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+x+x+x+x+x+xRobbos they had goes at Ange pretty much like a lot of us. Stop playing that game style whilst we didn’t have the cattle capable through important games. They admire good football like the lot of us we all have moved on from hoofball. The rest as you say what’s change at the top - yep not much but different faces. Id like to put my hand up and point out i didnt have a go at ange Both ange and arnie were outstanding in the a league amd both had a remarkable achievement with a modest squad. In anges case we won the asian cup on home soil. In arnies case got us out of the group and finished 11th There are problems in australian football, but the quality of national team coaching isnt one of them Graz didn't take any of your posts re Ange so nothing to worry about mate. Posts since I totally agree with re performances - its the passed. As for the quality of NT - yer nah I'm not that impressed nor ahead till proven - long way to go despite so much changed re development - we will always have some/couple of standouts with hope like Irakunda for eg, he's just one like many before, prove is in the pudding. tsf is on the page as is a few others incl me. What would impress u? We have zero players in the big 5 before 2022 and 2015 iirc (maybe we had 1 in 2015) so i think those were pretty decent results Of course i want more players in the big 5 so that better results are expected. Right now, we punch way about our weight but our weight is very light. So thats a credit to our coaching and an indictment on our pathways Grazer, it no matter what friggin league anyone is in to me I just wish to see a cohesive/blended flowing team playing "football", not hold stations in our last third or half majority of a game, reset reset, and jag counters. Sure under current circumstances thats our game but its choking/squeezing your butt cheeks viewing. Punch above our weight is of the past and recently how we got over the line in Qatar actually astounded me for it wasn't from over stimulating play but counter punch and lots of good fortune, the golden nugget Dukes arsed reflex flicked reaction surprisingly flys into goal type of stuff. Sure luck happens for every single team but we lucked alot. Our recent AC campaign says where we are plain and simple. What would impress me ? seeing a early 20 something show the goods like Goodwin in his 30's, not just 1 gimme 2 3 wow what a bonus, thats what will impress me after all this bloody time since my youth going way back before many here. To see players have alot better touch and create time with the ball more, be a yard faster, indictment of our pathways ? phhhf like I said the AC showed us up - I'm told who cares about the olympic results of the next pathway wonder lads, OK - seems excuse's keep being applied and its early days. Seriously no wonder - I watch robbos minnow portugal produce players left right centre, LFC academy players would chew our NT for brekky I expect and our olyroos in their sleep !. Some will say thats not a fair comparo and sure it isn't BUT that the bloody BAR ! Whilst we keep grovelling over the mighty APL, Lowy this god that god bringing the $$$'s in and Pro football and the wonderous league we have producing some new coming of age wonders, we have stagmented whilst other Asian minnows have stepped up and good for them, I am friggin jealous and angry ! If it doesnt matter what leagues teams play in why dont america samoa dominate world football? The club elo of our players is way below what u would expect given our national team elo or fifa ranking. Sire we had good luck against denmark but we had bad luck against south korea. It evens out If we want to be better we need better players rather than blaming a coach for not getting a bunch of 2nd div players to play world class. The current steps to getting better better players are 1) a league academies introduced a few years ago 2) an nst and perhaps a league expansion to expand pro pathways 3) 3 fa academies being introduced Hope it all helps. I guess we will see! Graz, I know it does matter where our players do end up playing for obviously it shows they can do it to play in top leagues, my I don't care was purley based on frustration for each decade is "we need to do this first, its building it will come"..... 20yrs, some AL academies have been going for sometime and some took along time to get ramped up and operating from memory. Fozzi article in 2014 https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/aleague-academies-a-great-step-forward-for-australian-football-20140322-hvljt.htmlCorrect re NST, whilst we had been in this AL "cloud" "barrier" for 20yrs nothing ever could be done to open the doors below, so now this again will take time to develop and prove itself its sustainable, fingers crossed a hell of alot of people get behind it ! So much time lost. FA academies ie Merrick - again another program held back for how long finally see something commence. Thank christ for FA/JJ, I hope this guy keeps on going and has a iron chest with all the barriers we keep having in this football melting pot outpost.
