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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. I was just throwing up the bait for my old Anti A-league mate Mono & he bit. Look both semis nearly sold out & we have had another doom & gloom year in the APL, runs on an oily rag. Like I said I'm all for change, but if you think Slater, Bozza & Sth Melbourne are leading the way, well maybe not. BULLSHIT... "throwing up the bait"??? How gutless are ya? You got caught out and you know it you old perve. How am I caught out? Metaphor evades you my friend, come into real world, goggle is your friend, keep the insults coming no wonder you like fox & Murdoch, they support Trump & Trump uses insults. "metaphore" HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA OK ... Ill let you go now. Go find some Simon Hill NSL clips to keep you amused... Back before he turned plastic. Yes imagine if Ange didn't turn plastic, he'd be coaching his 6th Greek club in Victoria now, what a waste!!!!!! Do you have a picture of him holding a pole vault on your wall as well? No players or coaches are PLASTIC my dear confused Robbo, they are just seeking paid opportunities. Ange went on from a small part time Greek Australian Club to be a fairly respected figure in one of (if not THE greatest leagues in the world)... I see him mention South Melbourne a hell of a lot in his conversations with the worlds press ... not much of a mention about the plastic garbage league eh? He mentioned Mariners once and you came in your pants hahahahahaah. ..
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. I was just throwing up the bait for my old Anti A-league mate Mono & he bit. Look both semis nearly sold out & we have had another doom & gloom year in the APL, runs on an oily rag. Like I said I'm all for change, but if you think Slater, Bozza & Sth Melbourne are leading the way, well maybe not. lol so you 2 fish where the fish are, in your own pond hahaha Mate I would expect semis and gf sold out, casuals/and many neutrals are starved for football here so they turn up for the main non prem games. I won't mind if Bozza/Slater become part of the NST commentry - they are not ones to be involved of changes but bit player side kicks calling games no more no less IF that ever occurred.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. I was just throwing up the bait for my old Anti A-league mate Mono & he bit. Look both semis nearly sold out & we have had another doom & gloom year in the APL, runs on an oily rag. Like I said I'm all for change, but if you think Slater, Bozza & Sth Melbourne are leading the way, well maybe not. BULLSHIT... "throwing up the bait"??? How gutless are ya? You got caught out and you know it you old perve. How am I caught out? Metaphor evades you my friend, come into real world, goggle is your friend, keep the insults coming no wonder you like fox & Murdoch, they support Trump & Trump uses insults. "metaphore" HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA OK ... Ill let you go now. Go find some Simon Hill NSL clips to keep you amused... Back before he turned plastic. Yes imagine if Ange didn't turn plastic, he'd be coaching his 6th Greek club in Victoria now, what a waste!!!!!!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. I was just throwing up the bait for my old Anti A-league mate Mono & he bit. Look both semis nearly sold out & we have had another doom & gloom year in the APL, runs on an oily rag. Like I said I'm all for change, but if you think Slater, Bozza & Sth Melbourne are leading the way, well maybe not. BULLSHIT... "throwing up the bait"??? How gutless are ya? You got caught out and you know it you old perve. How am I caught out? Metaphor evades you my friend, come into real world, goggle is your friend, keep the insults coming no wonder you like fox & Murdoch, they support Trump & Trump uses insults. "metaphore" HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA OK ... Ill let you go now. Go find some Simon Hill NSL clips to keep you amused... Back before he turned plastic.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. I was just throwing up the bait for my old Anti A-league mate Mono & he bit. Look both semis nearly sold out & we have had another doom & gloom year in the APL, runs on an oily rag. Like I said I'm all for change, but if you think Slater, Bozza & Sth Melbourne are leading the way, well maybe not. BULLSHIT... "throwing up the bait"??? How gutless are ya? You got caught out and you know it you old perve. How am I caught out? Metaphor evades you my friend, come into real world, goggle is your friend, keep the insults coming no wonder you like fox & Murdoch, they support Trump & Trump uses insults.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. I was just throwing up the bait for my old Anti A-league mate Mono & he bit. Look both semis nearly sold out & we have had another doom & gloom year in the APL, runs on an oily rag. Like I said I'm all for change, but if you think Slater, Bozza & Sth Melbourne are leading the way, well maybe not. BULLSHIT... "throwing up the bait"??? How gutless are ya? You got caught out and you know it you old perve.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. I was just throwing up the bait for my old Anti A-league mate Mono & he bit. Look both semis nearly sold out & we have had another doom & gloom year in the APL, runs on an oily rag. Like I said I'm all for change, but if you think Slater, Bozza & Sth Melbourne are leading the way, well maybe not.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder. He was in a social media fight a couple of years ago with an Asian Australian soccer fan trying to convince them that there is NO way an "effnik club" like South Melbourne would ever attract people outside their own "effncities" despite this particular fan being BOTH Asian and a member.... what a self serving tool.
