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+xList of records Arnie has broken: - First World Cup clean sheet since 1974 - First World Cup win in 12 years - First ever back-to-back World Cup wins
- First ever back-to-back World Cup clean sheets
- First time we’ve scored in every World Cup group stage match
- Highest ever points total at a World Cup These FACTS speak volumes. Arnold has proven he had a master plan (that appeared shaky to me at times during qualifying) but he really knew what he was doing all along - brilliant. Humble pie eaten at my place every day since Peru WCQ until Argies game.
He should be extremely proud forever 👍
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+x+xSadly, I think there is an inherent inferiority complex about our own domestic Aussie coaches. They are now trained very well inner Football lAus coach education. Ange, ikon, pOpa, Muscat, Kisnotrbo ( coaching in a big UEFA five league), are coaching overseas. There are also a number of assistant Aussie coaches coaching overseas. Arnie is a master coach who cares passionately about Aussie football. Recently he stated he had too few players of sufficient calibre for international football at the end of Bert's short tenure at the end of 2018. So to his credit, he took on coaching the Olympic team, for no remuneration, to develop the next generation of talent for the Socceroos. And something Arnie has discovered is that the younger players in the Aus Under 16s, under 17s and under 20s, have technical skills no previous generation of Aussie footballers have. The reason we got so far in Qatar, is because Arnie fast-tracked Rowles, Souttar, McGree?, Tilio, Baccus, Genreau, Kuol, Metcalfe, Devlin, et al, from the youngsters, to step up to international football. No foreign coach would have done this. They would have walked away from the Socceroo job. Arnie is also partially the Technical Director of Aussie football, with Trevor Morgan focusing on youth development and coach education, Arnie deserves great credit. We are very lucky to have him. He is one of the best coaches in world football. And the best coach the Socceoros have ever had, including Bert ( World Cup finalist with Holland in 2010) and Guus (UEFA Champ league semi-finalist with PSV). D2 what are your thoughts on Rene Meulensteen? He seems to be an important cog in the coaching staff. I know he's considered a legend amongst ManU supporters. Most Man U supporters know nothing about football. Their opinion is irrelevant. When I was coaching years ago at the lower echelons of the Football Aus system, with rep teams, a guy called R Brown, then Dirk Van A, put up some fantastic training ground exercises in the Performance section for coaches on this forum. It was a godsend for me. Arsenal, Chelsea, Ajax, PSV Eindhoven, a Brazilian club, Santos?, and finally Man United, listed all these wonderful training ground exercises performed in their academies. Rene Meulensteen was the progenitor of the Man U content . It made me as a coach, to cover for gaps I had. Meulensteen's Man U drills were fabulous - like all the other 5 clubs. I used them successfully from ages 13-14 up to senior NPL level players. Players of any age loved doing them and thought they were fantastic. So for youth/development/senior footballers his exercises were fantastic! It may be the case, like one of the greatest football coaching combinations of all time Brian Clough, was never as good as a coach as he was without his mate, Peter Taylor, his talent spotter and scout, and right hand person to keep Cloughy's quirks under control. For all I know, Meulensteen, and Tony Vidmar, could perform similar roles with Arnie, as Taylor did with Clough.
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+x+x+x+xIrvine reminds me of myself. So passionate yet can't get fundamentals right. He was distraught tonight. Seeing the video after the Denmark game of the players' families, it's much bigger than what we just see on the pitch. Behich was being consoled by Devlin post game. Their body and mind has been through a lot the last 4 ears to get here. Arnold needs a holiday in the sun too. It's nearly killed him Arnold has aged 15 years in the last 4. You can really see it in his face. I'm really hoping he can go and chill for a couple of weeks and just relax somewhere. I have my doubts whether he would want o continue to be honest. I think at most he will stay on for a shot at the Asian cup and finish the generational transition. In many ways though, that's almost a hiding to nothing really. Even winning it will not be as big as what's just been achieved Arnie has taken the opportunity to raise very publicly when everyone was looking the same issues that Ange continually railed against. If he can see there is a chance to change youth development in Australia and have proper, constant and relevant international competition for our younger NTs and a chance to influence through the APL and FA the standard of academies at ALM, NSD & NPL levels I believe he will want to stay on - even if that is not as NT Manager Yeah I agree and hopefully someone actually listens this time. We can all debate their strengths/weaknesses as coaches but both these two only want what's best for australian football. I thought Arnie's timing in bringing that up in the press was impeccable and the fact we went out and did the job made it all the more powerful as more and more people were listening.
