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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ?
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? Why? Its coming. March or April 2025. Get over it. More Aussie kids will get a chance to play football at a higher standard. I understand some are fucking traumatised by that but just peel the band aid fast and get on with it.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? Your better than that. I suspect what anyone would say you'll counter so whats the point.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? Your better than that. I suspect what anyone would say you'll counter so whats the point. Things are not as simple as they seem LFC. I think they will just carry on as semi pro clubs with attendances that match that status. I seriously think that there is no more support out there for full time professional football clubs.
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+x+xNote : Dave Lewis wrote this However, from the actual quotes  Ill try and run it through Google football translator: “Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea" Were fucked, new franchises arent paying the 25 mill we promised Silverlake and are lowballing the shit out of us, cant find owners for the other 2 rudderless ships, weve had to sack 50% of our staff and the broadcaster think we have AIDS. If we give the few fans we DO still have an idea that football can exist outside our little anime/manga hip hop plastic bubble we are faaaarkkkkked.“We’re still trying to find our feet a bit (after diverging from FA) and I just feel it won’t help the current situation at all.“ Here there is NO cash, No cash here get it? Current PONZI situation only works if new entities pay the overseas fund managers otherwise what are we going to have left? A football competition? Pffft who cares.I think you’ll find most of the other A-League owners don’t quite get the timing of it either.” Most other A-league owners dont speak English and are confused what sport their investment is participating in.... Not sure why everywhere else in the world plays football (is that the correct spelling and how you say it?) in winter as do the other franchise leagues in Australia... God bless this
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+x+xNote : Dave Lewis wrote this However, from the actual quotes Ill try and run it through Google football translator: “Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea" Were fucked, new franchises arent paying the 25 mill we promised Silverlake and are lowballing the shit out of us, cant find owners for the other 2 rudderless ships, weve had to sack 50% of our staff and the broadcaster think we have AIDS. If we give the few fans we DO still have an idea that football can exist outside our little anime/manga hip hop plastic bubble we are faaaarkkkkked.“We’re still trying to find our feet a bit (after diverging from FA) and I just feel it won’t help the current situation at all.“ Here there is NO cash, No cash here get it? Current PONZI situation only works if new entities pay the overseas fund managers otherwise what are we going to have left? A football competition? Pffft who cares.I think you’ll find most of the other A-League owners don’t quite get the timing of it either.” Most other A-league owners dont speak English and are confused what sport their investment is participating in.... Not sure why everywhere else in the world plays football (is that the correct spelling and how you say it?) in winter as do the other franchise leagues in Australia... Hilarious interpretation and pretty much spot on. Not sure why the Mariners boss was sent out to do it, maybe because it’s the Mariners and nobody gives a s**t whether they survive or not (except me!).
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got?
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+x+x+xNote : Dave Lewis wrote this However, from the actual quotes Ill try and run it through Google football translator: “Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea" Were fucked, new franchises arent paying the 25 mill we promised Silverlake and are lowballing the shit out of us, cant find owners for the other 2 rudderless ships, weve had to sack 50% of our staff and the broadcaster think we have AIDS. If we give the few fans we DO still have an idea that football can exist outside our little anime/manga hip hop plastic bubble we are faaaarkkkkked.“We’re still trying to find our feet a bit (after diverging from FA) and I just feel it won’t help the current situation at all.“ Here there is NO cash, No cash here get it? Current PONZI situation only works if new entities pay the overseas fund managers otherwise what are we going to have left? A football competition? Pffft who cares.I think you’ll find most of the other A-League owners don’t quite get the timing of it either.” Most other A-league owners dont speak English and are confused what sport their investment is participating in.... Not sure why everywhere else in the world plays football (is that the correct spelling and how you say it?) in winter as do the other franchise leagues in Australia... God bless this :)
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? To Sustain clubs that have been playing the same sport in this country for 70+ years??? What sort of question is that mate? None of these clubs need Sevco to come along, we are talking about a minimal increase to their yearly spend which will be more than sufficiently covered by the increase in revenue that national exposure brings... best stay away from it if it offends you too much.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Money making venture??? I think you are on the wrong thread mate. We are talking about a football competition , sport entertainment product PTY LTD is on the Aleague thread. Or on TikTok or Instagram or whatever it is these days the consumers are going crazy for.