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+x+xJust read the Socceroos/matildas piece now. Some interesting points: The Olyroos had little prep going into the first game (no lead up games going into the first game) which is why they looked flat and consverative against Jordan but the panel questioned why Irankunda wasnt selected The young Socceroos whom are a very talent cohort that it got Zidane to be impressed when they played in Spain against France which they won, although haven't played an competitive game since that Spain tournament due to cost measuring into scouting, but when they have played they have impressed but they got games coming up in June against South America and Asian teams. Merrick will launch FA Academies specifically targeting 13-16 year olds assuming its to follow a model similar to Clairefontaine where they train for that academy but play for their clubs in the weekend, I guess we will find out about the true details soon and how it will work with a-league and NPL academies. Merrick also has changed the coaching courses and wants all Australian teams to play a proactive, attacking style of football similar to Ange although im not sure what the specifics of it in a tactical and technical standpoint will be and therefore how it will look like. FA want the next few years to be youth development focused with a big focus on transfer fees. Really promising especially the federation academies and change of coaching direction, thanks, will watch it tonight :) The whole series has been quite good, its good there is media types still out there talking about the game's issues but we need alot more of it. Channel 10/Paramount have not done any of this or not enough of it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRobbos they had goes at Ange pretty much like a lot of us. Stop playing that game style whilst we didn’t have the cattle capable through important games. They admire good football like the lot of us we all have moved on from hoofball. The rest as you say what’s change at the top - yep not much but different faces. Id like to put my hand up and point out i didnt have a go at ange Both ange and arnie were outstanding in the a league amd both had a remarkable achievement with a modest squad. In anges case we won the asian cup on home soil. In arnies case got us out of the group and finished 11th There are problems in australian football, but the quality of national team coaching isnt one of them Graz didn't take any of your posts re Ange so nothing to worry about mate. Posts since I totally agree with re performances - its the passed. As for the quality of NT - yer nah I'm not that impressed nor ahead till proven - long way to go despite so much changed re development - we will always have some/couple of standouts with hope like Irakunda for eg, he's just one like many before, prove is in the pudding. tsf is on the page as is a few others incl me. What would impress u? We have zero players in the big 5 before 2022 and 2015 iirc (maybe we had 1 in 2015) so i think those were pretty decent results Of course i want more players in the big 5 so that better results are expected. Right now, we punch way about our weight but our weight is very light. So thats a credit to our coaching and an indictment on our pathways Grazer, it no matter what friggin league anyone is in to me I just wish to see a cohesive/blended flowing team playing "football", not hold stations in our last third or half majority of a game, reset reset, and jag counters. Sure under current circumstances thats our game but its choking/squeezing your butt cheeks viewing. Punch above our weight is of the past and recently how we got over the line in Qatar actually astounded me for it wasn't from over stimulating play but counter punch and lots of good fortune, the golden nugget Dukes arsed reflex flicked reaction surprisingly flys into goal type of stuff. Sure luck happens for every single team but we lucked alot. Our recent AC campaign says where we are plain and simple. What would impress me ? seeing a early 20 something show the goods like Goodwin in his 30's, not just 1 gimme 2 3 wow what a bonus, thats what will impress me after all this bloody time since my youth going way back before many here. To see players have alot better touch and create time with the ball more, be a yard faster, indictment of our pathways ? phhhf like I said the AC showed us up - I'm told who cares about the olympic results of the next pathway wonder lads, OK - seems excuse's keep being applied and its early days. Seriously no wonder - I watch robbos minnow portugal produce players left right centre, LFC academy players would chew our NT for brekky I expect and our olyroos in their sleep !. Some will say thats not a fair comparo and sure it isn't BUT that the bloody BAR ! Whilst we keep grovelling over the mighty APL, Lowy this god that god bringing the $$$'s in and Pro football and the wonderous league we have producing some new coming of age wonders, we have stagmented whilst other Asian minnows have stepped up and good for them, I am friggin jealous and angry ! If it doesnt matter what leagues teams play in why dont america samoa dominate world football? The club elo of our players is way below what u would expect given our national team elo or fifa ranking. Sire we had good luck against denmark but we had bad luck against south korea. It evens out If we want to be better we need better players rather than blaming a coach for not getting a bunch of 2nd div players to play world class. The current steps to getting better better players are 1) a league academies introduced a few years ago 2) an nst and perhaps a league expansion to expand pro pathways 3) 3 fa academies being introduced Hope it all helps. I guess we will see! Graz, I know it does matter where our players do end up playing for obviously it shows they can do it to play in top leagues, my I don't care was purley based on frustration for each decade is "we need to do this first, its building it will come"..... 