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Just saw a screen cap of Vuka swiping Brattan in the throat or somewhere abouts. No wonder one of you said people your side of the ground were very disappointed in Vuka's behaviour running up there! I was other side of the ground so the action up there was hard to make out, but that's extremely disappointing indeed and lucky to escape punishment - so far.
As Joffa said that thread - Jacob Burns FC in action, indeed. Vuka may be a great goalkeeper, aside from his tendency to go mental now and again, but it will be a relief the sooner we rid Glory of Jacob Burns FC, the better Perth Glory FC will be for it, I must say!
Jacob Burns FC is filled with irresponsible thugs who commit irresponsible acts which can jeopardise the team. Be they through selfishness, ill-discipline, bruised egos, brain snaps or whatever. Jamie Harnwell had heart and what not, but the local legends didn't or wouldn't do the kinds of things that these guys who really couldn't give two-hoots where they were playing, do. Apathy and self-interest etc... A lad genuinely for the team, who has a passion for the club, they don't jeopardise it and it's competitiveness for their own gain or self-interest!
Edwards' clean out must be completed. Burns, Cernak, McGarry, Dodd, expensive Smeltz and some others, they can all go and good riddance. There is class, local class, aswell as better VISAs, waiting to be snapped up, keen for A-League game time, lead by Rostyn Griffiths and others - let's get them on-board!
Also, those who brought up the Wildcats crowds - Just reading about the average crowds of their fellow NBL clubs and it makes for a sobering reality check. 2-4k crowds for the rest. Positively paltry. The Wildcats are most certainly an anomaly and their playing in the brand, spanking new Arena of 'public curiosity' and even, now, it seems, 'appeal' is certainly a bring drawcard. It's literally Perth's premier Arena now and the investment and design reflects thus. Glory aren't going half bad either though and even though I saw plenty Wildcats shirts about the place, the 11k crowd wasn't much less than the 12-13k they drew at Perth Arena that evening. Can only be pleased for the Wildcats AND Perth Arena, for that matter - it's good to see. But Glory or we shouldn't feel too bad, knowing the quality of the wider league we're in and the kinds of crowds and atmosphere our rivals draw. Hopefully some of that like portion of the Wanderer's famed support, can make it over hear and help again reflect the appeal of this game and even the uniqueness of it's crowds and atmosphere.
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Eastern Glory
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Does anyone know if Burnsy has any FFA licenses yet? He really strikes me as the kind of guy who could do well as manager.
He's worked with a lot of coaches at a lot of different levels and is clearly the kind of guy who commands respect even amongst large groups of talented, egotistical pro sportsmen.
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Eastern Glory wrote:Does anyone know if Burnsy has any FFA licenses yet? He really strikes me as the kind of guy who could do well as manager.
He's worked with a lot of coaches at a lot of different levels and is clearly the kind of guy who commands respect even amongst large groups of talented, egotistical pro sportsmen. http://au.linkedin.com/pub/jake-burns/53/474/896Quote:Jake Burns' Summary
Dedicated to making a positive contribution through my vast experience in the field of sport. I'm passionate & confident about helping people develop and reach levels of excellence- as well as assisting teams/companies achieve collective goals.
Jake Burns' Experience
Pro football/soccer player Perth glory F.C. 2009 – Present (5 years)
Player/Captain Director Jacob Burns Summer 6 A-Side Competition October 2013 – October 2013 (1 month) rosalie park. subiaco. perth w.a
Day to day running of the competition, delegation of roles and responsibilities. Promotion & sponsorship of the organization. Pro football player Leeds utd FC,Barnsley FC,Wisla Krakow FC,Bucharest Utd FC. 1999 – 2009 (10 years)
Professional Player Professional Player Sydney United FC Privately Held; 51-200 employees; Sports industry 1995 – 1999 (4 years)
Jake Burns' Courses
Independent Coursework Certificate sport/admin traineeship FFA C coaching licence (4065991) FFA-PFA Diploma of Buisness
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Eastern Glory
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C huh? So he hasn't really pursued it. I think he should.
