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HappyGuus
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Wasn't north Queensland involved in NPL? Now they're completely cut out. They have a regional knockout comp instead, woo.
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+x+x+xHe does tend to go off at random moments, might coincide with a touch of the old vino-collapso ? He blocked Galatas last time According to a reliable poster on another forum Cavalluci has aspirations for the top job at FA so why wouldn’t he try to disrupt what JJ is trying to achieve.. God help us if this happens to occur. The bloke is a narcissistic clown, he has driven football in Queensland significantly backwards in the time he has been CEO, as well as pocket a ridiculously high salary while doing so. What has he done to drive qld football backwards out of curiosity?
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+x+xHe does tend to go off at random moments, might coincide with a touch of the old vino-collapso ? He blocked Galatas last time According to a reliable poster on another forum Cavalluci has aspirations for the top job at FA so why wouldn’t he try to disrupt what JJ is trying to achieve.. God help us if this happens to occur. The bloke is a narcissistic clown, he has driven football in Queensland significantly backwards in the time he has been CEO, as well as pocket a ridiculously high salary while doing so.
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conspiracy theorist in me thinks that apl could be trying trumps legal strategy, just wind down the clock and then when a new person is in charge of the fa the nst gets shelved
would explain why a league ceos are privately so confident it wont go ahead next year or ever
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gosh if Cavalluci gets elected that would be a kick in the guts....
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I think you’re right, it was a one year extension but, as I said, he may not want to continue banging his head against a wall. I’m sure he wouldn’t be searching too long for another job.
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Looks like the dream is dead then... The next "boss" will be persuaded (if he hasn't been already "selected" by the foreigners) to prop up the Aleague and NSD will be forgotten about,as will domestic transfers ..... Ah well, 7+ years of work by AAFC and real clubs down the drain..... :(
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+xI think his contract has been extended but whether he will want to stay on, given the roadblocks put in the way of his reforms, is debatable. It was originally til 2023, got extended to 2024, but I can't find anything after that https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/7875213/fa-boss-to-stay-in-role-until-end-of-2024/
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I think his contract has been extended but whether he will want to stay on, given the roadblocks put in the way of his reforms, is debatable.
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Bossi, Rugari, Cavallucci .... the more things change, the more they stay the same....
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+x+xHe does tend to go off at random moments, might coincide with a touch of the old vino-collapso ? He blocked Galatas last time According to a reliable poster on another forum Cavalluci has aspirations for the top job at FA so why wouldn’t he try to disrupt what JJ is trying to achieve.. His hat was in the Ring last time https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/johnson-cavallucci-on-ffa-shortlist-to-replace-gallop-as-ceo-20191110-p5397v.htmlAlthough looking around, I can't find if Johnsons contract goes beyond 2024 (3 months left !)
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+xfa statement just dropped As we continue to proactively navigate the multifaceted landscape of our evolving football ecosystem, I wanted to take this opportunity to update you on the nuanced and strategically complex discussions that are currently taking place in relation to the National Second Tier initiative, particularly as it pertains to the collaborative engagement with the Foundation 8 clubs. First and foremost, I would like to acknowledge the diligent efforts of all stakeholders involved in these deliberations. The interdisciplinary synergy being demonstrated across multiple touchpoints is truly reflective of our collective commitment to fostering an environment conducive to sustainable growth and long-term success. This dialogue is emblematic of our shared vision to enhance the holistic framework of our national football structure. While specific details remain in the exploratory phase, I am pleased to report that substantive progress has been made in identifying the key parameters that will drive the strategic alignment of our objectives. This includes, but is not limited to, a comprehensive evaluation of the operational metrics that will underpin the long-term viability and competitive integrity of the National Second Tier. Furthermore, the Foundation 8 clubs have been pivotal in facilitating these conversations, offering invaluable insights that have enabled us to refine our approach and ensure that our collective trajectory is aligned with the broader strategic imperatives of the football community. Their input has been instrumental in shaping a foundational framework that is both resilient and adaptable to the dynamic nature of our sport. As we move forward, we will continue to leverage these discussions to crystallize the actionable insights that will drive the next phase of this initiative. Our commitment to transparency and collaborative excellence remains unwavering, and I am confident that the outcomes of these deliberations will position us optimally for the future. Thank you for your continued dedication and partnership in this critical endeavor. I look forward to providing further updates as we progress. Is this ChatGPT or a buddy of yours from Tasmania? I mean sure its missing a few "milieus" but the language is identical. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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+x+xChatGPT prompt: Write me a 5 paragraph press release with lots of buzz words about moving forward towards a common goal without any actual information. Mention dialogue between the two parties has been constructive and will be ongoing. I think I prefer the OuzoMSC prompt: Write me a combined bunch of rumours overheard in the post-game bar at Lakeside ScotchMSC thanks mate, ouzo is for the tourists :) https://x.com/smfc/status/1831198688850718723?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EtweetSouth media with their finger on the 442 pulse it seems :P Putting in the work, embracing the challenge and not using AI generated captions to fire our fans up.South fans, get behind us this coming Saturday.
