Australia WC 2026 qualification thread


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Balin Trev - 16 Oct 2024 9:22 PM
grazorblade - 16 Oct 2024 8:41 PM

I remember after Roos won 2015 Acup Uae protested that Australia shouldn’t be in Asia - so maybe it’s an anti westerner thing?

Didn't realise the UAE had protested against Aus?

Not winning the Asian Cup helps  keep us in Asia.
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Decentric 2 - 16 Oct 2024 11:36 PM
grazorblade - 16 Oct 2024 8:41 PM

I've thought this too.

We seem to get consistent harsh calls, or harsher than  the opposition.

Been pretty consistent. Maybe the copium take is that making it harder for us means we have to be better than we otherwise would have to be to qualify
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grazorblade - 16 Oct 2024 9:09 PM
johnszasz - 16 Oct 2024 8:15 PM

The golden gen were really good at smart fouls and hiding fouls, cahill in particular. Our players are very honorable these days for better or worse. Jedi was the last player we had who was good at fouling to our advantage

Need to shake that naivety honestly. And get on with it if the calls don't go our way. Too often we lose our heads and concentration. 
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Quicky - 16 Oct 2024 11:41 PM
grazorblade - 16 Oct 2024 9:09 PM

Need to shake that naivety honestly. And get on with it if the calls don't go our way. Too often we lose our heads and concentration. 

Watching gg games it was remarkable how good we were at fouling off the ball in ways that would give us an advantage, or foul in a way that prevents a counter attsck but manage to do it quick enough that it was a foul rather than a yellow. Do we want to relearn those skills? Probably hard to outside the big leagues
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The GG were a team of absolute mongrels looking back now. All of Cahill, Grella, Popa, Moore, chippers, Tony Vid, Emo and Jedi were all schooled in the dark arts ... go back a bit further and Tiatto and Muscat were the absolute Kings. I remember teams in the late nineties early 2000s literally being scarred to play us for fear of injury. 
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Bunch of Hacks - 16 Oct 2024 11:55 PM
The GG were a team of absolute mongrels looking back now. All of Cahill, Grella, Popa, Moore, chippers, Tony Vid, Emo and Jedi were all schooled in the dark arts ... go back a bit further and Tiatto and Muscat were the absolute Kings. I remember teams in the late nineties early 2000s literally being scarred to play us for fear of injury. 

Cahill would always make a yard of space with a little nudge, off line a poster mentioned he also did little steps on peoples toes. Because it was off the ball it would be no foul

Japan were also good at fouling us off the ball so that when we counter attacked there would be one less support player. Even if the foul was called, it still advantages japan because a deadball in your own half is less threatening than a counter
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Brenton is always very knowledgeable about this. Is it the AFC regulation that no match may take place on a pitch that's been used for an event within the last or so days?

Just wondering if there are any indications for where the Japan home game will be? You'd think Stadium Australia on 'rotation' and size. NRL schedule out soon for some clarity. MCG no thanks. They're all horrible for football really. Hate round grounds. 

Allianz would create a FOMO and drive sales while the Olympic stadium would get around 65k but leaves a lot of empty seats and something less of an atmosphere. 
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https://x.com/BeGriffis/status/1846207729288831391?t=8q1dkBcALhQKIEOTyQO8zw&s=19

What an interesting and excellent graph about the game. 
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Our away passes in final third has nothing in the box. It's really that bad. The game control wave is interesting and accurate.

I felt the final 10min went quickly as we had a decent amount of slowing it and was glad to see it was nearly 90. The early game control was true too when we started to look comfortable. 
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johnszasz - 17 Oct 2024 7:59 AM
Our away passes in final third has nothing in the box. It's really that bad. The game control wave is interesting and accurate.

