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dman2018
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Yes...
Next year... So important right now...
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hounddog
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+xYes... Next year... So important right now... Fans are fast running out of things to whinge about this year. Go Dogs!!!!
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hounddog
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Hopoi 2 tear extension, 1 year development, 1 year NRL, Gus likes that formula for young guys.
Underhill also apparently extended, probably similar.
I am interested in what happens with Patolo and Farmer, I expect one or both might get a run in the next couple of weeks.
Tetevano definitely leaving, Knight probably leaving.
The physical nature of the Storm/Panthers game is an example of the level we need to get to.
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Funnily enough hd, I thought the Storm/Panthers game was rather uninspiring. It didn't give me that "wow, there are the premiers right there" vibe at all.
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ODF
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Well I hope the warriors play as sh!t next week as hey just did against manly.
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dman2018
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+xWell I hope the warriors play as sh!t next week as hey just did against manly. They could've down is a favour this week... fekk them.. we'll just be great next week and pump em...
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Mick O
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+x+x+x+x+xI think that we are all struggling to understand Dogs 2024, because it is something we have never seen before. I've been following NRL since 1973 and followed the local comp and school team before that. Small mobile forwards all working together in defence wax a formula Bellamy had at the early days of the Storm. But we smashed them once in an important game with a bigger forward pack and Bellamy added more size while keeping most of the defence. Blocker likened our attack to the "Green Machine" at their peak, Stewart, Dailey, Meningie, Nagas, Mullins and Co. It is similar with skilful passing, great long and short kicking, and pace on the edge. We don't quite have the equivalent of Big Mal and those "Green Machine" sides also had a great pack of forwards with some very good props. But in particular, I can ever remember a rebuild for any club going this well, especially after 5-8 seasons in the wilderness and with diabolical defence and ordinary attack the year before. Most NRL fans seem to assume that it is some kind of fluke and that it can’t last. We don't know what happens next, I don't know, I've never seen this before. In particular, I don't remember a side improving their attack and defence so much season on season. We did have a star recruit in Critter. Xerri was a known class player returning from 4 years out. But recruitment doesn't really explain it. Mase, SBW, Asotasi, Thurston a co were known lower grade stars, the NRL side improving when they were promoted wasn't a big surprise. The only player a bit like that is Skelton. I had never heard of Hopoi, Todd, Underhill, Hayes and Clarke before this season. Hayes in particular came from obscurity and looks like a guy who has played 50 NRL games. Sure there is an element of luck, but a lot of this has to be great coaching. I think we should wait till the end of the season before anointing any player or coach. We are doing great. Much better than we have in years. But I’m still not sold. If we win the last four straight we could be top four. If we drop a few games we still could miss the eight.
I’m very happy Ciro has done so well. I’m just not confident in him continuing to do so. Regardless of what happens from here this season has been a success. None of our remaining games are easy, but all are winnable. I think that we can beat the Fins even if Perham plays fullback. Wilson is probably out for the rest of the season. Skelton is suspended for I think one week. Skelton is going to the Tigers which should work out OK for all. I would like to keep Skelton, but we have Clarke and Sua. Next year I think Tom and Toups will add something. Our lock role is tailor made for Karl O. Our depth should be better in 2025. Injuries in the spine could derail our season. Injuries are a matter of luck, nothing to do with coaching. Teams like Souths and Parra will probably have a better 2025, we will need to improve just to be sure about making the semis. At this stage we are aiming to make the Semis each year. Injury free with the team in form, Karl and big Tom probably decide how deep we go. I think that we will add more depth in the forwards. This season is not a success if we miss the finals. From where we are now I would add that winning our first final as well would ensure a success.
Either way, Ciraldo has a much better chance of remaining a first grade coach after this year. But he still has a few years of continuous success before being considered a good first grade coach.
In my personal opinion I think he has what it takes from what I have seen and heard. But I’m not sold yet. It’s the hardest job in the game coaching.
