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+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ?
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+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves.
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+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Exactly.. Telling a club in QLD NPL that if they announce a bid for NSD means that they are out of "the schedule" for next years NPL means if they are NOT accepted then they would not have a league to play in for 2024 ... why would the FAs do this if not to scare clubs from even trying to apply? BTW Im hearing that Sutherland Sharks bid is going to be announced soon too and that theya re a pretty serious lock.... momentum is slow but growing.
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+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum where did you hear about Canberra Croatia? Nothing has been confirmed on their socials. https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8333934/national-second-tier-waiting-game-begins-as-canberra-croatia-confirms-submission/
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+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United
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+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. Preposterous I agree but it it DOES benefit both the FA QLD and the APL if a rival Brisbane club doesn't "appear" in a market which has disenfranchised fans of the Aleague looking for a football fix on the national stage.
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Teams must vote to leave the old Federation structures, get advise on how it can be done.
FA can create a new NST 1 & 2 to house them if it's realistically possible.
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+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United Oh and a quick reminder/history lesson that this sort of gaslighting is typical in Australian Soccer. After the NSL season ended and the comp was disbanded in early 2004 the VPL refused to admit South and Melbourne Knights (I think?) for the new 2004 season just starting because Whittlesea Stallions cock-head president would have been forced to reprint a few fridge magnets with fixtures on them!!!!!!!! (at least that was the official, non- vindictive reason given at the time) Both clubs had to wait till the 2005 season, almost 14 months WITHOUT FOOTBALL to be admitted to the VPL. This almost destroyed South, mass player exodus, tin can rattling going on trying to keep the lights on, facing an uncertain future in the state league (If they even let us back in) 14 months with no membership income, no gate takings, no competition to build towards.... almost no club... We survived but how will much smaller clubs?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United Oh and a quick reminder/history lesson that this sort of gaslighting is typical in Australian Soccer. After the NSL season ended and the comp was disbanded in early 2004 the VPL refused to admit South and Melbourne Knights (I think?) for the new 2004 season just starting because Whittlesea Stallions cock-head president would have been forced to reprint a few fridge magnets with fixtures on them!!!!!!!! (at least that was the official, non- vindictive reason given at the time) Both clubs had to wait till the 2005 season, almost 14 months WITHOUT FOOTBALL to be admitted to the VPL. This almost destroyed South, mass player exodus, tin can rattling going on trying to keep the lights on, facing an uncertain future in the state league (If they even let us back in) 14 months with no membership income, no gate takings, no competition to build towards.... almost no club... We survived but how will much smaller clubs? If that FA QLD rumor is true, it will be yet another reminder of how antiquated the state feds have become. Even if it's just a hollow threat, it still highlights how malicious they could be just to remain relevant. The more boards there are, the more issues there are.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United Oh and a quick reminder/history lesson that this sort of gaslighting is typical in Australian Soccer. After the NSL season ended and the comp was disbanded in early 2004 the VPL refused to admit South and Melbourne Knights (I think?) for the new 2004 season just starting because Whittlesea Stallions cock-head president would have been forced to reprint a few fridge magnets with fixtures on them!!!!!!!! (at least that was the official, non- vindictive reason given at the time) Both clubs had to wait till the 2005 season, almost 14 months WITHOUT FOOTBALL to be admitted to the VPL. This almost destroyed South, mass player exodus, tin can rattling going on trying to keep the lights on, facing an uncertain future in the state league (If they even let us back in) 14 months with no membership income, no gate takings, no competition to build towards.... almost no club... We survived but how will much smaller clubs? If that FA QLD rumor is true, it will be yet another reminder of how antiquated the state feds have become. Even if it's just a hollow threat, it still highlights how malicious they could be just to remain relevant. The more boards there are, the more issues there are. Im hearing there is a "shuffling" going on at FA VIC as we speak for this very reason also. One faction wants the NPLs to accommodate pro/rel with the NSD as fast as possible so that ALL clubs can drive upwards and another, reportedly the one being shunted out (Inshallah), wants to "close the door" to any club who competes in the NST. Effectively meaning if it fails (which they obviously hope) VIC clubs will have to start again in the Victorian Pyramid and re-apply through state leagues .... unlike their Aleague franchise U23 academy failures may I add....