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+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. You really ARE clueless about anything pre-plastic league arent you? Who is commentating in the NSL grand final with Fozzie below, someone pretending to be Hill? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8VliX3FHM
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+x+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL. rob, I don't think its that black and white, I like the bloke but here's my take, he has his own agendas where his mouth is fed and where he was prior And I'd suggest he has a bone to pick with some fellow ex work mates, hey we all have differing opinions with work mates. I could be clutching at straws but you can always wonder.
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+x+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK. Agendas mate, I know Simon was not involved with the NSL.
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+x+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas. hahahaha... oh wait you are being serious? Oh man, no wonder we will never get anywhere in this country... OK.
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+x+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him. Well Simon is one of the few without agendas in this country, he has the game at the forefront, more like him & Ange & JJ & maybe, just maybe we might turn it around in this country. Na only joking, no chance too many with too many agendas.
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+x+x+x+x+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool.Go. One possible solution may be to rethink the astronomical cost of FA coaching license courses that NPL clubs are mandated to have for training at every single tier of the age group for both girls and boys before they are even allowed to kick a ball in anger. As well as a paid technical director? I agree that the cost to play football (at a decent level) is ridiculously high but the fact remains that supply and demand means that for every talented youngster out there whose parents can't afford to send them to play there are a hundred numpties, wearing man City jerseys and CR7 boots, who's parent believe they will be the next Mbappe. What's a coaching course cost for NPL? I thought it was around $4k but I might be wrong. (So one kid's rego would pay that.) Also don't we want qualified coaches? Yeah its around that I believe to do both C and the B youth but then if someone is going to pay out of his own pocket to do the course would you not expect them to be paid to coach (if nothing else to pay off the cost of the license) why doesn't the FA make it free if we want qualified coaches? What about the insistence of a Technical director??? WF? I dont have the answers, any of them mate, Im not on the coalface but its too simplisitic to say costs are too high because of the clubs.... Let's say under 13's to 18's have squads of 16 players each. That's 96 players paying $3170.00 each. That's $304 200.00. Not including 'additional' training sessions and the rest of it. But that's not my point. The point is we know the costs are a barrier to entry, to playing and to continuing to play BUT know one knows how to reduce those costs. Or at least I haven't seen a decent proposal as yet. Grazor suggested a lobby group but besides big ticket items (like stadia) there's no way the government is going to subsidise all NPL regos to the tune of $2 - $3k a year all over Australia. It just won't happen. A couple of "back of the napkin" thoughts from me are, each federation should be able to work with ALL clubs under their care to present a unified insurance product that will reduce the burden. Another is (which I believe is being worked on) a unified lobby to local government for reduced hire of fields and facilities, combined with a "package deal" on energy bills for lights and council rates... AFL (I assume NRL) subsidise the shit out of their grass roots clubs for this very purpose, we spend money on WC junkets and websites that dont work... $70 million pumped into grassroots would have come a long way towards player affordability but the "suits" see the hundreds of thousands of parents willing to fork out the high fees and dont feel the priority... its more important to provide a ROI to foreigners... and blame the "effniks" clubs for paying their senior players....
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+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Good boy Simon .... Hope he doesnt change his tune if he leaves the Paramount stable.... that would be a little mercenary of him.
