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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xits interesting if you write the players who broke through by u24 birth year by birth year 1984 - 2 1985 - 1 1986 - 0 1987 - 1 1988 - 2 1989 - 3 1990 - 1 1991 - 4 1992 - 4 1993 - 1 1994 - 1 1995 - 1 1996 - 2 1997 - 0 1998 - 3 1999 - 2 2000 - 3 2001 - 2+1? 2002 - 3+? 2003 - 5+? hard to read the tea leaves for a couple more years I guess...we did get a couple of outlier years in 91 and 92 before which is probably due to making youth world cups under jan. Still the 2003 group will probably set an a league era record. I’m super bullish on 2005 & 2006. So many promising talents born those two years. 2005 is a great class. I'm also bullish on 2008 and 2009 but that maybe too early for now. hopefully we cash in on 04 and 07 too. The occasional good year is great but we need consistency I’m confident of the 2003 group that featured in the Olyroos will come through I would ignore the failed u23 campaign because is plenty of good talent there nevertheless. But something tells me the 2005 to 2006 group might be the best of the lot. I guess the big question I'm hoping to see answered is whether this is a purple patch or a new dawn. You really need maybe 7-8 per birth year to having something like the gg We need a Kewell & a Viduka, but they are rare, the GG didn't have 7-8, they had 2 players that had great 1st touch, awareness & great technique, the others were great in what we normally produce, solid hard professionals. I put to you this, Ange coaching Spurs, brings on many Aussie coaches to assist at Spurs & gives them the opportunity. Daniel Levy says do the same with Aussie players, all the Socceroos in our history to pick from, Ange would only pick Viduka & Kewell. They are our only truly world class players, the GG was better than our current lot, but not by that much, none apart from those mentioned above would get into a top 6 team today. Timmy Cahill like Mile Jedinak, were not great skillful players, but they used 100% of their ability to reach a decent level. Paul Okon, Ned Zelic, Aaron Mooy, Mark Bresciano, Tom Rogic all had the skills but never reached their potential (or maybe just not good enough) for one reason or another. I'd say only world class players we produced were Johnston, Dorigo, Bozza, Kewell, Dukes, Cahill and for a brief period Neill (05-08). Dave Mitchell, Okon, Zelic, Schwarzer, Brescha, emo, grella, mooy, rogic were level slightly below. I reckon you'd have to include Schwarzer in the top list. At his peak he just about kept Boro up single handed, plus had some massive games for the Socceroos. Better than Bozza for my money. world class and not world class is quite binary. The GG had quite a few players capable of 6 or more seasons with at least 25 games a season for a big 5 club or a club playing in at least the group stage of the champions league, most had a few more than 6 seasons. We haven't had a single player before or since who achieved that. Not quite world class, but better (with the caveat that the team was wildly unbalanced when you put them together and as a result almost every penalty area entry was aerial!)
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Melbcityguy
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Schwazer is definitely a boro legend shame how he ended there though and went to Fulham. Then randomly at Leicester and Chelsea
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Farrell missed the game due to a knock on the knee the previous day in training. They're still awaiting the results.
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johnszasz
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Rowles and Devlin starting in Europe.
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johnszasz
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Irankunda starting for Bayern II. This is at least better than being wedged between each squad and playing for neither.
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Hearts crediting rowles with a headed goal
Fotmob giving it as an own goal
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Hearts win at death in Azerbaijan.
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huddo
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xits interesting if you write the players who broke through by u24 birth year by birth year 1984 - 2 1985 - 1 1986 - 0 1987 - 1 1988 - 2 1989 - 3 1990 - 1 1991 - 4 1992 - 4 1993 - 1 1994 - 1 1995 - 1 1996 - 2 1997 - 0 1998 - 3 1999 - 2 2000 - 3 2001 - 2+1? 2002 - 3+? 2003 - 5+? hard to read the tea leaves for a couple more years I guess...we did get a couple of outlier years in 91 and 92 before which is probably due to making youth world cups under jan. Still the 2003 group will probably set an a league era record. I’m super bullish on 2005 & 2006. So many promising talents born those two years. 2005 is a great class. I'm also bullish on 2008 and 2009 but that maybe too early for now. hopefully we cash in on 04 and 07 too. The occasional good year is great but we need consistency I’m confident of the 2003 group that featured in the Olyroos will come through I would ignore the failed u23 campaign because is plenty of good talent there nevertheless. But something tells me the 2005 to 2006 group might be the best of the lot. I guess the big question I'm hoping to see answered is whether this is a purple patch or a new dawn. You really need maybe 7-8 per birth year to having something like the gg We need a Kewell & a Viduka, but they are rare, the GG didn't have 7-8, they had 2 players that had great 1st touch, awareness & great technique, the others were great in what we normally produce, solid hard professionals. I put to you this, Ange coaching Spurs, brings on many Aussie coaches to assist at Spurs & gives them the opportunity. Daniel Levy says do the same with Aussie players, all the Socceroos in our history to pick from, Ange would only pick Viduka & Kewell. They are our only truly world class players, the GG was better than our current lot, but not by that much, none apart from those mentioned above would get into a top 6 team today. Timmy Cahill like Mile Jedinak, were not great skillful players, but they used 100% of their ability to reach a decent level. Paul Okon, Ned Zelic, Aaron Mooy, Mark Bresciano, Tom Rogic all had the skills but never reached their potential (or maybe just not good enough) for one reason or another. I'd say only world class players we produced were Johnston, Dorigo, Bozza, Kewell, Dukes, Cahill and for a brief period Neill (05-08). Dave Mitchell, Okon, Zelic, Schwarzer, Brescha, emo, grella, mooy, rogic were level slightly below. You can add Jedinak to the list of world class players. Carried CP through promotion, then single handedly held them up for multiple years. Was voted best player in Asia; was at one point through Opta rankings statistically ranked the 5th best player in Europe, the best Midfielder in Europe, and the best player in the Premier league. He is one of the few who consistently performed on the international stage. Only captain to win silverware, he also carried Australia when he scored the Honduras Hattrick. He is criminally underrated because stats were strongly based around defense. But he knew how to take his opportunities, noting his 100% success rate from the spot.
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huddo
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I'd also add Dorigo, the bloke was basically blocked from playing for Australia, but was good enough to play for England.
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huddo
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+xI'd also add Dorigo, the bloke was basically blocked from playing for Australia, but was good enough to play for England. Disregard. Just saw you had him.
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