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+x+x+xNote : Dave Lewis wrote this However, from the actual quotes Ill try and run it through Google football translator: “Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea" Were fucked, new franchises arent paying the 25 mill we promised Silverlake and are lowballing the shit out of us, cant find owners for the other 2 rudderless ships, weve had to sack 50% of our staff and the broadcaster think we have AIDS. If we give the few fans we DO still have an idea that football can exist outside our little anime/manga hip hop plastic bubble we are faaaarkkkkked.“We’re still trying to find our feet a bit (after diverging from FA) and I just feel it won’t help the current situation at all.“ Here there is NO cash, No cash here get it? Current PONZI situation only works if new entities pay the overseas fund managers otherwise what are we going to have left? A football competition? Pffft who cares.I think you’ll find most of the other A-League owners don’t quite get the timing of it either.” Most other A-league owners dont speak English and are confused what sport their investment is participating in.... Not sure why everywhere else in the world plays football (is that the correct spelling and how you say it?) in winter as do the other franchise leagues in Australia... Hilarious interpretation and pretty much spot on. Not sure why the Mariners boss was sent out to do it, maybe because it’s the Mariners and nobody gives a s**t whether they survive or not (except me!). Thank you sir :) I feel sorry for the Mariners boss also btw... its NEVER the CFG that comes out to make these little jabs even though they are clearly pulling the strings in the background... Dont know if its just because they are absentee landlords and dont give a shit or if they are savvy enough to understand the message will totally get diluted by their foreignness.. Personally, I look forward to the day that Mariners, Newcastle, Perth Glory and Brisbane Roar finally realise that joining the NST is the way forward.
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+x+x+x+xNote : Dave Lewis wrote this However, from the actual quotes Ill try and run it through Google football translator: “Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea" Were fucked, new franchises arent paying the 25 mill we promised Silverlake and are lowballing the shit out of us, cant find owners for the other 2 rudderless ships, weve had to sack 50% of our staff and the broadcaster think we have AIDS. If we give the few fans we DO still have an idea that football can exist outside our little anime/manga hip hop plastic bubble we are faaaarkkkkked.“We’re still trying to find our feet a bit (after diverging from FA) and I just feel it won’t help the current situation at all.“ Here there is NO cash, No cash here get it? Current PONZI situation only works if new entities pay the overseas fund managers otherwise what are we going to have left? A football competition? Pffft who cares.I think you’ll find most of the other A-League owners don’t quite get the timing of it either.” Most other A-league owners dont speak English and are confused what sport their investment is participating in.... Not sure why everywhere else in the world plays football (is that the correct spelling and how you say it?) in winter as do the other franchise leagues in Australia... Hilarious interpretation and pretty much spot on. Not sure why the Mariners boss was sent out to do it, maybe because it’s the Mariners and nobody gives a s**t whether they survive or not (except me!). Thank you sir :) I feel sorry for the Mariners boss also btw... its NEVER the CFG that comes out to make these little jabs even though they are clearly pulling the strings in the background... Dont know if its just because they are absentee landlords and dont give a shit or if they are savvy enough to understand the message will totally get diluted by their foreignness.. Personally, I look forward to the day that Mariners, Newcastle, Perth Glory and Brisbane Roar finally realise that joining the NST is the way forward. Me too, I think it would be in the back of their minds. Those clubs would be a great addition to the NST.
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MSC I had a post pretty much lined up days back - hence I did the easy way out saying to Sutho he's better than that. Sure no one is making out its simple might I add but its also not that hard a bridge to climb whilst they are long time running owned clubs, some own their grounds or have long time council agreements. The FA also has put out their due diligence portofolio for all to consider the stds desired by FA and outgoings Plus all Clubs have had to pay for the privilidge. What I did LOL at the money making venture quote. Christ what football Club is banking $$$'s barring the likes of RM Man United and the other arab owned ones. At NST its bread and butter running on a oily rag as long as you can gain sponsers (normally local passionate business owners) who like getting behind their Club and how many there are past present and ahead. Not a bad foundation they have survived to this day. Seems to be alot out there doing so incl going down to PL2/3. They all survive and will going forward. Hasn't JJ mentoined there is a small broadcastor of some form to host the games ?. A major sponser in the wings ?. Plus in the meantime the current NST Clubs are chasing more sponsers for obviously the costs have increased. Sure its not easy work but I have confidence they will get enough to operate coering their ingoings outgoings. They have all also survived with minimal crowds as we well know.
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+xMSC I had a post pretty much lined up days back - hence I did the easy way out saying to Sutho he's better than that. Sure no one is making out its simple might I add but its also not that hard a bridge to climb whilst they are long time running owned clubs, some own their grounds or have long time council agreements. The FA also has put out their due diligence portofolio for all to consider the stds desired by FA and outgoings Plus all Clubs have had to pay for the privilidge. What I did LOL at the money making venture quote. Christ what football Club is banking $$$'s barring the likes of RM Man United and the other arab owned ones. At NST its bread and butter running on a oily rag as long as you can gain sponsers (normally local passionate business owners) who like getting behind their Club and how many there are past present and ahead. Not a bad foundation they have survived to this day. Seems to be alot out there doing so incl going down to PL2/3. They all survive and will going forward. Hasn't JJ mentoined there is a small broadcastor of some form to host the games ?. A major sponser in the wings ?. Plus in the meantime the current NST Clubs are chasing more sponsers for obviously the costs have increased. Sure its not easy work but I have confidence they will get enough to operate coering their ingoings outgoings. They have all also survived with minimal crowds as we well know. If even half the things I am hearing are true then there will be some pretty big surprises mid to late this year regarding players, sponsors and broadcasting.... Anyway, first match this Thursday back at Lakeside and look forward to it like a kid on Christmas eve :) Good luck to Apia and SU58 ...see you all next year.