I felt the final 10min went quickly as we had a decent amount of slowing it and was glad to see it was nearly 90. The early game control was true too when we started to look comfortable. 

yep - barring the great defensive effort the rest was ordinary to say the least - and shows not being able to retain possession more than 3/4 pass's.
I feel we are "enlightenned" holding out Japan surprisingly considering our dour performances against lesser NT's the last year or so.
I also don't think Japan went at us 110% imo, at times I thought they were passive for they are that above us, as some mentioned we expected being ripped and tbh should have been, they weren't on their game as good as I expect.
With that much possession they only created 11 shots, 4 on target, compare other NT/Clubs with that much possession shots get over 20+.
Our attack was pretty useless/blunt, non exsistant, 1 shot not on target says it all.
We are miles off - I think we are being clouded due to avoiding a expected shellacking.

Saudi @ home will be interesting viewing.


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I'm about 32 mins into watching a replay. I'm compiling relevant stats - Defensive Half passes, Attacking Half passes, balls into pen box, shots, shots on target, keeper saves, keeper interceptions, etc.

At this stage 32 mins, I just can't get over how well Geria has played.  It is hard to remember a player going straight into the Socceroos from the AL with only one previous cap, and playing so well. He reads the game well, communicates well with his teammates, makes timely intercepts, is composed on the ball. His challenges are well timed ( reminds me of Milligan), and knows when to make the challenge and not make a challenge. His  defensive positioning is good.

Geria seems to immediately be on the same wave length as Souttar, and  communicates well as part of a team unit. In the last few games,  overall Geria has played considerably better than Rowles ( who I've always been a huge fan of) and EPL player, Burgess.

Maybe when Ange first selected Franjic and Wilkinson for the Socceroos, they did well immediately too? I can't remember. How can a player play this well at 31 years of age and not be considered previously?

The other surprise is Luke Brattan. Yes he doesn't cover enough ground to break up Japanese attacks, when Aus is off the ball, but his body shape and quick footwork in receiving balls and playing them on,  fast handling speed, is exquisite. It just didn't happen enough. A few of the rapidfire passing and moving exchanges amongst McGree, Hrustic and Brattan, were fantastic. Once again they just didn't happen enough and Hrustic and Brattan struggled to close down space and defend off the ball as effectively as Metcalfe.

In terms of passing technique and handling speed, Brattan is one of the best in the team - if not the best for the team that played Japan. When I watched  LB play for Melb City years ago, he was good at winning 1v1 challenges and contests, but he didn't  get to  enough of them.

Geria and Brattan have had to face the most formidable opponent  in Asian to make their debuts, or just second/ third game.

Hrustic looks frustrated, as he was starved of service, and  he was hacked a lot,  which I believe other teams get away with a lot more than us in Asia. Look at Goodwin's soft yellow.


The problem in  the game  so far at 32 mins, apart from two strong runs by Bos,  is we've barely got into the Japanese pen box. Whereas they are constantly entering ours. 

Losing Goodwin against Saudi is a problem, as he provides a lot of assists and pen box entries.



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LFC. - 17 Oct 2024 8:53 AM
johnszasz - 17 Oct 2024 7:59 AM

yep - barring the great defensive effort the rest was ordinary to say the least - and shows not being able to retain possession more than 3/4 pass's.
I feel we are "enlightenned" holding out Japan surprisingly considering our dour performances against lesser NT's the last year or so.
I also don't think Japan went at us 110% imo, at times I thought they were passive for they are that above us, as some mentioned we expected being ripped and tbh should have been, they weren't on their game as good as I expect.
With that much possession they only created 11 shots, 4 on target, compare other NT/Clubs with that much possession shots get over 20+.
Our attack was pretty useless/blunt, non exsistant, 1 shot not on target says it all.
We are miles off - I think we are being clouded due to avoiding a expected shellacking.

Saudi @ home will be interesting viewing.

Endorse most of this post, LFC.

One other strength was the mental concentration for extended periods, because we had so little ball - only 29% possession. Essentially, we held our shape.  Instead of intensive Squeezing, like Japan did, we preferred to be more languid in closing down space, focusing on maintaining team shape - 10 metres distance between players within the lines, and between the lines. 

