NST phase 2 - The RFP


NST phase 2 - The RFP

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Waiting for the shortlist is like waiting for the next harry kewell
hurry up already
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grazorblade - 27 Mar 2023 3:43 PM
Waiting for the shortlist is like waiting for the next harry kewell
hurry up already

Its always darkest before the dawn bud :) ... April isnt that far away for shortlisted EOIs and then June, with final selections 3 months and we will know....

Also the same time as APL will reveal the successful Auckland and Canberra investors coincidentally.. Any word on who they are yet?
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LFC. - 27 Mar 2023 12:44 PM
so weird people going to the trouble changing their user names like Joe above but was PSC before.......
Other than that yes agreed as I mentioned earlier - fish where the real fish are, NST to grass roots.

He may have lost his IP and couldn't use the same user name? 
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PSC-1948 - 27 Mar 2023 10:33 AM
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100% agree.  The FFA and the APL and all the state federations should be focusing on the converted and not the AFL/NRL crowd. By having the A-League in summer is like saying our football can't compete with them. By why are we supposed to be competing with them?  Our game is a winter sport, and should be played in winter. We can have a longer season than them.  We may be flooding the "market" amongst our fan base, but as sure as hell, everyone involved with the code will have a choice. And that is exactly what happens everywhere else in the world - at every level of the game.

No doubt that a "winter" season, or one aligned with the calendar year, could effectively takes us from February to November, for a 9 month season, with at 2 or 3 months sitting outside of the NRL/AFL seasons.
We would also align with much of Asia, which is our confederation, last time I looked.

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bettega - 28 Mar 2023 7:00 PM
PSC-1948 - 27 Mar 2023 10:33 AM

No doubt that a "winter" season, or one aligned with the calendar year, could effectively takes us from February to November, for a 9 month season, with at 2 or 3 months sitting outside of the NRL/AFL seasons.
We would also align with much of Asia, which is our confederation, last time I looked.

The ACL is moving to an August-May calendar to align with Europe and the Middle Eastern leagues, but that shouldn't stop us going to winter. It would still line up with China, Japan and Korea, and be the seasonal equivalent of the European calendar (inverted for the southern hemisphere). It would also help in shifting to a 9-10 month season rather than the 7 month season we have now. 

Stadium availability is not an issue, especially with advances in pitch maintenance. The Socceroos-Ecuador match at Commbank was 24 hours after an NRL game in the same ground, and the pitch looked fine (there wasn't even much trace of rugby league field markings). 
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Apparently a winter season means the passes per game is 10% more

Most importantly, I think it makes the transition to europe much easier. When you play in completely foreign conditions it is tough, you see that when our euroroos play a qualifier in the middle east and look clumsy

Nothing could help our players step up in europe more than moving to winter imo

Having said that is makes sense commercially to be in summer
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bettega - 28 Mar 2023 7:00 PM
PSC-1948 - 27 Mar 2023 10:33 AM

No doubt that a "winter" season, or one aligned with the calendar year, could effectively takes us from February to November, for a 9 month season, with at 2 or 3 months sitting outside of the NRL/AFL seasons.
We would also align with much of Asia, which is our confederation, last time I looked.

Also, if you plan it well, the A-League could have a 2 week break mid July and play European clubs as they prepare for their forthcoming season. 2 games per week in each major city managed by the APL, and some games at other cities.  A-League clubs would make massive profits. The gate alone would bring in millions

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Monoethnic Social Club - 27 Mar 2023 10:49 AM
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Your gonna hate this answer but according to the powers that be "We're Unique" hahahahahahahah 

Is that what the power that be of the NSL thought too??
Back in 1989?
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What happens this process ends up with a champions league style format?
Or an expanded NPL Championship tournament?? 

Are we satisfied? 

Would this make JJ the Messiah we all believe he will be for the sport?

