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As it’s a natural progression of the NPL, adapting NPL into the naming would make sense. It’s not affiliated with the A-Leagues, so calling it A-Leagues 2/A-League 2/A2-League doesn’t make sense. Neither does [letter]-League. Here are a handful of suggestions: National Premier Championship (NPC) National Premier Division (NPD) National Championship League (NCL) NP-League (Adopting the A-League naming format, though it’s not really different to the existing NPL) Australian Football Premier League (AFPL - bit of a mouthful) Football Australia League (FAL) Football Australia Championship (FAC) Australian Premier League Football (APLF) Australian Football Championship (AFC - the irony of this acronym) Australian Football Conference (AFC)
National Football Championship (NFC) Australian National Football Championship (ANFC) NPL Australia (NPLA)
If we consider that like the EFL (English Football League) is the tiers under the English Premier League, Australia uses NPL to distinguish the tiers below the A-League.
The name for the said league would then be NPL [division name].
I honestly can’t pick one. As soon as I think one sounds ok, I jump to a different one.
Thoughts? Why not just A2. Most of the names you listed there don't even make sense to be honest. No link to A1 though what would be the point?
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NPL sounds good to me :)
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As it’s a natural progression of the NPL, adapting NPL into the naming would make sense. It’s not affiliated with the A-Leagues, so calling it A-Leagues 2/A-League 2/A2-League doesn’t make sense. Neither does [letter]-League. Here are a handful of suggestions: National Premier Championship (NPC) National Premier Division (NPD) National Championship League (NCL) NP-League (Adopting the A-League naming format, though it’s not really different to the existing NPL) Australian Football Premier League (AFPL - bit of a mouthful) Football Australia League (FAL) Football Australia Championship (FAC) Australian Premier League Football (APLF) Australian Football Championship (AFC - the irony of this acronym) Australian Football Conference (AFC)
National Football Championship (NFC) Australian National Football Championship (ANFC) NPL Australia (NPLA)
If we consider that like the EFL (English Football League) is the tiers under the English Premier League, Australia uses NPL to distinguish the tiers below the A-League.
The name for the said league would then be NPL [division name].
I honestly can’t pick one. As soon as I think one sounds ok, I jump to a different one.
Thoughts? Why not just A2. Most of the names you listed there don't even make sense to be honest. Agree
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As it’s a natural progression of the NPL, adapting NPL into the naming would make sense. It’s not affiliated with the A-Leagues, so calling it A-Leagues 2/A-League 2/A2-League doesn’t make sense. Neither does [letter]-League. Here are a handful of suggestions: National Premier Championship (NPC) National Premier Division (NPD) National Championship League (NCL) NP-League (Adopting the A-League naming format, though it’s not really different to the existing NPL) Australian Football Premier League (AFPL - bit of a mouthful) Football Australia League (FAL) Football Australia Championship (FAC) Australian Premier League Football (APLF) Australian Football Championship (AFC - the irony of this acronym) Australian Football Conference (AFC)
National Football Championship (NFC) Australian National Football Championship (ANFC) NPL Australia (NPLA)
If we consider that like the EFL (English Football League) is the tiers under the English Premier League, Australia uses NPL to distinguish the tiers below the A-League.
The name for the said league would then be NPL [division name].
I honestly can’t pick one. As soon as I think one sounds ok, I jump to a different one.
Thoughts? Why not just A2. Most of the names you listed there don't even make sense to be honest. No link to A1 though what would be the point? I guess a possible point would be as a declaration for P&R with A1. Like you said, if there is no link it would be a really dumb naming choice. By calling it A2 it sends a pretty clear message to the clubs and fans.