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GloryB
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yeh, he could start right away, as an assistant somewhere, that would be great (for us)
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The West Australian today announced Perth have agreed to sign 27 year old Centre Attacking Midfielder Nebojsa Marinkovic until the end of next season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClGrmSShwkgWatched the highlights video of him and jesus christ, he can strike a deadball (Even scores direct from a corner) Looks like an absolute hidden gem. Great pickup
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Eastern Glory
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JazzKillick wrote:The West Australian today announced Perth have agreed to sign 27 year old Centre Attacking Midfielder Nebojsa Marinkovic until the end of next season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClGrmSShwkgWatched the highlights video of him and jesus christ, he can strike a deadball (Even scores direct from a corner) Looks like an absolute hidden gem. Great pickup Who the f*ck picked the song for that video? I had to stop after two minutes :lol: but yeah wow... He can strike a ball alright.
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Scoll
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GloryPerth wrote:Madaschi would be a primary CB option and THAT'S why having he, Thwaite AND Gallas in the rotation would be crazy. But if one of the latter two are departing (End of season), then that's more logical? This has been mentioned a couple of times now, Thwaite signed an extension until the end of the 2015/16 season and is not going anywhere. Gallas is a one-season deal and I don't expect that will be renewed, hence the interest in Madaschi.
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JazzKillick wrote:The West Australian today announced Perth have agreed to sign 27 year old Centre Attacking Midfielder Nebojsa Marinkovic until the end of next season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClGrmSShwkgWatched the highlights video of him and jesus christ, he can strike a deadball (Even scores direct from a corner) Looks like an absolute hidden gem. Great pickup It's all good and fine showing all these goals he scored, but that';s not the issue. He needs to be able to control and pass a ball and bring other into the game controlling the MF.
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Shanagar wrote: And Berisha. You would go a long way to see a more disgraceful front on cheap shot challenge than what he did in the first 30 seconds tonight. A real pity Refs let everyone get away with this sort of stuff in the first 15 minutes, usually unpenalised with a bit of a stern talking to only. It seemed to take a concerted effort from the players to convince the Ref that although someone is half dead, you are actually allowed to hand out an early yellow card. (His second card should have come with his own theatrical rolling around on the ground after a McGarry tackle, only to jump up and run off the field). The second challenge after 30 minutes was another spineless cheap shot, and clearly the intent was to sort out Thwaites tonight. The FFA will no doubt impose a much more hefty penalty than the standard 1 match ban, especially given the 2 match ban Burns was recently given (although 1 and 1/2 of his was probably for stupidity and therefore warranted).
Jesus. Get over the Berisha hate. It makes some Perth Glory supporters look like absolute dickheads. How about trying to see the game for what it was? Berisha's first challenge wasn't good and he was booked. Ref was right there and gave the yellow. It wasn't studs up or dangerous, which would warrant a red. It was a clear use of an errant elbow, which isnt good and I hate to see it. BTW Thwaite seemed fine immediately afterwards, as if the yellow card was a cure for all that ailed him. It's funny you talk about 'cheapshots' when you have Burns as captain. It was interesting reading his pre-match tweet about him having his best kung fu moves ready for the game. Berisha's second booking was not really a malicious tackle. It was, however, reckless. He went for the ball with a high foot and tried to pull out, but it was a fair yellow and he was rightly sent off. To suggest that he deserved a yellow for his theatrical rolling is a joke. He was well and truly slaughtered by McGarry. To speak of deserved yellow cards have a look at the professional foul the ref ignored a few minutes after Zhara's disgraceful challenge on Mckay or Thwaite's body check on Henrique. I wont even go into the Vuko incident but would like to remind you of a fixture between the two teams where Henrique was given a straight red for raising a hand to Jacob Burns (Who went down like a sack of doorknobs- many players are prone to a little bit of theatrics). 16 Perth fouls to Brisbane's 8, yet Brisbane received 5 yellow cards? C'mon, dont you dare complain about the referee's decisions or any perceived theatrics, just accept the actualities of the game and stop your whinging.
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The lack of direction in central midfield killed us against Brissie. McGarry had an off night and couldn't make anything work, Cernak all energy but no direction and Burns only had one direction which was backwards to safety.
When Cernak came off, even though he had a poor game, it became worse as we had 2 CFs isolated instead of 1 and 1 less body in midfield (Smeltz is capable of working back and helping out a play through central midfield but it doesn't work when we're having to build our plays from the centre-backs!).
The game proved that the tactic of pumping it through your wingers to service your out-and-out goalscorers doesn't work against high-class well-organised teams like the Roar, and if we want to be a top team we need a midfielder in the style of Cordoba or Miller... hopefully this Serbian midfielder can fill that role slotting in ahead of the more defensive pairing of McGarry and Burns/Edwards.