20yrs, some AL academies have been going for sometime and some took along time to get ramped up and operating from memory. Fozzi article in 2014 https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/aleague-academies-a-great-step-forward-for-australian-football-20140322-hvljt.htmlCorrect re NST, whilst we had been in this AL "cloud" "barrier" for 20yrs nothing ever could be done to open the doors below, so now this again will take time to develop and prove itself its sustainable, fingers crossed a hell of alot of people get behind it ! So much time lost. FA academies ie Merrick - again another program held back for how long finally see something commence. Thank christ for FA/JJ, I hope this guy keeps on going and has a iron chest with all the barriers we keep having in this football melting pot outpost. Imagine what happens if the crawford report was followed and the fa split from the beginning Nsl clubs probably made into an nst by 2008. We still have a missing generation due to the debarcle of the channel 7 deal killing the nsl and the challenges of football getting more technical and global. But we probably catch up sooner Anyway iffs and buts
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yep its refreshing and annoying for alot is going over old ground/probs of the past not just recent APL but at least its getting some airplay.
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+x+x+x+x+xRobbos they had goes at Ange pretty much like a lot of us. Stop playing that game style whilst we didn’t have the cattle capable through important games. They admire good football like the lot of us we all have moved on from hoofball. The rest as you say what’s change at the top - yep not much but different faces. Id like to put my hand up and point out i didnt have a go at ange Both ange and arnie were outstanding in the a league amd both had a remarkable achievement with a modest squad. In anges case we won the asian cup on home soil. In arnies case got us out of the group and finished 11th There are problems in australian football, but the quality of national team coaching isnt one of them Ummm I feel like we have already forgotten the Olyroos? The Olympics were important when we never qualified for the World cup. Now who really cares, couldn't tell who won gold in Tokyo. Sure, not many people could tell you who finished 11th in Qatar either mate.... Yeah not many people can say they were in World cup sites all around the country watching the Socceroos at 4-6am & seeing Leckie score against Denmark & the the Socceroos taking it up to the Argies. Yeah, everyone saying geez I wished we qualified for Olympics.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xRobbos they had goes at Ange pretty much like a lot of us. Stop playing that game style whilst we didn’t have the cattle capable through important games. They admire good football like the lot of us we all have moved on from hoofball. The rest as you say what’s change at the top - yep not much but different faces. Id like to put my hand up and point out i didnt have a go at ange Both ange and arnie were outstanding in the a league amd both had a remarkable achievement with a modest squad. In anges case we won the asian cup on home soil. In arnies case got us out of the group and finished 11th There are problems in australian football, but the quality of national team coaching isnt one of them Ummm I feel like we have already forgotten the Olyroos? The Olympics were important when we never qualified for the World cup. Now who really cares, couldn't tell who won gold in Tokyo. Sure, not many people could tell you who finished 11th in Qatar either mate.... Yeah not many people can say they were in World cup sites all around the country watching the Socceroos at 4-6am & seeing Leckie score against Denmark & the the Socceroos taking it up to the Argies. Yeah, everyone saying geez I wished we qualified for Olympics. I mean you are both right Finishing 11th was fantastic and a brilliant world cup missing out on the olympics hurts a lot and would have been a great opportunity
