But I must admit to being secretly delighted to see how a McGarry + Cam Edwards combination goes. With BON or Evans as backup on the bench.

Would everyone prefer us take Carney or blood another youth player?

If we could sign a dynamic midfielder like Miller/Cordoba and have a serious run at the title/GF I think I would prefer to give youth a shot.
Nagai really hasn't looked nearly as impressive as last year so I feel if we could cement a new LB we could then slot Jamo behind or in front of when he has recovered and have a solid left flank.

Carney would be a great signing.

Slot him in at left back. If he's not good, we always have Woodcock.
But I think the real value of Carney is next season, when we'll more than likely lose Nagai. Having Dave out on that left wing would be great. Both he and Jamieson are fantastic at close range passing interchanges that release runners, and I think together, they'd rip teams apart.

Give Woodcock a chance first, he might turn out to be up to it.

I am thinking maybe Carney on a 10 game guest stint or something at best with option to sign him after.
Give woodcock/Oneill/Clisby a go and have Carney there as an option.

It's hard to say without seeing Woodcock. But i'd rather play Woodcock LB and use the injury replacement for the midfield. But that might be risky, especially if Woodcock gets injured and we have no replacement.

I think Nagai just prefers the left, shame Sciola isn't right footed. I think both players just play better on the left side. Maybe try Nagai on the left and push Sciola into the centre? I don't think Edwards is doing such a bad job though, just has to stop making mistakes.

Perth jay, you didn't read the bit where I said he'd be backup to Woodcock, did you? Woodcock gets first bite, Carney comes into team, up to Ali Ed if we use him. You want a backup NYL LB to backup Woodcock? No thanks, we're not that desperate and it's stupid. Carney is best available LB free agent, unless there's a state level player tearing it up we can use, but for all his faults, Carney is still a near-Roos level player. Good enough to backup in MLS, then he's good enough to backup A-League.

Carney would only be IR, for as lo as Jamo is out, doubt if we got him he'd stay or be re-signed lol.

Andy Todd, my post wasn't directed at your post in any way shape or form.
It was just a general post directed to people reading this thread.

And I hardly think having another youth player ready to go is stupid. Look how far our squad is stretched at the moment. One more injury accross the back and we then have 0 backups. And we are a little bit desperate as at the moment we have 2 full time CB's (pants and thwaite) a part time CB (Gallas with his injuries) 1 RB (Davies who is doing exceptionally well) 0 LB so saying its stupid to have a youth player ready is ridiculous.

And I seriously doubt we are going to get Carney after Sage paying for Gallas, and Also Adelaide being without a LB now that Cassio is out.

No Carney please. Don't 100% agree with the Carney hate, but when you're averaging level than 10 games per club there is something wrong there that I don't want brought to Glory.

The more I look at it, the more Burns' ban is a joke.
And he'd been doing so well with limited cards this season.

Right FFA, where's the Calvano decision?
Supposed to be decided finally tonight, nearly 3 weeks after the offence, and been put off for far too long already. And based on the 'Danny touching the Ref' penalty, this guy will not be seen again this season at a bare minimum.
But it is Sydney FC, so it's going to show what substance is in this organisation.

And I see we're now back to the 2 spots + a 3rd qualifying spot for the Asian Champions League. Was this what it originally was - till Glory clinched a spot - so they dropped one position, now we've reverted back?
They're all against us, I tell ya.

Just concur, surely NOT Carney and pleasingly, we surely won't be. The days of Fergie, Mitch and co are long behind and Ali and his philosophy clear plumps for youth and dynamism, ESPECIALLY on those flanks. Experience in the core, youth and dynamism on the flanks - clear formula for success.

Risdon out, opportunity for young Davies. Jamieson out now, opportunity for Woodcock it seems.

And in Burns' absence, opportunity for McGarry I guess. McGarry-C.Edwards partnership could work a treat - Guess we'll see? Or heck, is O'Neill a chance? What an interesting 'test' this is!