Defensively, Burns and McGarry were torn apart making their lack of forward drive even more frustrating. Even with an extra player, the number of free bodies Brisbane had in dangerous midfield areas was far too high and made them look constantly dangerous on the counter-attack. I'd much rather see one or both of them dropped out for someone with a bit more energy to roam across in front of our defence and actually close down the ball, not just plug channels that still leave big holes for the opposition to play through.
If we're going to be anything like a worthy finalist this season, we basically need Burns out of the XI. A McGarry-newplayer midfield combo with an O'Neill or CEdwards (or even Thwaite?!) covering behind is going to make us look so much more dangerous and relieve the pressure on Sidnei to generate every meaningful attack (and as we saw he had a poor game against Brisbane making the whole team look limp).
Gallas in the back-line more than frees up Thwaite to go to midfield, and I'd be happy with Gallas alongside Clisby... it'd be great if one of Davies or Risdon could be used at LB because Woodcock is the weakest of our young defenders and having both Davies and Risdon in the park would suit us going forward.
Taking that defence and midfield and putting Sidnei, Smeltz and Harold across the front three would make us a genuine top 5 side in my opinion... especially with Maclaren, Zahra, Edwards and Da Silva available off the bench as impact players.
I wonder if Da Silva could be trialled as a Pirlo-style covering midfielder / playmaker?
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You're trying to get people to defend Burns' actions...on here? Stop winding up, troll. Shanagar was talking about Berisha and his opinion on him, nothing to do with Boo-urns.
Reeks actions deserved a red.
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It will be very handy to have a dead-ball weapon, which we've been missing for a while, assuming Coach Burns doesn't mind letting the new guy take the kick, which remains to be seen.
It's the playmaking abilities and creativity in the middle we need desperately. It looks like he might have that, but it's hard to say.
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Scoll wrote:GloryPerth wrote:Madaschi would be a primary CB option and THAT'S why having he, Thwaite AND Gallas in the rotation would be crazy. But if one of the latter two are departing (End of season), then that's more logical? This has been mentioned a couple of times now, Thwaite signed an extension until the end of the 2015/16 season and is not going anywhere. Gallas is a one-season deal and I don't expect that will be renewed, hence the interest in Madaschi. Yeah, I'm not understanding that logic :lol: Marinkovic is a signing, Sernas a LTIR for Dodd so Madaschi/Griffiths would have to be a LTIR for Jamo in order to sign. Hopefully it's Rostyn that gets a squad slot and he's locked away on a multiple-year deal. Edited by andytoddselbow: 20/1/2014 01:34:56 PM
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:You're trying to get people to defend Burns' actions...on here? Stop winding up, troll. Shanagar was talking about Berisha and his opinion on him, nothing to do with Boo-urns.
Reeks actions deserved a red. Yeah I wasn't complaining about Ricky's red in that fixture. It was a stupid response from Henrique and he was deservedly sent. I take it Shangar is a Glory supporter and hearing him speak so derisively and biased about Berisha hamming up the contact he received after McGarry's poor challenge prompted me to remind him that from time to time, footballers do accentuate the effects of misconduct in the game; even Jacob Burns. The whole point of my remarks was to encourage certain Perth Glory supporters to get over their butthurt over things that have transpired in the past between the clubs and to try and reflect on Brisbane-Perth games with some modicum of objectivity. To be fair, there are plenty of Perth supporters who do this, such as Bovs, in this thread. Troll free.
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JazzKillick wrote:The West Australian today announced Perth have agreed to sign 27 year old Centre Attacking Midfielder Nebojsa Marinkovic until the end of next season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClGrmSShwkgWatched the highlights video of him and jesus christ, he can strike a deadball (Even scores direct from a corner) Looks like an absolute hidden gem. Great pickup Whenever a highlights video gets presented for a Glory signing, I immediately think of one name - Rizzo. So unfortunately always sceptical till I see the real thing.
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steviep wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:You're trying to get people to defend Burns' actions...on here? Stop winding up, troll. Shanagar was talking about Berisha and his opinion on him, nothing to do with Boo-urns.