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRobbos they had goes at Ange pretty much like a lot of us. Stop playing that game style whilst we didn’t have the cattle capable through important games. They admire good football like the lot of us we all have moved on from hoofball. The rest as you say what’s change at the top - yep not much but different faces. Id like to put my hand up and point out i didnt have a go at ange Both ange and arnie were outstanding in the a league amd both had a remarkable achievement with a modest squad. In anges case we won the asian cup on home soil. In arnies case got us out of the group and finished 11th There are problems in australian football, but the quality of national team coaching isnt one of them Ummm I feel like we have already forgotten the Olyroos? The Olympics were important when we never qualified for the World cup. Now who really cares, couldn't tell who won gold in Tokyo. Sure, not many people could tell you who finished 11th in Qatar either mate.... Yeah not many people can say they were in World cup sites all around the country watching the Socceroos at 4-6am & seeing Leckie score against Denmark & the the Socceroos taking it up to the Argies. Yeah, everyone saying geez I wished we qualified for Olympics. I mean you are both right Finishing 11th was fantastic and a brilliant world cup missing out on the olympics hurts a lot and would have been a great opportunity Of course it's sad we missed out on the Olympics, but that is life, in sport there is no given, Poor Mono is just looking at different ways to attack football in this country. Football is changing; An Egyptian is one of the best players I've seen in the EPL. Morocco qualified for the last WC semis. Italy has missed the last 2 WCs Japan topped a group in the world cup ahead of Japan & Germany. A Sth Korean is better than any Italian player at present Australia beat Denmark. Georgia qualified for Euros for first time Uzbekistan qualified for the Olympics for the first time.
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+xyep its refreshing and annoying for alot is going over old ground/probs of the past not just recent APL but at least its getting some airplay. The problem is & always has been the administration of football in this country, too many agendas. The APL admin has failed & failed miserably. I'm all for change, real change not going back to the past. I'm happy for airplay, but if the speakers are Robbie Slater, Bozza & Foxtel, well already we going down the wrong track.
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+x+xyep its refreshing and annoying for alot is going over old ground/probs of the past not just recent APL but at least its getting some airplay. The problem is & always has been the administration of football in this country, too many agendas. The APL admin has failed & failed miserably. I'm all for change, real change not going back to the past. I'd say the problem is simply too many administrators and too many board rooms. The more administrators you have the more agendas you're gonna have. The whole system is ridiculously and unnecessarily inefficient.
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+x+x+xyep its refreshing and annoying for alot is going over old ground/probs of the past not just recent APL but at least its getting some airplay. The problem is & always has been the administration of football in this country, too many agendas. The APL admin has failed & failed miserably. I'm all for change, real change not going back to the past. I'd say the problem is simply too many administrators and too many board rooms. The more administrators you have the more agendas you're gonna have. The whole system is ridiculously and unnecessarily inefficient. I totally agree with you. The clubs, the association, the Federation & the FA all taking monies from the mums & Dads & none of them wanted to release their holds.
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+x+x+x+xyep its refreshing and annoying for alot is going over old ground/probs of the past not just recent APL but at least its getting some airplay. The problem is & always has been the administration of football in this country, too many agendas. The APL admin has failed & failed miserably. I'm all for change, real change not going back to the past. I'd say the problem is simply too many administrators and too many board rooms. The more administrators you have the more agendas you're gonna have. The whole system is ridiculously and unnecessarily inefficient. I totally agree with you. The clubs, the association, the Federation & the FA all taking monies from the mums & Dads & none of them wanted to release their holds. to both of you, I agree, I now actually don't think the $$$'s are that much a hidderance for as we are seeing regos just keep growing, people are used to pay and overpay those who can afford and it seems plenty, its the countless ones at rep level who we are losing mind you who could have been promising players. Yep its all the layers and layers - thats the barriers ?? - just like local govs etcetc its too complicated therefore all they care about is their own patch. This is where the FA/JJ, surely he sees all these barriers for the game, surely. For how many other CEO's current and ahead do they keep on beating along the same paths because thats the system and its all too difficult to break down or heads. This State difference has been a on going affair for decades, no we do it that way, because were not going to follow NSW or whoever because our State is different ?! Like why ? we're all playing the same game, we all have NPL/Prem/Association/Div1 down comps. Sure there are exceptions ie Regional etc Like WTF. Why can't the FA bring out the big stick bring them all together and draft up a system for ALL Feds and in the end say, WE the FA have the last say, if you don't like that we will get a Fed Prez that does. Maybe I'm talking crap.