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As it’s a natural progression of the NPL, adapting NPL into the naming would make sense. It’s not affiliated with the A-Leagues, so calling it A-Leagues 2/A-League 2/A2-League doesn’t make sense. Neither does [letter]-League. Here are a handful of suggestions: National Premier Championship (NPC) National Premier Division (NPD) National Championship League (NCL) NP-League (Adopting the A-League naming format, though it’s not really different to the existing NPL) Australian Football Premier League (AFPL - bit of a mouthful) Football Australia League (FAL) Football Australia Championship (FAC) Australian Premier League Football (APLF) Australian Football Championship (AFC - the irony of this acronym) Australian Football Conference (AFC)
National Football Championship (NFC) Australian National Football Championship (ANFC) NPL Australia (NPLA)
If we consider that like the EFL (English Football League) is the tiers under the English Premier League, Australia uses NPL to distinguish the tiers below the A-League.
The name for the said league would then be NPL [division name].
I honestly can’t pick one. As soon as I think one sounds ok, I jump to a different one.
Thoughts? Why not just A2. Most of the names you listed there don't even make sense to be honest. No link to A1 though what would be the point? I guess a possible point would be as a declaration for P&R with A1. Like you said, if there is no link it would be a really dumb naming choice. By calling it A2 it sends a pretty clear message to the clubs and fans. I still believe this will be the "tell" of FAs intentions.. what they decide to run with as a name for this league will signal what the actual league is destined to become.
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Call it the NSL and separate from A L There's more money and interest in setting up a best of 3 All star series between the two leagues
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https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-moves-request-proposal-phase-national-second-tier-processUpon receiving these materials and following a thorough briefing, the clubs will confirm their intent to submit a proposal and will have until early August to finalise their submissions. This will mark the conclusion of the RFP phase, with the Assessment and Review Phase scheduled to commence in August, and the Completion Phase slated for September.
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Missed this back on May 15 Peninsula Power says it was “very surprised” and “disappointed” at not making the second stage of selection for the new National Second Tier competition. In a statement last night, Power said Football Australia (FA) “has not provided a debrief or feedback on our application, so we cannot provide any further information at this stage”. When the Moreton Daily inquired, the FA said: “While we don’t provide public commentary on each application, the club’s EOI Response did not fulfil the EOI Response evaluation criteria.” Thirty-two clubs submitted Expressions of Interest (EOI), including Power which for several years had made no secret of wishing to join the new league. https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/powers-surprise-at-fa-decision
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+xMissed this back on May 15 Peninsula Power says it was “very surprised” and “disappointed” at not making the second stage of selection for the new National Second Tier competition. In a statement last night, Power said Football Australia (FA) “has not provided a debrief or feedback on our application, so we cannot provide any further information at this stage”. When the Moreton Daily inquired, the FA said: “While we don’t provide public commentary on each application, the club’s EOI Response did not fulfil the EOI Response evaluation criteria.” Thirty-two clubs submitted Expressions of Interest (EOI), including Power which for several years had made no secret of wishing to join the new league. https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/powers-surprise-at-fa-decision I think we will see a fair bit of this over the next few months, its going to be a tough ask to whittle 26 down to 10-16. I think the only saving grace will be if there is a "plan" for the clubs that dont make the cut that is appealing enough to make them accept the decision.. Hoping it means the announcement in September will be 14 clubs for NST are xyz and the pathway for promotion to this comp in 2025 is xyz....... Looking forward to "how" this comp is announced... September, finals time in Australian Football, with the Aleagues pty ltd yet to commence and no word on the horizon of any expansion interest for new franchises... Could be a pivotal moment for the FAs intentions.... I wonder what the APLs response is going to be when this league finally gets off the ground? Waiting for the Rugari "don't look at the NST, look over here" article due anytime now.
