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+xEven instant scratchies have a major prize. What's wrong with unearthing a gem? The only thing getting scratched here is our heads after each of the Mocks posts…
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+xBoth games I have watched high intensity. Newcastle / Warriors perhaps in a lower gear. Every club knows how important it is to start the season well and I am amazed how well the top clubs consistently fire out of the blocks at the start of season. And how the level goes up each season. Even great teams from tbe 70s, 80s and 90s would IMO absolutely be lapped by modern NRL teams. Anyone who hasn't done it doesn't understand how hard tbe training is, how well tuned the athletes are and the amount of detailed preparation. Teams can't afford to be 5% off at the start of the season, because thst means racking up some early losses and it is hard to come back. The Dogs need to match the physical strength of Manly and we need to be on in defence frustrating them into error... Bring it on. No other sport in this country has this level of intensity. May the best Dogs team win. I thought the Panthers fefence was ok, only two tries coceded against the Broncos. Their attack however was shockingly clunky. They missed Korosau but it was much more than that. The little half they brought on in the second half looks promising.
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+xI thought the Panthers fefence was ok, only two tries coceded against the Broncos. Their attack however was shockingly clunky. They missed Korosau but it was much more than that. The little half they brought on in the second half looks promising. They’ll find a workaround missing Korisau and The Skunk eventually, and their defence alone will win them games… against 14-15 other teams in the comp. But 2-3 teams come the semis will be able to exploit any workaround they come up with. GFQF at best for them I think, maybe fall into another GF. But if they’re playing Easts, Souths, Melb or maybe even Cowboys in a GF they won’t be good enough this time.
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dman2018
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What is this obsession young men have with wearing pants that leave ankles exposed???…
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+xWhat is this obsession young men have with wearing pants that leave ankles exposed???… Maybe they can't afford new ones.
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+x+xBoth games I have watched high intensity. Newcastle / Warriors perhaps in a lower gear. Every club knows how important it is to start the season well and I am amazed how well the top clubs consistently fire out of the blocks at the start of season. And how the level goes up each season. Even great teams from tbe 70s, 80s and 90s would IMO absolutely be lapped by modern NRL teams. Anyone who hasn't done it doesn't understand how hard tbe training is, how well tuned the athletes are and the amount of detailed preparation. Teams can't afford to be 5% off at the start of the season, because thst means racking up some early losses and it is hard to come back. The Dogs need to match the physical strength of Manly and we need to be on in defence frustrating them into error... Bring it on. No other sport in this country has this level of intensity. May the best Dogs team win. I thought the Panthers fefence was ok, only two tries coceded against the Broncos. Their attack however was shockingly clunky. They missed Korosau but it was much more than that. The little half they brought on in the second half looks promising. You mean the hooker Soni Luke???… Surprised it took so long to bring him on…
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+x+x+xBoth games I have watched high intensity. Newcastle / Warriors perhaps in a lower gear. Every club knows how important it is to start the season well and I am amazed how well the top clubs consistently fire out of the blocks at the start of season. And how the level goes up each season. Even great teams from tbe 70s, 80s and 90s would IMO absolutely be lapped by modern NRL teams. Anyone who hasn't done it doesn't understand how hard tbe training is, how well tuned the athletes are and the amount of detailed preparation. Teams can't afford to be 5% off at the start of the season, because thst means racking up some early losses and it is hard to come back. The Dogs need to match the physical strength of Manly and we need to be on in defence frustrating them into error... Bring it on. No other sport in this country has this level of intensity. May the best Dogs team win. I thought the Panthers fefence was ok, only two tries coceded against the Broncos. Their attack however was shockingly clunky. They missed Korosau but it was much more than that. The little half they brought on in the second half looks promising. You mean the hooker Soni Luke???… Surprised it took so long to bring him on… Sorry, that's who I meant. Old brain's cracking up along with everything else.
