A-Leagues financial crisis: Club funding slashed as TV deal tanks


A-Leagues financial crisis: Club funding slashed as TV deal tanks

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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 6:32 PM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:58 PM

Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league?

I know the answer (or at least I think I do), it is Media. You absolutely need personalities at the top end of the game with strong business and media connections. If not, you will become irrelevant to the mainstream market and the professional game suffers and takes generations to recover.

Football had its golden ticket in the Lowy family. A family with (in my opinion) a genuine love for the game, deep pockets and, most importantly, strong business, political and media connections. It is not surprising what the A-League achieved in that time as a result. We now have a bunch of, in Australian business terms at least, a bunch of executives with little or no influence. Accordingly, the game has fallen off the cliff. 
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 9 May 2024 10:00 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 9 May 2024 9:28 AM

That wasn't his point though, was it ?
Funny that you are quoting Austadiums for crowds, instead of Wookie ! I also quoted them, but you mocked it.


Fair point, it was just the quickest set of number at hand... Also more so arguing the point that COVID and cost of living are excuses for poor crowds here in Australia, not a direct response to you... my bad. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 9 May 2024 9:28 AM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 8 May 2024 9:43 PM

Why dont you ask how many leagues IN AUSTRALIA are averaging more than 30k a game?

https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/afl/crowds#google_vignette AFl at 39K this eyar

even crummy old NRL is north of 20K

https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/nrl/crowds

We are a sport mad country but apparently COVID and cost of living only hit Aleague audiences?

That wasn't his point though, was it ?
Funny that you are quoting Austadiums for crowds, instead of Wookie ! I also quoted them, but you mocked it.


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Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:49 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 8 May 2024 10:16 AM

From 2013-17 the whole sport package was 40 million a year. So 10 A-league sides means  4 million per club. Hell even 3 million for each was enough.  That left 10 million left to hold on to. If a struggling club like central coast or Newcastle needed 1 or 2 million to survive, at least the cash was there.

Unlike the previous tv deal when from 2016-13 it was like 115-120 million over 7 years

Most of the funding and focus was on those 10 A-league clubs. You know why? Because they were the main reasons and bulk of the value of the sports package.

When the A-league renewed for 2017-8 season onwards, it reached to 60 million a year for 6 years. Thats 6 million per club or 5 million if we expanded to 12 sides.

I am curious how you think the FA or APL will get this sport out of this poo heaps.

No one, not even Foxtel will want the A-league for even 20-30 million a season for 6 or 7 games a round.

Hell not even channel 7 would want it or sbs or ABC would want it if it was for free 


Sorry I was talking about football in Australia, not the fiances of 10 foreign owned franchises.... The Football federation of a country (any country) is mandated to administer the sport and make sure funding exists for national team setups, coaching, ALL of the country's various league administrations and to ensure we comply with FIFA mandates around participation, inclusion and development... Two totally different things...



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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 8 May 2024 9:43 PM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:58 PM

How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ?

Why dont you ask how many leagues IN AUSTRALIA are averaging more than 30k a game?

https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/afl/crowds#google_vignette AFl at 39K this eyar

even crummy old NRL is north of 20K

https://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp/nrl/crowds

We are a sport mad country but apparently COVID and cost of living only hit Aleague audiences?
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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 6:32 PM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:58 PM

Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league?

again its excuses. 1st off it was the Effnicks.

Then it was the AFL and NRL and even the NBL were sabotaging us lol

Now its covid, the cost of living crisis. The Centrelink Socceroos . 

Everyone on here said free to air was supposed to be the saviour. We got A-league games on SBS , then on ABC , now on channel 10. 

See what the APL should of done with that 40 millon a year from Paramount was actually spend money to Advertise this product.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 8 May 2024 9:43 PM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:58 PM

How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ?

I dont know and I dont care.

The point is the backbone of most Sporting leagues in this current situation is tv rights money.

Again at one point in time, We had a tv deal back in 2017 or 2018 that was worth 346 million over 6 seasons. Thats at least 50-55 million a year. That was good money for the A-league and Socceroos package.

and people on here still complained about it because its not fair. It should be as much as the AFL or NRL tv money lol.

We had a good deal money wise when Foxtel paid money each year for the A-league rights from 2005-21. 

We were better off being looked after by foxtel when they had the EPL rights.



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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 8 May 2024 9:43 PM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:58 PM

How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ?

indeed

even in the post covid slump our league is way above average for its wage bill

at the moment we need 16k averages to break even on a wage budget below league 1. This isn't viable as it would mean we are one of the most attended leagues in the world and one of the weakest divisions in the first world. We need to find a way to be profitable with 8k attendance and build by reinvesting profits
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Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:58 PM
Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 8:34 AM

So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game?

Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game?

How many leagues around the world are averaging 30000 a game ?
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Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 5:58 PM
Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 8:34 AM

So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game?

Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game?

Good questions that I don’t know answers to. AL crowds/tv subscribers haven’t been the same since covid hit. Now there’s a cost of living crisis. There might be more tv viewers if AL was broadcast by Optus cos they also show EPL - people that pay for Optus for EPL are less likely to pay for Paramount as well just to watch a lesser league?
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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 8:34 AM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 6:11 AM

But yet the standard/quality of football has increased 

So.... Why isn't the average game getting 20-30,000 a game?