Reeks actions deserved a red. Yeah I wasn't complaining about Ricky's red in that fixture. It was a stupid response from Henrique and he was deservedly sent. I take it Shangar is a Glory supporter and hearing him speak so derisively and biased about Berisha hamming up the contact he received after McGarry's poor challenge prompted me to remind him that from time to time, footballers do accentuate the effects of misconduct in the game; even Jacob Burns. The whole point of my remarks was to encourage certain Perth Glory supporters to get over their butthurt over things that have transpired in the past between the clubs and to try and reflect on Brisbane-Perth games with some modicum of objectivity. To be fair, there are plenty of Perth supporters who do this, such as Bovs, in this thread. Troll free. Take your own advice? :-k
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AndyToddsElbow wrote: Take your own advice? :-k
Nah I'm cool mate. I'm not suffering from butthurt, it's just weariness of some Glory supporter's take on Bris-Perth fixtures. I admit the short comings of players within my own club as well as those from other clubs. I'm not fixated on another particular team or specific players. Best of luck to the Glory against the Wanderers. Would actually love to see your boys take them down.
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Eastern Glory
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What are the odds of Burnsy and McGarry hanging up the boots at the end of the season? If we lose Burns, McGarry, Gallas, Ryan Edwards and Smeltz that leaves a lot of room for us to re-shape the team.
------------------Vuka Risdon--Thwaite--?????--Jamieson -----------??????------????? ----------------?????? ?????----------???????----------Sciola
Let's be honest, all those positions are up for grabs come the end of the season if we lose those players. Slot Madaschi into the backline and you've got pretty much the best backline in the league. Bring in a couple of CMs like Griffiths and Kilkenny. Slot Da Silva in assuming he's fit and capable of playing snr football and the likes of Harold and Maclaren wouldn't be bad at all assuming Maclaren can get his confidence back up and get back to finishing off chances like he did all through his youth football.
Suddenly you've got quite a good side in:
--------------------Vuka Risdon--Thwaite--Madaschi--Jamison -----------Griffiths---Kilkenny? -------------------Da Silva Harold---------Maclaren?---------Sciola
If these two new players work out, then we could have the problem of the 10 and 9 solved too.
However, I suspect Ryan Edwards will be released by Reading at the end of this season, so we'll probably see him back this year unless he takes a contract elsewhere in an attempt to start afresh after this season's shenanigans.
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Eastern Glory wrote:Suddenly you've got quite a good side in:
--------------------Vuka Risdon--Thwaite--Madaschi--Jamison -----------Griffiths---Kilkenny? -------------------Da Silva Harold---------Maclaren?---------Sciola
=p~ Sexy team! Hopefully for Perth's sake they can make something like that happen.
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steviep wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote: Take your own advice? :-k
Nah I'm cool mate. I'm not suffering from butthurt, it's just weariness of some Glory supporter's take on Bris-Perth fixtures. I admit the short comings of players within my own club as well as those from other clubs. I'm not fixated on another particular team or specific players. Best of luck to the Glory against the Wanderers. Would actually love to see your boys take them down. I honestly see more brisbane fans going on about Perth's fixation with the roar than Perth fans actually complaining about the Roar. On here at least.
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GloryPerth wrote:soil wrote:hotrod wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:Sernas, Jovanović Doe, Ruka, Griffiths, Madaschi
If that's who we're trying to sign, one will miss out. :/ Hope it's Ruka. Would be a backward step for him. This. And I really hope Griffiths pushes out Burns but do not see that hapening. After seeing Wellington play today, even though I support PG id prefer to see Wellington and Adelaide in the finals if it meant we didn't get a place. I get the sense some of you under-estimate Rostyn Griffiths and his capability and even standing, somewhat? That or you fear Jacob Burns FC that much?! :-k Griffiths by all intents and purposes SHOULD push out Burns or at the very least, play alongside him (Bench, McGarry). Both he and Madaschi are no 'squaddies'! It would be good news for many reasons if both joined their hometown team and an addition reason would be Griffiths arrival would make it that much easier to 'end' the Jacob Burns FC regime, by letting him go! Edited by GloryPerth: 20/1/2014 04:47:06 AM I'm not underestimating Griffiths, just trying not to get my hopes up by underestimating Burns ability to keep his spot in the starting 11 of Jacob Burns FC. I'd love to see this line up this season: ----------------------V Risdon, Thwaite, Madaschi, Woodcock ----------Griffiths----Gallas --Harold---Marinković------Sciola --------------Sernas---------------- Suchh a shame about Jamieson. Still haven't got over it. Even though there is no way Ruka is an option, Ruka in that Harold spot with Sciola on the other wing would be fap worthy.
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Agree. The only weakness would be Woodcock and I have reservations about Marinković until he starts passing the ball with skill and controlling the MF.
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Eastern Glory
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hotrod wrote:Agree.