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United Oh and a quick reminder/history lesson that this sort of gaslighting is typical in Australian Soccer. After the NSL season ended and the comp was disbanded in early 2004 the VPL refused to admit South and Melbourne Knights (I think?) for the new 2004 season just starting because Whittlesea Stallions cock-head president would have been forced to reprint a few fridge magnets with fixtures on them!!!!!!!! (at least that was the official, non- vindictive reason given at the time) Both clubs had to wait till the 2005 season, almost 14 months WITHOUT FOOTBALL to be admitted to the VPL. This almost destroyed South, mass player exodus, tin can rattling going on trying to keep the lights on, facing an uncertain future in the state league (If they even let us back in) 14 months with no membership income, no gate takings, no competition to build towards.... almost no club... We survived but how will much smaller clubs? If that FA QLD rumor is true, it will be yet another reminder of how antiquated the state feds have become. Even if it's just a hollow threat, it still highlights how malicious they could be just to remain relevant. The more boards there are, the more issues there are. yep very true, much like the copious layers from local Council to State politcs. I understand the State Feds looking to protect their revenue but this should have been addressed long long ago by the FA and them all at the very least. Have the State Feds sat back till only now waiting on which Club/entity has kept applying and getting through the stages before they make these moves of threat ? Just frigging low as, as mentioned each at the trough now will make things hard - FA need to pull their Fed mates in wouldn't you think ?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. The Brisbane United bid circumvents this issue. Strikers and Wynnum are 'foundation members' and Virginia are 'Tier 1 members' they aren't applying as an existing club None of them are going to relinquish their places in the Queensland ecosystem. I don't know how the FA are allowing this kind of bid in. (inc Sharks and SA), given other clubs applying will be forced out of their current league by the criteria But that's a seperate issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0p37zijo&t=15s
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. The Brisbane United bid circumvents this issue. Strikers and Wynnum are 'foundation members' and Virginia are 'Tier 1 members' they aren't applying as an existing club None of them are going to relinquish their places in the Queensland ecosystem. I don't know how the FA are allowing this kind of bid in. (inc Sharks and SA), given other clubs applying will be forced out of their current league by the criteria But that's a seperate issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0p37zijo&t=15s Yeah mate, that was from 5 months ago and was the understanding at the time... I hear they are now "back flipping" on their original good intentions...?!?!!? honestly dont know if true or not but wouldnt be surprised considering Rabbiehs butting heads with Football QLD before.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United Oh and a quick reminder/history lesson that this sort of gaslighting is typical in Australian Soccer. After the NSL season ended and the comp was disbanded in early 2004 the VPL refused to admit South and Melbourne Knights (I think?) for the new 2004 season just starting because Whittlesea Stallions cock-head president would have been forced to reprint a few fridge magnets with fixtures on them!!!!!!!! (at least that was the official, non- vindictive reason given at the time) Both clubs had to wait till the 2005 season, almost 14 months WITHOUT FOOTBALL to be admitted to the VPL. This almost destroyed South, mass player exodus, tin can rattling going on trying to keep the lights on, facing an uncertain future in the state league (If they even let us back in) 14 months with no membership income, no gate takings, no competition to build towards.... almost no club... We survived but how will much smaller clubs? If that FA QLD rumor is true, it will be yet another reminder of how antiquated the state feds have become. Even if it's just a hollow threat, it still highlights how malicious they could be just to remain relevant. The more boards there are, the more issues there are. Have the State Feds sat back till only now waiting on which Club/entity has kept applying and getting through the stages before they make these moves of threat ? Just frigging low as, as mentioned each at the trough now will make things hard - FA need to pull their Fed mates in wouldn't you think ? FA needs to do a lot of things, but the main reason we have state feds is so the FA can shift responsibility off of themselves. What I would like to see is, alongside the announcement of the NST, they should also announce the DTS (even if it's to be introduced in a year or so). That would be a significant olive branch to the non-NST clubs. That way money can actually start flowing back down.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United Oh and a quick reminder/history lesson that this sort of gaslighting is typical in Australian Soccer. After the NSL season ended and the comp was disbanded in early 2004 the VPL refused to admit South and Melbourne Knights (I think?) for the new 2004 season just starting because Whittlesea Stallions cock-head president would have been forced to reprint a few fridge magnets with fixtures on them!!!!!!!! (at least that was the official, non- vindictive reason given at the time) Both clubs had to wait till the 2005 season, almost 14 months WITHOUT FOOTBALL to be admitted to the VPL. This almost destroyed South, mass player exodus, tin can rattling going on trying to keep the lights on, facing an uncertain future in the state league (If they even let us back in) 14 months with no membership income, no gate takings, no competition to build towards.... almost no club... We survived but how will much smaller clubs? If that FA QLD rumor is true, it will be yet another reminder of how antiquated the state feds have become. Even if it's just a hollow threat, it still highlights how malicious they could be just to remain relevant. The more boards there are, the more issues there are. Have the State Feds sat back till only now waiting on which