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+x+x+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. If you think Promotion and relegation is the difference between this sport living and dying, then you are sadly mistaken I didn't say that. I just pointed out that the APL are not in a position of strength. JJ has said he wants a traditional pyramid in the long run. It may be sooner than we are all thinking. Ramon just being the razor every post of his goes. Correct as you quote PJ. Whatever happens happens, this is Oz football.
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+x+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. If you think Promotion and relegation is the difference between this sport living and dying, then you are sadly mistaken I didn't say that. I just pointed out that the APL are not in a position of strength. JJ has said he wants a traditional pyramid in the long run. It may be sooner than we are all thinking.
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+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. If you think Promotion and relegation is the difference between this sport living and dying, then you are sadly mistaken
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+x+x+x+x+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. Optus Sport and SBS maybe? No one watched it on SBS the last time they had it. Oh, and Basheer FFS. Who do you suggest? Nine …probably would want Stan as part of the deal.
Seven…they would bury it in the after midnight slot.
ABC….possibly but sports broadcasting is not their thing. Unless it’s free, no FTA will touch it. The MSM hate the code, outwith the men’s and women’s national teams in this country. Unfortunately this is most likely true. It will have to be a give away. With APL covering broadcast costs. My view is that unless Optus take it as a bundle, the A League will fold.
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I’m backing FA to go with Optus and SBS.
Optus would love to add Oz football to their package (see their ‘football belongs’ shorts from some time ago still there for free)
FTA content would be taken back either free or for a token fee on SBS.
Whether APL want to take the opportunity to ride on the back of a Football Australia ‘super deal’ will be up to them.
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+x+x+x+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. Optus Sport and SBS maybe? No one watched it on SBS the last time they had it. Oh, and Basheer FFS. Who do you suggest? Nine …probably would want Stan as part of the deal.
Seven…they would bury it in the after midnight slot.
ABC….possibly but sports broadcasting is not their thing. Unless it’s free, no FTA will touch it. The MSM hate the code, outwith the men’s and women’s national teams in this country.
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+x+xAL might have to cut its losses and sell broadcast rights for all games to FTA. AL started on foxtel and never really gained enough viewers and interest- compared to other sports- cos foxtel was always fucking expensive. If AL started on FTA it may have become a lot bigger by now. Start again maybe FTA for interstate games? Yep interstate games broadcast live
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+xAL might have to cut its losses and sell broadcast rights for all games to FTA. AL started on foxtel and never really gained enough viewers and interest- compared to other sports- cos foxtel was always fucking expensive. If AL started on FTA it may have become a lot bigger by now. Start again maybe FTA for interstate games?
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AL might have to cut its losses and sell broadcast rights for all games to FTA. AL started on foxtel and never really gained enough viewers and interest- compared to other sports- cos foxtel was always fucking expensive. If AL started on FTA it may have become a lot bigger by now. Start again maybe
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+x+x+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. Optus Sport and SBS maybe? No one watched it on SBS the last time they had it. Oh, and Basheer FFS. Who do you suggest? Nine …probably would want Stan as part of the deal.
Seven…they would bury it in the after midnight slot.
ABC….possibly but sports broadcasting is not their thing.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league? I know the answer (or at least I think I do), it is Media. You absolutely need personalities at the top end of the game with strong business and media connections. If not, you will become irrelevant to the mainstream market and the professional game suffers and takes generations to recover. Football had its golden ticket in the Lowy family. A family with (in my opinion) a genuine love for the game, deep pockets and, most importantly, strong business, political and media connections. It is not surprising what the A-League achieved in that time as a result. We now have a bunch of, in Australian business terms at least, a bunch of executives with little or no influence. Accordingly, the game has fallen off the cliff. Sounds about right. They Lowy family had deep pockets to grow the sport in this Nation. They had strong business, political and business conections. Take that away and look what the a-league is now. Its a poxy league run by unemployed dole bludgers and bums. lol
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+x+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. Optus Sport and SBS maybe? No one watched it on SBS the last time they had it. Oh, and Basheer FFS.
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imagine all this heartache and mess being a blessing in disguise, it sure is watch this space.
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+xWith the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like. Optus Sport and SBS maybe?
