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			    +x+x+x+x+xOk, so I was going to look at those remaining in the Asian Cup and how this can affect the rankings leading into the next stage of WCQ assuming that 'favourites' (by FIFA Ranking) win without penalties - which means Japan defeats Australia in the final, will look like this AFTER the Asian Cup., with points breakdowns etc. The reason why I have gone for this is because.. well it's the most likely way the bigger teams bag bigger points, and is a bit more realistic. But.. the way it currently stands is the way it will be if that happen, as the way the FIFA Rankings points system is structured, now that we are in a knockout stage, is that countries cannot lose points, only gain points. I'll still include the match by match points breakdown below though, but from what I gather, the only match that will drastically change anything in the pots is anything Tajikistan or Jordan can manage to do, and the result of Australia v Korea (whichever side wins should end up in 3rd, and therefore Pot 1)POT 1 - Japan, Iran, AustraliaPOT 2 - Korea, Qatar, SaudiPOT 3 - Iraq, Uzbekistan, UAEPOT 4 - Oman, Jordan, BahrainPOT 5 - China, Syria, PalestinePOT 6 - Tajikistan, Thailand, Kyrgyzstan 
 In contrast, the rankings prior to the Asian Cup would have had this as the pots: POT 1 - Japan, Iran, Korea POT 2 - Australia, Saudi, Qatar POT 3 - Iraq, UAE, Uzbekistan POT 4 - Oman, China, Bahrain POT 5 - Jordan, Syria, Vietnam POT 6 - Krygyzstan, Palestine, India Obviously this is only taking the rankings into account, and not the actual group structure of the WCQ, As I'm assuming that there is some match ups that will prevent all the top 18 reaching the next stage solely based off the current FIFA Rankings favourites EDIT: Which I am now going to do. So below is the pots above, but using the groupings for qualifying -  POT 1 - Japan, Iran, Australia/Korea POT 2 - Australia/Korea, Saudi Arabia, Qatar POT 3 - Iraq, UAE, Uzbekistan POT 4 - Oman, Jordan, Bahrain POT 5 - China, Syria, Palestine POT 6 - India, Kyrgyzstan, VietnamMATCH BY MATCH BREAKDOWN QUARTER FINALS Tajikistan defeats Jordan = 22.92 pts
 Jordan defeats Tajikistan = 17.08 pts
 Tajikistan defeats Jordan in penalties = 12.92 pts
 Jordan defeats Tajikistan in penalties = Jordan 7.08 pts, Tajikistan 2.92 pts
 
 Australia defeats Korea = 19.65 pts
 Korea defeats Australia = 20.35 pts
 Australia defeats Korea in penalties = Australia 9.65 pts, Korea 0.35 pts
 Korea defeats Australia in penalties = 10.35 pts
 
 Iran defeats Japan = 20.99 pts
 Japan defeats Iran = 19.01 pts
 Iran defeats Japan in penalties = 10.99 pts
 Japan defeats Iran in penalties = Japan 9.01 pts, Iran 0.99 pts
 
 Qatar defeats Uzbekistan = 17.21 pts
 Uzbekistan defeats Qatar = 22.79 pts
 Qatar defeats Uzbekistan in penalties = Qatar 7.21 pts, Uzbekistan 2.79 pts
 Uzbekistan defeats Qatar in penalties = 12.79 pts
 
 SEMI-FINALS
 Obviously the points change, so I'm going to use the assumption that in the quarters the favourites all win before penalties in the calculating the next scenarios (which essentially means a repeat of 2011)
 
 Australia defeats Jordan = 10.76 pts
 Jordan defeats Australia = 29.24 pts
 Australia defeats Jordan in penalties = Australia 0.76 pts, Jordan 9.24 pts
 Jordan defeats Australia in penalties = 19.24 pts
 
 Japan defeats Qatar = 13.8 pts
 Qatar defeats Japan = 26.2 pts
 Japan defeats Qatar in penalties = Japan 3.8 pts, Qatar 6.2 pts
 Qatar defeats Japan in penalties = 16.2 pts
 