Glory haven't had the best of luck with injuries and absences, but no better motivator than adversity!

Ali and the boys at Glory - maintain that rage! We have a major bee in our bonnet, chip on our shoulder, and only way to rectify it is by upsetting that apple cart, the FFA's status quo, on the field. They clearly don't care for Glory and rather they not succeed, not be in the finals etc... so let's defy them!


Also, Carney's a good winger, always was, never was a left back - if he comes back here (Here, to the A-League), he should be a rip roaring winger as he was when he was last here, with SFC! :cool:

Edited by gloryperth: 28/11/2013 03:41:30 AM

BTW Heads up over 'the maligned' Ryan Edwards! I was really impressed with his input late game against Central Coast Mariners. I only caught the second half, but he was our main outlet playing many positive, quick passing and productive vertical balls in. SURE - THAT'S HIS POSSIE, granted, BUT he was executing to the demands of the role pretty well and the fact he WAS our more productive outlet going forward was a testament to how he's growing in his role - he was a key player infact!

Very promising and I think we're JUST starting to see what this boy can produce in the role. Let's hope he continues to grow in confidence and he really starts to create things for Glory and be another to light up this A-League with his talents.

And FTR unlike his bro Cameron and EVEN Jamie MacLaren, this boy is STILL with his English/Championship-based, club! I think some forget he's ONLY a loanee and clearly, unlike some other young boys, his club still value him enough to have him on their books. He's CLEARLY a talent and at this rate Glory will be loathed to let him go back, but he will hopefully, infact, no doubt, go back a better, more confident player on the back of this valuable senior experience and hopefully that benefits him in good stead and standing on his return to Reading! :cool:

BTW Just as comparison, relatively speaking, late sub McGarry was relatively useless going forward, so R.Edwards was clearly, still, the most productive, stand out, option in transition, going forward. Bad timing with the injury (Third sub used) and real bugger conceding that last second goal. But no better player to be conceding a late strike to, than one of THE leading young strikers in Australia at the moment, in Mitch Duke. Still a real bugger though, we deserved the point, atleast! :x



:lol:

Edited by gloryperth: 28/11/2013 04:12:19 AM

Gallas reported to be out for close to 3 weeks.

Youth going to have to shine now.

I know it won't happen, but I hope Pants is dropped. He's been pretty awful this year IMHO.

I am not going to say Pants is a great player, But I feel he has done enough to warrant a starting spot. With Clisby on the bench as back up/game time.

I feel putting Clisby/ any other youth against the roars attacking half could be very dangerous, and Pants has those games where he can be unbeatable.
We just have to hope for one of them games this weekend.

Brisbane are definitely a team where, if we're going to play them, I wish we had more than 1/4 of our starting defenders available...

Edited by Nate: 28/11/2013 11:38:25 AM

Yeah especially with the form that they are in.

[size=6]SPINELESS[/size] - how long can they drag this on for.


Meanwhile, the Sky Blues have been privately told not to select Tiago Calvano for the match against his former club.

The FFA's disciplinary committee – which heard the case last week – is still determining the length of the ban they will hit the Brazilian with for obstructing the arm of referee Peter Green.

[size=2]Elsewhere, Australian whistleblower Ben Williams was this week named as the best referee in Asia at the AFC's annual awards night in Kuala Lumpur.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sky-blues-rollercoaster-bearing-fruit-for-coach-frank-farina-20131127-2ya2w.html#ixzz2ltpQfl9q[/size]

Srsly. FFS FFA.

Woeful. What a fucking farce.

Yes having another youth player is stupid. I don't know who the backup NYL team LB is but being the NYL team's backup LB he would be the very definition of "raw". I don't want Woodcock being backed up all season by some kid who's completely not ready to make the step up. The need for a backup LB is paramount because as you say. we're light on defenders. With Jamo, Risdon + Gallas down, if we have one more injury we're left with no more backup outside the starting 16. Eg Panta gets a red, then the team is (Davies, Thwaite-O'Neill-Woodcock B: Clisby).