What were your expectations at the start of the season? I was hoping to just scape into the 8. Many fans were not that optimistic. As long as the team shows a trend of improving I am happy with the coach. Generally the trend is that the longer the season goes the better we get. I see the Fins as similar to the Broncos, some good attacking players, but suspect defence. The best way to be sure of beating a team like that is put a score on them and don't let them get close. That way they don't win with 2 late lucky trys. We should be running some attack at Averillo. At the start of the season I think I said I would be happy with top ten but hopefully competing for the finals. But me being happy and success are different. It’s a success if we make the finals. It’s a good success if we win our first final. It’s a great success if we win more finals. Etc. I would be attacking Avo all game. Just run angles on him and try to beat him with power. He can’t defend.
More importantly I would be running lots of traffic at Katoa.
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Mick O
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+xFunnily enough hd, I thought the Storm/Panthers game was rather uninspiring. It didn't give me that "wow, there are the premiers right there" vibe at all. I thought exactly the same. Neither team lifted to a high level. Both just scrapped it out. If anything it gave me confidence if we have to play either of them.
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dman2018
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Great... We are 6th ..
#sackgus...
#sackCC...
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Mick O
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+x+xWell I hope the warriors play as sh!t next week as hey just did against manly. They could've down is a favour this week... fekk them.. we'll just be great next week and pump em... Warriors with nothing to play for next week. We should beat them easily. Just need to get in front early and keep the pressure on them.
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hounddog
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+xFunnily enough hd, I thought the Storm/Panthers game was rather uninspiring. It didn't give me that "wow, there are the premiers right there" vibe at all. The intensity and physical contact was the part that we might struggle to match. All sides made unforced errors and there were a few. Considering the number of passes we throw our error rate is very low. We also move the ball faster than other sides and we have the necessary speed and skill outside. If we can match a side in the physical side, we should beat them. That is why I am taking a intest in Patolo and Farmer, I still think that we need another big middle.
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+x+x+xWell I hope the warriors play as sh!t next week as hey just did against manly. They could've down is a favour this week... fekk them.. we'll just be great next week and pump em... Warriors with nothing to play for next week. We should beat them easily. Just need to get in front early and keep the pressure on them. They are playing to give SJ a send off in front of passionate home fans. From what I saw of the Fins / Warriors game, we should beat both sides. You are right about the way to beat the Warriors and ideally beat the Fins the same way we beat the Broncos.
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+xGreat... We are 6th .. #sackgus... #sackCC... #SackHD...
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+x+xGreat... We are 6th .. #sackgus... #sackCC... #SackHD... 5th.....6th..... Its all home final to me.....
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Not sure this is the right forum for this, but here it goes...
What do you guys call a ghost poo?
Is it when you look back at the bowl and ita gone passed the S-bend, or is it when you wipe and there is no evidence of it?
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ODF
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Marki has been into the breakfast cones again!
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Riiiight…
cognitive decline.
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Everytime I think Cirro is going to pick a bigger forward, he never does it.
Patolo isn't listed in reserve grade, I hope that he isn't injured.
Salmon looks like a certain inclusion...
It is amazing how every week the game is vital and the opposition have a lot to play for.
I win today means that we are almost certainly in the 8, and keeps top 4 in the frame.
#GoDogs
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dman2018
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+xNot sure this is the right forum for this, but here it goes... What do you guys call a ghost poo? Is it when you look back at the bowl and ita gone passed the S-bend, or is it when you wipe and there is no evidence of it? You talk shit on this forum alm the time...
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We need to tidy up the errors and use the wind in the second half.
We are just managing to keep them in the game.
Need to ice the game from here.
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Unfortunately at this point the Dogs aren't impressing me much. They look pedestrian. I hope Cirro has the phins worked out an the boys go on with it in the 2nd.
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Great to get a win,
Our execution was a bit clunky and they scrabbled well.
The Fins were lucky to get 10, our defence was on top most of the game,
I hope Curran is OK.
When King gets back if we are well placed, giving Curran a rest would be a good idea.
Kiraz probably the stand out for us, a bit of a scrappy game.
A bit clunky in attack, but still scored 30, and bombed a couple of great chances.
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First half I though we looked a bit cocky and JAC coming of the line in D very suspect in my view- can't imagine CC is coaching that but perhaps he is??
if I was belamy or cleary the grubber behind Addo Carr on a late wide shift would be the go
2nd half very very smart, controlled and patient. Something missing for years perhaps 2004 ,the 90's and the 80's.