So exciting. 
Will be getting the popcorn out mid-year for the big reveal. 
Gonna be like a Bachelor rose ceremony. 
🌹 🌹


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grazorblade - 28 Mar 2023 8:33 PM

Nothing could help our players step up in europe more than moving to winter imo


Are you for real?
It would make practically zero difference. 

I'd say playing 40-50 games per year would help our players a lot more. 


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Butler99 - 28 Mar 2023 8:55 PM
What happens this process ends up with a champions league style format?
Or an expanded NPL Championship tournament?? 

Are we satisfied? 

Would this make JJ the Messiah we all believe he will be for the sport?

So exciting. 
Will be getting the popcorn out mid-year for the big reveal. 
Gonna be like a Bachelor rose ceremony. 
🌹 🌹


I won't support it if it's a cl format. Happy to stay on the sidelines until I get what I want. Did me quite fine ditching the aleague.

There will always be the NT.
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Butler99 - 28 Mar 2023 8:51 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 27 Mar 2023 10:49 AM

Is that what the power that be of the NSL thought too??
Back in 1989?

pretty much.
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Butler99 - 28 Mar 2023 8:55 PM
What happens this process ends up with a champions league style format?
Or an expanded NPL Championship tournament?? 


Are we satisfied? 

Would this make JJ the Messiah we all believe he will be for the sport?

So exciting. 
Will be getting the popcorn out mid-year for the big reveal. 
Gonna be like a Bachelor rose ceremony. 
🌹 🌹

Pretty much one and the same really... 

What happens is clubs,fans, players, sponsors, volunteers will become less and less incentivesed to participate and grow... For me this will be a massive FAIL for JJ and the FA. Ill still follow my club around until they eventually fold and die through lack of interest like the super clubs of the other migrant groups (Poles, Ditch, Hungarians etc) in the 40s-50s and then, sit on the coach and only watch overseas leagues and the odd Socceroos game live.


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bohemia - 29 Mar 2023 3:07 AM
Butler99 - 28 Mar 2023 8:55 PM

I won't support it if it's a cl format. Happy to stay on the sidelines until I get what I want. Did me quite fine ditching the aleague.

There will always be the NT.

More to the point, I'm not sure how many of the EOI-32 will bother joining a CL format

AAFC (23 of the 32) firmly declared their preference for a League Format (with P/R to NPL straight up)



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Butler99 - 28 Mar 2023 8:55 PM
What happens this process ends up with a champions league style format?
Or an expanded NPL Championship tournament?? 

Are we satisfied? 

Would this make JJ the Messiah we all believe he will be for the sport?

So exciting. 
Will be getting the popcorn out mid-year for the big reveal. 
Gonna be like a Bachelor rose ceremony. 
🌹 🌹


whats your angle Butler ?
is there posts worshipping the messiah ? I'd expect its the directive more than anything else.
Whats a rose ceremony and talking football got to do with things here ?

Talking football/NST a CL format isn't a league comp as you know, don't think supporters will approve that and at the FA's peril but I like numklpkgulftumch post 3068328 makes far more sense towards the cause.


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The main purpose of the NST is to provide a standard and environment which is a quality well above the NPL and below the APL.

Professionalism will provide that opportunity and the congregation of the best 2nd tier professional clubs in the country in one league will elevate players, coaches and the clubs / organizations. The indirect outcomes will also pressure the APL to lift its game and overall provide broader opportunities for NT.

I'm going to say this. If we don't get full professionalism or one single league and the FA runs with championship style format, the NST will be a FAILURE.
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I’m not particularly tech savvy, so I’m not gonna stuff around trying to work out how to post it here, but Sydney Olympic CEO Lawrie Mckinna was recently on the SEN  program “the global game” with Simon hill and Alex brosque discussing the second division. Fairly interesting for those who want to have a listen. Sounds like the clubs themselves still don’t know all that much re the ins and outs, but he was saying they were having a meeting tomorrow (today) with the federation 
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Apparently a meeting between the clubs and the fa today according to the sydney olympic boss

any update what happened?
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LFC. - 29 Mar 2023 1:09 PM
Butler99 - 28 Mar 2023 8:55 PM

whats your angle Butler ?
is there posts worshipping the messiah ? I'd expect its the directive more than anything else.
Whats a rose ceremony and talking football got to do with things here ?