Club/entity has kept applying and getting through the stages before they make these moves of threat ? Just frigging low as, as mentioned each at the trough now will make things hard - FA need to pull their Fed mates in wouldn't you think ? FA needs to do a lot of things, but the main reason we have state feds is so the FA can shift responsibility off of themselves. What I would like to see is, alongside the announcement of the NST, they should also announce the DTS (even if it's to be introduced in a year or so). That would be a significant olive branch to the non-NST clubs. That way money can actually start flowing back down. agreed ! I'm just staggered despite the FA having its levels of command when your looking to introduce a NEW whatever you need to also have plans on filling in the "gaps". It staggers me to think a leader of James Johnson's experience hasn't covered all the base's introducing a NSD and the knock off effects it cause's the the existing NPL and have his State Feds armed for action instead of reaction...... I just don't get this whole uniformed outlook by our governance unless we're all mistaken and more info comes to be but yer....I doubt it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. The Brisbane United bid circumvents this issue. Strikers and Wynnum are 'foundation members' and Virginia are 'Tier 1 members' they aren't applying as an existing club None of them are going to relinquish their places in the Queensland ecosystem. I don't know how the FA are allowing this kind of bid in. (inc Sharks and SA), given other clubs applying will be forced out of their current league by the criteria But that's a seperate issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0p37zijo&t=15s Yeah mate, that was from 5 months ago and was the understanding at the time... I hear they are now "back flipping" on their original good intentions...?!?!!? honestly dont know if true or not but wouldnt be surprised considering Rabbiehs butting heads with Football QLD before. Who is backflipping ?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. The Brisbane United bid circumvents this issue. Strikers and Wynnum are 'foundation members' and Virginia are 'Tier 1 members' they aren't applying as an existing club None of them are going to relinquish their places in the Queensland ecosystem. I don't know how the FA are allowing this kind of bid in. (inc Sharks and SA), given other clubs applying will be forced out of their current league by the criteria But that's a seperate issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0p37zijo&t=15s Yeah mate, that was from 5 months ago and was the understanding at the time... I hear they are now "back flipping" on their original good intentions...?!?!!? honestly dont know if true or not but wouldnt be surprised considering Rabbiehs butting heads with Football QLD before. Who is backflipping ? Well the rumour is Football QLD (or whatever the acronym is these days). Also (and again these are rumours) Brisbane Olympic and Gold Coast Knights were told that if they went ahead with the final bid for the NSD they would NOT be considered on the roster of teams lined up to play NPL QLD in 2024, OR something along the lines of playing fixtures will be drawn up without them..... Both these clubs may have bid with the realistic expectation that they may not get into NSD and that they would then play where they were.... Federation basically telling them to decide if they are in or out......
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. The Brisbane United bid circumvents this issue. Strikers and Wynnum are 'foundation members' and Virginia are 'Tier 1 members' they aren't applying as an existing club None of them are going to relinquish their places in the Queensland ecosystem. I don't know how the FA are allowing this kind of bid in. (inc Sharks and SA), given other clubs applying will be forced out of their current league by the criteria But that's a seperate issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0p37zijo&t=15s Yeah mate, that was from 5 months ago and was the understanding at the time... I hear they are now "back flipping" on their original good intentions...?!?!!? honestly dont know if true or not but wouldnt be surprised considering Rabbiehs butting heads with Football QLD before. Who is backflipping ? Well the rumour is Football QLD (or whatever the acronym is these days). Also (and again these are rumours) Brisbane Olympic and Gold Coast Knights were told that if they went ahead with the final bid for the NSD they would NOT be considered on the roster of teams lined up to play NPL QLD in 2024, OR something along the lines of playing fixtures will be drawn up without them..... Both these clubs may have bid with the realistic expectation that they may not get into NSD and that they would then play where they were.... Federation basically telling them to decide if they are in or out...... If this is true what a farking joke. No wonder nothing will ever be achieved in Australia football when you've got federations throwing their toys out of the pram because some of their teams have ambition.
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Gold Coast Knights and Olympic may as well confirm they're staying in the NPL because they have close to zero chance for the NSD with the better alternatives.
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In the end NPL belongs to FA, run by State Feds on behalf of FA.
One would think the FA has the power to intervene
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+xGold Coast Knights and Olympic may as well confirm they're staying in the NPL because they have close to zero chance for the NSD with the better alternatives. They already confirmed they're not sending eois
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+xIn the end NPL belongs to FA, run by State Feds on behalf of FA. One would think the FA has the power to intervene I sincerely hope so Arthur. If FA is genuine in their desire to have this competition be as successful as it can be then the handbrake of dissenting Federations needs to be "released" somehow.