Everyone played well. Tracy, kiraz, Xerri ,Burton ,Kikau, preston, Hayward, mann ,Hayes, hughes ,morrin great, sexi controlled barr the intercept , and how good was Curren again- he is machine and fit- I could be wrong but played all but the last 3 minutes - Salmon is someone I have had to change my opinion about - set up that left hand try with good hands and a demon in defence- gee who towrope whenKing returns if indeed hhe does- probably hayes- reed a little off in my view too cocky today and Critter ok
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dogdoctor
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+x+xNot sure this is the right forum for this, but here it goes... What do you guys call a ghost poo? Is it when you look back at the bowl and ita gone passed the S-bend, or is it when you wipe and there is no evidence of it? You talk shit on this forum alm the time... it is a trump turd when you think its gone only to return after the flush
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+xFirst half I though we looked a bit cocky and JAC coming of the line in D very suspect in my view- can't imagine CC is coaching that but perhaps he is?? if I was belamy or cleary the grubber behind Addo Carr on a late wide shift would be the go 2nd half very very smart, controlled and patient. Something missing for years perhaps 2004 ,the 90's and the 80's. Everyone played well. Tracy, kiraz, Xerri ,Burton ,Kikau, preston, Hayward, mann ,Hayes, hughes ,morrin great, sexi controlled barr the intercept , and how good was Curren again- he is machine and fit- I could be wrong but played all but the last 3 minutes - Salmon is someone I have had to change my opinion about - set up that left hand try with good hands and a demon in defence- gee who towrope whenKing returns if indeed hhe does- probably hayes- reed a little off in my view too cocky today and Critter ok According to the stats Curran played 56 mins, off after 29 back on at 54 off again at 76. He might have been injured when he came off, or perhaps just buggered? With the short turn around and a physical Warriors game, I think a game off might help his shoulder. But apparently this time of year many players have that injury and just get a needle. Max King should be back soon, a win against the Warriors and the side at full strength for the last 2 games would be ideal.
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Mick O
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+x+x+x+xWell I hope the warriors play as sh!t next week as hey just did against manly. They could've down is a favour this week... fekk them.. we'll just be great next week and pump em... Warriors with nothing to play for next week. We should beat them easily. Just need to get in front early and keep the pressure on them. They are playing to give SJ a send off in front of passionate home fans. From what I saw of the Fins / Warriors game, we should beat both sides. You are right about the way to beat the Warriors and ideally beat the Fins the same way we beat the Broncos. Play the same game next week and we should win. That game today solidified the run that we are on.
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+xGreat to get a win, Our execution was a bit clunky and they scrabbled well. The Fins were lucky to get 10, our defence was on top most of the game, I hope Curran is OK. When King gets back if we are well placed, giving Curran a rest would be a good idea. Kiraz probably the stand out for us, a bit of a scrappy game. A bit clunky in attack, but still scored 30, and bombed a couple of great chances. Burto was best on ground for me. His running game finally started to show. A real captains knock with the c next to his name.
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+x+xGreat to get a win, Our execution was a bit clunky and they scrabbled well. The Fins were lucky to get 10, our defence was on top most of the game, I hope Curran is OK. When King gets back if we are well placed, giving Curran a rest would be a good idea. Kiraz probably the stand out for us, a bit of a scrappy game. A bit clunky in attack, but still scored 30, and bombed a couple of great chances. Burto was best on ground for me. His running game finally started to show. A real captains knock with the c next to his name. I rewatched the game, it sometimes looks different when you know the result. Both sides played better than I initially thought. The Fins tried to counter our ball movement with fast moving up and in defence. What was impressive was that we expected that and shifted our style of attack to play through them. Curran's shoulder injury definitely needs to be managed . Gus is downplaying it. What could be happening is the needle wearing off. Gutsy player one of many at the club.
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Oh well, it's disappointing Newcastle are useless but at the same time I see the sharts as cannon fodder against he storm.
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Mick O
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+xOh well, it's disappointing Newcastle are useless but at the same time I see the sharts as cannon fodder against he storm. Still a chance. Sharts play Saints in Woolongong. Warriors at home. The Manly in Manly. They could easily drop those two away games. We also could easily win our last three.
But in agreement about Newcastle. Just rubbish from their number seven, who I still have know idea how he makes first grade. So many chances they blew because of stupidity. Worst of all they just look so unfit.
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