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+xWhy can't the FA bring out the big stick bring them all together and draft up a system for ALL Feds and in the end say, WE the FA have the last say, if you don't like that we will get a Fed Prez that does. Maybe I'm talking crap. Could be wrong, but it seems the FA board members are always scared of being voted out. Again too many board rooms with too much power. If we look at something simple like the domestic transfer system. This is not complicated. We know how vital it is to football economies around the world. FA said in 2023 they were going to implement it. FIFA has regulations and guidelines regarding how this should be implemented and run. Yet here we are in May 2024 and still no domestic transfer system. Why? Because one or more board room had a sook and made demands. It's always you can have X but we want Y. Then the next board room says well if they get Y we want Z. Then the next board room says we also want X but we don't want Z. Then the circus music plays and a bunch of clowns dance around in circles. It's this weird mentality (which is not exclusive to football), that if one group gains something then my group must be losing something. Everything is approached in that way regardless of whether it's true or not. The result, nothing ever happens or if something does happen it's always kind of incomplete and just slumped over.
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Yer it’s ongoing merry go round and yet the 2 main bogan sports keep on keeping on in a volitile environment that the trend is mummy’s moving their kids away from bit by bit from their jnr programs. Union is a loss - check one for football to take advantage of. Cricket will hang in there but their time is the summer so no prob to normal winter comps. And here we are 2024 still in admin gridlock.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRobbos they had goes at Ange pretty much like a lot of us. Stop playing that game style whilst we didn’t have the cattle capable through important games. They admire good football like the lot of us we all have moved on from hoofball. The rest as you say what’s change at the top - yep not much but different faces. Id like to put my hand up and point out i didnt have a go at ange Both ange and arnie were outstanding in the a league amd both had a remarkable achievement with a modest squad. In anges case we won the asian cup on home soil. In arnies case got us out of the group and finished 11th There are problems in australian football, but the quality of national team coaching isnt one of them Ummm I feel like we have already forgotten the Olyroos? The Olympics were important when we never qualified for the World cup. Now who really cares, couldn't tell who won gold in Tokyo. Sure, not many people could tell you who finished 11th in Qatar either mate.... Yeah not many people can say they were in World cup sites all around the country watching the Socceroos at 4-6am & seeing Leckie score against Denmark & the the Socceroos taking it up to the Argies. Yeah, everyone saying geez I wished we qualified for Olympics. I mean you are both right Finishing 11th was fantastic and a brilliant world cup missing out on the olympics hurts a lot and would have been a great opportunity Of course it's sad we missed out on the Olympics, but that is life, in sport there is no given, Poor Mono is just looking at different ways to attack football in this country. Football is changing; An Egyptian is one of the best players I've seen in the EPL. Morocco qualified for the last WC semis. Italy has missed the last 2 WCs Japan topped a group in the world cup ahead of Japan & Germany. A Sth Korean is better than any Italian player at present Australia beat Denmark. Georgia qualified for Euros for first time Uzbekistan qualified for the Olympics for the first time. Football keeps on evolving and not many are standing still anymore, there is more competition coming in and making it more challenging in qualifying for these youth World Cup/olympics going into the future and soon it effect our ability to qualify for senior world cups as the last 2 editions we had to go through the playoffs to qualify. It would be naive to think we have gone backwards when other countries around us are improving rapidly, the Aus u20 team is a good example apparently a strong cohort coming through which got some good results and performances last year against strong countries in Europe but its no given they will get it there way in Asia where its gotten tougher in the last decade or so to qualify at junior world cup level. Its important Aus football continues to improve and find ways to be better but the landscape has changed quite alot.
