything about it, it begs the question, why are you still here? Surely you would prefer to polish Golden Dawn signs while watching reruns of Acropolis Now from your balcony in Athens? 





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roosty - 31 Jan 2023 3:43 PM
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Fuck off mono. Hanging shit on the Anzacs, crapping on Australian culture, pissing on our British heritage,  bashing the A league because there’s too many anglos, opening dissing Australia at every opportunity, and then claiming you are a ‘true Australian’ and a victim of racism. 

YOU ARE A PERPETRATOR OF RACISM, NOT A VICTIM.

If you hate Australia and everything about it, it begs the question, why are you still here? Surely you would prefer to polish Golden Dawn signs while watching reruns of Acropolis Now from your balcony in Athens? 





Sorry Roosty, my family paid good money for a ticket to get on a boat to come to Australia, they weren't chained to their seat and fed bread an water....... No way we're leaving now that we own so much of it :)
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LFC. - 31 Jan 2023 9:36 AM
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and you do exactely the same re ol sokha......

Yes I agree there needs to be a pushback on both sides of the ledger on the game here for talk about repeat and rinse time and time and time again and your one of the main ones from the otherside.
As for his other comment the smart/wise thing to have done is to ignore it like most have barring you and roosty having the axe to grind.

I think I'm pretty balanced most of the times nobody is perfect.



LOL ignore and miss out on the fun with Mono or other gang of bitters? No axe to grind here, just push back. It appears that as long as they are traditional football tragics, it's ok according to you - that is your being "pretty balanced"? I'm ok with that by the way. As you say, no one is perfect.

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PGR - 31 Jan 2023 6:52 PM
LFC. - 31 Jan 2023 9:36 AM

LOL ignore and miss out on the fun with Mono or other gang of bitters? No axe to grind here, just push back. It appears that as long as they are traditional football tragics, it's ok according to you - that is your being "pretty balanced"? I'm ok with that by the way. As you say, no one is perfect.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OK Paulie.... 
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roosty - 31 Jan 2023 3:43 PM
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Fuck off mono. Hanging shit on the Anzacs, crapping on Australian culture, pissing on our British heritage,  bashing the A league because there’s too many anglos, opening dissing Australia at every opportunity, and then claiming you are a ‘true Australian’ and a victim of racism. 

YOU ARE A PERPETRATOR OF RACISM, NOT A VICTIM.

If you hate Australia and everything about it, it begs the question, why are you still here? Surely you would prefer to polish Golden Dawn signs while watching reruns of Acropolis Now from your balcony in Athens? 





a lot of lefty Aussies crap on Australia day and burn Australian flags. are you gonna tell them to F*** off to there motherland too?

a lot of ethnics i know, embrace Australia and it's culture as well as support its local communities whether that may be through football, church, festivals etc. 

the only racist around here is you. 
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a lot of lefty Aussies crap on Australia day and burn Australian flags. are you gonna tell them to F*** off to there motherland too?

a lot of ethnics i know, embrace Australia and it's culture as well as support its local communities whether that may be through football, church, festivals etc. 

the only racist around here is you. 

Hahahaa mate if im a racist than mono is Hitler himself. This whole thread is polluted with his anti Australian, anglo hating, Anzac disparaging drivel. All I said is that Aussie Croats should represent Australia which is the most PRO ethnic thing I can think of. Maybe cos he is a fellow ethnic cuz you feel the need to gang up against the Anglos in order to defend his atrocious behaviour. If thats the case that makes you a racist as well.

Anyone who disparages Australia and especially the Anzacs, while proudly admitting to waving the flag of foreign nation, whether England, New Zealand, Greenland, Ireland, Antarctica, Greece etc, can indeed fuck off back to their own country.