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+x+x+x+x+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool.Go. One possible solution may be to rethink the astronomical cost of FA coaching license courses that NPL clubs are mandated to have for training at every single tier of the age group for both girls and boys before they are even allowed to kick a ball in anger. As well as a paid technical director? I agree that the cost to play football (at a decent level) is ridiculously high but the fact remains that supply and demand means that for every talented youngster out there whose parents can't afford to send them to play there are a hundred numpties, wearing man City jerseys and CR7 boots, who's parent believe they will be the next Mbappe. What's a coaching course cost for NPL? I thought it was around $4k but I might be wrong. (So one kid's rego would pay that.) Also don't we want qualified coaches? Yeah its around that I believe to do both C and the B youth but then if someone is going to pay out of his own pocket to do the course would you not expect them to be paid to coach (if nothing else to pay off the cost of the license) why doesn't the FA make it free if we want qualified coaches? What about the insistence of a Technical director??? WF? I dont have the answers, any of them mate, Im not on the coalface but its too simplisitic to say costs are too high because of the clubs.... Let's say under 13's to 18's have squads of 16 players each. That's 96 players paying $3170.00 each. That's $304 200.00. Not including 'additional' training sessions and the rest of it. But that's not my point. The point is we know the costs are a barrier to entry, to playing and to continuing to play BUT know one knows how to reduce those costs. Or at least I haven't seen a decent proposal as yet. Grazor suggested a lobby group but besides big ticket items (like stadia) there's no way the government is going to subsidise all NPL regos to the tune of $2 - $3k a year all over Australia. It just won't happen. Hey I'm just another pleb on here with interest but its pretty obvious a game of our stature/size needs to muscle in for gov funding for starters. I came across this that was interesting. https://australiansportreflections.com/2024/02/28/update-on-federal-and-state-governments-funding-of-afl-and-nrl-high-performance-training-centres/Maybe a lobby group as mentioned for its seems our own FA just can't get through - even at the WWC here it was quoted in the media by players/GA has a few times - how about more funding to Football for all to see, nothing has happenned eh ? I wonder what Jnr costs are involved in NRL/AFL anyone got any intel on this ? Its a entirely different model/sport mind you. Hardly any National exposure re NT games but for the NRL WC/6's or whatever. I think elite levels leave as is for thats too big a task to work on at this stage its down at grass roots/Association that needs more support. To improve facilities and reduction on regos so as local Clubs get some cost breaks, they can also spend on improvements as well instead of just working their butts off to cover their season costs and get some funds in the their banks.
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I think both share good points is there some beef in there probably but overall both make good points with the direction of the league.
And we need a lot more of it, the more debate and critical analysis the better the problem is the media landscape is so small we never get this enough.
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+xThat comes off a bit stupid for me the fox guys had their day the ten guys had their say we don't need a wwe survivor series match here. Just move on for Christ sake We don't?! Actually, you're right, lets put them in the War Games cage
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That comes off a bit stupid for me the fox guys had their day the ten guys had their say we don't need a wwe survivor series match here. Just move on for Christ sake
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+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected Main Media guy but won't buy a tax-deductible subscription to Murdoch. Sets out the camps early Slater's chipped in 
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Love his comments on the last few years with Fox & the A-League especially during Covid. Murdoch media is no friends of football in Australia & them via Code (Bozza & Slater) providing insights is like the AFL providing insights to the NRL. NO Thanks.
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+x+x+x+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool.Go. One possible solution may be to rethink the astronomical cost of FA coaching license courses that NPL clubs are mandated to have for training at every single tier of the age group for both girls and boys before they are even allowed to kick a ball in anger. As well as a paid technical director? I agree that the cost to play football (at a decent level) is ridiculously high but the fact remains that supply and demand means that for every talented youngster out there whose parents can't afford to send them to play there are a hundred numpties, wearing man City jerseys and CR7 boots, who's parent believe they will be the next Mbappe. What's a coaching course cost for NPL? I thought it was around $4k but I might be wrong. (So one kid's rego would pay that.) Also don't we want qualified coaches? Yeah its around that I believe to do both C and the B youth but then if someone is going to pay out of his own pocket to do the course would you not expect them to be paid to coach (if nothing else to pay off the cost of the license) why doesn't the FA make it free if we want qualified coaches? What about the insistence of a Technical director??? WF? I dont have the answers, any of them mate, Im not on the coalface but its too simplisitic to say costs are too high because of the clubs.... Let's say under 13's to 18's have squads of 16 players each. That's 96 players paying $3170.00 each. That's $304 200.00. Not including 'additional' training sessions and the rest of it. But that's not my point. The point is we know the costs are a barrier to entry, to playing and to continuing to play BUT know one knows how to reduce those costs. Or at least I haven't seen a decent proposal as yet. Grazor suggested a lobby group but besides big ticket items (like stadia) there's no way the government is going to subsidise all NPL regos to the tune of $2 - $3k a year all over Australia. It just won't happen.