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+x+xWhy can't the FA bring out the big stick bring them all together and draft up a system for ALL Feds and in the end say, WE the FA have the last say, if you don't like that we will get a Fed Prez that does. Maybe I'm talking crap. Could be wrong, but it seems the FA board members are always scared of being voted out. Again too many board rooms with too much power. If we look at something simple like the domestic transfer system. This is not complicated. We know how vital it is to football economies around the world. FA said in 2023 they were going to implement it. FIFA has regulations and guidelines regarding how this should be implemented and run. Yet here we are in May 2024 and still no domestic transfer system. Why? Because one or more board room had a sook and made demands. It's always you can have X but we want Y. Then the next board room says well if they get Y we want Z. Then the next board room says we also want X but we don't want Z. Then the circus music plays and a bunch of clowns dance around in circles. It's this weird mentality (which is not exclusive to football), that if one group gains something then my group must be losing something. Everything is approached in that way regardless of whether it's true or not. The result, nothing ever happens or if something does happen it's always kind of incomplete and just slumped over. I could be wrong but I think the roadblock for implementing the domestic transfer system comes from the PFA and the a-league clubs reluctance to bring one in, unless things have changed I guess we will find out if it comes in.
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I've not studied it closely but it seems pretty clear the main problem confronting football in Oz is that there are too many different stakeholders/confederations who turn Australian football into something like the United Nations - no sovereign authority to lead the way.
Compare us with any other country - England for example - there is one over-arching authority and they can plan and budget without having to get any number of nest feathering stakeholders onside.
The other problem, of course, is money. The govt doesn't give anywhere near enough to football in comparison with NRL/AFL but look at the participation rates. It's ridiculous.
Mind you, if I was the govt there's no way I'd be giving serious money to football until it unites and gets its house in order with all noses pointing in the same direction.
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+xI've not studied it closely but it seems pretty clear the main problem confronting football in Oz is that there are too many different stakeholders/confederations who turn Australian football into something like the United Nations - no sovereign authority to lead the way. Compare us with any other country - England for example - there is one over-arching authority and they can plan and budget without having to get any number of nest feathering stakeholders onside. The other problem, of course, is money. The govt doesn't give anywhere near enough to football in comparison with NRL/AFL but look at the participation rates. It's ridiculous. Mind you, if I was the govt there's no way I'd be giving serious money to football until it unites and gets its house in order with all noses pointing in the same direction. I get what you’re saying and I think JJ is taking a diplomatic approach. He seems to be building a financially strong FA which will help combat the financially strong state federations.
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Watched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool. Go.
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+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO.
Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool. Go. Exactly, Blind Freddy can tell you all the problems with football in this country & we want solutions & these guys are just being bitter & not providing any answers. As Ange just said on Optus with an interview with Mark Schwarzer that the problems in Australia exist like it always has but the Mariners win in Asia was like a Rose growing out of the weeds
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Ok. I have a lad in NPL1 Academy NSW. I coached him till 12. 3 years in this academy he has not improved. Some basic mistakes that I coached out of my JDL kids are horrifically allowed to happen by most of the lads. If some do something wrong they get hooked others are allowed.
The coaches have NOT even mildly tried to add to his skill set. They have kids in the side that pay extra for private training by the coach. They get some benefits but all up I find the whole show embarrassingly amateur, poor, mentally hopeless and a sham. He has already been offered a spot again next year and could go to another academy nearby but wont be continuing.
I'm encouraging my lad who has excellent athletic physics and great touch to think about AFL if he wants to be a paid sportsman because "elite" soccer here is a cancer.
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+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool. Go. A unified government lobby group to petition the money could do it?
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Muz, thats all it is - waffling on just like on here. They are no diff to anyone in here, passionate and invested int he game but we ALL have no solutions, they and us are not the types to break it down and present solutions and directives. They arn't bitter to me just talking by what they see and hear. Just talk, no more no less better than nothing even though it ends up with nothing lol....... yes robbos same smae as always, I recall the wsw AC win another wonderful period of watch this space in the better times compared to the rose growing through the weeds of late. Whats gonna change/become ? not much but a good news storey for a moment and now gone. Graz I agree re Bozza's lobby group mention, thought that had some merit and hence why I threw it out there to D2 for lol's, I do recall he is active in the local Tassie politics.
