The Aussies Abroad Thread 2


The Aussies Abroad Thread 2

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Souttar and Triantis bench. Really time for Souttar to get a winter loan away. He's proven himself well in every game so it's not even a question of ability.

Luongo and Burgess starting.
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Excellent strike by Luongo for 2:0. Moves to his left and just hits it on his left boot and it goes like a rocket with the keeper rooted to the spot. 
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johnszasz - 30 Nov 2023 7:30 AM
Excellent strike by Luongo for 2:0. Moves to his left and just hits it on his left boot and it goes like a rocket with the keeper rooted to the spot. 

Great news about Luongo, with Mooy & Rogic retired & Hrustic struggling, Luongo is becoming very important for the National team, we don't produce too many players like this. 
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Leicester concede late for draw. Ipswich very close in second. Ipswich keeping it ticking over nicely. Got to remember they're a promoted side. Minimum now is the playoffs but the way they play they've got every chance to go automatically.
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disappointing for Souttar I'm sure after the WC last year he probably had offers for other EPL sides. I was hoping he would end up at West Ham think that would be perfect for him.
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jas88 - 30 Nov 2023 1:23 PM
disappointing for Souttar I'm sure after the WC last year he probably had offers for other EPL sides. I was hoping he would end up at West Ham think that would be perfect for him.

Apparently Maresca knows better than to give minutes to a NT CB with 10 goals and prior EPL experience too
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Balin Trev - 30 Nov 2023 2:15 PM
jas88 - 30 Nov 2023 1:23 PM

Apparently Maresca knows better than to give minutes to a NT CB with 10 goals and prior EPL experience too

I mean they are leading the promotion race so you can't exactly say he's wrong. But anyway the two CB's are starters for Belgium and Denmark.
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Pasquali - 30 Nov 2023 2:23 PM
Balin Trev - 30 Nov 2023 2:15 PM

I mean they are leading the promotion race so you can't exactly say he's wrong. But anyway the two CB's are starters for Belgium and Denmark.

Probably the coach just don't trust Souttar cuz he plays for Oz
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robbos - 30 Nov 2023 7:41 AM
johnszasz - 30 Nov 2023 7:30 AM

Great news about Luongo, with Mooy & Rogic retired & Hrustic struggling, Luongo is becoming very important for the National team, we don't produce too many players like this. 

Arnie still probably gonna put Baccus & Irvine before him like always.   Personally Id like to see O'Neil and Luongo for DM
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Pasquali - 30 Nov 2023 2:23 PM
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Pasquali - 30 Nov 2023 2:23 PM

Probably the coach just don't trust Souttar cuz he plays for Oz

Lack of club minutes for Souttar doesn’t seem to hinder his Roos performances anyway so as long as he is training/staying fit Leicester are actually paying him to be fresher for Socceroos duty 👏😂
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Balin Trev - 30 Nov 2023 4:26 PM
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mark_000au - 30 Nov 2023 2:48 PM

Lack of club minutes for Souttar doesn’t seem to hinder his Roos performances anyway so as long as he is training/staying fit Leicester are actually paying him to be fresher for Socceroos duty 👏😂

Thats the wrong take Trev..... our Socceroos need to be playing 90 mins EVERYWHERE they are.... training, even intensive European training, does NOT replace match fitness.... 

Maresca is looking at the whole squad he has at his disposal and wanting to get the best out of the best player he has.... If he thought Souttar was a better CB he would obviously play him ... there isnt any nationality bias... if there is the bloke is a moron. .... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2023 4:53 PM
Balin Trev - 30 Nov 2023 4:26 PM

Thats the wrong take Trev..... our Socceroos need to be playing 90 mins EVERYWHERE they are.... training, even intensive European training, does NOT replace match fitness.... 

Maresca is looking at the whole squad he has at his disposal and wanting to get the best out of the best player he has.... If he thought Souttar was a better CB he would obviously play him ... there isnt any nationality bias... if there is the bloke is a moron. .... 

There is. And everywhere actually.  Let's say one is CB for  Belgium national team another is CB frm Australia or New Zealand. Who d you pick? There"s always the favourite players from the coach over another.  I watched Leicester last season and thought Faes was worse but he is still the main man. 
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jas88 - 30 Nov 2023 1:23 PM
disappointing for Souttar I'm sure after the WC last year he probably had offers for other EPL sides. I was hoping he would end up at West Ham think that would be perfect for him.

West Ham and Aston Villa were the other teams interested. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2023 4:53 PM
Balin Trev - 30 Nov 2023 4:26 PM

Thats the wrong take Trev..... our Socceroos need to be playing 90 mins EVERYWHERE they are.... training, even intensive European training, does NOT replace match fitness.... 

Maresca is looking at the whole squad he has at his disposal and wanting to get the best out of the best player he has.... If he thought Souttar was a better CB he would obviously play him ... there isnt any nationality bias... if there is the bloke is a moron. .... 

