Sunshine Coast have been unceremoniously booted from the Mens and Womens FQPL plus Advanced  Juniors. (not the NPL)

https://x.com/AAFClubs/status/1712749984213504422?s=20

Hate to AGAIN say I told ya so but......   soccer in this country is well and truly fucked..... Im beginning to think this is going to be, like others have been telling me for months now, a ploy to once and for all kill all the ambition of any still remaining "effnik" clubs...... Its being set up to fail, just like that stupid referendum..... so that the powers that be can say "well we gave you wogs a chance and it didnt work, fuck off now and die" Im sure there are a few people storing champagne just for that occasion.... hope it turns to vinegar in your rotten guts. :(

Who needs the rival codes, Murdoch media or foreign 'investors' to screw over our game. We can screw over our own just fine by ourselves.
Obviously we don't have all of the information, but if this is purely a response to the NST submission then football in Australia is truly doomed.
Could someone remind me why we need state feds again?

We really don’t need the state feds, but that won’t be changing anytime soon. Sports organisatons across the country tend to have similar structures, and it just creates an inefficient and self serving environment where power and influence overrides the greater good of the game. 

This should be a catalyst for change. It would mean a larger FA to run the various Federations state leagues - but at least then they would be run consistently and not be a source of problems every time something is trying to be done. 

Unbelievably fucked.

I mean, the difference is though, that the other sports organisations state federations are generally offshoots of the main thing.
EG, AFL Canberra answers to AFL NSW/ACT, which answers to the AFL.

Its all so quiet for such a long time, it seems safe to say that the concept of a NST is not going to get up, may even be dead in the water folks.
FA are to blame ofcourse. Must do away with Feds, they can create they're own governance of football at Npl & grass roots levels.

Do away with State Feds?  Not on your Nelly.

If I had a choice of getting rid of 2 of the 3 tiers of Government I would start with local and then toss Federal.  I'd keep State.  It's responsive and representative.
With Football I would get rid of Fed but would fight to keep local and State.  Same reason as above.

sadly i agree. 
from what i heard, only 5 clubs gave the $500k bank Guarantee.
i cant see this starting within the next 5 months as scheduled, only thing that might be considered is the Champions league format for 2024.

I have a very good source informing me that the champions league format will definitely not proceed!!! its league structure or nothing!!

It's like this really, ANY entitiy that stands in the way of a NST system can go get run over by a cement truck. I'm sorry if I didn't make my point clear before.

Tell that to the juniors who were just told that they can't play football for their club for no-reason-given. I'm sure they feel well represented right now.

https://apple.news/AH15gtowMTgqnsPkq52SGyQ

Thanks for posting. Reading the comments below, besides your usual 'soccer is boring and the crowds are dangerous' was this.

The rebuttal under (bolded) should be stapled to the head of every eurosnob in Australia.

Vignale
3 HOURS AGO
Honestly, it is not remotely surprising, and has nothing to do with soccer being 'boring'- if that was the case it wouldn't be the worlds most popular and most watched sport.

The issue is that professional soccer in Australia doesn't showcase the best of the best... our national professional league is not within the top 10 most prestigious leagues in the world, perhaps not even within the top 20. Accordingly our best players make their names, and hone their skills, in leagues overseas. If you are really into soccer, you are likely using your screen watching time to follow the English Premier League/ Serie A/ La Liga/ Champions league etc etc etc

Contrast this with the AFL- it is the best league for its sport in the world (because no one else plays it), or the NRL which is the best rugby league competition in the world, or Super Rugby, which is the best rugby union competition in the world- all played in Australia with local teams and plenty of supporters.

So- if you are the type of person who likes to spend their time watching other people play sport on TV/ or in a stadium - the A league is going to be pretty low on your list... which means it is low on advertisers lists too.

stu_rat
3 HOURS AGO

This is a bit silly though isn't it? League 1 isn't exactly top 20 leagues, but is healthily attended and viewed. The Romanian league wouldn't be top 20, but is similarly watched and loved.
Hell, the Indian super league attracts pretty decent crowds too (helps to have a billion population, true).