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 Australia defeats Japan = 22.4 pts
 Japan defeats Australia = 17.6 pts
 Australia defeats Japan in penalties = 12.4 pts
 Japan defeats Australia in penalties = Japan 7.6 pts, Australia 2.4 pts
 SK , China, Thailand are in the same group.  1 of them won't make the next round  I know I wrote a lot in the post, but I did  already allude to that Thanks so much for putting in the hours on this mate, it makes it very clear.... Well, you know what they say about public servants working from home... :Whistling: Happy to know that THIS is what my tax is funding :)                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    We've got to ensure passage asap and then in June we can do what we like. I don't think we can appease Westerlo much to get Bos for the U23 but it's worth a try. What I mean is, forging the March travel even though it's a FIFA date to allow him time away during April.  We must get Bos even with the other good options. My squad for the Lebanon games
 Ryan, Gauci, Thomas
 
 Atkinson Deng Souttar Rowles Circati Behich Bos
 
 Irvine, O'Neill, Hrustic, Metcalfe, McGree, Baccus
 
 Yengi, Iredale, Boyle, Goodwin, Borrello, Silvera, Fornaroli
 
 
 For June Bangladesh away and Palestine at home. Hopefully dead rubbers so a great chance to rest some and really introduce a big fresh bunch. A lot will be coming home for family visits (or have their Euro summer holiday) so we may as well have them join camp before resting. The boat has totally sailed and maybe he doesn't want one but a Sainsbury farewell would be nice.
 
 Gauci Bilokapic Thomas
 
 Simmons, Talbot, Circati Triantis, Deng, Iredale, Farrell
 
 Genreau, Hrustic Yazbek, Nisbet, Hollman, Nieuwenhof, Kalik
 
 Iredale, Mo Toure, Yengi, Irankunda, G Kuol, Mabil
 
 
 Deng should be in season. Triantis should have played more. Burgess will be tired after a hopeful promotion. Leckie, Maclaren and Borrello will surely get a look in. It's not going to happen but a June mass rotation squad would be interesting to see.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xWe've got to ensure passage asap and then in June we can do what we like. I don't think we can appease Westerlo much to get Bos for the U23 but it's worth a try. What I mean is, forging the March travel even though it's a FIFA date to allow him time away during April.  We must get Bos even with the other good options. My squad for the Lebanon games Ryan, Gauci, Thomas Atkinson Deng Souttar Rowles Circati Behich Bos Irvine, O'Neill, Hrustic, Metcalfe, McGree, Baccus Yengi, Iredale, Boyle, Goodwin, Borrello , Silvera, Fornaroli For June Bangladesh away and Palestine at home. Hopefully dead rubbers so a great chance to rest some and really introduce a big fresh bunch. A lot will be coming home for family visits (or have their Euro summer holiday) so we may as well have them join camp before resting. The boat has totally sailed and maybe he doesn't want one but a Sainsbury farewell would be nice. Gauci Bilokapic Thomas Simmons, Talbot, Circati Triantis, Deng, Iredale, Farrell Genreau, Hrustic Yazbek, Nisbet, Hollman, Nieuwenhof, Kalik Iredale, Mo Toure, Yengi, Irankunda, G Kuol, Mabil Deng should be in season. Triantis should have played more. Burgess will be tired after a hopeful promotion. Leckie, Maclaren and Borrello will surely get a look in. It's not going to happen but a June mass rotation squad would be interesting to see. Can't see Borello making that squad. He only has a tentative return date at the end of this month.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    I read Borrello would be on the bench Sunday vs Macarthur.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xI read Borrello would be on the bench Sunday vs Macarthur. Well that is well ahead of schedule!!                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    reckon our home squads should have a lot of new players and our older players play more away from home. We probably have 1 more good season with behich, 1 with duke, maybe 2 more with goodwin, 2 more with irvine and 4 more with ryan. It takes 20 games for a player to climatize to international football
 