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+x+xMissed this back on May 15 Peninsula Power says it was “very surprised” and “disappointed” at not making the second stage of selection for the new National Second Tier competition. In a statement last night, Power said Football Australia (FA) “has not provided a debrief or feedback on our application, so we cannot provide any further information at this stage”. When the Moreton Daily inquired, the FA said: “While we don’t provide public commentary on each application, the club’s EOI Response did not fulfil the EOI Response evaluation criteria.” Thirty-two clubs submitted Expressions of Interest (EOI), including Power which for several years had made no secret of wishing to join the new league. https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/powers-surprise-at-fa-decision I think we will see a fair bit of this over the next few months, its going to be a tough ask to whittle 26 down to 10-16. I think the only saving grace will be if there is a "plan" for the clubs that dont make the cut that is appealing enough to make them accept the decision.. There'll be nothing from the FA til the final announcement All we'll hear is maybe if a club announces that they've chosen not to carry on. The remaining phases of the NST Application Process will be conducted confidentially, with Football Australia appointing accounting and advisory experts, BDO, as an independent third party to assist.
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+x+xMissed this back on May 15 Peninsula Power says it was “very surprised” and “disappointed” at not making the second stage of selection for the new National Second Tier competition. In a statement last night, Power said Football Australia (FA) “has not provided a debrief or feedback on our application, so we cannot provide any further information at this stage”. When the Moreton Daily inquired, the FA said: “While we don’t provide public commentary on each application, the club’s EOI Response did not fulfil the EOI Response evaluation criteria.” Thirty-two clubs submitted Expressions of Interest (EOI), including Power which for several years had made no secret of wishing to join the new league. https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/powers-surprise-at-fa-decision Hoping it means the announcement in September will be 14 clubs for NST are xyz and the pathway for promotion to this comp in 2025 is xyz....... There'll be no announcement beyond the starting line up, FA clearly stated P/R with NPL to be only considered later
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+x+x+xMissed this back on May 15 Peninsula Power says it was “very surprised” and “disappointed” at not making the second stage of selection for the new National Second Tier competition. In a statement last night, Power said Football Australia (FA) “has not provided a debrief or feedback on our application, so we cannot provide any further information at this stage”. When the Moreton Daily inquired, the FA said: “While we don’t provide public commentary on each application, the club’s EOI Response did not fulfil the EOI Response evaluation criteria.” Thirty-two clubs submitted Expressions of Interest (EOI), including Power which for several years had made no secret of wishing to join the new league. https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/powers-surprise-at-fa-decision Hoping it means the announcement in September will be 14 clubs for NST are xyz and the pathway for promotion to this comp in 2025 is xyz....... There'll be no announcement beyond the starting line up, FA clearly stated P/R with NPL to be only considered later True enough but .... who knows, I guess its all down to how many rabbits they can pull out of the hat? If they cull 10-12 clubs that only just missed out, they will have to give them something to aim for..... I hope.
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+x+x+x+xMissed this back on May 15 Peninsula Power says it was “very surprised” and “disappointed” at not making the second stage of selection for the new National Second Tier competition. In a statement last night, Power said Football Australia (FA) “has not provided a debrief or feedback on our application, so we cannot provide any further information at this stage”. When the Moreton Daily inquired, the FA said: “While we don’t provide public commentary on each application, the club’s EOI Response did not fulfil the EOI Response evaluation criteria.” Thirty-two clubs submitted Expressions of Interest (EOI), including Power which for several years had made no secret of wishing to join the new league. https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/powers-surprise-at-fa-decision Hoping it means the announcement in September will be 14 clubs for NST are xyz and the pathway for promotion to this comp in 2025 is xyz....... There'll be no announcement beyond the starting line up, FA clearly stated P/R with NPL to be only considered later True enough but .... who knows, I guess its all down to how many rabbits they can pull out of the hat? If they cull 10-12 clubs that only just missed out, they will have to give them something to aim for..... I hope. There’s your division three …. easy.