Talking football/NST a CL format isn't a league comp as you know, don't think supporters will approve that and at the FA's peril but I like numklpkgulftumch post 3068328 makes far more sense towards the cause.

Angle? 🙄 What the hell does that mean??
Simple question   
Would we be happy with only a champions league format?? For NST. 
Different potential formats have been laid on the table. 

JJ has been receiving praise for being progressive on the NST. Would we still be happy with him if all we ended up with was a champions league format??

Quite simple really. Nothing else to it. No other angles!! 😒😒

NST selection process = Bachelor rose ceremony. 
Clubs make it to next stage by receiving roses to continue in the show. 🌹🌹🌹
Don't receive a rose, you're out. 
Pretty straightforward 
If you've seen the show. 
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Butler99 - 30 Mar 2023 12:20 AM
LFC. - 29 Mar 2023 1:09 PM

Angle? 🙄 What the hell does that mean??
Simple question   
Would we be happy with only a champions league format?? For NST. 
Different potential formats have been laid on the table. 

JJ has been receiving praise for being progressive on the NST. Would we still be happy with him if all we ended up with was a champions league format??

Quite simple really. Nothing else to it. No other angles!! 😒😒

NST selection process = Bachelor rose ceremony. 
Clubs make it to next stage by receiving roses to continue in the show. 🌹🌹🌹
Don't receive a rose, you're out. 
Pretty straightforward 
If you've seen the show. 

Angle | ClipArt ETC

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grazorblade - 29 Mar 2023 8:41 PM
Apparently a meeting between the clubs and the fa today according to the sydney olympic boss

any update what happened?

Interesting, does anyone have any news?
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Butler99 - 30 Mar 2023 12:20 AM
LFC. - 29 Mar 2023 1:09 PM

Angle? 🙄 What the hell does that mean??
Simple question   
Would we be happy with only a champions league format?? For NST. 
Different potential formats have been laid on the table. 

JJ has been receiving praise for being progressive on the NST. Would we still be happy with him if all we ended up with was a champions league format??

Quite simple really. Nothing else to it. No other angles!! 😒😒

NST selection process = Bachelor rose ceremony. 
Clubs make it to next stage by receiving roses to continue in the show. 🌹🌹🌹
Don't receive a rose, you're out. 
Pretty straightforward 
If you've seen the show. 

NOPE.... huge missed opportunity and a worthless excersie if this happens.  (my opinion)

Also, about "the Bachelor" Football fans in Australia are all under 30 and DON'T watch FTA television mate, we are all "streamers" haven't you been "Keeping up"? hahahahahahah
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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Mar 2023 9:41 AM
Butler99 - 30 Mar 2023 12:20 AM

NOPE.... huge missed opportunity and a worthless excersie if this happens.  (my opinion)

Also, about "the Bachelor" Football fans in Australia are all under 30 and DON'T watch FTA television mate, we are all "streamers" haven't you been "Keeping up"? hahahahahahah

😂😂



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More to the point, I'm not sure how many of the EOI-32 will bother joining a CL format

AAFC (23 of the 32) firmly declared their preference for a League Format (with P/R to NPL straight up)



Correct me if I've misinterpreted the FA, but doesn't a CL format imply that it is to be played by champions? I interpret it to be essentially a knockout comp where the winners of the various NPL's compete for a trophy. If they can't get 10 suitable clubs, then the bids are no longer relevant as they are bidding for a full league not a knockout comp. A CL format is only a small number of games, so clubs wouldn't need to meet any of the requirements that the NST would. It would just be a short comp for the champions. It may not be preferred, but I can't imagine any club declining to compete in a national CL.
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Butler99 - 30 Mar 2023 12:20 AM
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Angle? 🙄 What the hell does that mean??
Simple question   
Would we be happy with only a champions league format?? For NST. 
Different potential formats have been laid on the table. 