 
 By my count our caps for our up and coming players are (bolded players are already experienced)
 
 Mcgree 24
 Metcalfe 12
 Bos 8
 rowles 16
 souttar 27
 Baccus 16
 O'Niel 6
 Burgess 4
 atkinson 10
 miller 6
 yengi 3
 tilio 7
 silvera 3
 gauci 2
 circati 1
 Robertson 2
 Jones 4
 
 need to use those older players to manage the transition and get as many of these upcoming players up to 20 caps by the next world cup. Goodwin, irvine and ryan might still be going great by the next world cup
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xI read Borrello would be on the bench Sunday vs Macarthur. Well that is well ahead of schedule!! Yeah I was half awake and saw that and thought it was early. Leckie back too. Options options.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xreckon our home squads should have a lot of new players and our older players play more away from home.  We probably have 1 more good season with behich, 1 with duke, maybe 2 more with goodwin, 2 more with irvine and 4 more with ryan. It takes 20 games for a player to climatize to international football By my count our caps for our up and coming players are (bolded players are already experienced)Mcgree 24 Metcalfe 12 Bos 8 rowles 16souttar 27 Baccus 16 O'Niel 6 Burgess 4 atkinson 10 miller 6 yengi 3 tilio 7 silvera 3 gauci 2 circati 1 Robertson 2 Jones 4 need to use those older players to manage the transition and get as many of these upcoming players up to 20 caps by the next world cup. Goodwin, irvine and ryan might still be going great by the next world cup Journalist asked Arnie post game 'the squad has an average on 19 caps' and think how much Ryan pushes it up. Capwise a raw squad but other nations have lots of young talent playing well right away. Pretty annoyed McGree still has so few. Called up in 2017 under Ange then away then covid and now it's starting to come on.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    51:10. I've seen enough. What a pass by Nisbet. Get him into the national team. Mooy vibes.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xWe've got to ensure passage asap and then in June we can do what we like. I don't think we can appease Westerlo much to get Bos for the U23 but it's worth a try. What I mean is, forging the March travel even though it's a FIFA date to allow him time away during April.  We must get Bos even with the other good options. My squad for the Lebanon games Ryan, Gauci, Thomas Atkinson Deng Souttar Rowles Circati Behich Bos Irvine, O'Neill, Hrustic, Metcalfe, McGree, Baccus Yengi, Iredale, Boyle, Goodwin, Borrello, Silvera, Fornaroli For June Bangladesh away and Palestine at home. Hopefully dead rubbers so a great chance to rest some and really introduce a big fresh bunch. A lot will be coming home for family visits (or have their Euro summer holiday) so we may as well have them join camp before resting. The boat has totally sailed and maybe he doesn't want one but a Sainsbury farewell would be nice. Gauci Bilokapic Thomas Simmons, Talbot, Circati Triantis, Deng, Iredale, Farrell Genreau, Hrustic Yazbek, Nisbet, Hollman, Nieuwenhof, Kalik Iredale, Mo Toure, Yengi, Irankunda, G Kuol, Mabil Deng should be in season. Triantis should have played more. Burgess will be tired after a hopeful promotion. Leckie, Maclaren and Borrello will surely get a look in. It's not going to happen but a June mass rotation squad would be interesting to see. Bos's season should be done by April, just depends on if they make the playoff brackets.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xreckon our home squads should have a lot of new players and our older players play more away from home.  We probably have 1 more good season with behich, 1 with duke, maybe 2 more with goodwin, 2 more with irvine and 4 more with ryan. It takes 20 games for a player to climatize to international football By my count our caps for our up and coming players are (bolded players are already experienced)Mcgree 24 Metcalfe 12 Bos 8 rowles 16souttar 27 Baccus 16 O'Niel 6 Burgess 4 atkinson 10 miller 6 yengi 3 tilio 7 silvera 3 gauci 2 circati 1 Robertson 2 Jones 4 need to use those older players to manage the transition and get as many of these upcoming players up to 20 caps by the next world cup. Goodwin, irvine and ryan might still be going great by the next world cup If Irvine or Goodwin make the 2026 World Cup, they'll be bench players especially with players like Volpato and Robertson roaming around and I hope Gauci can overtake Ryan in the next few years. It's really important that the younger players continue to overtake so we don't have a massive age-gap like we've had in the past where we miss a whole 5 year age group of Socceroos like 26-30 right now.  