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+x+xMSC I had a post pretty much lined up days back - hence I did the easy way out saying to Sutho he's better than that. Sure no one is making out its simple might I add but its also not that hard a bridge to climb whilst they are long time running owned clubs, some own their grounds or have long time council agreements. The FA also has put out their due diligence portofolio for all to consider the stds desired by FA and outgoings Plus all Clubs have had to pay for the privilidge. What I did LOL at the money making venture quote. Christ what football Club is banking $$$'s barring the likes of RM Man United and the other arab owned ones. At NST its bread and butter running on a oily rag as long as you can gain sponsers (normally local passionate business owners) who like getting behind their Club and how many there are past present and ahead. Not a bad foundation they have survived to this day. Seems to be alot out there doing so incl going down to PL2/3. They all survive and will going forward. Hasn't JJ mentoined there is a small broadcastor of some form to host the games ?. A major sponser in the wings ?. Plus in the meantime the current NST Clubs are chasing more sponsers for obviously the costs have increased. Sure its not easy work but I have confidence they will get enough to operate coering their ingoings outgoings. They have all also survived with minimal crowds as we well know. If even half the things I am hearing are true then there will be some pretty big surprises mid to late this year regarding players, sponsors and broadcasting.... Anyway, first match this Thursday back at Lakeside and look forward to it like a kid on Christmas eve :) Good luck to Apia and SU58 ...see you all next year. I’ll look forward to going down to Lakeside to watch the Mariners play you in the ‘ National’ League in a couple of years time (hopefully).
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+x+x+xMSC I had a post pretty much lined up days back - hence I did the easy way out saying to Sutho he's better than that. Sure no one is making out its simple might I add but its also not that hard a bridge to climb whilst they are long time running owned clubs, some own their grounds or have long time council agreements. The FA also has put out their due diligence portofolio for all to consider the stds desired by FA and outgoings Plus all Clubs have had to pay for the privilidge. What I did LOL at the money making venture quote. Christ what football Club is banking $$$'s barring the likes of RM Man United and the other arab owned ones. At NST its bread and butter running on a oily rag as long as you can gain sponsers (normally local passionate business owners) who like getting behind their Club and how many there are past present and ahead. Not a bad foundation they have survived to this day. Seems to be alot out there doing so incl going down to PL2/3. They all survive and will going forward. Hasn't JJ mentoined there is a small broadcastor of some form to host the games ?. A major sponser in the wings ?. Plus in the meantime the current NST Clubs are chasing more sponsers for obviously the costs have increased. Sure its not easy work but I have confidence they will get enough to operate coering their ingoings outgoings. They have all also survived with minimal crowds as we well know. If even half the things I am hearing are true then there will be some pretty big surprises mid to late this year regarding players, sponsors and broadcasting.... Anyway, first match this Thursday back at Lakeside and look forward to it like a kid on Christmas eve :) Good luck to Apia and SU58 ...see you all next year. I’ll look forward to going down to Lakeside to watch the Mariners play you in the ‘ National’ League in a couple of years time (hopefully). That would be make me extremely happy... Very welcome. Hellas v the Sea Bogans in 2026 .... lets hope eh :) I am also looking forward to visiting that wonderfull little ground with the palm trees and the views of the water ..... it looks absolutely spectacular on the tellie. Plus I owe my buddy Middie a couple of rounds of the good stuff after all the grief I have given him over the years :)
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got? You follow Liverpool & they are foreign owned. Nothing to do with me, you just a hypocrite.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got? You follow Liverpool & they are foreign owned. Nothing to do with me, you just a hypocrite. Liverpool is also ALSO a foreign club as far as Im concerned Robbo so any ownership will be foreign... As far as following it..... eh whatever man, Im happy if they win and sad if they lose, thats the extent of my "following them". They will always be in another country, just like Napoli, and Barca and Celtic and Borrusia and Ajax and all the other clubs around the world I also "follow" etc etc etc Ill "follow" them no matter who owns them because I simply dont really care as much as I do for soccer in THIS country, the country of my birth and the country of my one true love South Melbourne Hellas FC .... jump through as many mental hoops as you like mate, it wont change a thing :) BTW I started "following" Liverpool decades before they were foreign owned.... It really seems to upset you what I think doesnt it? Just follow your own convictions mate, I dont really care which club you support or dont support. What I find REALLY hypocritical is you following a franchise league controlled by a despicable foreign tyrant, made up of foreign owned franchises who want absolutely NOTHING to do with benefiting the Australian national football teams, let alone the thousands of real clubs in Australia and your biggest fear is "effnik clubs"??? .... Either you're dumb or racist, you decide which one fits your agenda better... You wilfully ignore the foreign ownership but don't wilfully accept you dont like migrants from non-English speaking countries founding and participating in clubs in Australia. You cant have both mate... You can't like one set of foreigners and not the other ... I mean you can if you are racist but you keep on telling me that you are NOT, so ............??