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cheers, Hey kudos to Hill I like him and not surprised he seeing his way as well. The narratives as he quotes works both ways. Don't think Peacocks side of discussion between them mentioned anything of going back to FOX, all those 3 explained is what it was way back then $$ wise before things started going pear shaped. Comparing funding originally to current. Now I get Hill sticking up for his side of the ledger for he did have a dig saying they are on Murdochs owned side (Codesports) whereas he's not the opposite. So thats moot. Defending worst deal with P+, well ofcourse there was no one else throwing money to the game APL had no choice but to take the $140M. He reckons its not as bad as it is, funnily both he and Brosquey quote why the KPI's are not met for not enough viewing eyes are on the game. So overall to me as usual, one side say their bit and the other says theirs, nothing constructive comes from it, same ol same ol.
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+xSimon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day Firmer response than i expected https://twitter.com/Farpostperth/status/1790395781360628010link to simon hill's response
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Simon hill on the global game passionately defending 10 and saying there has been no change to the tv money since 22/23 and also making a point of some of the issues with fox back in the day
Firmer response than i expected
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+x+x+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool.Go. One possible solution may be to rethink the astronomical cost of FA coaching license courses that NPL clubs are mandated to have for training at every single tier of the age group for both girls and boys before they are even allowed to kick a ball in anger. As well as a paid technical director? I agree that the cost to play football (at a decent level) is ridiculously high but the fact remains that supply and demand means that for every talented youngster out there whose parents can't afford to send them to play there are a hundred numpties, wearing man City jerseys and CR7 boots, who's parent believe they will be the next Mbappe. What's a coaching course cost for NPL? I thought it was around $4k but I might be wrong. (So one kid's rego would pay that.) Also don't we want qualified coaches? Yeah its around that I believe to do both C and the B youth but then if someone is going to pay out of his own pocket to do the course would you not expect them to be paid to coach (if nothing else to pay off the cost of the license) why doesn't the FA make it free if we want qualified coaches? What about the insistence of a Technical director??? WF? I dont have the answers, any of them mate, Im not on the coalface but its too simplisitic to say costs are too high because of the clubs....
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+x+xWatched part 2 of that yesterday on youtube and it's horrible. Slater waffles, Bosnich waffles, no new ideas as to how to remove barriers and lower fees for kids. Bosnich saying it's cheap, Slater complaining but offering nothing. 'We need a unified system'. Isn't that what the NC is about? 'We need more academies, competition is good'. Wait up, last week we needed to bring the AIS back! 'We need to get rid of keeping scores in the younger games.' Well yes that's already happening at 12's and under. SSGs and no tables etc. Until another talking head comes along and says 'you can't tell me kids don't want to win'. Take a drink every time Bosnich says 100% and you'd be paralytic after 5 minutes. And Slater?! 'We need to know how the NRL and AFL can afford to be so cheap'. (Paraphrasing.) For Fucks Sake. If you don't know by know they have a multi billion dollar TV deal then you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years. I could go on and on but I couldn't be arsed. Honestly there's a million things wrong with football in Australia and I see none of these blokes offering solutions. THEY NEVER DO. Let's just start with a simple one. How do you reduce fees for NPL football at the junior level which are now capped at (and what most parents are getting charged) at $3170.00? Which would bring down barriers and increase the talent pool.Go. One possible solution may be to rethink the astronomical cost of FA coaching license courses that NPL clubs are mandated to have for training at every single tier of the age group for both girls and boys before they are even allowed to kick a ball in anger. As well as a paid technical director? I agree that the cost to play football (at a decent level) is ridiculously high but the fact remains that supply and demand means that for every talented youngster out there whose parents can't afford to send them to play there are a hundred numpties, wearing man City jerseys and CR7 boots, who's parent believe they will be the next Mbappe. What's a coaching course cost for NPL? I thought it was around $4k but I might be wrong. (So one kid's rego would pay that.) Also don't we want qualified coaches?