To blame Professional football in Australia for not showcasing the best of the best is just copping out and doing a disservice to the many excellent professionals we have playing in the league. Just look at the recent world cups in mens and womens. A number of stars in the Socceroos and Matildas are either playing in the A-Leagues currently, or have recently graduated from them. We need to start understanding that this is the reality of football. It's highly unlikely that any leagues are going to be near the likes of the Premier League, Serie-A, Bundesliga and La Liga. Even the Bundesliga drops off in quality after the first few teams. But again, those clubs produce some great talent, and are still worth watching in their own rights.

I think we need to get over our snobbery. I think it's pathetic that people will spend money to watch Premier League games, but won't go and watch our local lads and ladies play some of the most entertaining football you can see.

No worries Muz.
I always like reading other POV’s due to my luv of the game and engagement.
You got to be open minded and accept not everyone sees eye to eye.
I don’t know how one would classify me for I pay for those mentioned leagues and up at any godly hour to watch count Roo games and also support local games every weekend.
There will always be a % of snobs and most probably hardly go to local grounds who cares to me I know them myself.
The other local codes yep have their best of the best every week - again who cares from a football perspective, I’ve watched so many games of ours just as entertaining in Club NPL land just as much excitement.
AL is lacking the football dna I’ve craved for since it’s beginning, I tried being invested but it lacks heritage, links below and you know what else and I’m sure many like me would be all in having a comp that is inclusive as far as I’m concerned but it’s not to be which is hurting the game overall.
I can’t see the point supporting something I feel works against the rest of the game in our backyard.
So the snobs do their thing, the AL guys do theirs and the rest below.
3 groups add in potentials through the huge club land registrations there is no synergy, snobbery is a very small part imo.

Why bother playing a sport other countries play, where you can test your level at things like "World Cups" and so on, when you can just invent a sport and immediately have the best league in the world?

It's such a moronic argument. Who cares if it's the best league in the world of a given sport, if the sport is crap and literally nobody else takes it seriously (and even half of Australia can't give a fuck about it)?

Afl has pole position in this country, it is where soccer/football was meant to be actually. Aerial fumble ping pong is a great delusion, supported to the hilt by deluded people, from politicians, right down to the man on the street.

Your own communities killed off your ethnic clubs, you cannot have an organic fanbase when you start to rely on 3rd-4th gen Australians now who will only come if it's a popular game for Instagram or Tiktok. Same thing is happening in Germany with ethnic clubs, all this talk online, only show up to the 2 big matches a year, sponsors start seeing less value and move on. Now Germany does not have a single ethnic club professionally run anymore compared to 20 years ago where there was a stack of them floating around the 3rd tier.

I feel for the Dedushkas' who remain supporting those clubs but I understand at that point, it's just a social hub for them however this generation and the one before don't need that social hub that these clubs provided. It probably also hurts these clubs when you start seeing how A-league clubs are now building community social hubs within themselves, went to Sydney FC FFA Cup final and on the Eastern end is pretty much a Russian, Brazillian and Colombian hub so guess thats where their market is going to now. 

Document has appeared on Socials purporting to be a letter to Marconi members

Basically, Marconi's constitution means they must give notice to members that they are getting a $500k Bank Guarantee set up

I thought this was a prerequisite before the RFP went in, but maybe not

Also refers to a $450-550k participation fee that includes all the Travel costs for Away teams.

and a 2 year initial entry also mentioned. (so maybe P/R with NPL possible after that ?)

I was under the same impression.
That Marconi letter is dated 16 October, so could be that the goal posts moved slightly and the FA has been more flexible. Could be that Marconi forgot about that clause and they are belatedly informing their members to cover themselves.
I'd say the clubs will receive a chunk of that participation fee money back in the form of a grant.

Be good if the NST was announced in a week or two wouldn't it?....