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+x+x+x+x+xMissed this back on May 15 Peninsula Power says it was “very surprised” and “disappointed” at not making the second stage of selection for the new National Second Tier competition. In a statement last night, Power said Football Australia (FA) “has not provided a debrief or feedback on our application, so we cannot provide any further information at this stage”. When the Moreton Daily inquired, the FA said: “While we don’t provide public commentary on each application, the club’s EOI Response did not fulfil the EOI Response evaluation criteria.” Thirty-two clubs submitted Expressions of Interest (EOI), including Power which for several years had made no secret of wishing to join the new league. https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/powers-surprise-at-fa-decision Hoping it means the announcement in September will be 14 clubs for NST are xyz and the pathway for promotion to this comp in 2025 is xyz....... There'll be no announcement beyond the starting line up, FA clearly stated P/R with NPL to be only considered later True enough but .... who knows, I guess its all down to how many rabbits they can pull out of the hat? If they cull 10-12 clubs that only just missed out, they will have to give them something to aim for..... I hope. There’s your division three …. easy. Division 2 mate, the APL doesnt want to be linked with the old soccer, pumpkin seed eating effniks :) The cheese stands alone!!!!!!!!! Maybe they can re-hash the old Youth League concept one last time to see if it has legs?
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Nick Galatas (AAFC Chair) on FNR. https://soundcloud.com/fnr_footballnationradio/nick-galatas-the-state-of-ourMy Highlight. : He feels the best part of this all is that all these clubs have got together to push this, despite knowing that half of them won't get in.
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"A Bank Guarantee is an undertaking by the Bank that payments to your customers and suppliers will be met, without tying up working capital. The Bank holds your cash or assets as security for the guarantee. You provide your supplier with the guarantee instead of cash."
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In the absence of any published information from the FA during the confidential process here is what the AAFC proposed model suggested FA paying centralised costs including pooled travel, being partially funded by Club Participation Fee  Page 41 http://www.australianfootballclubs.org.au/uploads/9/8/8/1/9881717/aafc_nsd_final_report__22.02.22_.pdf
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"However, if any club wishes to withdraw from the RFP process at any stage, they are at full liberty to do so" Something about the FA attitude bugs me here. I understand FA are a bit busy right at this moment, so maybe just the work-experience kid got this gig 
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What the AAFC proposed and what the FA are building are likely to be two very different things. It's possible things like pooled expenses are included in the final structure, but that report was just something the AAFC put together and has zero bearing on what the structure will look like. If I were a betting man, I'd say there will be some level of centralised pooled costs, but hard to say at what level.
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+xWhat the AAFC proposed and what the FA are building are likely to be two very different things. It's possible things like pooled expenses are included in the final structure, but that report was just something the AAFC put together and has zero bearing on what the structure will look like. If I were a betting man, I'd say there will be some level of centralised pooled costs, but hard to say at what level. Why are they 'likely to be very different' ? Seems very logical and straightforward to me. the other option is FA telling each club to organise their own travel, This would bring down criticism for a. favouring the SouthEast Metropolitans b. losing the chance to 'bulk-buy' discount with airline's and hotel chains.
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+x+xWhat the AAFC proposed and what the FA are building are likely to be two very different things. It's possible things like pooled expenses are included in the final structure, but that report was just something the AAFC put together and has zero bearing on what the structure will look like. If I were a betting man, I'd say there will be some level of centralised pooled costs, but hard to say at what level. Why are they 'likely to be very different' ?Seems very logical and straightforward to me.the other option is FA telling each club to organise their own travel, This would bring down criticism for a. favouring the SouthEast Metropolitans b. losing the chance to 'bulk-buy' discount with airline's and hotel chains. One is essentially a wishlist put together by an organisation that won't be running the league. The other is the final structure put together by the organisation that is actually going to own and operate the league. Maybe my use of the words 'very different' is a bit of an exaggeration, but there will definitely be differences. That AAFC report was put together without knowing what specific clubs would be involved, without knowing what the financial capabilities of the clubs is nor what the FA's financial capabilities will be. Also, logic usually takes a backseat when talking about football administration and governance in this country. Otherwise we would have basic things in place like a national transfer and loans system, let alone things like P&R.