JJ has been receiving praise for being progressive on the NST. Would we still be happy with him if all we ended up with was a champions league format??

Quite simple really. Nothing else to it. No other angles!! 😒😒

NST selection process = Bachelor rose ceremony. 
Clubs make it to next stage by receiving roses to continue in the show. 🌹🌹🌹
Don't receive a rose, you're out. 
Pretty straightforward 
If you've seen the show. 

just trying to understand your posts for at times I read like "good luck" this ever occurs and condecending if I can express it this way without coming across rude.
paulie thanks for another pic addition, noted :) maybe the oooozo intake haha

Simple question you ask - NO not in favour of a CL format thats a Cup format as you know not a league comp and I hope they have enough Clubs to make it a PROPER comp.
Thats at JJ's peril and think this will put the messiah in a catch22 situation, it may suit some supporters as better than nothing I suspect, not sure maybe thaty will apply to some of the Clubs as well we wait and see.

Ah the FTA reality phenomenon, yer soz don't watch them.
People get given a rose eh, cute.


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someguyjc - 30 Mar 2023 11:05 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 29 Mar 2023 12:43 PM

Correct me if I've misinterpreted the FA, but doesn't a CL format imply that it is to be played by champions? I interpret it to be essentially a knockout comp where the winners of the various NPL's compete for a trophy. If they can't get 10 suitable clubs, then the bids are no longer relevant as they are bidding for a full league not a knockout comp. A CL format is only a small number of games, so clubs wouldn't need to meet any of the requirements that the NST would. It would just be a short comp for the champions. It may not be preferred, but I can't imagine any club declining to compete in a national CL.

No-one is bidding, they'll be applying, and only applying for what the FA actually offer.

Here's what the FA stated, so Yes it would seem like that the kind of competition is envisaged by FA if the League format is a no-go



Personally, that's fine and someone will end up with a trophy but it would seem to be fairly pointless and not achieve anything that the NST concept has been pushed for

AAFC had the following observations when looking at this option



 
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Glenardo - 29 Mar 2023 8:03 PM
I’m not particularly tech savvy, so I’m not gonna stuff around trying to work out how to post it here, but Sydney Olympic CEO Lawrie Mckinna was recently on the SEN  program “the global game” with Simon hill and Alex brosque discussing the second division. Fairly interesting for those who want to have a listen. Sounds like the clubs themselves still don’t know all that much re the ins and outs, but he was saying they were having a meeting tomorrow (today) with the federation 

https://dcs.megaphone.fm/NTETP8461994492.mp3?key=c57034b2b0dc495f4ac9a7835d67e3b6&request_event_id=c202a468-058e-47fa-8e81-6a26412f2cee&source=3

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Butler99 - 30 Mar 2023 12:20 AM

just trying to understand your posts for at times I read like "good luck" this ever occurs and condecending if I can express it this way without coming across rude.
paulie thanks for another pic addition, noted :) maybe the oooozo intake haha

Simple question you ask - NO not in favour of a CL format thats a Cup format as you know not a league comp and I hope they have enough Clubs to make it a PROPER comp.
Thats at JJ's peril and think this will put the messiah in a catch22 situation, it may suit some supporters as better than nothing I suspect, not sure maybe thaty will apply to some of the Clubs as well we wait and see.

Ah the FTA reality phenomenon, yer soz don't watch them.
People get given a rose eh, cute.

A pleasure, thought you might have needed a hand. 😉 
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Adam Peacock starting the 'Feature Articles' from the NST aspirants

Sasa Agnevoski and the Preston Lions



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