Guessing Competition:- What will the next FA Broadcast Deal be.


Guessing Competition:- What will the next FA Broadcast Deal be.

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Last time FA signed for effectively 4 years, twas actually 3.7 years but lets say 4 years for 90 million. With 10 & P+ paying the broadcast costs.

The Australian reported a couple of weeks back the next deal was 200 million over 4 years.

The closest to final figure, will be the GOAT poster of the week.

My guess, 

Cash .... 225 million
Ads on 10 & P+ .... 40 million
10 pay all broadcasting costs.

Interesting if it is this high should FA help APL over the next 12 months .
 
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I'd love you to be right, but can't help being a tad more pessimistic.

200 mill total value with about 50 mill of that made up of broadcasting costs etc.

Mind you, the FA already have plenty of money (doesn't it?) so you'd hope there'd be some sort of assistance for the struggling AL. Even if FA might be tempted to play the violin as the APL burns.
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Does FA get to negotiate the TV rights for A-League though? You'd think that would be an APL thing...
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NicCarBel - 7 Jun 2024 3:07 PM
Does FA get to negotiate the TV rights for A-League though? You'd think that would be an APL thing...

APL negotiate their own deal,,,
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Apparently settled a few months ago but not announced for some reason
.fas budget before the deal is 260mil in revenue

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grazorblade - 7 Jun 2024 3:38 PM
Apparently settled a few months ago but not announced for some reason
.fas budget before the deal is 260mil in revenue

thats a big amount especially if 10 pay broadcast costs and do some promotional work as well..
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Why should the FA kick in for the AL ???
They negotiated their own deal to be on their own steam because they didn’t like having the ol FA having a say in their model !
Seriously that’s just illogical and not business in the first place.
So you reckon go in and save huge private or public businesses who like most are shonksters where as they won’t save themselves lol……

I’ll stick by what the goss is $200M.




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LFC. - 7 Jun 2024 6:53 PM
Why should the FA kick in for the AL ???
They negotiated their own deal to be on their own steam because they didn’t like having the ol FA having a say in their model !
Seriously that’s just illogical and not business in the first place.
So you reckon go in and save huge private or public businesses who like most are shonksters where as they won’t save themselves lol……

I’ll stick by what the goss is $200M.



I agree in principle. However, the FA's remit is all of football in Australia and they will not want the A-Leagues to fail.
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patjennings - 7 Jun 2024 7:25 PM
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I agree in principle. However, the FA's remit is all of football in Australia and they will not want the A-Leagues to fail.

Further its the A & W especially the W league thats will get government funding, and they do provide the players for the national teams... 

Its weird, everyone was calling and supporting the break away when it our history it was maybe the first time the national teams were learning on the club competition....

Now it looks like being back to normal in the sense that FA support the clubs.... 


 
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Correct the FA support the CLUBS in the eco system below AL who are a separate entity and the clubs below are the ones who fostered any up and comer getting to NT levels in the first place.
Sorry football won’t disappear or die when and if the AL pack up - infact it will be the necessary forced reset the game as whole needs for the APL and their owners won’t accept becoming part of the fabric having their balls cut off with all the money they have put in for zip.



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LFC. - 8 Jun 2024 10:29 AM
Correct the FA support the CLUBS in the eco system below AL who are a separate entity and the clubs below are the ones who fostered any up and comer getting to NT levels in the first place.
Sorry football won’t disappear or die when and if the AL pack up - infact it will be the necessary forced reset the game as whole needs for the APL and their owners won’t accept becoming part of the fabric having their balls cut off with all the money they have put in for zip.


The A Leagues may prosper or they may wither and die and force a wholesale reset. It still doesn't change the fact that Football Australia's remit is all of football in Australia, I really don't expect that they should be supporting the APL financially - the APL owners got what they wanted. But the FA still has an interest and they would not be doing their job if they didn't explore opportunities to further football'sinterests in Australia including the A Leagues. In the same way FA are facilitating the NST without it seems financially supporting the NST clubs. Similarly, they are providing guidance about community grants for grassroots football from different levels of government.
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patjennings - 8 Jun 2024 2:04 PM
LFC. - 8 Jun 2024 10:29 AM

The A Leagues may prosper or they may wither and die and force a wholesale reset. It still doesn't change the fact that Football Australia's remit is all of football in Australia, I really don't expect that they should be supporting the APL financially - the APL owners got what they wanted. But the FA still has an interest and they would not be doing their job if they didn't explore opportunities to further football'sinterests in Australia including the A Leagues. In the same way FA are facilitating the NST without it seems financially supporting the NST clubs. Similarly, they are providing guidance about community grants for grassroots football from different levels of government.

I am not sure what kind of support you are expecting FA to provide to the APL. It seems that they are in a financial hole so any other kind of support would be superfluous.
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I am not sure what kind of support you are expecting FA to provide to the APL. It seems that they are in a financial hole so any other kind of support would be superfluous.