Arnie also hinted that there will be a few possible retirees from the Roos, I wonder who he means? Behich, Duke, Ryan, Fornaroli come to mind first?  Maybe even Goodwin, even though they are in good form still, it might be a lot for them to go through another cycle. I wouldn't be surprised to see some more seemingly premature retirees.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xreckon our home squads should have a lot of new players and our older players play more away from home.  We probably have 1 more good season with behich, 1 with duke, maybe 2 more with goodwin, 2 more with irvine and 4 more with ryan. It takes 20 games for a player to climatize to international football By my count our caps for our up and coming players are (bolded players are already experienced)Mcgree 24 Metcalfe 12 Bos 8 rowles 16souttar 27 Baccus 16 O'Niel 6 Burgess 4 atkinson 10 miller 6 yengi 3 tilio 7 silvera 3 gauci 2 circati 1 Robertson 2 Jones 4 need to use those older players to manage the transition and get as many of these upcoming players up to 20 caps by the next world cup. Goodwin, irvine and ryan might still be going great by the next world cup If Irvine or Goodwin make the 2026 World Cup, they'll be bench players especially with players like Volpato and Robertson roaming around and I hope Gauci can overtake Ryan in the next few years. It's really important that the younger players continue to overtake so we don't have a massive age-gap like we've had in the past where we miss a whole 5 year age group of Socceroos like 26-30 right now.  Arnie also hinted that there will be a few possible retirees from the Roos, I wonder who he means? Behich, Duke, Ryan, Fornaroli come to mind first?  Maybe even Goodwin, even though they are in good form still, it might be a lot for them to go through another cycle. I wouldn't be surprised to see some more seemingly premature retirees.  Leckie is also another possible retiree and Maclaren.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xWe've got to ensure passage asap and then in June we can do what we like. I don't think we can appease Westerlo much to get Bos for the U23 but it's worth a try. What I mean is, forging the March travel even though it's a FIFA date to allow him time away during April.  We must get Bos even with the other good options. My squad for the Lebanon games Ryan, Gauci, Thomas Atkinson Deng Souttar Rowles Circati Behich Bos Irvine, O'Neill, Hrustic, Metcalfe, McGree, Baccus Yengi, Iredale, Boyle, Goodwin, Borrello, Silvera, Fornaroli For June Bangladesh away and Palestine at home. Hopefully dead rubbers so a great chance to rest some and really introduce a big fresh bunch. A lot will be coming home for family visits (or have their Euro summer holiday) so we may as well have them join camp before resting. The boat has totally sailed and maybe he doesn't want one but a Sainsbury farewell would be nice. Gauci Bilokapic Thomas Simmons, Talbot, Circati Triantis, Deng, Iredale, Farrell Genreau, Hrustic Yazbek, Nisbet, Hollman, Nieuwenhof, Kalik Iredale, Mo Toure, Yengi, Irankunda, G Kuol, Mabil Deng should be in season. Triantis should have played more. Burgess will be tired after a hopeful promotion. Leckie, Maclaren and Borrello will surely get a look in. It's not going to happen but a June mass rotation squad would be interesting to see. Bos's season should be done by April, just depends on if they make the playoff brackets.  You're right. It appears 4-5 regular matchdays then the respective bracket round robin of around 6. Tournament starts in 10 weeks.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    So u are saying bos could play for the olyroos?                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    A creative lineup I'd love to see in the near future
 
 Ryan/Gauci
 Atkinson          Souttar     Circati         Bos
 
 Irvine
 Robertson
 Hrustic
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 Unknown?
 