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+x+x+x+xMSC I had a post pretty much lined up days back - hence I did the easy way out saying to Sutho he's better than that. Sure no one is making out its simple might I add but its also not that hard a bridge to climb whilst they are long time running owned clubs, some own their grounds or have long time council agreements. The FA also has put out their due diligence portofolio for all to consider the stds desired by FA and outgoings Plus all Clubs have had to pay for the privilidge. What I did LOL at the money making venture quote. Christ what football Club is banking $$$'s barring the likes of RM Man United and the other arab owned ones. At NST its bread and butter running on a oily rag as long as you can gain sponsers (normally local passionate business owners) who like getting behind their Club and how many there are past present and ahead. Not a bad foundation they have survived to this day. Seems to be alot out there doing so incl going down to PL2/3. They all survive and will going forward. Hasn't JJ mentoined there is a small broadcastor of some form to host the games ?. A major sponser in the wings ?. Plus in the meantime the current NST Clubs are chasing more sponsers for obviously the costs have increased. Sure its not easy work but I have confidence they will get enough to operate coering their ingoings outgoings. They have all also survived with minimal crowds as we well know. If even half the things I am hearing are true then there will be some pretty big surprises mid to late this year regarding players, sponsors and broadcasting.... Anyway, first match this Thursday back at Lakeside and look forward to it like a kid on Christmas eve :) Good luck to Apia and SU58 ...see you all next year. I’ll look forward to going down to Lakeside to watch the Mariners play you in the ‘ National’ League in a couple of years time (hopefully). That would be make me extremely happy... Very welcome. Hellas v the Sea Bogans in 2026 .... lets hope eh :) I am also looking forward to visiting that wonderfull little ground with the palm trees and the views of the water ..... it looks absolutely spectacular on the tellie. Plus I owe my buddy Middie a couple of rounds of the good stuff after all the grief I have given him over the years :) I’m sure you’ll be equally welcome at the ‘world’s most scenic football stadium’. Fingers crossed it will happen.
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+x+x+x+x+xMSC I had a post pretty much lined up days back - hence I did the easy way out saying to Sutho he's better than that. Sure no one is making out its simple might I add but its also not that hard a bridge to climb whilst they are long time running owned clubs, some own their grounds or have long time council agreements. The FA also has put out their due diligence portofolio for all to consider the stds desired by FA and outgoings Plus all Clubs have had to pay for the privilidge. What I did LOL at the money making venture quote. Christ what football Club is banking $$$'s barring the likes of RM Man United and the other arab owned ones. At NST its bread and butter running on a oily rag as long as you can gain sponsers (normally local passionate business owners) who like getting behind their Club and how many there are past present and ahead. Not a bad foundation they have survived to this day. Seems to be alot out there doing so incl going down to PL2/3. They all survive and will going forward. Hasn't JJ mentoined there is a small broadcastor of some form to host the games ?. A major sponser in the wings ?. Plus in the meantime the current NST Clubs are chasing more sponsers for obviously the costs have increased. Sure its not easy work but I have confidence they will get enough to operate coering their ingoings outgoings. They have all also survived with minimal crowds as we well know. If even half the things I am hearing are true then there will be some pretty big surprises mid to late this year regarding players, sponsors and broadcasting.... Anyway, first match this Thursday back at Lakeside and look forward to it like a kid on Christmas eve :) Good luck to Apia and SU58 ...see you all next year. I’ll look forward to going down to Lakeside to watch the Mariners play you in the ‘ National’ League in a couple of years time (hopefully). That would be make me extremely happy... Very welcome. Hellas v the Sea Bogans in 2026 .... lets hope eh :) I am also looking forward to visiting that wonderfull little ground with the palm trees and the views of the water ..... it looks absolutely spectacular on the tellie. Plus I owe my buddy Middie a couple of rounds of the good stuff after all the grief I have given him over the years :) I’m sure you’ll be equally welcome at the ‘world’s most scenic football stadium’. Fingers crossed it will happen. In Australian Football its the hope that kills :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+xMSC I had a post pretty much lined up days back - hence I did the easy way out saying to Sutho he's better than that. Sure no one is making out its simple might I add but its also not that hard a bridge to climb whilst they are long time running owned clubs, some own their grounds or have long time council agreements. The FA also has put out their due diligence portofolio for all to consider the stds desired by FA and outgoings Plus all Clubs have had to pay for the privilidge. What I did LOL at the money making venture quote. Christ what football Club is banking $$$'s barring the likes of RM Man United and the other arab owned ones. At NST its bread and butter running on a oily rag as long as you can gain sponsers (normally local passionate business owners) who like getting behind their Club and how many there are past present and ahead. Not a bad foundation they have survived to this day. Seems to be alot out there doing so incl going down to PL2/3. They all survive and will going forward. Hasn't JJ mentoined there is a small broadcastor of some form to host the games ?. A major sponser in the wings ?. Plus in the meantime the current NST Clubs are chasing more sponsers for obviously the costs have increased. Sure its not easy work but I have confidence they will get enough to operate coering their ingoings outgoings. They have all also survived with minimal crowds as we well know. If even half the things I am hearing are true then there will be some pretty big surprises mid to late this year regarding players, sponsors and broadcasting.... Anyway, first match this Thursday back at Lakeside and look forward to it like a kid on Christmas eve :) Good luck to Apia and SU58 ...see you all next year. I’ll look forward to going down to Lakeside to watch the Mariners play you in the ‘ National’ League in a couple of years time (hopefully). That would be make me extremely happy... Very welcome. Hellas v the Sea Bogans in 2026 .... lets hope eh :) I am also looking forward to visiting that wonderfull little ground with the palm trees and the views of the water ..... it looks absolutely spectacular on the tellie. Plus I owe my buddy Middie a couple of rounds of the good stuff after all the grief I have given him over the years :) I’m sure you’ll be equally welcome at the ‘world’s most scenic football stadium’. Fingers crossed it will happen. In Australian Football its the hope that kills :) Too true, I have been waiting 50 odd years for football to get it right but I feel we are nearer now than ever with JJ running things. 🤫🤞
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got? You follow Liverpool & they are foreign owned. Nothing to do with me, you just a hypocrite. Liverpool is also ALSO a foreign club as far as Im concerned Robbo so any ownership will be foreign... As far as following it..... eh whatever man, Im happy if they win and sad if they lose, thats the extent of my "following them". They will always be in another country, just like Napoli, and Barca and Celtic and Borrusia and Ajax and all the other clubs around the world I also "follow" etc etc etc Ill "follow" them no matter who owns them because I simply dont really care as much as I do for soccer in THIS country, the country of my birth and the country of my one true love South Melbourne Hellas FC .... jump through as many mental hoops as you like mate, it wont change a thing :) BTW I started "following" Liverpool decades before they were foreign owned.... It really seems to upset you what I think doesnt it? Just follow your own convictions mate, I dont really care which club you support or dont support. What I find REALLY hypocritical is you following a franchise league controlled by a despicable foreign tyrant, made up of foreign owned franchises who want absolutely NOTHING to do with benefiting the Australian national football teams, let alone the thousands of real clubs in Australia and your biggest fear is "effnik clubs"??? .... Either you're dumb or racist, you decide which one fits your agenda better... You wilfully ignore the foreign ownership but don't wilfully accept you dont like migrants from non-English speaking countries founding and participating in clubs in Australia. You cant have both mate... You can't like one set of foreigners and not the other ... I mean you can if you are racist but you keep on telling me that you are NOT, so ............?? See you are the one calling people names just because it doesn't suit your narrative & you call me dumb or a racist. The fact that I live in Australia & wanted to follow football in the country but clubs that chanted Hellas or Croatia did not grab my fancy does not make me a racist. I have no issues with people like who do & do follow these clubs, but don't cry foul when the powers to be (NOT ME) decided that this is not the way to go after 40 years of failure of these so call Aussie clubs to capture the country's attention. Most of the big clubs in England are foreign owned but they are English clubs, do you have an issue there? I personally don't give 2 hoots about what club you follow or what you think. I just call you hypocritical because of all the reasons why you criticise anyone who doesn't follow your narrative eg the A-League & all it's followers & the reasons you don't like them (mainly because your club is not in it), like foreign ownership, closed shop competitions & tyrants, you follow clubs that are exactly those. You do realise one of the biggest tyrants of this world is the good old US of A.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? To Sustain clubs that have been playing the same sport in this country for 70+ years??? What sort of question is that mate? None of these clubs need Sevco to come along, we are talking about a minimal increase to their yearly spend which will be more than sufficiently covered by the increase in revenue that national exposure brings... best stay away from it if it offends you too much. Who is offended, seems like you are , if anyones dares to question your little semi pro clubs. What makes you feel that it will suceed this time ?