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Hahahaa mate if im a racist than mono is Hitler himself. This whole thread is polluted with his anti Australian, anglo hating, Anzac disparaging drivel. All I said is that Aussie Croats should represent Australia which is the most PRO ethnic thing I can think of. Maybe cos he is a fellow ethnic cuz you feel the need to gang up against the Anglos in order to defend his atrocious behaviour. If thats the case that makes you a racist as well.

Anyone who disparages Australia and especially the Anzacs, while proudly admitting to waving the flag of foreign nation, whether England, New Zealand, Greenland, Ireland, Antarctica, Greece etc, can indeed fuck off back to their own country.

Hahahaha Do you cut the Union jack out before you wave yours Rusty? hahahahahahah

For the record, I dont think you are purposefully racist mate, you just don't know any better... Its OK your not alone in this world.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 2 Feb 2023 9:37 AM
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Hahahaha Do you cut the Union jack out before you wave yours Rusty? hahahahahahah

For the record, I dont think you are purposefully racist mate, you just don't know any better... Its OK your not alone in this world.

I would say that you’re purposely racist, but you hide behind the veneer of “poor me oppressed NSL victim” to justify it. 

I haven’t said anything racist at all. Not even a little bit. It’s just a pejorative that people like you who hate Australia and anglos throw around to shut down debate.

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I would say that you’re purposely racist, but you hide behind the veneer of “poor me oppressed NSL victim” to justify it. 

I haven’t said anything racist at all. Not even a little bit. It’s just a pejorative that people like you who hate Australia and anglos throw around to shut down debate.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH oh righto champ... 
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I really do not feel comfortable with the history of the Australian Defence Force being used disrespectfully in some back-fence argument that revolves around of all things, effing football.

For those that piss on Australia's efforts at defending against fascism in Europe in WW2 I will simply post these figures:
Australian 6th Division:
The division's casualties in Greece amounted to 320 killed, 494 wounded and 2,030 captured.
The fighting on Crete added a further 274 killed, 507 wounded and 3,102 captured to the division's casualty list.

That is a lot of grieving.

For those that try and argue that the effort and sacrifice of the people directly involved in the fighting, as well as the enormous effort of those of the home country to support them, somehow represents a view that we should now promote prejudice against other cultures and their freedom to pursue their own identity wherever they are on the planet,
clearly has not the first clue as to why those civilians who donned green went there in the first place.



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SWandP - 2 Feb 2023 4:21 PM

For those that try and argue that the effort and sacrifice of the people directly involved in the fighting, as well as the enormous effort of those of the home country to support them, somehow represents a view that we should now promote prejudice against other cultures and their freedom to pursue their own identity wherever they are on the planet,
clearly has not the first clue as to why those civilians who donned green went there in the first place.



Ah bullshit. No one said "because our soldiers died everyone has to represent Straya in football". No one said that.

People who are born and raised here should represent Australia, especially if you learn your football here. There are exceptions,  but all things being equal one should represent their nation of birth. There's too much nostalgia and misguided emotion placed on bloodline and heritage. Give back to the country that raised you, fed you, housed you, educated you, provided the turf for you to learn and develop a love for football, not the country your parents or grandparents ran away from.

Screw your pussy "freedom to pursue their own identity blah blah blah" mentality.:rolleyes: Young ethnic kids growing up won't respect this kind of pea hearted self effacing mentality, they won't want to represent a country that has such a tepid view of its own identify. 


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Ah bullshit. No one said "because our soldiers died everyone has to represent Straya in football". No one said that.

People who are born and raised here should represent Australia, especially if you learn your football here. There are exceptions,  but all things being equal one should represent their nation of birth. There's too much nostalgia and misguided emotion placed on bloodline and heritage. Give back to the country that raised you, fed you, housed you, educated you, provided the turf for you to learn and develop a love for football, not the country your parents or grandparents ran away from.

Screw your pussy "freedom to pursue their own identity blah blah blah" mentality.:rolleyes: Young ethnic kids growing up won't respect this kind of pea hearted self effacing mentality, they won't want to represent a country that has such a tepid view of its own identify. 


