What are you talking about?

so you're conflating illegal images  with 'false/disinformation' (judged by whom) as one and the same?

Is this one of the talking points at your local Antifa workshop?

I am not mixing anything. Re-read the sentence, they are two totally different things 

you can save your breath with the childish left antifa blah blah....

It's not an insult. I am a die-hard communist, so far left that I am almost coming out the right side. So far left that even Stalin would think I'm too extreme. If I had my way we'd skip the gulags and just solve problems the easier way. I yearn for the days of a soviet union on steroids. 

However if you don't want to save your breath, you're welcome to please sweet talk me with all the far left marxist stuff you can

if they're two totally different things then why introduce to the discussion in this thread?  can you not stay on topic?

I'm aware of this.  You people are actually a danger to society as you all end up causing violence.  Its the only way you can enforce your 'ideas' onto others as your arguments lack merit.

Ok, lets get back on topic.

What's your take on this bill?

Do you know what commas are for and what the sentence was describing? 

I'm not a fan of it.

Bravo.

A thorough and comprehensive debunking.

Why did this run to 6 pages?

tsf, the fork in the road between Communism/Leftist/Totalitarianism versus Democracy - is the issue of personal freedom.

Of course, in this Fallen world, most people - including you and me - use personal freedoms in a damaging way.

But nonetheless, there is something written on every person's heart that they desire Freedom. That is because that is the way that God designed and Created us to desire freedom. Freedom is the hallmark of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Galatians 5:1 - "For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Thus, true-Christianity sets people free; false-Christianity is characterised by crushing people's freedoms.

This is why Totalitarian and Communist regimes are anti-Christian, and characterised by crushing freedoms - all in the name of helping people.

tsf, just because you say you're Communist, it doesn't have to be that way forever. Many conservatives start off their young years as Leftists, then mature with wisdom and go to the Right. Even I was Left when I was young - although I came to the light sooner than most people. (And I'm not saying the political-Right is the full answer, because they're just as messed up as the Left).

Coming back to the point of this thread: I am against the censorship Bill because it gives the power to a few government bureaucrats to determine what is, and what isn't, misinformation. And they will decide the question of misinformation from their ideology. It is totally opposite to a free-market of ideas where the best reasoning prevails. Rather, it is a westernised version of Stalinism where only the Pravda newspaper is authorised to give information, and anything that contracts Pravda is deemed misinformation by the State.

We are now at a late stage in this transition of Democracy to Communism where people in the UK and US are being jailed for expressing views contrary to the State. Remember, in the recorded history of the world across 6,000 years, we happen to be living at the back end of a few short hundreds of years where there has been freedom. And if you think this freedom will automatically continue, you do not study history.

MOST PEOPLE in history are like tsf and Muz - they want to forcefully silence their critics. WHY? In order to help people. The motive is good. But the method is evil.

Just to be clear, you're against government intervention with social media companies but you're for government intervention when it comes to women's health? 

To take a big picture: when a society is filled with a majority of morally-upright people, the people do these things as a consequence of their moral uprightness. Moral decay is a widely accepted symptom of the fall of once-great civilisations. But after a majority of people adopt the lifestyle of moral decay, no amount of laws can save that civilisation.

I'm speaking in terms of the rise and fall of a civilisation over hundreds of years. We are now at the tail end of the western civilisation characterised by freedom of speech, massive technological advancement (which requires freedom of scientific inquiry, rather than censorship of any scientist who goes against the consensus).

tsf and Muz: take heed of this quote: "It’s easy for all scientists to be in consensus when the ones who disagree are silenced."

And, at this tail end of this western civilisation, the people who are attacking its foundations are those who - in their own demented minds - think they are doing the best to help people. For example, in the Soviet Communist Revolution, it was driven by idealistic, atheistic young people thinking they were doing the best for Russia.

Such people are characterised by crowd-followers, easily manipulated by slogans, because such people inherently do not think deeply. They mock and jeer, rather than engage in a search for truth. (Muz and tsf, if you'd like to meet such people, to the mirror).

Think. In the Communist revolutions, why is it that intellectuals are the ones sent to the Gulags? Because the mob, comprised of people like tsf and Muz, inwardly loathe those people who think and operate from facts and evidence.

murdering a 7 month term baby = "women's health"

yes would suffice. 

I know crazy right! That's seven months of child support the poor bloke has to pay her...right? Cause it's an actual baby. Do they backtrack that stuff? But I guess you believe that the men should be paying child support from the 'second of conception'. No wonder every women is waiting until the day before the baby drops to get the procedure done, they want to milk the last dollar out of blokes possible! Madness

Ladies and Gents, tsf is un-masking the dark soul of Communism. People are treated as meat production. To the communist, if the person is not viable, kill them off before they're born, or kill them off when they're old. This is the mentality that drives the bringing of legislation by Leftist politicians. People like tsf are drawn to Leftist politicians because of the way he thinks, as show in his quote.

Whereas civilisations based on the Judeo-Christian ethic are based on appreciating human life as inherently sacred. That is why Christianity respects every human life.

tsf is the product of a Leftist education industry and a Leftist Media and Entertainment industry. tsf never thought through his worldview. He just went with the crowd he happened to be in during his formative years. Both Right and Left are deeply flawed, and if one trusts the System, it will surely disappoint. The only one Who does not disappoint is the Lord Jesus Christ.

amen brother

keep talking...

Sure. Because that happens all the time. Any retard would know that that sort of thing only happens when there is imminent danger to the mother or the baby or both.

Stop being a fucking idiot.

Grabbed this from online. (Because you know 'sacred'.)