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+x+xOk. I have a lad in NPL1 Academy NSW. I coached him till 12. 3 years in this academy he has not improved. Some basic mistakes that I coached out of my JDL kids are horrifically allowed to happen by most of the lads. If some do something wrong they get hooked others are allowed. The coaches have NOT even mildly tried to add to his skill set. They have kids in the side that pay extra for private training by the coach. They get some benefits but all up I find the whole show embarrassingly amateur, poor, mentally hopeless and a sham. He has already been offered a spot again next year and could go to another academy nearby but wont be continuing. I'm encouraging my lad who has excellent athletic physics and great touch to think about AFL if he wants to be a paid sportsman because "elite" soccer here is a cancer. I see your frustration I hear you, went through it myself with both my boys. Both opted out coming into Snr's, just got sick of the BS. I did a thread on the training sessions in england and i asked if anyone can give me an overview of what training their kids are recieving (aka a typical session). Can deebee and lfc elaborate? I did a youth coach training course in england and will do a thread comparing the development strategy. The spoiler is that our training is miles ahead of theirs but england compensate for that many times over by giving resources to parents and kids (videos of things to do with kids at home etc). Good training v bad training can take a kid from having 100 touches a session to 600 and avoid those touches being ones that reinforce bad habits. However you will have 10 times that many touches at home so focusing on increasing and improving touches at home is a good idea
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exactely above robbos, no way are the 2 mentioned as saviours, its all in JJ/FA court, he is the man responsible to put things together full stop period. I don't mind influence and comments from for eg GA/Ange you name it those with inside experience and even input from the ex players of the past, any feedback should be welcomed as long as it viable and useful.
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+x+x+xMuz, thats all it is - waffling on just like on here. They are no diff to anyone in here, passionate and invested int he game but we ALL have no solutions, they and us are not the types to break it down and present solutions and directives. They arn't bitter to me just talking by what they see and hear. Just talk, no more no less better than nothing even though it ends up with nothing lol....... yes robbos same smae as always, I recall the wsw AC win another wonderful period of watch this space in the better times compared to the rose growing through the weeds of late. Whats gonna change/become ? not much but a good news storey for a moment and now gone. Graz I agree re Bozza's lobby group mention, thought that had some merit and hence why I threw it out there to D2 for lol's, I do recall he is active in the local Tassie politics. LFC, we need change at the way we run football in this country & must throw out the agendas, both Boz & Slater were part of the Foxtel commentators, when Ange was barking out the need for change & they weren't so vocal when they were in the inner sanctum, but now very vocal when they were both not included in the new regime, like I said self agendas. Football has had a lot of good stories in recent time but like you said, it's there for a moment & gone & this is poor administration and marketing. robbos, in defense of both, when your employed your gagged as you well know or more so you want to retain your gig, jobs are not plentiful in their realm so you toe the line as much as they'd like to say something...... Same applied with Simon Hill and others. We as a game get no where structually let alone marketed and a seamless admin. Its needs to be totally flipped or at least its head cracked open for massive open surgery. I hate to say this for I know it sets us back and back but the whole game, APL, needs a bomb and JJ needs to pull the bull by the horns and get this whole show re structured with people he can find and work with him to re model our game as 1 down through the leagues. LFC, I agree with you about the Whole game, not just the APL, but there are too many agendas. I am hoping JJ can be the man, but there are too many with too many agendas that may try to stop him, too many looking after themselves instead of the whole game. Government funding is required Quality Grassroots coaching & mainly free. Getting rid of nepotism, favoritism, choosing rep teams on merit. Get rid of State Feds Simon Hill is very critical of the game currently, even though he is employed, but he does not see Slater & Bozza as the saviours neither.
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