Why isn't there an average 500,000 people watching an average game?
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someguyjc - 8 May 2024 9:41 AM

Wonder why the franchise owners didn't sign off on it ?

Perhaps they first asked for some clarification as to where all the fucking money has gone

Franchise owner owners wanted their money as they are greedy clowns 

They wanted the FFA to give up control thinking the owners could do better.

They wanted their "independence" too.

Well look what happened. 

So any network video is stupid enough to pay 20 or 30 or 40 million a year for this league?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 May 2024 10:16 AM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 6:11 AM

Yes the Lowys and FFA were poorly running the sport here... most of the funding and focus was on 10 Australian clubs and the other thousand plus clubs were being neglected grossly... Now the FA can do what it is supposed to do, look after the actual sport for a change.


From 2013-17 the whole sport package was 40 million a year. So 10 A-league sides means  4 million per club. Hell even 3 million for each was enough.  That left 10 million left to hold on to. If a struggling club like central coast or Newcastle needed 1 or 2 million to survive, at least the cash was there.

Unlike the previous tv deal when from 2016-13 it was like 115-120 million over 7 years

Most of the funding and focus was on those 10 A-league clubs. You know why? Because they were the main reasons and bulk of the value of the sports package.

When the A-league renewed for 2017-8 season onwards, it reached to 60 million a year for 6 years. Thats 6 million per club or 5 million if we expanded to 12 sides.

I am curious how you think the FA or APL will get this sport out of this poo heaps.

No one, not even Foxtel will want the A-league for even 20-30 million a season for 6 or 7 games a round.

Hell not even channel 7 would want it or sbs or ABC would want it if it was for free 


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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 8:34 AM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 6:11 AM

But yet the standard/quality of football has increased 

That's nice to hear. So does that translates to money or more viewers?
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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 8:34 AM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 6:11 AM

But yet the standard/quality of football has increased 

In who's estimation, yours? 
You and others still don't get it. 80% of the defenders have no idea how and where to position themselves and that's why young players are scoring goals. Move forward and those same players can't get game times o/s because they can't score against good defenders.
I like everyone on here have high hopes for Irankunda and I really hope he can buck the trend of the last decade.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 May 2024 4:50 PM
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Hey Mid,

Im sorry but it really isnt difficult to know where to begin.

 We have to, finally, take the plunge and decide on Step #1 - What do we ALL want football to BE in Australia. Not what the APL wants, not what the foreign investors want, not what old bitter NSL die hards like me want, not what AFL/NRL footy mums want, not what politicians want ... what we ALL want. its a simple choice #A or choice #B question and then we need to figure out the rest of it (ie how to get there).

#A a financially succcesful "product" that can be used as vehicle to make a return on investment
OR
#B a football ecosystem that encourage meritocracy and ambition from every single one of its participants from amateur to fully professional, geared towards creating a professional pathway and a playing pool of talent that can go on to represent our nation with success and foster a love of, not only the game here but also, a healthy lifestyle for our future generations. 

It’s a no brainer really but the difficulty as always is getting everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.
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grazorblade - 8 May 2024 4:23 PM
Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 1:45 PM

8k crowds is good for our wages globally and 12k that we used to have is insane

Need to find a way to have profitable match days. If we do that then wages can increse which should bump crowds up etc

I still dont understand the insistence of higher wages means better attendance??? Havent you all seen what is happening in Saudi Arabia? 

Do you not think that league crowds can be bumped up to 15-20k averages if the actual clubs marketed themselves to their target demographic a bit better and made their customers feel like members and a tribe rather than an income stream???  FFS its not rocket science.. Who cares how dire the football on the park is as long as your lads are on the pitch representing you?... Sheesh look at African and Eastern European leagues with wages no higher than the oranges they get at 1/2 time.... 
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Midfielder - 8 May 2024 2:31 PM
Its difficult to know were to begin..... 

There is not a single thing that can be done to fix our position.

IMO there are maybe 5 or 6 major things and hundreds of little things, and all need to be done together.

Issue is there are so many things to fix, agreeing on a pathway out of the mess in our current environment is next to impossible.... like arseholes everyone has an opinion on how to fix things....


Hey Mid,

Im sorry but it really isnt difficult to know where to begin.

 We have to, finally, take the plunge and decide on Step #1 - What do we ALL want football to BE in Australia. Not what the APL wants, not what the foreign investors want, not what old bitter NSL die hards like me want, not what AFL/NRL footy mums want, not what politicians want ... what we ALL want. its a simple choice #A or choice #B question and then we need to figure out the rest of it (ie how to get there).