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+x+xGold Coast Knights and Olympic may as well confirm they're staying in the NPL because they have close to zero chance for the NSD with the better alternatives. They already confirmed they're not sending eois They sent EOIs (Phase 1), you mean RFPs ?
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Any word from our South Australian friends?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. The Brisbane United bid circumvents this issue. Strikers and Wynnum are 'foundation members' and Virginia are 'Tier 1 members' they aren't applying as an existing club None of them are going to relinquish their places in the Queensland ecosystem. I don't know how the FA are allowing this kind of bid in. (inc Sharks and SA), given other clubs applying will be forced out of their current league by the criteria But that's a seperate issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0p37zijo&t=15s Yeah mate, that was from 5 months ago and was the understanding at the time... I hear they are now "back flipping" on their original good intentions...?!?!!? honestly dont know if true or not but wouldnt be surprised considering Rabbiehs butting heads with Football QLD before. Who is backflipping ? Well the rumour is Football QLD (or whatever the acronym is these days). Also (and again these are rumours) Brisbane Olympic and Gold Coast Knights were told that if they went ahead with the final bid for the NSD they would NOT be considered on the roster of teams lined up to play NPL QLD in 2024, OR something along the lines of playing fixtures will be drawn up without them..... Both these clubs may have bid with the realistic expectation that they may not get into NSD and that they would then play where they were.... Federation basically telling them to decide if they are in or out...... If this is true then I finally despair for the future of Australian football. What fucking chance do we have when the NPL are destroying the one chance they have of creating (eventually) a fully unified pyramid... FMD...
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+xAny word from our South Australian friends? Apparently it's even really quiet over there. A mate of mine has been working over there for the last few months and a few of his coworkers are Adelaide City supporters and even they say they have no idea what's going on. They reckon anyone that would be in the know has been very tight lipped about the whole thing.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xgreen gully rumoured canberra croatia confirmed brisbane united submitted too according to wynnum wolves That makes 14 if true probably would like another 2 since there would likely be a bit of culling. I really hope we start with 12 teams minimum Just need to have an Adelaide team or two now and all complete :) There is a rumour flying around that both FAs in QLD and SA have advised their bidding clubs that if they announce their bids for the NSD they will NOT be included in next years NPL competition if they are not successful in getting into the NSD ... apparently they have been "gotten too" by the APL .... just rumours but who knows how much truth is in this.... Already grumblings amongst the state federations about how the NSD will rob them of some of their "cash cow" clubs..... every pig in the trough is getting worried I suppose. Again, just Starting teams will be announced in October, and part of the criteria is that you drop out of NPL for 2024, so why is this a threat ? How does announcing an application in September make any difference ? He's saying the rumor is they would be dropped from the NPL regardless of whether they are successful in getting a NST spot or not. Not sure they could legally do this, but it is football in Australia so there are always new and wonderful ways we like to shoot ourselves. Whole idea is proposterous and nothing to gain for anyone, even if they could legally do it. Plus wouldn't effect Brisbane United It WOULD affect the three clubs that are combining for the Brisbane Untied bid though mate, thats the problem. The Brisbane United bid circumvents this issue. Strikers and Wynnum are 'foundation members' and Virginia are 'Tier 1 members' they aren't applying as an existing club None of them are going to relinquish their places in the Queensland ecosystem. I don't know how the FA are allowing this kind of bid in. (inc Sharks and SA), given other clubs applying will be forced out of their current league by the criteria But that's a seperate issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0p37zijo&t=15s Yeah mate, that was from 5 months ago and was the understanding at the time... I hear they are now "back flipping" on their original good intentions...?!?!!? honestly dont know if true or not but wouldnt be surprised considering Rabbiehs butting heads with Football QLD before. Who is backflipping ? Well the rumour is Football QLD (or whatever the acronym is these days). Also (and again these are rumours) Brisbane Olympic and Gold Coast Knights were told that if they went ahead with the final bid for the NSD they would NOT be considered on the roster of teams lined up to play NPL QLD in 2024, OR something along the lines of playing fixtures will be drawn up without them..... Both these clubs may have bid with the realistic expectation that they may not get into NSD and that they would then play where they were.... Federation basically telling them to decide if they are in or out...... If this is true then I finally despair for the future of Australian football. What fucking chance do we have when the NPL are destroying the one chance they have of creating (eventually) a fully unified pyramid... FMD... The QLD NPL probably needs to figure out it's not the EPL here. Even in the case of the EPL, fixtures change all the time. But anyway, teams play their own grounds, there's no ground availability/forward booking issues, at least not enough to derail an entire season. They could be added to the fixture after the start of the season even (but it wouldn't have come to that, the assessment process for the NSD would be long run before they're even planning the next year's NPL fixtures). We can look to the example of the NSL's last season. From memory, Adelaide United joined in round 5-7 or thereabouts after City dropped out last minute. It wasn't the end of the world. It was actually one of the biggest success stories in football for the NSL era. Would like to know the Queensland NPL view on the situation there, but from this standpoint, there's at the very least a bad smell in the air.