Just don't look at incomes - look at expenses. e.g. Roar is paying a fortune at Lang Park. Co-ordinated government liaison (APL and FA) to Federal and State governments can help get Perry Park upgraded and make that the main ground for the Roar. Some games may still need to need to played at Lang Park but playing at a more appropriate sized stadium - like Adelaide does - would save them a lot. 
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patjennings - 8 Jun 2024 2:04 PM
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The A Leagues may prosper or they may wither and die and force a wholesale reset. It still doesn't change the fact that Football Australia's remit is all of football in Australia, I really don't expect that they should be supporting the APL financially - the APL owners got what they wanted. But the FA still has an interest and they would not be doing their job if they didn't explore opportunities to further football'sinterests in Australia including the A Leagues. In the same way FA are facilitating the NST without it seems financially supporting the NST clubs. Similarly, they are providing guidance about community grants for grassroots football from different levels of government.

Exactly, I am not sure why some doesn't understand this.


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Unless collapse is certain fa should not jump in. The lack of the fas security blanket has forced the a league to try a strategy that in the long run helps if they dont implode in the short term

They need to optimize matchday profits and transfer profits to get in a virtuous cycle. In the long run this helps oz football

Havibg said that i dont think we can start again. We have done it once throwing out the nsl , we need to stop building from scratch over and over
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Absolutely right Glazer, no reset as this damages the whole of Aus Football.
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It seems that the model that the Mariners have established over the last couple of years has shown the bigger clubs that you don’t need to spend millions to be successful. The APL are also taking notice of the fact that you don’t need to throw huge amounts at the bigger clubs to make the league successful. 
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grazorblade - 8 Jun 2024 9:24 PM
Unless collapse is certain fa should not jump in. The lack of the fas security blanket has forced the a league to try a strategy that in the long run helps if they dont implode in the short term

They need to optimize matchday profits and transfer profits to get in a virtuous cycle. In the long run this helps oz football

Havibg said that i dont think we can start again. We have done it once throwing out the nsl , we need to stop building from scratch over and over

I agree. We can't start again. This league has been around since the 2005-6 season.



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Razor Ramon - 10 Jun 2024 6:18 AM
grazorblade - 8 Jun 2024 9:24 PM

I agree. We can't start again. This league has been around since the 2005-6 season.



indeed we need to some how keep what we have, rebuild what we lost in the nsl and patch it back together. The fa splitting is the only reason there are steps in this direction
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patjennings - 8 Jun 2024 2:04 PM

Exactly, I am not sure why some doesn't understand this.


I understand the FA’s job for all in the game point is the APL do not……..it’s obvious their system being separate and closed wont work for the game below.
How can the game grow together having 2 different paths, I have quoted this before.
The reset should be the FA guiding the APL accept the peace pipe and absorb the top game with the NST for eg…..
Instead of having a system that is chasing licenses fees and unearth new shops that don’t compute put the resources the FA gain goes partly into building up viable existing Clubs turning Pro in the NST.
Something like that I’m sure there are many suitable ways to build this new comp reset that can bring a lot of the invested neglected supporters below in.
Im no genius but its pretty obvious the game to really grow needs the NST and system below working in far better harmony incl the top not excluding ! 
There will always be the divide otherwise.


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LFC. - 10 Jun 2024 8:49 AM
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I understand the FA’s job for all in the game point is the APL do not……..it’s obvious their system being separate and closed wont work for the game below.
How can the game grow together having 2 different paths, I have quoted this before.
The reset should be the FA guiding the APL accept the peace pipe and absorb the top game with the NST for eg…..
Instead of having a system that is chasing licenses fees and unearth new shops that don’t compute put the resources the FA gain goes partly into building up viable existing Clubs turning Pro in the NST.
Something like that I’m sure there are many suitable ways to build this new comp reset that can bring a lot of the invested neglected supporters below in.
Im no genius but its pretty obvious the game to really grow needs the NST and system below working in far better harmony incl the top not excluding ! 
There will always be the divide otherwise.

This is how I exactly how I see it and I’m not sure why others can’t.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdONT-arBx8

How the costly split in soccer is threatening the beautiful game | The Business

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libelous - 10 Jun 2024 11:52 AM
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This is how I exactly how I see it and I’m not sure why others can’t.

because they are only looking at the small picture and a separate one at that.


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johnszasz - 11 Jun 2024 5:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdONT-arBx8

How the costly split in soccer is threatening the beautiful game | The Business

Thanks johns,

This by Joey Lynch back in June 6 - the last sentence I pasted below.
Football's focus: Time for A-League to concentrate on strengths - ESPN
"spending half their time moonlighting as corporate strategists or demographic experts."

New article just in 
https://apple.news/AUT9Pp376S--_Ze8HqyPYBg



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LFC. - 11 Jun 2024 9:31 AM
johnszasz - 11 Jun 2024 5:52 AM

Thanks johns,

This by Joey Lynch back in June 6 - the last sentence I pasted below.
Football's focus: Time for A-League to concentrate on strengths - ESPN
"spending half their time moonlighting as corporate strategists or demographic experts."

New article just in 
https://apple.news/AUT9Pp376S--_Ze8HqyPYBg


Great article by Joey Lynch who is undoubtedly the best football writer this country has. His empathy with the fans and how out of step the APL is shows just where everything is going wrong.
The other article, on Apple News,  is just telling us what’s wrong with the A league but no suggestions on how it might be fixed.


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