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got? You follow Liverpool & they are foreign owned. Nothing to do with me, you just a hypocrite. Liverpool is also ALSO a foreign club as far as Im concerned Robbo so any ownership will be foreign... As far as following it..... eh whatever man, Im happy if they win and sad if they lose, thats the extent of my "following them". They will always be in another country, just like Napoli, and Barca and Celtic and Borrusia and Ajax and all the other clubs around the world I also "follow" etc etc etc Ill "follow" them no matter who owns them because I simply dont really care as much as I do for soccer in THIS country, the country of my birth and the country of my one true love South Melbourne Hellas FC .... jump through as many mental hoops as you like mate, it wont change a thing :) BTW I started "following" Liverpool decades before they were foreign owned.... It really seems to upset you what I think doesnt it? Just follow your own convictions mate, I dont really care which club you support or dont support. What I find REALLY hypocritical is you following a franchise league controlled by a despicable foreign tyrant, made up of foreign owned franchises who want absolutely NOTHING to do with benefiting the Australian national football teams, let alone the thousands of real clubs in Australia and your biggest fear is "effnik clubs"??? .... Either you're dumb or racist, you decide which one fits your agenda better... You wilfully ignore the foreign ownership but don't wilfully accept you dont like migrants from non-English speaking countries founding and participating in clubs in Australia. You cant have both mate... You can't like one set of foreigners and not the other ... I mean you can if you are racist but you keep on telling me that you are NOT, so ............?? And there you go again with the racist card. You never fail, do you ?
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? To Sustain clubs that have been playing the same sport in this country for 70+ years??? What sort of question is that mate? None of these clubs need Sevco to come along, we are talking about a minimal increase to their yearly spend which will be more than sufficiently covered by the increase in revenue that national exposure brings... best stay away from it if it offends you too much. Who is offended, seems like you are , if anyones dares to question your little semi pro clubs. What makes you feel that it will suceed this time ? What makes you feel like it wont? Don't get your knickers in a twist old boy, you dont have to watch it or support it.....
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got? You follow Liverpool & they are foreign owned. Nothing to do with me, you just a hypocrite. Liverpool is also ALSO a foreign club as far as Im concerned Robbo so any ownership will be foreign... As far as following it..... eh whatever man, Im happy if they win and sad if they lose, thats the extent of my "following them". They will always be in another country, just like Napoli, and Barca and Celtic and Borrusia and Ajax and all the other clubs around the world I also "follow" etc etc etc Ill "follow" them no matter who owns them because I simply dont really care as much as I do for soccer in THIS country, the country of my birth and the country of my one true love South Melbourne Hellas FC .... jump through as many mental hoops as you like mate, it wont change a thing :) BTW I started "following" Liverpool decades before they were foreign owned.... It really seems to upset you what I think doesnt it? Just follow your own convictions mate, I dont really care which club you support or dont support. What I find REALLY hypocritical is you following a franchise league controlled by a despicable foreign tyrant, made up of foreign owned franchises who want absolutely NOTHING to do with benefiting the Australian national football teams, let alone the thousands of real clubs in Australia and your biggest fear is "effnik clubs"??? .... Either you're dumb or racist, you decide which one fits your agenda better... You wilfully ignore the foreign ownership but don't wilfully accept you dont like migrants from non-English speaking countries founding and participating in clubs in Australia. You cant have both mate... You can't like one set of foreigners and not the other ... I mean you can if you are racist but you keep on telling me that you are NOT, so ............?? And there you go again with the racist card. You never fail, do you ? He talks about 2 types of foreigners. One that he thinks is running the A-League are despicable foreign tyrant. Is this not racism? The other are what he deemed as 'effnik clubs', all I have ever said in Australia I personally (no issues about others) wouldn't follow a club that chants a foreign country as their main chant. For this he calls be dumb or racist, amazing, victim mentality. I don't need to follow a Portuguese club in Australia, maybe because there is enough Portuguese players playing in the top clubs in Europe to keep my attention on my heritage going. Maybe that is his issue. The A-League like the NSL aren't doing great due to poor admin & this upsets me, they deserve criticism (including this sill CCM boss) but to bag out the fans of the league & the clubs, he is doing himself no favours.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got? You follow Liverpool & they are foreign owned. Nothing to do with me, you just a hypocrite. Liverpool is also ALSO a foreign club as far as Im concerned Robbo so any ownership will be foreign... As far as following it..... eh whatever man, Im happy if they win and sad if they lose, thats the extent of my "following them". They will always be in another country, just like Napoli, and Barca and Celtic and Borrusia and Ajax and all the other clubs around the world I also "follow" etc etc etc Ill "follow" them no matter who owns them because I simply dont really care as much as I do for soccer in THIS country, the country of my birth and the country of my one true love South Melbourne Hellas FC .... jump through as many mental hoops as you like mate, it wont change a thing :) BTW I started "following" Liverpool decades before they were foreign owned.... It really seems to upset you what I think doesnt it? Just follow your own convictions mate, I dont really care which club you support or dont support. What I find REALLY hypocritical is you following a franchise league controlled by a despicable foreign tyrant, made up of foreign owned franchises who want absolutely NOTHING to do with benefiting the Australian national football teams, let alone the thousands of real clubs in Australia and your biggest fear is "effnik clubs"??? .... Either you're dumb or racist, you decide which one fits your agenda better... You wilfully ignore the foreign ownership but don't wilfully accept you dont like migrants from non-English speaking countries founding and participating in clubs in Australia. You cant have both mate... You can't like one set of foreigners and not the other ... I mean you can if you are racist but you keep on telling me that you are NOT, so ............?? And there you go again with the racist card. You never fail, do you ? Wouldn't touch a raw nerve unless there was some partial truth to it would it now Sutho? Why don't you enlighten me? What OTHER objection to these clubs could you possibly have? - Its not the money (it has been repeated to ridiculousness over and over again AND financially modelled by FA, BDM and the clubs themselves, not to mention the fact they have been "afloat" for decades already)
- It cant be the colours (I mean there are no Oranges or Purples anywhere)
- It shouldnt be the names - I mean South Melbourne, Wollongong, Preston, Avondale ... all seem pretty straight forward to me.