So we didn't swarm on the ball in  Defensive Transitions, like Japan did superbly (risking losing defensive shape if the team doesn't win the ball quickly in a DT), but Aus nearly always maintained  defensive shape.



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Decentric 2 - 17 Oct 2024 9:23 AM
LFC. - 17 Oct 2024 8:53 AM

Endorse most of this post, LFC.

One other strength was the mental concentration for extended periods, because we had so little ball - only 29% possession. Essentially, we held our shape.  Instead of intensive Squeezing, like Japan did, we preferred to be more languid in closing down space, focusing on maintaining team shape - 10 metres distance between players within the lines, and between the lines. 

So we didn't swarm on the ball in  Defensive Transitions, like Japan did superbly (risking losing defensive shape if the team doesn't win the ball quickly in a DT), but Aus nearly always maintained  defensive shape.



D2 - it was pretty obvious Poppa hammered keeping the shape, not rocket science when your playing a opponent way above your abilities.
Keep it tight, let them have the lines but crowd the centres.
As I've mentioned before in all my years supporting our Roos, when we play a higher level NT we put in - thats us, our game for we're hardly ever rated as Favs - we have always been a robust defensive unit so this game I expected it.
Carrying on from your following watching replay post, yep Geria fitted like a glove next to Souttar, as far as I'm concerned he's won that position hands down.
Better than Rowles to me, he was a beast - reading the play, movement and passing.
Once Cercati is back we have a sound backline with Bos over the left side.

Thankyou you backed my comments re Bratten, others panned him but as mentioned baptism of fire against the always very mobile Japs he had a pass mark from me, I also think Poppa had this in his plan, watch how it went but put on a younger fresher Yazbek for 2nd period.
Yes Hrustic most times was recieving ball facing our half, chopped down and got frustrated, this is where Poppa errored, subbed him way too late.


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It really irks me how some people don't get how good a draw against Japan was or how hard these away games can be. To many people playing FIFA and only caring about star ratings and shit 
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johnszasz - 17 Oct 2024 7:29 AM
Brenton is always very knowledgeable about this. Is it the AFC regulation that no match may take place on a pitch that's been used for an event within the last or so days?

Just wondering if there are any indications for where the Japan home game will be? You'd think Stadium Australia on 'rotation' and size. NRL schedule out soon for some clarity. MCG no thanks. They're all horrible for football really. Hate round grounds. 

Allianz would create a FOMO and drive sales while the Olympic stadium would get around 65k but leaves a lot of empty seats and something less of an atmosphere. 

It is an AFC regulation - I can't remember the exact time frames. From memory it's like 3 days prior and 1 or 2 days afterwards.
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Good day all who have posted  in this thread  in the last 4 pages.

I've listed all names who've posted with good intent.

This thread  has  been started in Gren and Gold Forum.

Go to the thread in FTBL Forum Australian Section 'New Forum Is Live' in Aus football and register. All welcome.

Years ago in about 2007, The World Game Forum was going the same way as this one. Spam coming, little contact from site owners, not much interest in maintaining this forum, functions not working as well because owners  don't spend money on maintenance / updating  software, assurances it will be kept going with functions improved, at this stage no plans to close FTBL Forum, , etc. I've had a fair bit of communication with the  owner who is polite and says nice things, but nothing has happened to indicate this site will be updated and reconditioned ( like a car).

Grazor and Pasquali ( site owner) are already there.

Huddo might be too. He joined the temporary one than Pasquali set up.

These guys have posted here in WC Qualification thread 2026  in the last 4 pages. Please join the new forum, in case this one just disappears one day. All welcome.
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Balin Trev - 16 Oct 2024 9:22 PM
I remember after Roos won 2015 Acup Uae protested that Australia shouldn’t be in Asia - so maybe it’s an anti westerner thing?

I'm not sure about UAE, but I do recall Kuwait being vocal about it. 