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+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool.Go. One possible solution may be to rethink the astronomical cost of FA coaching license courses that NPL clubs are mandated to have for training at every single tier of the age group for both girls and boys before they are even allowed to kick a ball in anger. As well as a paid technical director? I agree that the cost to play football (at a decent level) is ridiculously high but the fact remains that supply and demand means that for every talented youngster out there whose parents can't afford to send them to play there are a hundred numpties, wearing man City jerseys and CR7 boots, who's parent believe they will be the next Mbappe.
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+xOk. I have a lad in NPL1 Academy NSW. I coached him till 12. 3 years in this academy he has not improved. Some basic mistakes that I coached out of my JDL kids are horrifically allowed to happen by most of the lads. If some do something wrong they get hooked others are allowed. The coaches have NOT even mildly tried to add to his skill set. They have kids in the side that pay extra for private training by the coach. They get some benefits but all up I find the whole show embarrassingly amateur, poor, mentally hopeless and a sham. He has already been offered a spot again next year and could go to another academy nearby but wont be continuing. I'm encouraging my lad who has excellent athletic physics and great touch to think about AFL if he wants to be a paid sportsman because "elite" soccer here is a cancer. I see your frustration I hear you, went through it myself with both my boys. Both opted out coming into Snr's, just got sick of the BS.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRobbos they had goes at Ange pretty much like a lot of us. Stop playing that game style whilst we didn’t have the cattle capable through important games. They admire good football like the lot of us we all have moved on from hoofball. The rest as you say what’s change at the top - yep not much but different faces. Id like to put my hand up and point out i didnt have a go at ange Both ange and arnie were outstanding in the a league amd both had a remarkable achievement with a modest squad. In anges case we won the asian cup on home soil. In arnies case got us out of the group and finished 11th There are problems in australian football, but the quality of national team coaching isnt one of them Ummm I feel like we have already forgotten the Olyroos? The Olympics were important when we never qualified for the World cup. Now who really cares, couldn't tell who won gold in Tokyo. Sure, not many people could tell you who finished 11th in Qatar either mate.... Yeah not many people can say they were in World cup sites all around the country watching the Socceroos at 4-6am & seeing Leckie score against Denmark & the the Socceroos taking it up to the Argies. Yeah, everyone saying geez I wished we qualified for Olympics. I mean you are both right Finishing 11th was fantastic and a brilliant world cup missing out on the olympics hurts a lot and would have been a great opportunity Of course it's sad we missed out on the Olympics, but that is life, in sport there is no given, Poor Mono is just looking at different ways to attack football in this country. Football is changing; An Egyptian is one of the best players I've seen in the EPL. Morocco qualified for the last WC semis. Italy has missed the last 2 WCs Japan topped a group in the world cup ahead of Japan & Germany. A Sth Korean is better than any Italian player at present Australia beat Denmark. Georgia qualified for Euros for first time Uzbekistan qualified for the Olympics for the first time. Yeah I HATE fgootball mate, youve found the answer... well done Robbo.
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+xMuz, thats all it is - waffling on just like on here. They are no diff to anyone in here, passionate and invested int he game but we ALL have no solutions, they and us are not the types to break it down and present solutions and directives. They arn't bitter to me just talking by what they see and hear. Just talk, no more no less better than nothing even though it ends up with nothing lol....... yes robbos same smae as always, I recall the wsw AC win another wonderful period of watch this space in the better times compared to the rose growing through the weeds of late. Whats gonna change/become ? not much but a good news storey for a moment and now gone. Graz I agree re Bozza's lobby group mention, thought that had some merit and hence why I threw it out there to D2 for lol's, I do recall he is active in the local Tassie politics. LFC, we need change at the way we run football in this country & must throw out the agendas, both Boz & Slater were part of the Foxtel commentators, when Ange was barking out the need for change & they weren't so vocal when they were in the inner sanctum, but now very vocal when they were both not included in the new regime, like I said self agendas. Football has had a lot of good stories in recent time but like you said, it's there for a moment & gone & this is poor administration and marketing.