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+x+x+xIrvine reminds me of myself. So passionate yet can't get fundamentals right. He was distraught tonight. Seeing the video after the Denmark game of the players' families, it's much bigger than what we just see on the pitch. Behich was being consoled by Devlin post game. Their body and mind has been through a lot the last 4 ears to get here. Arnold needs a holiday in the sun too. It's nearly killed him Arnold has aged 15 years in the last 4. You can really see it in his face. I'm really hoping he can go and chill for a couple of weeks and just relax somewhere. I have my doubts whether he would want o continue to be honest. I think at most he will stay on for a shot at the Asian cup and finish the generational transition. In many ways though, that's almost a hiding to nothing really. Even winning it will not be as big as what's just been achieved Arnie has taken the opportunity to raise very publicly when everyone was looking the same issues that Ange continually railed against. If he can see there is a chance to change youth development in Australia and have proper, constant and relevant international competition for our younger NTs and a chance to influence through the APL and FA the standard of academies at ALM, NSD & NPL levels I believe he will want to stay on - even if that is not as NT Manager
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+x+xIrvine reminds me of myself. So passionate yet can't get fundamentals right. He was distraught tonight. Seeing the video after the Denmark game of the players' families, it's much bigger than what we just see on the pitch. Behich was being consoled by Devlin post game. Their body and mind has been through a lot the last 4 ears to get here. Arnold needs a holiday in the sun too. It's nearly killed him Arnold has aged 15 years in the last 4. You can really see it in his face. I'm really hoping he can go and chill for a couple of weeks and just relax somewhere. I have my doubts whether he would want o continue to be honest. I think at most he will stay on for a shot at the Asian cup and finish the generational transition. In many ways though, that's almost a hiding to nothing really. Even winning it will not be as big as what's just been achieved
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+xSadly, I think there is an inherent inferiority complex about our own domestic Aussie coaches. They are now trained very well inner Football lAus coach education. Ange, ikon, pOpa, Muscat, Kisnotrbo ( coaching in a big UEFA five league), are coaching overseas. There are also a number of assistant Aussie coaches coaching overseas. Arnie is a master coach who cares passionately about Aussie football. Recently he stated he had too few players of sufficient calibre for international football at the end of Bert's short tenure at the end of 2018. So to his credit, he took on coaching the Olympic team, for no remuneration, to develop the next generation of talent for the Socceroos. And something Arnie has discovered is that the younger players in the Aus Under 16s, under 17s and under 20s, have technical skills no previous generation of Aussie footballers have. The reason we got so far in Qatar, is because Arnie fast-tracked Rowles, Souttar, McGree?, Tilio, Baccus, Genreau, Kuol, Metcalfe, Devlin, et al, from the youngsters, to step up to international football. No foreign coach would have done this. They would have walked away from the Socceroo job. Arnie is also partially the Technical Director of Aussie football, with Trevor Morgan focusing on youth development and coach education, Arnie deserves great credit. We are very lucky to have him. He is one of the best coaches in world football. And the best coach the Socceoros have ever had, including Bert ( World Cup finalist with Holland in 2010) and Guus (UEFA Champ league semi-finalist with PSV). D2 what are your thoughts on Rene Meulensteen? He seems to be an important cog in the coaching staff. I know he's considered a legend amongst ManU supporters.
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+xSadly, I think there is an inherent inferiority complex about our own domestic Aussie coaches. They are now trained very well inner Football lAus coach education. Ange, ikon, pOpa, Muscat, Kisnotrbo ( coaching in a big UEFA five league), are coaching overseas. There are also a number of assistant Aussie coaches coaching overseas. Arnie is a master coach who cares passionately about Aussie football. Recently he stated he had too few players of sufficient calibre for international football at the end of Bert's short tenure at the end of 2018. So to his credit, he took on coaching the Olympic team, for no remuneration, to develop the next generation of talent for the Socceroos. And something Arnie has discovered is that the younger players in the Aus Under 16s, under 17s and under 20s, have technical skills no previous generation of Aussie footballers have. The reason we got so far in Qatar, is because Arnie fast-tracked Rowles, Souttar, McGree?, Tilio, Baccus, Genreau, Kuol, Metcalfe, Devlin, et al, from the youngsters, to step up to international football. No foreign coach would have done this. They would have walked away from the Socceroo job. Arnie is also partially the Technical Director of Aussie football, with Trevor Morgan focusing on youth development and coach education, Arnie deserves great credit. We are very lucky to have him. He is one of the best coaches in world football. And the best coach the Socceoros have ever had, including Bert ( World Cup finalist with Holland in 2010) and Guus (UEFA Champ league semi-finalist with PSV). I think Arnie's mini-apprenticeship under Guus has now paid dividends for our national team. Sure, it couldn't be done for the 2007 Asian Cup, but I don't think I've seen in my lifetime (Farina onwards) our national team adapt as well to opponents, as they did under Guus, and then under Arnie.