- It cant be "geographical" everyone is screaming that travel in this country makes a second division prohibitive so to start with they are focusing on the most populated regions with the aim of introducing pro/rel to all clubs in Australia
- It cant be the fact that these clubs are members owned by soccer fans that are Australians.....
So what exactly is it about this particular set of clubs that is so unpalatable???
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. well ofcourse, they are their own entity so he speaks from their side of the fence hence our overall big picture football conundrum. Seriously - I feel sorry for them (shutup MSC :)) for afterall it is the game I luv here and we'd all wish for success/growth but whilst we are 2 separate movements in our little small place its not going to work out. No way is this APL going to grow to the heights like the next new thing of the early days. For thats the main outlook/hangover why people think it can recover, it was a sugar hit (hiding/smoking the underlying issues) followed by the woeful mismanagement and model, they can add as many franchise's they want even at discounted $5M license's who are the followers/supporters going to be ???? Where they going to come from ? Oh every new area like Canbra for eg, sugar hit for a while, wow new gig in our town, will be looked upon a success x 2/3yrs then it will drop and drop. People are going to keep hoping this boat is going to make that huge long U turn its going to be the Aussie MLS success storey, I really can't see it. The saudis can't win heaps new supporters spending billions. The fish are where the fish are - grass roots (heaps of regos no1 sport) to NPL land. Copious new followers are not going to come from young Gen Z/Alphas yaddayadda - NST below are the foundations of football, thousands of people are not going to APL thousands. Sorry LFC, this goes both ways!!!! You cannot lay all the blame on one side, it takes all to unite. thats the key problem, both ways for sure but you miss a main point, we can't have 2 different leagues operating. We are not big enough in every single matter that needs to grow the game. 1 does it this way the other does it that way. Impossible. By the way RoyalDave alot of good and mentioned points many times by many. Don't think I missed the point LFC, I didn't agree with what the CCM CEO said, very stupid & again based on self interest. My point is this is not one sided. Nick Galatas the NSD CEO has not been talking too kindly of the A-League & many others on Twitter, the us versus them mentality. They too are not showing the unity that is required as you clearly highlighted to grow the game. The AFL doesn't have to worry about football because we are NOT UNITED. Nick Galatas and the AAFC have nothing to do with the NST mate... they are volunteers, fans like you and me that decided to help do something about it... They gathered the real clubs together to see what they wanted, petitioned the FFA at the time and have gotten themselves an advisory (or is it an spectatory) position on the board of the now FA... Its is JJ and the baord of the new (Lowy free) Football Australia that have finally set us free to unite: Football Australia wants all the clubs to be united, Football Australia wants a club licensing system in place for all the clubs, Football Australia wants expansion to happen from existing clubs and not from bullshit franchise plastic crap, Football Australia wants promotion and relegation and a true football pyramid, Football Australia wants all club football in Australia to be played in winter.... Football Australia want a national transfer system in place to fairly compensate clubs who develop players. Football Australia is United, 99% of all the clubs in this country are united it is 11 foreign owned private franchises and their fans who DONT WANNA BE INCLUDED....... LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. Ah re Robbo, what can I do with you? LFC, see what I mean, this does not sound like someone who wants a united competition. He complains the A-League is a closed competition & won't follow it. - I dont "follow it" because my team isnt in it ... not that hard to comprehend buddy. I follow a team not a league.Yet he follows the AFL & that is a closed competition. - hahah AFL is a niche hobby sport like UFC or Wrestling, it will die if it wasnt closed ... I wont cry too much if it does.His beloved SMFC is now joining a closed competition. - despite the fact that we spent the past 18 years in a fully OPEN comeptition and the new NST is being set up with the aim of connecting the whole pyramid? What else ya got? You follow Liverpool & they are foreign owned. Nothing to do with me, you just a hypocrite. Liverpool is also ALSO a foreign club as far as Im concerned Robbo so any ownership will be foreign... As far as following it..... eh whatever man, Im happy if they win and sad if they lose, thats the extent of my "following them". They will always be in another country, just like Napoli, and Barca and Celtic and Borrusia and Ajax and all the other clubs around the world I also "follow" etc etc etc Ill "follow" them no matter who owns them because I simply dont really care as much as I do for soccer in THIS country, the country of my birth and the country of my one true love South Melbourne Hellas FC .... jump through as many mental hoops as you like mate, it wont change a thing :) BTW I started "following" Liverpool decades before they were foreign owned.... It really seems to upset you what I think doesnt it? Just follow your own convictions mate, I dont really care which club you support or dont support. What I find REALLY hypocritical is you following a franchise league controlled by a despicable foreign tyrant, made up of foreign owned franchises who want absolutely NOTHING to do with benefiting the Australian national football teams, let alone the thousands of real clubs in Australia