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+xHe does tend to go off at random moments, might coincide with a touch of the old vino-collapso ? He blocked Galatas last time According to a reliable poster on another forum Cavalluci has aspirations for the top job at FA so why wouldn’t he try to disrupt what JJ is trying to achieve..
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He does tend to go off at random moments, might coincide with a touch of the old vino-collapso ? He blocked Galatas last time
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Different leadership in football qld and tas and the nst is announced on time
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HappyGuus
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If there's any doubt about Football Queensland's attitude to the NST: https://x.com/RobCavallucci/status/1831278302868410592Regardless of the post he's responding to, how bad is the attitude?
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haha yer all SMH fault - typical oz football rumours, Rugari would lite that one up.
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+xChatGPT prompt: Write me a 5 paragraph press release with lots of buzz words about moving forward towards a common goal without any actual information. Mention dialogue between the two parties has been constructive and will be ongoing. I think I prefer the OuzoMSC prompt: Write me a combined bunch of rumours overheard in the post-game bar at Lakeside
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+xI'll be in Sardinia not this weekend but the next and I was trying to get tickets to Cagliari Napoli but as far as I can work out it's sold out. Stadium only holds 16000 people. Looked online to see if there's a Serie B in Sardinia side but there isn't. There is however a Serie C side on the north of the island (Torres) which I found out through wiki. To cut a long story short have a look at how their 3rd tier works. Serie C - WikipediaSerie C is composed of 60 teams divided equally into three groups split horizontally in geographical terms, from north to south (basically they are three leagues unbound from each other during regular season). The round-robin format is used, with the two halves of the season having exactly the same order of fixtures. Three points are awarded for a win, one for a draw and none for a loss. At the end of the regular season one table per group is determined, based on points. If two or more teams are tied on points, the following tie-breaking criteria apply:[6]
Could something like this work, albeit on a smaller scale, in Australia? I think I've brought the Serie C format up before when I researched how it works with Catania's promotion hopes. Issue is with this format is the north/central/south groupings may change each season depending on who is promoted and relegated. Essentially - the state fed structure will hold us back (unless there's a formalised NPL playoffs system that defines who is promoted and relegated each season)
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+x+x+x+xThe FFA (before they split off from Aleague), the PFA and the APL have been fighting against this for 7+ years now...... 7 years!!!!!! They have had 20 years to become "financially viable", 20 years of free reign and access to fans, sponsors, partnerships and funding that has never before been seen in the game and STILL they are fighting to keep the 99% of us out of the sport..... So if they had 20 years to become financially viable with ten teams, and failed, how is a second division supposed to be financially viable? It may not be, we'll have to wait and see. However the bar is way lower than the A-League so they don't have the same challenges. Smaller venues, mean they don't need to get too many through the gates to cover the venue costs. Already established fan bases to grow from. Lower price point for fans. Membership and ticket prices being lower could attract new fans easier as the buy-in is less than the A-League. Seeing as they all own their IP, FA won't be able to take the bulk share of merch sales. (From memory A-League clubs only took $10-12 from every shirt sale, the rest went to FFA).Many NST clubs have alternative revenue streams (ie social clubs) which are already established and will get boosted by the interest generated from the NST. I'm sure there are many more factors, but this was just some of my initial thoughts. Can I do two things first acknowledge your points are valid.... BUT so what .... Second its in everybody's interest that Football do well in all areas.... I would yell and scream for joy if teams like South Melbourne increased their crowds, sponsors and got more media.... equally I want the same success for A-League teams to grow and expand.... I am so so so so so so over, the infighting.... and dick measuring ... In an idea world we would have a full FIFA model, alas I can't see that happening in the foreseeable future .... what we can do is unite behind everyone in Football and build up revenue streams enough to support a full FIFA model over time and still have a strong professional league along the journey... Mid I also acknowledge your comments BUT so what doesn't get us anywhere. I agree very much that the infighting/politics/divide needs to stop BUT it can't/won't whilst we have the Have's and the Have Nots if describing it this way makes sense. Absolutely the true FIFA would be the zenith but we know thats a bridge too far BUT a NST H/A is at least a start we have needed for 20yrs and counting. This would really help to simmer down the infighting more so us supporters of the game who have their preferences towards NPL finally been given the chance to play on some kind of level playing field. The ongoing excuse's - the barriers/selfishness be it APL/Feds/PFA etcetc the FA need to show the balls/directive this is going ahead for the sake of the game/development and showing some kind of unity amongst the code. Its quite pathetic whats not going on and IF we get no forward motion soon enough I'll be gutted incl many others and the divide supporter wise will keep festering. I won't support APL whilst the bulk of code is held back thats plain and simple and I'm sorry being this way.