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+x+x+x+xBoth games I have watched high intensity. Newcastle / Warriors perhaps in a lower gear. Every club knows how important it is to start the season well and I am amazed how well the top clubs consistently fire out of the blocks at the start of season. And how the level goes up each season. Even great teams from tbe 70s, 80s and 90s would IMO absolutely be lapped by modern NRL teams. Anyone who hasn't done it doesn't understand how hard tbe training is, how well tuned the athletes are and the amount of detailed preparation. Teams can't afford to be 5% off at the start of the season, because thst means racking up some early losses and it is hard to come back. The Dogs need to match the physical strength of Manly and we need to be on in defence frustrating them into error... Bring it on. No other sport in this country has this level of intensity. May the best Dogs team win. I thought the Panthers fefence was ok, only two tries coceded against the Broncos. Their attack however was shockingly clunky. They missed Korosau but it was much more than that. The little half they brought on in the second half looks promising. You mean the hooker Soni Luke???… Surprised it took so long to bring him on… Sorry, that's who I meant. Old brain's cracking up along with everything else. He’s got plenty about him… I think the blueprint from last year re their hookers will be tossed pretty quickly…Kenny just ain’t that good…
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I think we may get steamrolled up the middle today, if Manly’s smart enough, we just don’t have the size or experience. Quick ptb’s with six agains and penalty’s on the back of them being the order of the day.
If Manly are dumb or we play above ourselves in the middle we could get them.
Hopefully Cirro has a secret plan, or a rifle.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x, I bet you wouldn't either if it were Cleary or Munster that did it.
If Cleary or Munster did it, it’d be the exception for that game and the next dozen games that followed. Moses it was the normal, for that game - wasn’t the only dud kick or non-kick. Lemon fans would’ve been thinking “here we go again” from about the 60 min mark. And he’ll pull another performance like that within the month. 2nd tier, financially smacked in the arse with a rainbow by idiots. I personally think we've paid the stupid money to Burton at the expense of getting a good halfback. I know you guys still rate Burton and think he has not reached his ceiling. But I feel he may in fact be a limited player in the halves. The clubs decision could be the catalyst as to whether we can be a top 4 team or not in the next 3 years. Coz if we are not planning or aiming to be top 4 in the next 3 years, we may as well start supporting the Dolphins. I don’t think money is an issue. Apparently Burto signed for 800k a year. Possibly closer to 700k. Depending on what reports you read. That’s money for a top centre. He is a proven top class centre.
As far as Gould says we have plenty of cash to spend next year. So even if he doesn’t work out we have money for a million dollar halfback.
Who would you spend that money on over Burto anyway? Who would you sign in the next few years? I don't have an issue with Burton on 700-800k either as 5/8th or centre. What I have an issue with are the excuses why we don't spend 25% more on a key playmaker Who would you spend that money on? Look, I was all for signing Adam Reynolds, Nicho Hynes, Cam Munster.. Now I'm all for signing Moses. Every year or 2 you get the top halves in the comp coming off contract and although there are rumours that float around about us interested in talks with these elite halves, we pull the pin and look for cheaper options or rookies. It seems we have a ceiling fee on halves and once it's exceeded by market price, we pull out. We do so knowing full well we are throwing away our season. If I want to gamble on a rookie, I would rather just buy an instant scratchie.... I disagree. I think most halves don’t want to sign with us. Realistically what half would want to sign with us after the last six years.
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+xI think we may get steamrolled up the middle today, if Manly’s smart enough, we just don’t have the size or experience. Quick ptb’s with six agains and penalty’s on the back of them being the order of the day. If Manly are dumb or we play above ourselves in the middle we could get them. Hopefully Cirro has a secret plan, or a rifle. They are playing strong up the middle. We just find a way to stick in there. The refs have other ideas though
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Burton will cost us this game if he continues to play like shit. He just forgot how to kick in the off season.
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Pele the off the bench might make an impact.
We just need to stay in tbe grind and try to wear them down.
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That wasn't what I had in mind.
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+x+xEven instant scratchies have a major prize. What's wrong with unearthing a gem? The only thing getting scratched here is our heads after each of the Mocks posts… Remember this post?