 
 Very attacking and heaps of creativity in the midfield and out-wide. The 9 is a problem, not sure who to put.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Is it my imagination or are japan and south koreas u23 teams not look as frightening as i thought they would
 If anything we might be a tiny bit better on paper even taking into account sks player for psg
 
 Then again it is hard to discern the strength of the domestic players
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xA creative lineup I'd love to see in the near future                          Ryan/Gauci Atkinson          Souttar     Circati         Bos                                        Irvine                       Robertson                             Hrustic    Volpato                                        Goodwin                           Unknown?            Very attacking and heaps of creativity in the midfield and out-wide. The 9 is a problem, not sure who to put.  Yeah we've got to start doing it. Irvine is too panicky alone as a 6. Striker has to be Iredale. Someone scoring Bundesliga 2 just has to be in along with Yengi and Mo Toure.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xA creative lineup I'd love to see in the near future                          Ryan/Gauci Atkinson          Souttar     Circati         Bos                                        Irvine                       Robertson                             Hrustic    Volpato                                        Goodwin                           Unknown?            Very attacking and heaps of creativity in the midfield and out-wide. The 9 is a problem, not sure who to put.  Yeah we've got to start doing it. Irvine is too panicky alone as a 6. Striker has to be Iredale. Someone scoring Bundesliga 2 just has to be in along with Yengi and Mo Toure.  I intend to watch iredale regularly                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xIs it my imagination or are japan and south koreas u23 teams not look as frightening as i thought they would If anything we might be a tiny bit better on paper even taking into account sks player for psg Then again it is hard to discern the strength of the domestic players Full strength u23's it's pretty even, they may win on coaching alone. If we are talking about U23 Asian Cup then you'd imagine most of the nations best Europeans players won't play which is the same issue we will have. I think we will probably get more commitments of Euro players than they will so I'd put us as favourites in front of them, very slightly. Very unfortunate we have to play one of them in the quarters and whoever wins is very close to Paris qualification. Robertson is 100% going to miss out, in fact he will only just make the Olympics if we qualify and will be rusty.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xIs it my imagination or are japan and south koreas u23 teams not look as frightening as i thought they would If anything we might be a tiny bit better on paper even taking into account sks player for psg Then again it is hard to discern the strength of the domestic players Full strength u23's it's pretty even, they may win on coaching alone. If we are talking about U23 Asian Cup then you'd imagine most of the nations best Europeans players won't play which is the same issue we will have. I think we will probably get more commitments of Euro players than they will so I'd put us as favourites in front of them, very slightly. Very unfortunate we have to play one of them in the quarters and whoever wins is very close to Paris qualification. Robertson is 100% going to miss out, in fact he will only just make the Olympics if we qualify and will be rusty.  