The only weakness would be Woodcock and I have reservations about Marinković until he starts passing the ball with skill and controlling the MF. Is Cordoba available? [-o< :-k
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Eastern Glory wrote:What are the odds of Burnsy and McGarry hanging up the boots at the end of the season? Please, stop it, don't get our hopes up. :( I like McGarry I think he's a great person, funny bloke and extremely approachable to fans, the guy you want at a club...but he's too old now, plays in a position we need better players in and we already have several youngsters as depth in AM and at CM they deserve chances. With Burns at the club the balance is too one-sided there. Will remember your time here positively but cya, we're in rebuild mode (or were). Eastern Glory wrote:If we lose Burns, McGarry, Gallas, Ryan Edwards and Smeltz that leaves a lot of room for us to re-shape the team.
------------------Vuka Risdon--Thwaite--?????--Jamieson -----------??????------????? ----------------?????? ?????----------???????----------Sciola Dream come true lol! Well put Madaschi in that line up and it's mouth-watering defence, all near-Roos calibre players. Rostyn at DM would be great, with Cam Edwards passing skill and O'Neill to finally show something too. AM looks to be this Serbian guy next season, with DDS playing too (please no Cernak next season!) with someone like Zahra covering? Then the wing is just Zahra/Harold, with Maclaren perhaps on the left occasionally. Striker would need to be filled but Maclaren should be better off with another season with the men, and with tempered expectations (10 goal debut season lol). There's always Makeche. Decent core imo, would be happy with that team, albeit it, its a year behind in development (thanks to the shit this year). Even if Boo-urns goes (which this really all rides on) I think Ryan should get out of dodge. It did/does before look likely that he'd be released but can't see a reason for him to come back with this current administration.
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soil wrote:I'm not underestimating Griffiths, just trying not to get my hopes up by underestimating Burns ability to keep his spot in the starting 11 of Jacob Burns FC. Yes, the hypotheticals are great but it all relies one man we've seen time and time again get preferential treatment, stop playing. Griffiths is an awesome DM, don't know anyone who would remember his time at CCM saying otherwise. I don't really see Gallas as a DM. He'll just get outpaced like JBFC does.
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:soil wrote:I'm not underestimating Griffiths, just trying not to get my hopes up by underestimating Burns ability to keep his spot in the starting 11 of Jacob Burns FC. Yes, the hypotheticals are great but it all relies one man we've seen time and time again get preferential treatment, stop playing. Griffiths is an awesome DM, don't know anyone who would remember his time at CCM saying otherwise. I don't really see Gallas as a DM. He'll just get outpaced like JBFC does. Is pace a problem for Gallas? I didn't see the Brisbane game but I vaguely remember being surprised by his pace before he got injured earlier in the season. Pace may be a problem, but I think the biggest problem for him being in DM in that hypothetical line up is his fitness. He has pace, but not for very long.
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soil wrote:AndyToddsElbow wrote:soil wrote:I'm not underestimating Griffiths, just trying not to get my hopes up by underestimating Burns ability to keep his spot in the starting 11 of Jacob Burns FC. Yes, the hypotheticals are great but it all relies one man we've seen time and time again get preferential treatment, stop playing. Griffiths is an awesome DM, don't know anyone who would remember his time at CCM saying otherwise. I don't really see Gallas as a DM. He'll just get outpaced like JBFC does. Is pace a problem for Gallas? I didn't see the Brisbane game but I vaguely remember being surprised by his pace before he got injured earlier in the season. Pace may be a problem, but I think the biggest problem for him being in DM in that hypothetical line up is his fitness. He has pace, but not for very long. He has loooong legs, so pace is not an issue. It takes different physical requirements to play midfield., namely, the ability to run all day, which he can not.
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Thwaite is a better DM option than Gallas. Gallas does sufficient damage from set-pieces and the occasional bursting run from CB while adding a heap of stability to the back-line.
Thwaite is positionally sound and can be a distribution point from DM.
My base line-up for the rest of the season:
----------------Vuka---------------------- Risdon----Gallas---Clisby----Woodcock ---------------Thwaite----------------- ------McGarry-----Marinkovic------- Harold-------Smeltz----------Sidnei
With scope to trial Da Silva at DM and Risdon at LB (allowing Davies in at RB). If Griffiths or Madaschi come in then it's for Clisby (with Thwaite either back at CB for Griffiths or still at DM with Madaschi at CB).
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Rostyn Griffiths is contemplating offers from overseas. /gawn :(
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