Just to name a few notable instances, God killed:

• Everybody in Sodom and Gomorrah
• The firstborn children of non-Jewish Egyptians
• The Egyptian army when pursuing Moses and the Israelites.
• False prophets, along with their families.
• 14,000 Israeli followers of those prophets
• 24,00 Israelites for sexual immorality
• Up to 50,000 Israelites for looking into the Ark of the Covenant
• 42 youths for making fun of Elisha’s bald head (sent two bears to maul them to death)
• Everybody on Earth (except for one family) in a massive global flood

and

God killed a lot of people in the Bible.

There are 160 separate killing sprees in the Bible for which God is to blame. He either commits them directly, or they are carried out by assistance or approval. For 107 of those, the Holy Bible provides us the number of people that died. If we count all these Holy killings, we end up with a total of 2,821,364 deaths.[1]

However, this doesn't include the 53 other great killings of which the Bible unfortunately leaves us in the dark about how many people exactly died. For example the moment when God decided to drown all life on earth in a flood, except for one human family and a few of all animal species on one boat to repopulate the world again afterwards. According to the estimations of Steve Wells, writer of the book “Drunk With Blood: God’s Killings In The Bible”, God’s kill count comes closer to 25 million when these killings are included as well. [2]

The total amount of killings that Satan committed is 10.

Kill counts by God per book in the Bible:

158 instances of God doling out some 'smiting'. 

https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html?m=1

My favourite is God sending bears to rip 42 children to pieces for ripping the piss out of a follically challenged bloke.

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A few examples of how God puts His victims to death:

God “smote” 1,000,000 Ethiopians:

A few examples of how God puts His victims to death:

God “smote” 1,000,000 Ethiopians:

“So the Lord smote the Ethiopians before Asa, and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled. And Asa and the people that were with him pursued them unto Gerar: and the Ethiopians were overthrown, that they could not recover themselves; for they were destroyed before the Lord, and before his host; and they carried away very much spoil.” 2 Chronicles 14:12-13

God burns two teenagers:

“Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu took their censers, put fire in them and added incense; and they offered unauthorized fire before the Lord, contrary to his command. So fire came out from the presence of the Lord and consumed them, and they died before the Lord.” Leviticus 10:1-2

God demands a whole town to be burned as a burnt offering:

“… you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.” Deuteronomy 13:13-19

God creates a plague:

"Behold, the Lord will bring a great plague on your people, your children, your wives, and all your possessions, and you yourself will have a severe sickness with a disease of your bowels, until your bowels come out because of the disease, day by day.’" 2 Chronicles 21:14-15

God orders human helpers to kill:

“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” Ezekiel 9:5-7

God kills 27,000 Syrians by making a wall fall on them:

“The rest of them escaped to the city of Aphek, where the wall collapsed on twenty-seven thousand of them. And Ben-Hadad fled to the city and hid in an inner room.” 1 Kings 20:30

God makes a lion kill someone:

“Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, “Strike me!” But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, “Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me.” And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.” 1 Kings 20:35-36

God lets two shebears shred 42 children to pieces:

“From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces.” 2 Kings 2:23-24

God truly is a sweet and all-loving god!

“So the Lord smote the Ethiopians before Asa, and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled. And Asa and the people that were with him pursued them unto Gerar: and the Ethiopians were overthrown, that they could not recover themselves; for they were destroyed before the Lord, and before his host; and they carried away very much spoil.” 2 Chronicles 14:12-13

God burns two teenagers:

“Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu took their censers, put fire in them and added incense; and they offered unauthorized fire before the Lord, contrary to his command. So fire came out from the presence of the Lord and consumed them, and they died before the Lord.” Leviticus 10:1-2

God demands a whole town to be burned as a burnt offering:

“… you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.” Deuteronomy 13:13-19

God creates a plague:

"Behold, the Lord will bring a great plague on your people, your children, your wives, and all your possessions, and you yourself will have a severe sickness with a disease of your bowels, until your bowels come out because of the disease, day by day.’" 2 Chronicles 21:14-15

God orders human helpers to kill:

“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” Ezekiel 9:5-7

God kills 27,000 Syrians by making a wall fall on them:

“The rest of them escaped to the city of Aphek, where the wall collapsed on twenty-seven thousand of them. And Ben-Hadad fled to the city and hid in an inner room.” 1 Kings 20:30

God makes a lion kill someone:

“Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, “Strike me!” But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, “Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me.” And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.” 1 Kings 20:35-36

God lets two shebears shred 42 children to pieces:

“From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces.” 2 Kings 2:23-24

God truly is a sweet and all-loving god!

All true Christians are communists :) Welcome to the cause tovarisch.. 

hahahaha this was amazing.... thanks for the chuckle. 

I'm still laughing at being called a 'communist'.

I have my own small consultancy that I've run for 20 years and although I'm a bit of a lefty I do like money. I'm so conflicted.

You MUST be in the Politburo .... hahahahahahahah some of the shit I read on here is really entertaining I have to say. 

Somehow caring about others and wanting the world to be a better place gets conflated with being some sort of 'Stalinist' who wants people thrown in the Gulag.

Apropos of nothing I am currently sitting on a ferry from Bastia, Corsica to Livorno, Italy. Pick up a car from Pisa this afternoon, drive to Trieste, pick the kids up and head into Croatia.

Yewwwwww!

well since you're a retard then you tell me...

how do you actually know what goes on in practice?

you're obviously not aware of how lucrative the baby organ business is and what incentives that provides... 

'baby organ business'.......

There's been a lot of dumb shit written in this forum over the years but this might be the dumbest thing I've ever read here. And that really is saying something because johnsmith also posts here. 

Let me guess you're an adrenochrome conspiracy adherent.
Am I close?