Thought hammy's were only a 3 month recovery which would make him easily available for april? I was surprised that according to wiki they have very few players in eruope getting minutes                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+xIs it my imagination or are japan and south koreas u23 teams not look as frightening as i thought they would If anything we might be a tiny bit better on paper even taking into account sks player for psg Then again it is hard to discern the strength of the domestic players Full strength u23's it's pretty even, they may win on coaching alone. If we are talking about U23 Asian Cup then you'd imagine most of the nations best Europeans players won't play which is the same issue we will have. I think we will probably get more commitments of Euro players than they will so I'd put us as favourites in front of them, very slightly. Very unfortunate we have to play one of them in the quarters and whoever wins is very close to Paris qualification. Robertson is 100% going to miss out, in fact he will only just make the Olympics if we qualify and will be rusty.  Thought hammy's were only a 3 month recovery which would make him easily available for april? I was surprised that according to wiki they have very few players in eruope getting minutes  It's 3-6 month recovery. But he had the surgery on Jan 16th so even 3 months he wouldn't be fully healed by the start of the tournament and then he would need a few weeks of fitness and preparation. Not to mention he won't be released by Portsmouth, they just lost him for 4 months, they aren't going to lend him out. This is all assuming at the lower end of recovery, realistically it'll be more than 3 months probably. He won't make it.  Japan and South Korea have U23 players in Europe but they mostly play in the senior team and aren't wasted on age-group tournaments and realistically speaking the players in the K-League and J-League are at a higher level than the A-League based players we would bring. Japan's players are usually late bloomers too and move over to Europe a bit later.  Volpato and Robertson were our biggest factor to comfortability against U23 SK/Japan, without them it's going to be a close nail-biter.  There's a clear hierarchy in the Olyroos for selection and every player that is omitted from the squad (injuries, not allowed) considerably lessens our dominance likelihood. Regardless, we will still bring a team that can compete.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xA creative lineup I'd love to see in the near future                          Ryan/Gauci Atkinson          Souttar     Circati         Bos                                        Irvine                       Robertson                             Hrustic    Volpato                                        Goodwin                           Unknown?            Very attacking and heaps of creativity in the midfield and out-wide. The 9 is a problem, not sure who to put.  Yeah we've got to start doing it. Irvine is too panicky alone as a 6. Striker has to be Iredale. Someone scoring Bundesliga 2 just has to be in along with Yengi and Mo Toure.  Who would put as the 6? Baccus or O'Neill. I don't mind Baccus. I think O'Neill is good against bad teams and poor against good teams.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| grazorblade 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    +x+x+xA creative lineup I'd love to see in the near future                          Ryan/Gauci Atkinson          Souttar     Circati         Bos                                        Irvine                       Robertson                             Hrustic    Volpato                                        Goodwin                           Unknown?            Very attacking and heaps of creativity in the midfield and out-wide. The 9 is a problem, not sure who to put.  Yeah we've got to start doing it. Irvine is too panicky alone as a 6. Striker has to be Iredale. Someone scoring Bundesliga 2 just has to be in along with Yengi and Mo Toure.  Who would put as the 6? Baccus or O'Neill. I don't mind Baccus. I think O'Neill is good against bad teams and poor against good teams. Both are very few caps and could improve rapidly in years to come                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| NicCarBel 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Will be interesting to see the draw now with the added group of 6 teams
 Quick feeling of how I feel the pots will play out now:
 POT 1 - Japan, Iran, Sth Korea
 POT 2 - Australia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar
 POT 3 - Iraq, UAE, Uzbekistan
 POT 4 - Oman, Jordan, Bahrain
 POT 5 - China, Syria, Palestine
 POT 6 - India, Kyrgyzstan, Vietnam
 