You love your strawmen.  Your disingenuous use of quotation marks your dishonesty perfectly.
Your ability to live in and spread your misery is down to the sacrifice of others.  It is equally wonderful that we have the right to exercise the choice to ignore you completely or simply laugh at your garbage.

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SWandP - 2 Feb 2023 4:21 PM
I really do not feel comfortable with the history of the Australian Defence Force being used disrespectfully in some back-fence argument that revolves around of all things, effing football.

For those that piss on Australia's efforts at defending against fascism in Europe in WW2 I will simply post these figures:
Australian 6th Division:
The division's casualties in Greece amounted to 320 killed, 494 wounded and 2,030 captured.
The fighting on Crete added a further 274 killed, 507 wounded and 3,102 captured to the division's casualty list.

That is a lot of grieving.

For those that try and argue that the effort and sacrifice of the people directly involved in the fighting, as well as the enormous effort of those of the home country to support them, somehow represents a view that we should now promote prejudice against other cultures and their freedom to pursue their own identity wherever they are on the planet,
clearly has not the first clue as to why those civilians who donned green went there in the first place.


Well said mate. (apologies about snide remarks, I didnt want it to come across that way, just too busy defending my position as usual)

BTW my grandfather fought alongside the crazy NZ troops in the second battle of Thermopyles and later helped smuggle many an ANZAC to Crete during the battle of Kalamata in late April 41... (He didnt survive the civil war that followed but his fondness for the funny Australian blokes he met was one of the reasons why my orphaned father and his sisters decided on Australia as a new home) The Greek army had already capitulated to the Germans in the north earlier that month but many soldiers continued the fight as irregulars, mainly logistically as they had been disarmed (as a mark of respect the officers of the Greek Army were allowed by the Germans to keep their sidearms).
In Crete the bonds between ANZACS and Greek resistance was/and still remains fierce.....

There are shrines and cemeteries lovingly tended to by locals dotted ALL over Greece and post war migration to Australia was seen by Greek society as us going to a friendly country who did so much to help us in our hour of need. Go to any larger (and even some of the smaller ones) Greek city and you'll find an ANZAC memorial, more often than not an ANZAC St or Melbourne Ave or whatever.

This is what our Greek Australian community feels about ANZACS and Rusty and all the other Rustys out there can quite frankly get fucked!
https://greekcitytimes.com/2017/04/25/commemorating-anzac-day/
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Nationalism in any form can go suck a big fat Friday morning one.
You are all idiots
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Davide82 - 3 Feb 2023 10:00 AM
Nationalism in any form can go suck a big fat Friday morning one.
You are all idiots

There is nothing wrong with being a nationalist, patriotic to your country, culture, faith, tradition, family etc. 

Globalisation & socialists on the other hand 🤢
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Isnt that wonderful. The Greek community as a whole is completely appreciative for the sacrifices of the Anzacs. I would expect nothing less from this wonderfully integrated community. One racist fascist asshat is no reflection on the wonderful contributions of the broader Greek community of Australia. 

Mono you are a disgrace. You pissed on the anzac legacy, despite knowing the sacrifices the Anzacs made for the Greeks. Fascist racist Anzac hating people like you have no place in Australia.

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There is nothing wrong with being a nationalist, patriotic to your country, culture, faith, tradition, family etc. 

Globalisation & socialists on the other hand 🤢

Patriotism nationalism (though one often follows the other).
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George Orwell defined patriotism as “devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people.”

He contrasted patriotism with nationalism, by which he meant “the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labeled ‘good’ or ‘bad’”

“the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.”
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Beretta - 3 Feb 2023 11:46 AM
Davide82 - 3 Feb 2023 10:00 AM

There is nothing wrong with being a nationalist, patriotic to your country, culture, faith, tradition, family etc. 

Globalisation & socialists on the other hand 🤢

Out of curiosity, why did you choose that logo as your profile pic when you showed up here after Glover was assaulted?
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