Of course there exists a bias against Australian players by euro clubs (for whatever reason), its been recently confirmed by Volpato's flipflopping.
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yeah everyones biased. If you have a cricketer from spain and another from india, subconscious bias will affect you

a football player from singapore in australia won't get the same patience from fans as a footballer from brazil, even if they are the same level. One mistake from the singaporean and people will accuse the club of skimping on money and not buying good players

unfortunately, as far as europe is concerned, we are the spanish cricket players or the singaporean soccer players.

Golden generations happens for minnows because once a couple of players break the glass ceiling, a few others give players of the same nationality a go. 
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Genreau still on bench. Got to move away. 
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mark_000au - 30 Nov 2023 7:03 PM
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There is. And everywhere actually.  Let's say one is CB for  Belgium national team another is CB frm Australia or New Zealand. Who d you pick? There"s always the favourite players from the coach over another.  I watched Leicester last season and thought Faes was worse but he is still the main man. 

So do you really think a club wanting to push for promotion to the next tier on the pyramid would sign 3 x players for a position who they didnt think could fill the roll and NOT play the best player because of his passport??? C'mon sometimes we have an unnecessary chip on our shoulder.

Sure there is a perceived bias against the quality of Australian players but a club doesn't sign players NOT to play them..... unless its one of the top 6 who are warehousing and farming off players for profit.
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grazorblade - 1 Dec 2023 7:18 AM
yeah everyones biased. If you have a cricketer from spain and another from india, subconscious bias will affect you

a football player from singapore in australia won't get the same patience from fans as a footballer from brazil, even if they are the same level. One mistake from the singaporean and people will accuse the club of skimping on money and not buying good players

unfortunately, as far as europe is concerned, we are the spanish cricket players or the singaporean soccer players.

Golden generations happens for minnows because once a couple of players break the glass ceiling, a few others give players of the same nationality a go. 

From fans sure mate, I get the point but if that was the case lower tier English clubs would NOT sign any other nationality but English players...
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Dan_The_Red - 1 Dec 2023 6:40 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2023 4:53 PM

Of course there exists a bias against Australian players by euro clubs (for whatever reason), its been recently confirmed by Volpato's flipflopping.

A bit of a different situation I think... Volpato is only "Aussie" when he is playing shit over there... Otherwise he is an Italian kid vying for national call up..... 
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mark_000au - 30 Nov 2023 7:03 PM
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There is. And everywhere actually.  Let's say one is CB for  Belgium national team another is CB frm Australia or New Zealand. Who d you pick? There"s always the favourite players from the coach over another.  I watched Leicester last season and thought Faes was worse but he is still the main man. 

You pick who is best. He is top of the table so nobody can really argue with his results. 
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Dan_The_Red - 1 Dec 2023 6:40 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Nov 2023 4:53 PM

Of course there exists a bias against Australian players by euro clubs (for whatever reason), its been recently confirmed by Volpato's flipflopping.

If volpato was any good he'd be able to dictate himself. 

But he's not, he's been a complete arrogant disappointment so far
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tsf - 1 Dec 2023 11:48 AM
mark_000au - 30 Nov 2023 7:03 PM

You pick who is best. He is top of the table so nobody can really argue with his results. 

Yes if you are clearly better than your teammates then yes.  But if they are about the same or just slightly better then the nationality of the players could play a big part. If Souttar becomes Van Dyke for Leicester surely they will play him.  

Don't forget ... reading football fans comment they think the Aussies are only good with physical but low football skills.  The norms & stereo types are aussies are good at rugby NOT football.

 It's like if you are the coach and you have 2 players fighting for the same position with exactly the same level of football skills ..one is Japanese another 's from Myanmar. Who d you play in the starting line up?. That Myanmar player must be clearly 2 times better for the coach to put him first.
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mark_000au - 1 Dec 2023 1:41 PM
tsf - 1 Dec 2023 11:48 AM

Yes if you are clearly better than your teammates then yes.  But if they are about the same or just slightly better then the nationality of the players could play a big part. If Souttar becomes Van Dyke for Leicester surely they will play him.  

Don't forget ... By reading football fans comments they thinks the Aussies are only good with physical & low football skills.  The norms are we are good at rugby NOT football.

 It's like if you are the coach and you have 2 players fighting for the same position with exactly the same level of football skills ..one is Japanese another 's from Myanmar. Who d you play in the starting line up?. That Myanmar player must be clearly 2 times better for the coach to put him first.

Yeah, but let's not forget that Harry is actually Scottish :D
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tsf - 1 Dec 2023 1:59 PM
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Yeah, but let's not forget that Harry is actually Scottish :D

A Scotsman vs a Dane and a Belgian - with an Italian coach - not going to be favoured. Danes and Belgian players probably considered to have better European football ‘pedigree’
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Metcalfe and Irvine starting in the derby. 
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Goal Irvine. 1:0
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Irvine goal. Nice hit. The o.g by HSV. WOW




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Bos scored. Good game individually for him, starting to complete a lot of his dribbles

that has been a hard adjustment for kuol, he has struggled to beat players as easily as in the a league
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grazorblade - 2 Dec 2023 8:37 AM
Bos scored. Good game individually for him, starting to complete a lot of his dribbles

that has been a hard adjustment for kuol, he has struggled to beat players as easily as in the a league

Because the defences in the a league are hopeless 
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