#A a financially succcesful "product" that can be used as vehicle to make a return on investment
OR
#B a football ecosystem that encourage meritocracy and ambition from every single one of its participants from amateur to fully professional, geared towards creating a professional pathway and a playing pool of talent that can go on to represent our nation with success and foster a love of, not only the game here but also, a healthy lifestyle for our future generations. 
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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 1:45 PM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 12:24 PM

Yep but in the past people have said that the financial support will improve when the product improves. 
Football in AL has improved but still no money 

8k crowds is good for our wages globally and 12k that we used to have is insane

Need to find a way to have profitable match days. If we do that then wages can increse which should bump crowds up etc
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Its difficult to know were to begin..... 

There is not a single thing that can be done to fix our position.

IMO there are maybe 5 or 6 major things and hundreds of little things, and all need to be done together.

Issue is there are so many things to fix, agreeing on a pathway out of the mess in our current environment is next to impossible.... like arseholes everyone has an opinion on how to fix things....



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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 1:45 PM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 12:24 PM

Yep but in the past people have said that the financial support will improve when the product improves. 
Football in AL has improved but still no money 

I'm not so sure about that. Not saying it's worse, more that it's pretty much stayed the same as it has been for a decade or so. Only difference in the last couple of seasons is we are seeing more young blokes get more minutes. This is a direct result of the cap being reduced.
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tsf - 7 May 2024 9:18 AM
that k unt... in saudi arabia or wherever he is should be brought back...weasle 

these top end corporates always get away with destroying something and moving on to next ay day while everyone else suffers 

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Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 12:24 PM
Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 8:34 AM

It ain't squat if there's no A-league in 2024-25 right?

We need money in this A-league league or will this A-league league be funded by dole bludgers and Centrelink?

Carn the Centrelink Socceroos! LoL 

Yep but in the past people have said that the financial support will improve when the product improves. 
Football in AL has improved but still no money 

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Balin Trev - 8 May 2024 8:34 AM
Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 6:11 AM

But yet the standard/quality of football has increased 

It ain't squat if there's no A-league in 2024-25 right?

We need money in this A-league league or will this A-league league be funded by dole bludgers and Centrelink?

Carn the Centrelink Socceroos! LoL 
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someguyjc - 8 May 2024 9:41 AM
Source: https://twitter.com/simonhill1894/status/1787752941711143413?t=-1YoO9Zive1cWlbf0w-n3Q&s=19
APL statement:
“As part of our ongoing, planned strategic and commercial review, the APL Board met to review a number of our financial metrics and key leagues issues. Club Grants were one area under discussion today. The Board did not reach a resolution in its meeting. As there has been no agreement on this item, any Club Grant values reported are purely speculative. The APL Board will issue a statement when it reaches a resolution on this matter."

Wonder why the franchise owners didn't sign off on it ?

Perhaps they first asked for some clarification as to where all the fucking money has gone
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Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 6:11 AM
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Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp.

The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising.

We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. 

The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic.

And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here.

Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now.

Yep the APL have done a bang up job.

Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it.

The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL 


Yes the Lowys and FFA were poorly running the sport here... most of the funding and focus was on 10 Australian clubs and the other thousand plus clubs were being neglected grossly... Now the FA can do what it is supposed to do, look after the actual sport for a change.


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someguyjc - 8 May 2024 9:41 AM
Source: https://twitter.com/simonhill1894/status/1787752941711143413?t=-1YoO9Zive1cWlbf0w-n3Q&s=19
APL statement:
“As part of our ongoing, planned strategic and commercial review, the APL Board met to review a number of our financial metrics and key leagues issues. Club Grants were one area under discussion today. The Board did not reach a resolution in its meeting. As there has been no agreement on this item, any Club Grant values reported are purely speculative. The APL Board will issue a statement when it reaches a resolution on this matter."

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APL statement:
“As part of our ongoing, planned strategic and commercial review, the APL Board met to review a number of our financial metrics and key leagues issues. Club Grants were one area under discussion today. The Board did not reach a resolution in its meeting. As there has been no agreement on this item, any Club Grant values reported are purely speculative. The APL Board will issue a statement when it reaches a resolution on this matter."

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Razor Ramon - 8 May 2024 6:11 AM
bohemia - 7 May 2024 5:30 PM
Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp.

The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising.

We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. 

The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic.

And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here.

Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now.

Yep the APL have done a bang up job.

Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it.

The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL 


But yet the standard/quality of football has increased 
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bohemia - 7 May 2024 5:30 PM
notarobot - 7 May 2024 11:10 AM

Lowy didn't predict shit. He didn't read the room and couldn't figure out everyone fucking hated him. On his way out while the door was hitting his arse, he fired off a "you'll be sorry" like any other mope who just got dumped. People make it out to be some Nostradamus moment.
Well the A-league in a good period was 2013-17 when western Sydney Wanderers just entered the comp.

The A-league and Socceroos package was worth 40 million a year, but it was actually 37 million a year as 3 million a year was spent on advertising.

We also had one free to air game on Friday night too. 

The next tv deal was around 50-60 million a year for like 6 years but that was cut off during the pandemic.

And yet the Lowys and the FFA were poorly running the sport here.

Lookin' at the situation now.... That 2013-17 period was like paradise compared to the current situation now.

Yep the APL have done a bang up job.

Those A-league club owners wanted freedom from the FFA. Well you got it.

The A-league has grown significantly.... Into a joke LoL 


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