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+x+xMuz, thats all it is - waffling on just like on here. They are no diff to anyone in here, passionate and invested int he game but we ALL have no solutions, they and us are not the types to break it down and present solutions and directives. They arn't bitter to me just talking by what they see and hear. Just talk, no more no less better than nothing even though it ends up with nothing lol....... yes robbos same smae as always, I recall the wsw AC win another wonderful period of watch this space in the better times compared to the rose growing through the weeds of late. Whats gonna change/become ? not much but a good news storey for a moment and now gone. Graz I agree re Bozza's lobby group mention, thought that had some merit and hence why I threw it out there to D2 for lol's, I do recall he is active in the local Tassie politics. LFC, we need change at the way we run football in this country & must throw out the agendas, both Boz & Slater were part of the Foxtel commentators, when Ange was barking out the need for change & they weren't so vocal when they were in the inner sanctum, but now very vocal when they were both not included in the new regime, like I said self agendas. Football has had a lot of good stories in recent time but like you said, it's there for a moment & gone & this is poor administration and marketing. robbos, in defense of both, when your employed your gagged as you well know or more so you want to retain your gig, jobs are not plentiful in their realm so you toe the line as much as they'd like to say something...... Same applied with Simon Hill and others. We as a game get no where structually let alone marketed and a seamless admin. Its needs to be totally flipped or at least its head cracked open for massive open surgery. I hate to say this for I know it sets us back and back but the whole game, APL, needs a bomb and JJ needs to pull the bull by the horns and get this whole show re structured with people he can find and work with him to re model our game as 1 down through the leagues.
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I wonder if the APL will be "vocal" when they arent included in the new FA broadcasting deal coming up? I wonder if they will feel excluded from football moving on from their league? Maybe they will start talking about "uniting the game" for the good of all .... or maybe they'll try and expand into Indonesia and Vanuatu?
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+x+x+xMuz, thats all it is - waffling on just like on here. They are no diff to anyone in here, passionate and invested int he game but we ALL have no solutions, they and us are not the types to break it down and present solutions and directives. They arn't bitter to me just talking by what they see and hear. Just talk, no more no less better than nothing even though it ends up with nothing lol....... yes robbos same smae as always, I recall the wsw AC win another wonderful period of watch this space in the better times compared to the rose growing through the weeds of late. Whats gonna change/become ? not much but a good news storey for a moment and now gone. Graz I agree re Bozza's lobby group mention, thought that had some merit and hence why I threw it out there to D2 for lol's, I do recall he is active in the local Tassie politics. LFC, we need change at the way we run football in this country & must throw out the agendas, both Boz & Slater were part of the Foxtel commentators, when Ange was barking out the need for change & they weren't so vocal when they were in the inner sanctum, but now very vocal when they were both not included in the new regime, like I said self agendas. Football has had a lot of good stories in recent time but like you said, it's there for a moment & gone & this is poor administration and marketing. robbos, in defense of both, when your employed your gagged as you well know or more so you want to retain your gig, jobs are not plentiful in their realm so you toe the line as much as they'd like to say something...... Same applied with Simon Hill and others. We as a game get no where structually let alone marketed and a seamless admin. Its needs to be totally flipped or at least its head cracked open for massive open surgery. I hate to say this for I know it sets us back and back but the whole game, APL, needs a bomb and JJ needs to pull the bull by the horns and get this whole show re structured with people he can find and work with him to re model our game as 1 down through the leagues. LFC, I agree with you about the Whole game, not just the APL, but there are too many agendas. I am hoping JJ can be the man, but there are too many with too many agendas that may try to stop him, too many looking after themselves instead of the whole game. Government funding is required Quality Grassroots coaching & mainly free. Getting rid of nepotism, favoritism, choosing rep teams on merit. Get rid of State Feds Simon Hill is very critical of the game currently, even though he is employed, but he does not see Slater & Bozza as the saviours neither.
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