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+x+x+xThere is no reason to have second thoughts about participating in the NST. Many clubs in Australia lack ambition, it is so evident. Many supporters are far too ambitious and therefore far too good for the leagues on these shores for this reason. Many choose to invest quality time in overseas leagues instead. They're systems have been in place for many years over there. Let me guess, you’ve never run a business or had staff depending on you for your livelihood have you? Let’s just put it all on black and hope for the best, eh?
Don’t worry that you’re risking the finances of a club 20,30 or 50 years in the making. Just go all in with the FA. What could possibly go wrong.
I have had investments, what do you know knob? Lol … oh sorry, you know just what I’m talking about then. I hope you don’t lose too much sleep when you’re CBA shares fall 5c.
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+x+x+x+x+xHeidelberg along with WA and SA aren't going any further. Well done to those clubs who have submitted their applications. Especially as they faced FA incompetence during this process. So many unnecessary hurdles. FA didn't have the documentation ready and were late in producing it. You will start hearing more on this as there will be leaks. FA have set a ridiculously high bar on some areas regarding criteria. FA actually knows very little about their Clubs. I suppose that's to be expected when FA employees earn $300K and overs. Credit to the Clubs who have had to go through this ridiculous process and creidit to the Clubs who have said the will put in strategies to get there. seems as though the FA have botched it and should of extended the time for the clubs to respond with the proper paperwork I reckon this rings true... Hopefully a few clubs announce over the coming days. One way or another... the suspense is killing us. What doesn't make sense is the clubs that haven't said one way or the other whether they've applied, particularly the established clubs with an existing fanbase. There are rumours about Heidelberg but nothing confirmed. And what about Adelaide City, Brisbane City, Rockdale Ilinden, etc.? Surely they would let their fans know whether they've made the next hurdle or not? Yeah I agree, not sure why some are playing things close to their chest? Saturday night had a chat to a few people who "should" be in the know and my understanding is that for the 7 Victorian bids. Avondale - Have submitted their bid alone (but there are rumours that they are in partnership with Juve) Brunswick Juve - see above..... nobody seems to know whats going on? Green Gully Ajax - Have submitted a bid, ground renovations discussed, pending acceptance.... I hear their bingo/Social club isnt 100% happy. Heidelberg - Did not submit their final bid at this time but are in discussions to join at later date, season 2-4. Knights - Submitted and a strong lock Preston Lions - Submitted and a strong lock Hellas - Submitted and a strong lock Thanks for the inside goss. Agree that Knights, Preston and South are pretty much locks. Avondale has the money but a shit ground and no fans. Maybe merging with Juve to create an Italian super-club playing out of CB Smith solves this, but I'm skeptical. Can't see Green Gully making the cut. Heidelberg really should be in there, but if that happens in season 2 then so be it. I wouldn't be too unhappy if FA announce a 10-team comp for 2024, with two "expansion" clubs for 2025, then (wishful thinking) promotion from the NPL after that. So you could have something like: 2024: Preston Melb Knights South Melb Brisbane Utd Sunshine Coast Wollongong Marconi APIA Sutherland Sydney Olympic 2025: Heidelberg Adelaide City 2026: promotion from NPL, e.g. Sydney Utd. I'm assuming SU's history crowd trouble prevents them from being an inaugural side, but that FA leaves the back door open to them via promotion from NPL.
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confirmed submissions NST,
APIA Leichhardt
Avondale FC
Canberra Croatia
Green Gully Cavaliers
Marconi Stallions
Melbourne Knights
Preston Lions
South Hobart
South Melbourne
Sunshine Coast FC
Sydney Olympic
Sydney United
Wollongong Wolves
withdrawn from NST,
Gold Coast Knights - as per their facebook page
Gold Coast United
Olympic FC - as per their facebook page
no official announcement from the following 10 at this present time,
Adelaide City
Brisbane City
Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United)
Brunswick Juventus
Football South Australia (Campbelltown City, MetroStars, West Torrens Birkalla)
Fraser Park
Gungahlin United
Heidelberg United
Rockdale Illinden
Sutherland Sharks
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