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+x+xI'll be in Sardinia not this weekend but the next and I was trying to get tickets to Cagliari Napoli but as far as I can work out it's sold out. Stadium only holds 16000 people. Looked online to see if there's a Serie B in Sardinia side but there isn't. There is however a Serie C side on the north of the island (Torres) which I found out through wiki. To cut a long story short have a look at how their 3rd tier works. Serie C - WikipediaSerie C is composed of 60 teams divided equally into three groups split horizontally in geographical terms, from north to south (basically they are three leagues unbound from each other during regular season). The round-robin format is used, with the two halves of the season having exactly the same order of fixtures. Three points are awarded for a win, one for a draw and none for a loss. At the end of the regular season one table per group is determined, based on points. If two or more teams are tied on points, the following tie-breaking criteria apply:[6]
Could something like this work, albeit on a smaller scale, in Australia? Yeah I think 28 teams with anyone from a league's top 10 being promoted is a bit over the top haha. If we're going to have 8 or 9 feds feeding into the NST, there has to be at least the premiers from each fed in the playoffs/champions league. And it would also depend on how many promotion slots there are to go up. So if it's two up, then we might want the top two from each fed taking part. Or if it's three up, we could have a weighting or coefficient for slots in the CL. But I'd like to see us combine federations by location and also what's fiscally prudent. I've done spreadsheets on this stuff, full of costs for flights and accomodation between all the cities... look, I find it fun haha. I've combined feds for one to two tiers below NST, and the total costs for each tier are basically the same as the NST, but the benefit comes with having more teams taking part in those lower tiers making the cost per club and per match cheaper and cheaper. Feel free to share ur data analysis. Plenty of nerds like me like that sort of thing
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+xI'll be in Sardinia not this weekend but the next and I was trying to get tickets to Cagliari Napoli but as far as I can work out it's sold out. Stadium only holds 16000 people. Looked online to see if there's a Serie B in Sardinia side but there isn't. There is however a Serie C side on the north of the island (Torres) which I found out through wiki. To cut a long story short have a look at how their 3rd tier works. Serie C - WikipediaSerie C is composed of 60 teams divided equally into three groups split horizontally in geographical terms, from north to south (basically they are three leagues unbound from each other during regular season). The round-robin format is used, with the two halves of the season having exactly the same order of fixtures. Three points are awarded for a win, one for a draw and none for a loss. At the end of the regular season one table per group is determined, based on points. If two or more teams are tied on points, the following tie-breaking criteria apply:[6]
Could something like this work, albeit on a smaller scale, in Australia? Yeah I think 28 teams with anyone from a league's top 10 being promoted is a bit over the top haha. If we're going to have 8 or 9 feds feeding into the NST, there has to be at least the premiers from each fed in the playoffs/champions league. And it would also depend on how many promotion slots there are to go up. So if it's two up, then we might want the top two from each fed taking part. Or if it's three up, we could have a weighting or coefficient for slots in the CL. But I'd like to see us combine federations by location and also what's fiscally prudent. I've done spreadsheets on this stuff, full of costs for flights and accomodation between all the cities... look, I find it fun haha. I've combined feds for one to two tiers below NST, and the total costs for each tier are basically the same as the NST, but the benefit comes with having more teams taking part in those lower tiers making the cost per club and per match cheaper and cheaper.