And it has always been West Asian referee's that hate us. 

Decentric 2 - 17 Oct 2024 9:19 AM
Geria seems to immediately be on the same wave length as Souttar, and  communicates well as part of a team unit. In the last few games,  overall Geria has played considerably better than Rowles ( who I've always been a huge fan of) and EPL player, Burgess.

Where is Rowles heading in his career? I rated him pretty highly when he was in the AL, but he’s in his third year at Hearts now… He should have moved on to a bigger club by now. Is he stagnating? Did he take too long to leave Australia?

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Feed_The_Brox - 18 Oct 2024 8:15 AM
Balin Trev - 16 Oct 2024 9:22 PM
I remember after Roos won 2015 Acup Uae protested that Australia shouldn’t be in Asia - so maybe it’s an anti westerner thing?

I'm not sure about UAE, but I do recall Kuwait being vocal about it. 

And it has always been West Asian referee's that hate us. 

Decentric 2 - 17 Oct 2024 9:19 AM
Geria seems to immediately be on the same wave length as Souttar, and  communicates well as part of a team unit. In the last few games,  overall Geria has played considerably better than Rowles ( who I've always been a huge fan of) and EPL player, Burgess.

Where is Rowles heading in his career? I rated him pretty highly when he was in the AL, but he’s in his third year at Hearts now… He should have moved on to a bigger club by now. Is he stagnating? Did he take too long to leave Australia?

Good question about Rowles. I'm going to try and answer it in the same thread started in the new forum  in the next few days- the WC 2026 Campaign. Hopefully, you join us over there, FTB.



There are about 20-30 odd of us from Inside Sport on Green and Gold FC now. The forum software works better  than this one too. No Thai spambots either.  I think Bowden has been working his butt off  deleting them here, but there are none on the new forum. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4MPJmqhdY

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SUBWAY SOCCEROOS’ SQUAD l NOVEMBER FIFA MEN’S INTERNATIONAL WINDOW

NameCurrent Club, Country‘A’ Caps (GoalsJunior Club (Member Federation/Country)
Max BALARDNAC Breda, Netherlands0Maccabi Hokoah FC / Football NSW
Aziz BEHICHMelbourne City FC, Australia75 (2)Meadow Park SC / Football VIC
Brandon BORRELLOWestern Sydney Wanderers FC, Australia11 (2)Modbury Jets SC / Football SA
Jordy BOSK.V.C Westerlo, Belgium17 (1)Hoppers Crossing SC / Football VIC
Martin BOYLEHibernian FC, Scotland30 (9)Lewis United FC / Montrose FC (Scotland)
Cameron BURGESSIpswich Town FC, England11 (0)ECU Joondalup / Football West
Anthony CACERESSydney FC, Australia0Marconi Stallions / Football NSW
Milos DEGENEKFK Crvena zvezda, Serbia45 (1)Blacktown City FC / Football NSW
Mitchell DUKEFC Machida Zelvia, Japan44 (12)Liverpool Rangers SC / Football NSW
Joe GAUCI (Gk)Aston Villa FC, England4 (0)Cumberland United FC / Football SA
Jason GERIAMelbourne Victory FC, Australia3 (0)Weston Molonglo Football Club / Capital Football
Craig GOODWINAl Wehda FC, Saudi Arabia29 (6)Munno Para City FC / Football SA
Rhyan GRANTSydney FC, Australia21 (1)Canowindra Juniors / Football NSW
Ajdin HRUSTICU.S. Salernitana 1919, Italy29 (3)Heatherton United SC / Football VIC
Jackson IRVINEFC St Pauli, Germany74 (11)Ringwood City SC / Football VIC
Paul IZZO (Gk)Randers FC, Denmark0Campbelltown City SC / Football SA
Hayden MATTHEWSSydney FC, Australia0Sydney FC Academy / Football NSW
Riley McGREEMiddlesbrough FC, England27 (1)Gawler Eagles FC / Football SA
Lewis MILLERHibernian FC, Scotland8 (1)Pittwater RSL FC / Football NSW
Aiden O’NEILLStandard de Liège, Belgium15 (0)University of Queensland Football Club / Football QLD
Kye ROWLESHeart of Midlothian FC, Scotland24 (1)Palm Beach SC / Football QLD
Mat RYANAS Roma, Italy95 (0)Blacktown City FC / Football NSW
Harry SOUTTARSheffield United FC, England34 (11)Brechin City Boys Club (Scotland)
Nishan VELUPILLAYMelbourne Victory FC, Australia2 (1)Endeavour United SC / Football VIC
Patrick YAZBEKNashville SC, United States2 (0)Austral Soccer Club / Football NSW
Kusini YENGIPortsmouth FC, England9 (4)Fulham United FC / Football SA