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With the APL crying poor, Paramount having their own problems and FA looking at a new broadcast deal from 2025 including NTs, Australia Cup and NST you would think that FA may be interested in combining it all including the APLs into one package with both a FTA and streaming component. The APL may need to be open to P& R earlier than they would like.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination. Oh wow, thats even better lol.... So JJ can come along at anytime and tell the new owners, NOPE you cant use "Newcastle United" or "Sydney FC" in the Aleague anymore we are setting up new clubs in the championship? Hahahaha thats gold. Maybe, it definitely seems to be a bit of an odd arrangement. I'm assuming there would be some sort of trademark licensing agreement in place, but it's hard to say whether it is between FA and APL or FA and the individual clubs or both. On the surface, it definitely seems as though any A-League club could join the Championship while continuing to use their name and colours. FA still own the IP Part of the unbundling was allowing each franchise exclusive rights to use their IP in the way they want (rather than centrally controlled by the FA in the past) Gold Coast United use the FA owned name by permission
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. Is it possible they can have a league the second division npl all on YouTube? Feel like that would be something a subscription that gives you heaps of football Stephen Lowey predicted this would happen , taking the money admin away from the people that understand money letting the clubs have free rein and Silver lakes $130mil blown mostly on an app that nobody could find . shambles Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment. Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp. The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising. We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic. And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here. Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now. Yep the APL have done a bang up job. Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it. The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL But yet the standard/quality of football has increased So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game? Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game? Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league? I know the answer (or at least I think I do), it is Media. You absolutely need personalities at the top end of the game with strong business and media connections. If not, you will become irrelevant to the mainstream market and the professional game suffers and takes generations to recover. Football had its golden ticket in the Lowy family. A family with (in my opinion) a genuine love for the game, deep pockets and, most importantly, strong business, political and media connections. It is not surprising what the A-League achieved in that time as a result. We now have a bunch of, in Australian business terms at least, a bunch of executives with little or no influence. Accordingly, the game has fallen off the cliff. song song song - reminds of a radio sketch whilst driving around long ago in Syd. Mate, in bold The Lowy fam had genuine luv to line their deep pockets no diff to all bunchs of white collar excutives. Their deep pockets only cared for their gain and they didn't read the room a shop front needs content and support from beneath whereas a sport such as FOOTBALL needs its poor grass roots foundations the middle to top having connections so as the whole system works together. It was falling off the cliff pre young Steve he just was the fam sacrificial lamb replaced by their customers - how ironic, they both deserve each other at the bottom of the cliff but the game will and has carried on, look below it survived.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination. Oh wow, thats even better lol.... So JJ can come along at anytime and tell the new owners, NOPE you cant use "Newcastle United" or "Sydney FC" in the Aleague anymore we are setting up new clubs in the championship? Hahahaha thats gold. Maybe, it definitely seems to be a bit of an odd arrangement. I'm assuming there would be some sort of trademark licensing agreement in place, but it's hard to say whether it is between FA and APL or FA and the individual clubs or both. On the surface, it definitely seems as though any A-League club could join the Championship while continuing to use their name and colours.
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+x+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. But the FFA was holding this sport back? LoL But those bloody ethnics were the problem LoL But it's the AFL and NRL screwing us over LoL But the cricket and NBL are sabotaging us lol Honestly I've never heard that last one. Must have been a niche group withat argument. Yeah BIG BASH is the reason Channel 10 is trying to kill the Aleague. To many crossover fans in the crucial 35-55 year old mum demographic. hahahahah
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination. Oh wow, thats even better lol.... So JJ can come along at anytime and tell the new owners, NOPE you cant use "Newcastle United" or "Sydney FC" in the Aleague anymore we are setting up new clubs in the championship? Hahahaha thats gold.
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+x+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. But the FFA was holding this sport back? LoL But those bloody ethnics were the problem LoL But it's the AFL and NRL screwing us over LoL But the cricket and NBL are sabotaging us lol Honestly I've never heard that last one. Must have been a niche group withat argument.
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+x+xThey'll need to look at getting out of that deal early. I read something on here that may happen this year? Or am I misremembering. That's unsustainable for another 5-years. All clubs would need to re-structure. They should be carefull what they wish for mate, who else is going to pay to broadcast soccer in Australia? At least enough to distribute 12 million to franchises anyway? Theyll end up having to live of whatever handouts the FA can afford... Lets hope they dont take anything away from the championship budgets. But the FFA was holding this sport back? LoL But those bloody ethnics were the problem LoL But it's the AFL and NRL screwing us over LoL But the cricket and NBL are sabotaging us lol
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. That doesn't appear to be correct. According to the ipaustralia trademark website, Football Australia Limited still owns the trademarks to all of the A-League club brands/logos. APL doesn't even own the trademark to their new 'A-League' A logo as it's still under examination.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding. I think there would be a solid legal argument that the franchiser failed to provide the financial support that would have been a part of the franchise contract..
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+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. They didn't enter an EOI so aren't eligible
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+x+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship. Would be great but they wouldnt be able to retain their names, their colours, logos, anything ... all owned by the APL... You cant just take your McDonalds restaurant offline from the head office and start serving pizza and sushi (no matter how many millions you paid for it) ... they will sue you for using their branding.
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+x+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P That should be enough time for those clubs that want to bale out of the a league to be integrated into the championship.
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+x+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;) Season doesnt end until September finals mate :) Only 6ish month of offseason :P
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+x+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season Off season will be an extra 9 months until the start of the Championship ;)
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+xCan't See Paramount carrying on. Long off season ahead If there's an off season
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