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+x+x+xCan anyone confirm how the voting went, was it chicken or fish for lunch? Thai That'd be right, given two options and they'll choose the third... they can never agree on anything simple 😅 lol
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+xI'll be in Sardinia not this weekend but the next and I was trying to get tickets to Cagliari Napoli but as far as I can work out it's sold out. Stadium only holds 16000 people. Looked online to see if there's a Serie B in Sardinia side but there isn't. There is however a Serie C side on the north of the island (Torres) which I found out through wiki. To cut a long story short have a look at how their 3rd tier works. Serie C - WikipediaSerie C is composed of 60 teams divided equally into three groups split horizontally in geographical terms, from north to south (basically they are three leagues unbound from each other during regular season). The round-robin format is used, with the two halves of the season having exactly the same order of fixtures. Three points are awarded for a win, one for a draw and none for a loss. At the end of the regular season one table per group is determined, based on points. If two or more teams are tied on points, the following tie-breaking criteria apply:[6]
Could something like this work, albeit on a smaller scale, in Australia? eventually that is the model I would favour in between the npl and the national tiers. I suspect you need two national tiers to make sure the top one can be fully pro
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+x+xCan anyone confirm how the voting went, was it chicken or fish for lunch? Thai That'd be right, given two options and they'll choose the third... they can never agree on anything simple 😅
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I'll be in Sardinia not this weekend but the next and I was trying to get tickets to Cagliari Napoli but as far as I can work out it's sold out. Stadium only holds 16000 people. Looked online to see if there's a Serie B in Sardinia side but there isn't. There is however a Serie C side on the north of the island (Torres) which I found out through wiki. To cut a long story short have a look at how their 3rd tier works. Serie C - WikipediaSerie C is composed of 60 teams divided equally into three groups split horizontally in geographical terms, from north to south (basically they are three leagues unbound from each other during regular season). The round-robin format is used, with the two halves of the season having exactly the same order of fixtures. Three points are awarded for a win, one for a draw and none for a loss. At the end of the regular season one table per group is determined, based on points. If two or more teams are tied on points, the following tie-breaking criteria apply:[6]
Could something like this work, albeit on a smaller scale, in Australia?
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+xCan anyone confirm how the voting went, was it chicken or fish for lunch? Thai
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Can anyone confirm how the voting went, was it chicken or fish for lunch?
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+xfa statement just dropped As we continue to proactively navigate the multifaceted landscape of our evolving football ecosystem, I wanted to take this opportunity to update you on the nuanced and strategically complex discussions that are currently taking place in relation to the National Second Tier initiative, particularly as it pertains to the collaborative engagement with the Foundation 8 clubs. First and foremost, I would like to acknowledge the diligent efforts of all stakeholders involved in these deliberations. The interdisciplinary synergy being demonstrated across multiple touchpoints is truly reflective of our collective commitment to fostering an environment conducive to sustainable growth and long-term success. This dialogue is emblematic of our shared vision to enhance the holistic framework of our national football structure. While specific details remain in the exploratory phase, I am pleased to report that substantive progress has been made in identifying the key parameters that will drive the strategic alignment of our objectives. This includes, but is not limited to, a comprehensive evaluation of the operational metrics that will underpin the long-term viability and competitive integrity of the National Second Tier. Furthermore, the Foundation 8 clubs have been pivotal in facilitating these conversations, offering invaluable insights that have enabled us to refine our approach and ensure that our collective trajectory is aligned with the broader strategic imperatives of the football community. Their input has been instrumental in shaping a foundational framework that is both resilient and adaptable to the dynamic nature of our sport. As we move forward, we will continue to leverage these discussions to crystallize the actionable insights that will drive the next phase of this initiative. Our commitment to transparency and collaborative excellence remains unwavering, and I am confident that the outcomes of these deliberations will position us optimally for the future. Thank you for your continued dedication and partnership in this critical endeavor. I look forward to providing further updates as we progress. The Da Vinci Code just got harder…..
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