So it's a case of who's available and guess what? Here's Carney. Sage wouldn't be opening up the cheque book, he (Carney) couldn't demand much, shouldn't be offered much and any cost would be covered by insurance because of Jamo's injury. That's why the FFA created 'injury replacement'.

Adelaide have Zullo, they played him there at the seat of the season.

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Woeful. What a fucking farce.[/quote]

Even more so now.
Sorry, you can not grab Referees - End of story.
What a complete embarrassment. Who can challenge this decision, far too lenient?
Can the Referees body or whatever challenge it?

Oh surprise, Sydney have accepted the penalty.


Sydney FC defender Tiago Calvano has been handed an eight-game ban by Football Federation Australia for making contract with a referee.

The Brazilian grabbed match official Peter Green during the Sky Blues' home game against the Melbourne Victory in Round 5, knocking a red card out of his hand as he attempted to dismiss Marc Warren.

Tiago, 32, was later banned for two games for striking Archie Thompson in the same match, which Sydney won 3-2.

However, he will sit out a further eight matches for a 'gesture' consisting of 'making deliberate contact with the referee' which was deemed 'at the very least offensive and insulting to his authority', according to an FFA disciplinary committee.

An additional four-match ban will be imposed if Tiago receives a straight red card at any stage during the remainder of the regular A-League season or finals campaign.

Comparisons have been made between the incident involving Tiago and the nine-month suspension, reduced from 12, imposed on Perth Glory's Danny Vukovic in 2008, with the crucial difference being that the Sydney FC man, as opposed to the goalkeeper, was not deemed to have struck a referee.

While disappointed to be without their central defender for a large chunk of the season, Sky Blues CEO Tony Pignata said the club accept the ruling.

"In hindsight Tiago admits he made a wrong decision and accepts his punishment. However we still believe what he did was in no way malicious," Pignata said in a statement on Thursday.

"He is a passionate man by his nature and plays the game in that way."

Tiago will next be available for the Sky Blues in their round 16 Australia Day clash, ironically against the Victory at Etihad Stadium.

Assuming Woodcock comes into LB, we still have Clisby as cover, and there's also Dean Evans and Brandon O'Neill who can cover CB and possibly even FB. Risdon is coming back at some point, and hopefully so will Gallas.

I think Ali should stick to his guns and blood the young blokes, even if it means dropping a few more points. This year is supposed to be the development year, so its the best time to test them out.

Basically this.


And according to FFA glory ate doing just that.

Ins: 11. Adrian ZAHRA (promoted), 15. Isaka CERNAK (promoted), 25. Riley WOODCOCK (promoted), 2. Jack CLISBY (promoted), 3.Brandon O’NEILL (promoted)

Carney can demand what ever he wants through his agent regardless of what people think of him.

Injury replacement funds only cover what the injured player costs I'm pretty certain so if Carney wants more then we won't even consider him.

I might be wrong regarding injury cover though and I can't be bothered looking it up.

So why would you be offering Carney so much? I didn't realise you rated him so much.

#-o
Where did I say I rated him highly or would offer him a high sum???
Read what I actually typed.

He can demand what he wants as its his decision. No where did I mention he was worth any particular value high/medium/low

If I thought so highly of him why the hell would I suggest we use youth in place of him???

Edited by perthjay85: 28/11/2013 11:14:49 PM

I don't know, that's the confusing thing about what your writing. No one said anywhere about offering him more than what would be allowed as an injury replacement in fact I'm sure In my original post I said offer him the minimum. You're the one saying he wants more.

I said he can demand what ever he wants. I never said he wants a lot. Nothing confusing about that.

I would rather youth over him every day of the week. Worked well for us in the past and can only benefit us in the future.

Hats the point I'm making, what youth is there after Woodcock! There's blooding youth and there's blooding a 17year old no name who's had 0 years in the youth side.

It's completely illogical.