 Heavy middle east presence in general (except Pots 1 and 6), but watch Iran get them all, and then probably Kyrgyzstan as well.
 Knowing our luck, we'll get Japan.
 
 IMO, there's a conspiracy theory if the groups end up like this:
 1: Japan, Australia, Uzbekistan, Jordan, Syria, Vietnam
 2: Iran, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Palestine, Kyrgyzstan
 3: South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman, China, India
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| bbouy 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    +xWill be interesting to see the draw now with the added group of 6 teams Quick feeling of how I feel the pots will play out now: POT 1 - Japan, Iran, Sth Korea POT 2 - Australia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar POT 3 - Iraq, UAE, Uzbekistan POT 4 - Oman, Jordan, Bahrain POT 5 - China, Syria, Palestine POT 6 - India, Kyrgyzstan, Vietnam Heavy middle east presence in general (except Pots 1 and 6), but watch Iran get them all, and then probably Kyrgyzstan as well. Knowing our luck, we'll get Japan. IMO, there's a conspiracy theory if the groups end up like this: 1: Japan, Australia, Uzbekistan, Jordan, Syria, Vietnam 2: Iran, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Palestine, Kyrgyzstan 3: South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman, China, India Would want: Iran, Australia, UAE, Oman, Palestine, Kyrgyzstan Bit hesitant to choose Oman and Palestine considering previous results but I'd hope with an improved team we can comfortably come top 2. But realistically we'll probably get the aforementioned toughest group                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| bbouy 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    +xreckon our home squads should have a lot of new players and our older players play more away from home.  We probably have 1 more good season with behich, 1 with duke, maybe 2 more with goodwin, 2 more with irvine and 4 more with ryan. It takes 20 games for a player to climatize to international football By my count our caps for our up and coming players are (bolded players are already experienced)Mcgree 24 Metcalfe 12 Bos 8 rowles 16souttar 27 Baccus 16 O'Niel 6 Burgess 4 atkinson 10 miller 6 yengi 3 tilio 7 silvera 3 gauci 2 circati 1 Robertson 2 Jones 4 need to use those older players to manage the transition and get as many of these upcoming players up to 20 caps by the next world cup. Goodwin, irvine and ryan might still be going great by the next world cup Some of those caps are incorrect: Metcalfe 19 Bos 12 Rowles 18 Baccus 17 O'Neill 13 Burgess 6 Atkinson 12 Yengi 4 Tilio 9 Silvera 5                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| NicCarBel 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    +x+xWill be interesting to see the draw now with the added group of 6 teams Quick feeling of how I feel the pots will play out now: POT 1 - Japan, Iran, Sth Korea POT 2 - Australia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar POT 3 - Iraq, UAE, Uzbekistan POT 4 - Oman, Jordan, Bahrain POT 5 - China, Syria, Palestine POT 6 - India, Kyrgyzstan, Vietnam Heavy middle east presence in general (except Pots 1 and 6), but watch Iran get them all, and then probably Kyrgyzstan as well. Knowing our luck, we'll get Japan. IMO, there's a conspiracy theory if the groups end up like this: 1: Japan, Australia, Uzbekistan, Jordan, Syria, Vietnam 2: Iran, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Palestine, Kyrgyzstan 3: South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman, China, India Would want: Iran, Australia, UAE, Oman, Palestine, Kyrgyzstan Bit hesitant to choose Oman and Palestine considering previous results but I'd hope with an improved team we can comfortably come top 2. But realistically we'll probably get the aforementioned toughest group Yeah, if I go by the group I want, would probably be something along the lines of: Iran, Australia, Not Bahrain, UAE, China, Anyone Remember as well that because of the weird new qualification system, 3rd and 4th in the group will go into a 'second chance' stage (2x groups of 3 with both group winners directly qualifying, and the runners up going into the usual playoff system)                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    March is a free ball in terms of who we can pick so want to see our best team picked but regardless this is how I feel our next full strength squad should look like. A squad of 26 considering last two tournaments have been squads of 26.
 Ryan
 Gauci
 Glover
 
 Souttar
 Rowles
 Circati
 Burgess
 Atkinson
 Strain
 Bos
 Farell
 
 Baccus
 Nisbet
 Robertson
 McGree
 Irvine
 Hrustic
 Volpato
 
 Yengi
 Stamatelopoulos
 Iredale
 Boyle
 Goodwin
 Irankunda
 Silvera
 Tilio
 
 Thomas, Jones, Deng, Behich, Miller, O'Neill, Metcalfe, Yazbek, Duke, Fornaroli out from Asian Cup.
 
 Stiff particularly on Metcalfe and O'Neill but don't think their performances particularly did enough considering the depth we have centrally. O'Neill potentially picked ahead of Nisbet after suspension but interested to see a change there.
 
 Considering how he finished the tournament also harsh on Behich, however is he gonna be at the next WC? Time to see Bos in full flight there. Likewise Duke. Whilst his performances weren't good, though I did think his hold up play vs Sth Korea was very good, we have so little depth up top. But a good opportunity to see some others in action.
 
 So keen to see Hrustic back in form. We really missed him. And how much I am desperate to see Volpato commit, Robertson return from injury and Irankunda given a shot off the bench.
 
 
 
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Would like elder to get back into the squad now he's back getting game time.  
 Elder, circati, hrustic (game time pending) and volpato all need to be brought in and glover might get in ahead of Lawrence considering he's getting good minutes in the championship.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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