and your biggest fear is "effnik clubs"??? .... Either you're dumb or racist, you decide which one fits your agenda better... You wilfully ignore the foreign ownership but don't wilfully accept you dont like migrants from non-English speaking countries founding and participating in clubs in Australia. You cant have both mate... You can't like one set of foreigners and not the other ... I mean you can if you are racist but you keep on telling me that you are NOT, so ............?? And there you go again with the racist card. You never fail, do you ? He talks about 2 types of foreigners. One that he thinks is running the A-League are despicable foreign tyrant. Is this not racism? The other are what he deemed as 'effnik clubs', all I have ever said in Australia I personally (no issues about others) wouldn't follow a club that chants a foreign country as their main chant. For this he calls be dumb or racist, amazing, victim mentality. I don't need to follow a Portuguese club in Australia, maybe because there is enough Portuguese players playing in the top clubs in Europe to keep my attention on my heritage going. Maybe that is his issue. The A-League like the NSL aren't doing great due to poor admin & this upsets me, they deserve criticism (including this sill CCM boss) but to bag out the fans of the league & the clubs, he is doing himself no favours. See this is where you have lost the thread of the conversation Robbo, Ill try AGAIN to pose my question to you. You are right, there are two types of foreigners but for some reason you think one is acceptable and the other isnt. Im simply trying to find out why? Why is a foreign owned team more "Australian" in your eyes than one that chants "Marconi" I really dont understand it. Do you get upset when the captain of the CFG franchise thanked his "holiness the sheikh" when they won the grand final a few years back? Or is that perfectly acceptable in your Australia? 1) Foreign investors that own shares in a sports business franchise 2) Migrants who formed football clubs upon arrival in Australia which then they transferred the love for to their kids and grandkids and great grandkids. Why is one foreigner more "Australian" than the other? Is it money? or because they pretend to include you? What is it? Im NOT calling you dumb OR racist I am simply asking you which of the two you are? If you are neither of the two then PLEASE explain to me how you can justify following one set of "foreigners" and not the other? No victim mentality btw old mate, I just love calling out the illogical hatred.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? To Sustain clubs that have been playing the same sport in this country for 70+ years??? What sort of question is that mate? None of these clubs need Sevco to come along, we are talking about a minimal increase to their yearly spend which will be more than sufficiently covered by the increase in revenue that national exposure brings... best stay away from it if it offends you too much. Who is offended, seems like you are , if anyones dares to question your little semi pro clubs. What makes you feel that it will suceed this time ? What makes you feel like it wont? Don't get your knickers in a twist old boy, you dont have to watch it or support it..... The only knickers twisted, are your own. I actually hope it works, but history in this country, is against it.
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“Putting competition next to the A-League, when we’re in the midst of several business corrections, isn’t the best idea"
It's interesting that he used the term 'next to'. Im not sure why you find this surprising? Of course the APL is going to see a national football competition as a rival to their money making ambitions..... Even they cannot, with any credibility, deny that the creation of another professional league wont help grow the sport but they dont want it to jeopardise the financial returns of a handful of foreigners... its ludicrous it has come to this.... they dont even hide behind the pretence of caring about "the sport" its just a means to an end, a product to sell to gullible consumers..... Who is making money? This second division comp won't last one season, why, because once they realise the cost of running it and the fact that asking parents to pay $5000 for their child to play in their junior and youth teams just in the hope of progressing into the senior team in what will be a pseudo NPL comp won't bring in the revenue they'll need to continue. No bums on seats means no money means no comp. Where is Wollongong going to get enough money to exist? What will the Marconi board do to finance their team, divert money that should go to their members entertainment. Not that hasn't happened in previous years, has it. Just explain to me where the money is coming from for it to be sustainable and a money making venture. Nst is coming, get the fuck over it So then, explain where the money is coming from ? To Sustain clubs that have been playing the same sport in this country for 70+ years??? What sort of question is that mate? None of these clubs need Sevco to come along, we are talking about a minimal increase to their yearly spend which will be more than sufficiently covered by the increase in revenue that national exposure brings... best stay away from it if it offends you too much. Who is offended, seems like you are , if anyones dares to question your little semi pro clubs. What makes you feel that it will suceed this time ? What makes you feel like it wont? Don't get your knickers in a twist old boy, you dont have to watch it or support it..... The only knickers twisted, are your own. I actually hope it works, but history in this country, is against it. Cant be twisted when Im not wearing any :) Im surprised that you "hope it works" to be honest, your comments come across as if you really hope the opposite.
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