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It's funny...
I made a post either on here or on TK that we should drop Burton for a couple of weeks after his poor trial effort and claim he has a niggly injury.
Boy was I right....
He has been beyond bad today and I actually blame CC for showing no spine to bench him at half time, especially when Kiraz was given the green light to return.
Absolute garbage.
Persist with his "potential" at 5/8th which may never get realised, and we will not see finals for another decade.
I feel for Mahoney who could have played in another GF had he stayed at Eels
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I hate to say this after 1 game, but I get really worried when a coach enters a game with only 1 gameplan and when it turns to shite, he and team has nothing else.
Poor start from CC
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Mahoney might get 3 points here today....
He's playing 3 positions
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If Burton is not dropped for that forward pass to DCE for the last try, I want CC sacked
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+xIf Burton is not dropped for that forward pass to DCE for the last try, I want CC sacked Won't happen, but I hope we don't see another performance like that. We were down on troops in the forwards but so far Burton hasn't convinced me that he is a 5/8 and Flanno hasn't convinced me that he is a half. Perham at fullback 50/50. But outside of Marhoney, Kiraz, Perston and King most of the side very poor. Burton and JAC need to switch on.
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+xI hate to say this after 1 game, but I get really worried when a coach enters a game with only 1 gameplan and when it turns to shite, he and team has nothing else. Poor start from CC So many dumb errors in that game it was hard to work out the game plan. But I think we were banking on superior fitness to grind Manly down, that only works without all of the dumb errors. I don't know if Burton is trying too hard, but that was a bad game.
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Only round 1 but I don't want to see a performance like that again, if we do time to change the halves.
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I'm not concerned, first game and everyone from the coach down has a lot to learn. We were poor and the sheagles had everything go their way. It happens, but those that are slitting their wrists after one poor performance are sh!thouse supporters.
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+xI'm not concerned, first game and everyone from the coach down has a lot to learn. We were poor and the sheagles had everything go their way. It happens, but those that are slitting their wrists after one poor performance are sh!thouse supporters. Let me correct you.... Continual shithouse performances....
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+xI'm not concerned, first game and everyone from the coach down has a lot to learn. We were poor and the sheagles had everything go their way. It happens, but those that are slitting their wrists after one poor performance are sh!thouse supporters. We had some young forwards making their debuts in a weakened team. If they hang in they will learn a lot. Lower grades won so we have some depth. We will be short handed in the forwards for another 4 weeks. IMO CC is the coach for the next 3 seasons regardless of results this season. Gus is keeping his job regardless. Supporters have to decide if they are supporters or whingers.
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+x+xI'm not concerned, first game and everyone from the coach down has a lot to learn. We were poor and the sheagles had everything go their way. It happens, but those that are slitting their wrists after one poor performance are sh!thouse supporters. Let me correct you.... Continual shithouse performances.... Just like your continued whinging and constant negativity. I am not happy about how we played but neither are the coach and players. CC is right, they did show some grit but also a lot of dumb mistakes. We need to lose the mistakes, keep the grit and get our attacking combinations working.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x, I bet you wouldn't either if it were Cleary or Munster that did it.
If Cleary or Munster did it, it’d be the exception for that game and the next dozen games that followed. Moses it was the normal, for that game - wasn’t the only dud kick or non-kick. Lemon fans would’ve been thinking “here we go again” from about the 60 min mark. And he’ll pull another performance like that within the month. 2nd tier, financially smacked in the arse with a rainbow by idiots. I personally think we've paid the stupid money to Burton at the expense of getting a good halfback. I know you guys still rate Burton and think he has not reached his ceiling. But I feel he may in fact be a limited player in the halves. The clubs decision could be the catalyst as to whether we can be a top 4 team or not in the next 3 years. Coz if we are not planning or aiming to be top 4 in the next 3 years, we may as well start supporting the Dolphins. I don’t think money is an issue. Apparently Burto signed for 800k a year. Possibly closer to 700k. Depending on what reports you read. That’s money for a top centre. He is a proven top class centre.
