Irankunda hit by shock Olyroos snub [Comments]


Irankunda hit by shock Olyroos snub [Comments]

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Lads let's all keep our heads there's always more to this story 
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Haven't read the articles, but my take from reading the first headline of this thread: he has a big move to Bayern coming up. Not selecting him for Olyroos will be every bit about not accidentally fucking him up for that.

Nothing to do with what country he wants to play for and who in Australia wants him to. Nothing.

For folks here who consider themselves a football crowd: how many U23 games do top line NT players play in their career? It's not as common as you think. Usually if you're that good, you don't play more than a hand full because you're already good enough for the real thing.

He'll learn just as much and probably more in his first month at Bayern than he will being in an Olyroos camp. Fuck I live close enough to Munich, I can get on over there and tell him Adelaide's a piss ant town. I did my 25 years in that shit hole...

Sucks for the Olyroos but then again, it's only the Olympics.
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bohemia - 4 Apr 2024 7:55 PM
Haven't read the articles, but my take from reading the first headline of this thread: he has a big move to Bayern coming up. Not selecting him for Olyroos will be every bit about not accidentally fucking him up for that.

Nothing to do with what country he wants to play for and who in Australia wants him to. Nothing.

For folks here who consider themselves a football crowd: how many U23 games do top line NT players play in their career? It's not as common as you think. Usually if you're that good, you don't play more than a hand full because you're already good enough for the real thing.

He'll learn just as much and probably more in his first month at Bayern than he will being in an Olyroos camp. Fuck I live close enough to Munich, I can get on over there and tell him Adelaide's a piss ant town. I did my 25 years in that shit hole...

Sucks for the Olyroos but then again, it's only the Olympics.

See your point but my main concern is that Arnold may not pick him for Socceroos anytime soon unless he was/is an Olyroo first- he always says that ‘the future of the Socceroos is the Olyroos’ 
Can see Arnold picking duds like Metcalfe over Irankunda just cos Metcalfe was an Olyroo 
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Barca4Life - 4 Apr 2024 11:27 AM
He should be there no question I just hope this doesn't bite us later on if they dont qualify.

Once in a lifetime experience playing in an Olympic Games, its also also obvious the coaches are risk adverse and needed changing after the World Cup as we got stacks of talent coming through and you need the coaches to reflect that and im not sure they are capable of building the new generation of players.

This is my concern at the moment. Arnie was perfect for the team we were in Qatar. I'm not sure he's the best fit for the team we could be at the next World Cup. 
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jas88 - 4 Apr 2024 2:52 PM
Barca4Life - 4 Apr 2024 12:29 PM

They are both generational talents.. same as Irankunda...Nestory might not be as good but he is the best talent from his generation.

I've watched quite a lot of Endrick and Lamine and man Nestory is definitely up there. Has intangibles that both of them don't have. Lamine is very good though. 
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Balin Trev - 4 Apr 2024 8:12 PM
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See your point but my main concern is that Arnold may not pick him for Socceroos anytime soon unless he was/is an Olyroo first- he always says that ‘the future of the Socceroos is the Olyroos’ 
Can see Arnold picking duds like Metcalfe over Irankunda just cos Metcalfe was an Olyroo 

Yet in volpato we see he is desperate to cap a player that hasn't played for the olyroos, doesn't want to play for the olyroos, hasn't played for the Socceroos and doesn't want to play for the Socceroos.

Missing a camp won't make a difference for irankunda. All parties involved were obviously aware and coordinating the whole thing before it ever became an article.

Irankunda is going to be a Socceroo. Patience lads
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Balin Trev - 4 Apr 2024 8:12 PM
bohemia - 4 Apr 2024 7:55 PM

See your point but my main concern is that Arnold may not pick him for Socceroos anytime soon unless he was/is an Olyroo first- he always says that ‘the future of the Socceroos is the Olyroos’ 
Can see Arnold picking duds like Metcalfe over Irankunda just cos Metcalfe was an Olyroo 

Yeah that was my irritation too Trev... repeatedly implies that Olyroos are the future Socceroos then seems to have chanegd his tune.

bohemia, I agree with your take also, just disappointing for the lad that he may miss out on an Olympics which would be a great developmental tournament for a young up and comer AND a hell of an experience for a young bloke. 
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bohemia - 4 Apr 2024 11:26 PM
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Yet in volpato we see he is desperate to cap a player that hasn't played for the olyroos, doesn't want to play for the olyroos, hasn't played for the Socceroos and doesn't want to play for the Socceroos.

Missing a camp won't make a difference for irankunda. All parties involved were obviously aware and coordinating the whole thing before it ever became an article.

Irankunda is going to be a Socceroo. Patience lads

Thats just Arnie's international scout/ancestry.com back-up plan :P
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bbouy - 4 Apr 2024 10:40 PM
jas88 - 4 Apr 2024 2:52 PM

I've watched quite a lot of Endrick and Lamine and man Nestory is definitely up there. Has intangibles that both of them don't have. Lamine is very good though. 