More information needed.  You better let the club know asap.

http://sunshinecoastfc.com.au/join-the-fire-2024/

They posted that on their website on the 16th May.
These are the letters they received dated 10th October. First one is for their junior license, second one is for their NPL license.

Not sure what a "Dedushka" is but your point is valid.about dwindling crowds... Doesn't help that our clubs have been discriminated against for the past 19 years but anyway........ At least in Germany the clubs have an avenue to aspire to do better...

As for Aleague clubs forming little pockets of community "hubs" within themselves thats really interesting.... flies against what the franchise system was supposed to represent but interesting nonetheless.. 

OK.  I am still missing something here.

Is it that they didn't expect that there would be any change to the junior participation licence even if they were ending their QPL program?  If so, it seems they have been offered a way to participate.
I note they can still apply for the junior licence separately. 

By moving the senior teams to the NSD it surely was clear that participation in QPL would end. If there is going to be a "pyramid" you can't enter it simultaneously on all floors.

All this raises a point I made some time back that movement to and from the NPL to the NSD needed to be bedded down and consistent across the country.  JJ needs to get on the phone before/if/when inevitable misunderstandings arise.  Frankly (and they may have done this) there should have been a meeting with all parties present early on in the process and lines of communication kept open thereafter.

I don't see anything here that can't be fixed with a 3 way phone call. 

It does (at first sight) look like somebody, somewhere, got a bit miffed when they felt they were being left in the dark while they were trying to get next year's comps sorted.  Possibly sick of being put off when they made inquiries.  Dunno I am not involved.  Less finger pointing, shot firing and a couple of phone calls being answered might help.

The letter states that they will not be granted either license for 2024. That means they cannot compete at any junior or senior level competition run by FQ. That's for men, women, boys and girls. The sentence about application seems a bit vague and could indicate that they must wait until 2025 to apply again.
The NST has not been confirmed and SCFC have not been confirmed to be involved. Rumored, yes, but not confirmed. SCFC successful joining the NST should only effect their NPL mens team, not their womens teams, nor their junior teams.

LOL - I'm not sure why he use's the Russian word for Nonno/Papu/Grandpa's then talking about the German league but whatever.
Seems Volk's has his POV that is entirely valid in any case, I hardly see Nonno's/Papu's out numbering the younger gens at games but whatever.

As for quoting about the Cove end and at Moore Park obviously, FFS Russians/Brazillians etc mostly habitat Bondi/Eastern suburbs/surrounds (stones throw from Moore Park) for the last 20+yrs.
Nothing new here, seems its still not in huge numbers but for a finale.
We are talking about a Pro league operating the last how many years with all the $$$$$'s and marketing and in the largest populated city (not much longer).

those hubs are only temporary.
comes with a two year visa. 

Football Queensland and Sunshine Coast Fire have apparently been at loggerheads for a few years, I don't know the background why. FQ, who are essentially a law unto themselves and do whatever they like regarding competitions, rules and anything else (remember Bonita Mersiades), have essentially kicked out Sunny Coast Fire because they can, not because of anything to do with NST. Nothing in the letters refers to NST, both letters just say FQ are not extending their senior and junior licence agreement, including both males and females, for 2024. It is essentially FQ saying to Sunny Coast "we have had enough of you, we don't want you anymore". It is a disgraceful move from FQ, particularly as Sunny Coast have an extensive junior development program with teams participating the the FQ Academy Leagues (the highest level of junior competition), and which includes an academy partnership with a Sunshine Coast high school.

As an aside, someone mentioned in an earlier post that you can't have teams entered in different levels of the pyramid. Two clubs in Qld have just merged, Moreton Bay United who played in NPL in 2023 and Albany Creek Excelsior who played in FQPL1 in 2023. FQPL1 is the league immediately below NPL. Although the two clubs have merged, FQ have decided that the new club, Moreton City Excelsior, can still have a team in NPL and a team in FQPL1 in 2024. So much for a pyramid!