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+x+xWe went from almost going out to UAE to pushing argies. Fair play.
Better than Guus And Bert ( the Socceroo coach with the biggest reputation on the biggest stage).
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Sadly, I think there is an inherent inferiority complex about our own domestic Aussie coaches.
They are now trained very well inner Football lAus coach education. Ange, ikon, pOpa, Muscat, Kisnotrbo ( coaching in a big UEFA five league), are coaching overseas. There are also a number of assistant Aussie coaches coaching overseas.
Arnie is a master coach who cares passionately about Aussie football. Recently he stated he had too few players of sufficient calibre for international football at the end of Bert's short tenure at the end of 2018. So to his credit, he took on coaching the Olympic team, for no remuneration, to develop the next generation of talent for the Socceroos.
And something Arnie has discovered is that the younger players in the Aus Under 16s, under 17s and under 20s, have technical skills no previous generation of Aussie footballers have.
The reason we got so far in Qatar, is because Arnie fast-tracked Rowles, Souttar, McGree?, Tilio, Baccus, Genreau, Kuol, Metcalfe, Devlin, et al, from the youngsters, to step up to international football. No foreign coach would have done this. They would have walked away from the Socceroo job.
Arnie is also partially the Technical Director of Aussie football, with Trevor Morgan focusing on youth development and coach education,
Arnie deserves great credit.
We are very lucky to have him. He is one of the best coaches in world football. And the best coach the Socceoros have ever had, including Bert ( World Cup finalist with Holland in 2010) and Guus (UEFA Champ league semi-finalist with PSV).
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arnieball should be studied documented and made natiional curriculum.
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+xIrvine reminds me of myself. So passionate yet can't get fundamentals right. He was distraught tonight. Seeing the video after the Denmark game of the players' families, it's much bigger than what we just see on the pitch. Behich was being consoled by Devlin post game. Their body and mind has been through a lot the last 4 ears to get here. Arnold needs a holiday in the sun too. It's nearly killed him Arnold has aged 15 years in the last 4. You can really see it in his face. I'm really hoping he can go and chill for a couple of weeks and just relax somewhere.
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+xWe went from almost going out to UAE to pushing argies. Fair play.
Better than Guus
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I have absolutely no doubt that if Arnie was blessed with technically gifted players that we wouldn’t be a low defensive-block counter attacking team.
Arnie is the archetypal NT manager. We need more like him.
I think Popa & Musky are of a similar mould.
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We went from almost going out to UAE to pushing argies. Fair play.
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+xIrvine reminds me of myself. So passionate yet can't get fundamentals right. He was distraught tonight. Seeing the video after the Denmark game of the players' families, it's much bigger than what we just see on the pitch. Behich was being consoled by Devlin post game. Their body and mind has been through a lot the last 4 ears to get here. Arnold needs a holiday in the sun too. It's nearly killed him It is actually great that they are distraught. It means they truly believed that they could beat one of the best teams in the world.
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Irvine reminds me of myself. So passionate yet can't get fundamentals right. He was distraught tonight. Seeing the video after the Denmark game of the players' families, it's much bigger than what we just see on the pitch. Behich was being consoled by Devlin post game. Their body and mind has been through a lot the last 4 ears to get here. Arnold needs a holiday in the sun too. It's nearly killed him
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+xGot a lot right and some stuff wrong. I think he should stay for the next Asian Cup at least. Yep, he’s earned that right. Things I might have changed today is Irvine off at half time and Leckie off earlier for Kuol. Possibly Cummings instead of Maclaren. We needed players who can fight and possibly do the unexpected, not a tap in merchant. I never expected this team could look so comfortable against a top side as we did in the first half. That is down to Arnold.
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Got a lot right and some stuff wrong. I think he should stay for the next Asian Cup at least.
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+xArnie is an old fashioned Aussie bloke .Looking at him and hearing him talk you would think he would be a Rugby League or Aussie Rules person( too working class for Union).He came from a football family in the Sutherland area-still the most Anglo part of Sydney but through his involvement with the world game he has embraced the other cultures and ethnic groups who play football.He played in the Netherlands and Japan and has worked with great coaches such as Hiddink. He is passionate about football,especially Australian football and about youth development.The long,arduous and at times underwhelming WC qualification process was a learning experience for him as a coach and this showed in the UAE and Peru games.Even the French game showed that this team had some ability with that great goal by Goodwin and the lead up by Leckie and Souttar.That he and his staff were able to motivate the boys for Tunisia and Denmark demonstrated his man management skills plus his tactical nous ( and input from Meulensteen and Vidmar would have contributed). With Maltese parents dude :)
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Arnie is an old fashioned Aussie bloke .Looking at him and hearing him talk you would think he would be a Rugby League or Aussie Rules person( too working class for Union).He came from a football family in the Sutherland area-still the most Anglo part of Sydney but through his involvement with the world game he has embraced the other cultures and ethnic groups who play football.He played in the Netherlands and Japan and has worked with great coaches such as Hiddink.