Loving your input on the young players on here, huge call that, but loving it.
I watched him live when Adelaide played Sydney & I had to keep reminding myself this kid was 17 years old, he was that good & that much better than anyone else on the park.

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bbouy - 4 Apr 2024 10:40 PM
jas88 - 4 Apr 2024 2:52 PM

I've watched quite a lot of Endrick and Lamine and man Nestory is definitely up there. Has intangibles that both of them don't have. Lamine is very good though. 

If he gets to play with Bayern next season and maybe become a semi regular then the chances of playing for the Socceroos sooner will only sharpen.

Because both Endrick and Yamal are playing for their club teams and are seen fit to play for their senior national teams from that and that makes a big difference, whilst Nestory is doing it in the a-league but will get tested in a much higher level so we will know sooner rather than later if he's ready to step into the Socceroos set up.

Endrick of course will move to Real Madrid once he turns 18 but the Brazilian league is quite strong and their top talents move into big clubs in Europe anyway.
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grazorblade - 4 Apr 2024 5:00 PM
Vidmar says that there are things he cant disclose. As a former youth worker i can imagine situations where i would think not selecting a player is putting them first

This is the key piece of info imo.
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bohemia - 4 Apr 2024 7:55 PM
Haven't read the articles, but my take from reading the first headline of this thread: he has a big move to Bayern coming up. Not selecting him for Olyroos will be every bit about not accidentally fucking him up for that.

Nothing to do with what country he wants to play for and who in Australia wants him to. Nothing.

For folks here who consider themselves a football crowd: how many U23 games do top line NT players play in their career? It's not as common as you think. Usually if you're that good, you don't play more than a hand full because you're already good enough for the real thing.

He'll learn just as much and probably more in his first month at Bayern than he will being in an Olyroos camp. Fuck I live close enough to Munich, I can get on over there and tell him Adelaide's a piss ant town. I did my 25 years in that shit hole...

Sucks for the Olyroos but then again, it's only the Olympics.

Where does this perception of him walking into bayern munich team? you really want him running around with the 18 year olds? not playing mens football?

Tuchel is gone at end of season... they are going after Xabi Alonso very hard.... he doesn't play with wingers... where's he going to play?

Watch him go over and fucking rot in youth football like the last 10 we sent over to germany.
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jas88 - 5 Apr 2024 12:47 PM
bohemia - 4 Apr 2024 7:55 PM

Where does this perception of him walking into bayern munich team? you really want him running around with the 18 year olds? not playing mens football?

Tuchel is gone at end of season... they are going after Xabi Alonso very hard.... he doesn't play with wingers... where's he going to play?

Watch him go over and fucking rot in youth football like the last 10 we sent over to germany.

Alonso is going to Real Madrid in 2025-26 season, wonder what he'd do with Mbappe & Vini Jr?
Alonso not going to Bayern.


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Bowden - 5 Apr 2024 12:33 PM
grazorblade - 4 Apr 2024 5:00 PM

This is the key piece of info imo.

Apparently he is very much involved as part of the decision.

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robbos - 5 Apr 2024 1:04 PM
jas88 - 5 Apr 2024 12:47 PM

Alonso is going to Real Madrid in 2025-26 season, wonder what he'd do with Mbappe & Vini Jr?
Alonso not going to Bayern.


Yeah if Xavi satys in Germany next season it will be with Leverkusen (so he stated) but as for Real the following year.... I dont think BOTH Mbappe and Vini will still be there it will be either one or the other, at least in my opinion....
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jas88 - 5 Apr 2024 12:47 PM
bohemia - 4 Apr 2024 7:55 PM

Where does this perception of him walking into bayern munich team? you really want him running around with the 18 year olds? not playing mens football?

Tuchel is gone at end of season... they are going after Xabi Alonso very hard.... he doesn't play with wingers... where's he going to play?

Watch him go over and fucking rot in youth football like the last 10 we sent over to germany.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they convert him into a wingback especially in Alonso’s 3-4-3 with both wingbacks are quite advanced with both Frimpong and Grimaldo doing quite well under him.

I don’t see him as one of the attacking midfielders either but let’s see if Alonso does move I read a rumour he might stay at Leverkusen and maybe Bayern might try to bring back Naggelsmen instead after the national team duty at the euros. 
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Wiesbaden get one back. 1:2 with 13 to go. That Croatian striker is like Bruno. Just gets goals and really can't be benched. 
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From a development/Gametime perspective I don't get this.... Irankunda hasn't been an automatic starter and the A-league doesn't offer a long season as it is.
Bundesliga reserve sides have seemed to be a graveyard for young Aussies.
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johnszasz - 6 Apr 2024 5:07 AM
Wiesbaden get one back. 1:2 with 13 to go. That Croatian striker is like Bruno. Just gets goals and really can't be benched. 

Wrong thread! 
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