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SUBWAY SOCCEROOS’ SQUAD l NOVEMBER FIFA MEN’S INTERNATIONAL WINDOW

NameCurrent Club, Country‘A’ Caps (GoalsJunior Club (Member Federation/Country)
Max BALARDNAC Breda, Netherlands0Maccabi Hokoah FC / Football NSW
Aziz BEHICHMelbourne City FC, Australia75 (2)Meadow Park SC / Football VIC
Brandon BORRELLOWestern Sydney Wanderers FC, Australia11 (2)Modbury Jets SC / Football SA
Jordy BOSK.V.C Westerlo, Belgium17 (1)Hoppers Crossing SC / Football VIC
Martin BOYLEHibernian FC, Scotland30 (9)Lewis United FC / Montrose FC (Scotland)
Cameron BURGESSIpswich Town FC, England11 (0)ECU Joondalup / Football West
Anthony CACERESSydney FC, Australia0Marconi Stallions / Football NSW
Milos DEGENEKFK Crvena zvezda, Serbia45 (1)Blacktown City FC / Football NSW
Mitchell DUKEFC Machida Zelvia, Japan44 (12)Liverpool Rangers SC / Football NSW
Joe GAUCI (Gk)Aston Villa FC, England4 (0)Cumberland United FC / Football SA
Jason GERIAMelbourne Victory FC, Australia3 (0)Weston Molonglo Football Club / Capital Football
Craig GOODWINAl Wehda FC, Saudi Arabia29 (6)Munno Para City FC / Football SA
Rhyan GRANTSydney FC, Australia21 (1)Canowindra Juniors / Football NSW
Ajdin HRUSTICU.S. Salernitana 1919, Italy29 (3)Heatherton United SC / Football VIC
Jackson IRVINEFC St Pauli, Germany74 (11)Ringwood City SC / Football VIC
Paul IZZO (Gk)Randers FC, Denmark0Campbelltown City SC / Football SA
Hayden MATTHEWSSydney FC, Australia0Sydney FC Academy / Football NSW
Riley McGREEMiddlesbrough FC, England27 (1)Gawler Eagles FC / Football SA
Lewis MILLERHibernian FC, Scotland8 (1)Pittwater RSL FC / Football NSW
Aiden O’NEILLStandard de Liège, Belgium15 (0)University of Queensland Football Club / Football QLD
Kye ROWLESHeart of Midlothian FC, Scotland24 (1)Palm Beach SC / Football QLD
Mat RYANAS Roma, Italy95 (0)Blacktown City FC / Football NSW
Harry SOUTTARSheffield United FC, England34 (11)Brechin City Boys Club (Scotland)
Nishan VELUPILLAYMelbourne Victory FC, Australia2 (1)Endeavour United SC / Football VIC
Patrick YAZBEKNashville SC, United States2 (0)Austral Soccer Club / Football NSW
Kusini YENGIPortsmouth FC, England9 (4)Fulham United FC / Football SA

Squad seems light on wingers, however early signs Popa is picking somewhat more on form and performances compared to Arnold IMO.
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