He is passionate about football,especially Australian football and about youth development.The long,arduous and at times underwhelming WC qualification process was a learning experience for him as a coach and this showed in the UAE and Peru games.Even the French game showed that this team had some ability with that great goal by Goodwin and the lead up by Leckie and Souttar.That he and his staff were able to motivate the boys for Tunisia and Denmark demonstrated his man management skills plus his tactical nous ( and input from Meulensteen and Vidmar would have contributed).
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+x+xWould love arnie to win the asian cup and go deep in the confederation cup Is the confederation cup still happening? I thought it was being shut down for good. As far as I'm aware it's gone, and is being replaced by the repecharge (IDGAF how it's spelt) or whatever it is tournament being planned to replace intercontinental playoffs. Irrelevant note, but I tried to put together a World Cup finals draw (plus this little extra tournament) if it did indeed get changed to 48 teams (next WC qualification numbers). Italy still miss out. EDIT: Extra qualifiers this world cup would have been: UEFA: Ukraine, North Macedonia, Sweden OFC: New Zealand CONMEBOL: Peru, Colombia CONCACAF: Panama, Jamaica AFC: UAE, Iraq/Oman (the other to intercontinentals) CAF: 4 of Egypt, Algeria, Nigeria, Mali, DR Congo (the fifth goes to intercontinentals) Intercontinental Playoffs (2 of these qualify) Solomon Islands Chile Honduras 5th extra CAF qualifier (above) Iraq/Oman Syria/China
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Nice, thanks for posting........ reminds me a little of some of our past conversations eh" hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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https://twitter.com/OptusSport/status/1598195690491895808Great little bit on Arnie's origins at Sydney Croatia. How anyone can hate this man is beyond me.
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+xWould love arnie to win the asian cup and go deep in the confederation cup Is the confederation cup still happening? I thought it was being shut down for good.
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Would love arnie to win the asian cup and go deep in the confederation cup
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+x+x+x+xOfficially our MOST SUCCESSFUL MANAGER IN HISTORY!!! No one is ever allowed to say a bad word about Arnie ever again! ARNIE = LEGEND I hope Arnie stays on as Socceroo coach. Very few coaches in world football coach teams to the last 16 of the World Cup. Think of this. There are 7 big leagues in world football - England, Spain, France, Germany, Italy (could not even qualify for the 2018 and 2022 WCs), Brazil and Argentina. They each have about 20 teams per league. This equates to 140 current head coaches of the 140 teams in total. Many of those coaches never get to coach at a World Cup at all, let alone qualify for the last 16 of the WC. They don't get the opportunity to coach on the world's biggest stage in football. To get to the last 16 means that arguments that it is easy to qualify through a weak continental football federation are refuted. Any team in a WC group of 4 has to play at least 2, even 3 teams, outside their own continental football federation. Arnie, and his assistants, Rene Meulensteen and Tony Vidmar, will have been appraised by the big leagues' technical departments, as superb coaches at coaching cohesive and effective defences. I am glad you mentioned Meulensteen and Vidmar.Meulensteen from all accounts did a lot of scouting and player assessments in Europe for Arnie and obviously is a good judge of player strengths and weaknesses and also how a player fits into Arnie's style of coaching. I am glad Vidmar is so intimately involved in the coaching team.It was a great tragedy for him that he missed playing in the 2006 team because of a heart problem as he had been a stalwart player for the Socceroos for many years before that. Also Andrew Clarke the fitness coordinator always does a tremendous job with the NT and is highly appreciated by Arnie. John Crawley received heaps of criticism and not without some justification for the non selection of Mitch Langerak but he knew Ryan would come through when needed and with the unbelievable efforts of the defenders in front of him has had a relatively easy time in the last two games and has been able to more authoritative as the captain. Meulensteen is very much being what Arnie was to Hiddink I love that thought.
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He might stay on, I'd be getting his agent to open up negotiations very soon as he now has some serious leverage.
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+xForget the NC. Scottish Australians and the SPL is the key to our future. Yoogali Soccer Club the pioneers
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Forget the NC. Scottish Australians and the SPL is the key to our future.
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