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+x+x+xWhat the AAFC proposed and what the FA are building are likely to be two very different things. It's possible things like pooled expenses are included in the final structure, but that report was just something the AAFC put together and has zero bearing on what the structure will look like. If I were a betting man, I'd say there will be some level of centralised pooled costs, but hard to say at what level. Why are they 'likely to be very different' ?Seems very logical and straightforward to me.the other option is FA telling each club to organise their own travel, This would bring down criticism for a. favouring the SouthEast Metropolitans b. losing the chance to 'bulk-buy' discount with airline's and hotel chains. One is essentially a wishlist put together by an organisation that won't be running the league. The other is the final structure put together by the organisation that is actually going to own and operate the league. Maybe my use of the words 'very different' is a bit of an exaggeration, but there will definitely be differences. That AAFC report was put together without knowing what specific clubs would be involved, without knowing what the financial capabilities of the clubs is nor what the FA's financial capabilities will be. Also, logic usually takes a backseat when talking about football administration and governance in this country. Otherwise we would have basic things in place like a national transfer and loans system, let alone things like P&R. Thats not reflective of the financial modelling the AAFC have done though mate. Sure they would not have eyes on the specific clubs to be involved but they did model their "wish list" after consulting the clubs that would more than likely be involved....
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+x+xWhat the AAFC proposed and what the FA are building are likely to be two very different things. It's possible things like pooled expenses are included in the final structure, but that report was just something the AAFC put together and has zero bearing on what the structure will look like. If I were a betting man, I'd say there will be some level of centralised pooled costs, but hard to say at what level. Why are they 'likely to be very different' ? Seems very logical and straightforward to me. the other option is FA telling each club to organise their own travel, This would bring down criticism for a. favouring the SouthEast Metropolitans b. losing the chance to 'bulk-buy' discount with airline's and hotel chains. Hope they dont book with Bonza.... this thing will never "get off the ground" - pun intended....
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APIA also calling it the B League "𝐇𝐄𝐀𝐃𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐓𝐎𝐖𝐀𝐑𝐃𝐒 𝐍𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍𝐀𝐋 𝐒𝐄𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐃 𝐃𝐈𝐕𝐈𝐒𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐓𝐔𝐒….. 𝑨𝑷𝑰𝑨 𝑳𝑬𝑰𝑪𝑯𝑯𝑨𝑹𝑫𝑻 𝑭𝑶𝑶𝑻𝑩𝑨𝑳𝑳 𝑪𝑳𝑼𝑩 𝑷𝑻𝒀 𝑳𝑻𝑫. Earlier this year Football Australia (FA) invited football Clubs from all over Australia to make an application to gain entry into the National Second Division to be known as The B League.
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+x"A Bank Guarantee is an undertaking by the Bank that payments to your customers and suppliers will be met, without tying up working capital. The Bank holds your cash or assets as security for the guarantee. You provide your supplier with the guarantee instead of cash." Again from APIA Seeming confirmation that it is a $500k Bank Guarantee, NOT up front cash, in order to be considered As a part of proving the financial viability of the Club, a critical criteria in assuring participation in the B League, the FA require the Club to lodge a Bank Guarantee in the sum of $500,000.00 with FA.
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clubs by now would of sent over the $500k Bank / security Guarantee.
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+xclubs by now would of sent over the $500k Bank / security Guarantee. would be interesting to see who's left standing. FA require all applicants to submit a completed Bank Template Form in relation to the provision of a Bank Guarantee to the FA by Wednesday 16 August 2023.
Thereafter the Club is required to submit further documents (a Bid Document) by Monday, 28 August 2023.
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+x+xclubs by now would of sent over the $500k Bank / security Guarantee. would be interesting to see who's left standing. FA require all applicants to submit a completed Bank Template Form in relation to the provision of a Bank Guarantee to the FA by Wednesday 16 August 2023.
Thereafter the Club is required to submit further documents (a Bid Document) by Monday, 28 August 2023.  82 page questionnaire / report apparently
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So, 2 months behind schedule at the moment How much wiggle room is there ? How late can it go for a March 2024 kickoff ?
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+xSo, 2 months behind schedule at the moment How much wiggle room is there ? How late can it go for a March 2024 kickoff ? i dont see the competition commencing in march, unless they do a champions league format for next year.
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