As far as Gould says we have plenty of cash to spend next year. So even if he doesn’t work out we have money for a million dollar halfback.
Who would you spend that money on over Burto anyway? Who would you sign in the next few years? I don't have an issue with Burton on 700-800k either as 5/8th or centre. What I have an issue with are the excuses why we don't spend 25% more on a key playmaker Who would you spend that money on? Look, I was all for signing Adam Reynolds, Nicho Hynes, Cam Munster.. Now I'm all for signing Moses. Every year or 2 you get the top halves in the comp coming off contract and although there are rumours that float around about us interested in talks with these elite halves, we pull the pin and look for cheaper options or rookies. It seems we have a ceiling fee on halves and once it's exceeded by market price, we pull out. We do so knowing full well we are throwing away our season. If I want to gamble on a rookie, I would rather just buy an instant scratchie.... I disagree. I think most halves don’t want to sign with us. Realistically what half would want to sign with us after the last six years. They would be signing for the next three years not the last six and under a different administration.
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Marki
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+x+x+xI'm not concerned, first game and everyone from the coach down has a lot to learn. We were poor and the sheagles had everything go their way. It happens, but those that are slitting their wrists after one poor performance are sh!thouse supporters. Let me correct you.... Continual shithouse performances.... Just like your continued whinging and constant negativity. I am not happy about how we played but neither are the coach and players. CC is right, they did show some grit but also a lot of dumb mistakes. We need to lose the mistakes, keep the grit and get our attacking combinations working. What came first, the chicken or the egg?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x, I bet you wouldn't either if it were Cleary or Munster that did it.
If Cleary or Munster did it, it’d be the exception for that game and the next dozen games that followed. Moses it was the normal, for that game - wasn’t the only dud kick or non-kick. Lemon fans would’ve been thinking “here we go again” from about the 60 min mark. And he’ll pull another performance like that within the month. 2nd tier, financially smacked in the arse with a rainbow by idiots. I personally think we've paid the stupid money to Burton at the expense of getting a good halfback. I know you guys still rate Burton and think he has not reached his ceiling. But I feel he may in fact be a limited player in the halves. The clubs decision could be the catalyst as to whether we can be a top 4 team or not in the next 3 years. Coz if we are not planning or aiming to be top 4 in the next 3 years, we may as well start supporting the Dolphins. I don’t think money is an issue. Apparently Burto signed for 800k a year. Possibly closer to 700k. Depending on what reports you read. That’s money for a top centre. He is a proven top class centre.
As far as Gould says we have plenty of cash to spend next year. So even if he doesn’t work out we have money for a million dollar halfback.
Who would you spend that money on over Burto anyway? Who would you sign in the next few years? I don't have an issue with Burton on 700-800k either as 5/8th or centre. What I have an issue with are the excuses why we don't spend 25% more on a key playmaker Who would you spend that money on? Look, I was all for signing Adam Reynolds, Nicho Hynes, Cam Munster.. Now I'm all for signing Moses. Every year or 2 you get the top halves in the comp coming off contract and although there are rumours that float around about us interested in talks with these elite halves, we pull the pin and look for cheaper options or rookies. It seems we have a ceiling fee on halves and once it's exceeded by market price, we pull out. We do so knowing full well we are throwing away our season. If I want to gamble on a rookie, I would rather just buy an instant scratchie.... I disagree. I think most halves don’t want to sign with us. Realistically what half would want to sign with us after the last six years. They would be signing for the next three years not the last six and under a different administration. Still we need to strengthen the forwards and get the side playing well to attract an established half. Young guys looking for an opportunity will always sign, and we have some of them. Throwing a big pile of money at a star half works 10% of the time. Signing players and having them shift positions is always risky. So far Burton at 5/8 is inconsistent but mostly a lot better than today. Fox really poor so far this season, they both know it and will be looking to make amends.
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