I don't think we're likely to get an understudy... I think it'll be someone Sage knows or someone with good credentials. Knowing this is why I don't want anyone local (as far as I'm concerned, most local coaches seem to be either "old-school" get good players on the park and let them do the job or "textbook-style" following the theory and new football curriculum without really understanding it... don't want either).

Knowing then that there's a good chance of us landing Aloisi, Farina, Culina or Kosmina but not wanting that... it then stands as a foreigner being our best option. Ideally it would be the one who demonstrates through an application-and-interview process the best credentials, but in reality Sage will sign whoever is cheap and marketable, so Hierro fits the bill nicely. If he's any good as a coach that'll be a bonus.

Fair enough. :d

The potential nightmare scenarios just write themselves! You could just see him at a poker night, running out of chips, and saying "Okay, I'll bet the Perth Glory manager's position on this hand".

The only ex A league coach I would consider would be Blieberg. Has a wide range of tactics, which he is willing to change mid game. Most importantly he has the rare eye to spot young talent.

You raise a very valid point about being able to change tactics mid - match.
How often in the last decade can we recall any noticeable change in tactics by Glory during a match?
(And not just giving the appearance of stepping up and having a real go once the opposition gets a couple of goals in front).
Time and time again we can play absolute shockers in the first half, and think 'thank god that's over, at least we can get things sorted in the break to address our shortcomings', then reappear and continue just the same (or worse).

And not sure about where we really sit with spotting the young talent.
Glory can seem to spot it easily enough, but have serious issues about really knowing what we should do with it and exactly how to go about nurturing it into mature footballers.
The end result is that it all gets too hard, and we get a very repetitive 'don't like to stand in the way of any player who wishes to further their career elsewhere'.

Fergie had a habit of changing formation at half time, but that was generally due to injury or because we were already well out of the game.

Dear Kenny,
I am so sick of this 'I'm not under any pressure' approach everytime I see a 30 second grab on the sports news.
Again, last night.
Maybe if you thought you were, we just may get some urgency into the way this team plays.
By my count, we've won 2 games since you took over.
Sydeney have also won 2 games in that time, and their fans have been a little less than happy with the way they have been going. You really don't appreciate how cruisy sub standard performances can be hidden away in the Perth football media.
And I know just because one is next to the Titanic doesn't mean you have to sink as well, but it's well overdue now that you also show what you're capable of.
So far, this 'I want the job full-time' idea you keep promoting has absolutely nothing what so ever to support it.
Like a pig losing its voice, I'm becoming very disgruntled.

First off: :lol:

Second off, if anyone in the front office looks at this record and says, let's hire him, then we're going to go through all of this again middle of next year.

Hoping that the WA SPL side Glory will be fielding won't be touched by the same absurdities, cause I'd like to get to some of those home games and the southern away games (Cockburn/Armadale).

FMD :lol: :lol: :lol:


Very true though Shanagar. But it's ok, I'm sure we've got a plan and we're taking part in an extensive executive search. All will be well, and these aren't the droids you're looking for.




Pretty sure they'll have some of their own. Glory are very non-committal on whether some senior players will get a gig in the side for fitness etc. If they do, it's a joke and will affect the competition.

100% NYL side = fine.
NYL side + trial overseas players + keep Smeltzy fit + oh lets borrow Gustavo and that good guy from Sorrento for a 'trial' = bad.

It'd be just typical if they get a few forfeits declared against them for not handling the paperwork for trialists, etc., properly.

I will not be surprised if Harnwell is the next coach. As much as I loved Harnwell as a player, I think it would be a disaster. But he would fit the bill (wink, wink) and has the accreditations.

You have just described last years, the year before that and the year before and the year before that's FW/NTC of which nobody cared about, nobody wanted to watch.

This is not legible English. No one knows what you're trying to say here.

The Glory civil war continues.

Shed vs GFU
Pro Edwards vs The Players aka Jacob Burns FC
Bitters vs Cheerleaders vs Straight bat

Fuck off Splinter! :lol:

Of course youre under pressure, what denial!

Youre 4 points above Melbourne Heart, who even though are on the bottom, are in great form

](*,)

A bit worser actually, as it is only 3 points with a goal difference of 4.
A couple of results on the weekend could see that goal difference of 4 evaporate.
And it sums the season up when I'm calculating what's required to keep us off the bottom rather than what's required to make the top 6.

Last week Kenny was all "chill people, we're 3 points off 4th with 9 to play".
Well we're in the deep freezer now Kenny, 4 points off 6th with 8 to play.
And given those immediately above us (6th plays equal 7th this week), that gap off 6th could easily be far greater with only 7 to play.
The following week will be our easybeats Brisbane away - our 2nd and final Friday SBS televised match of the season - so guess will pick up a few points there.

But I try and be positive, and would love to see DDS start in the middle this week, as we do not keep shuffling our Titanic midfield deckchairs for Kenny's best fit. Gelling is over, there is no more time, and blind Freddie can see who can cut it and who can't.

And the Worst says that the CEO has started negotiations/discussions with JB over his future.
If it were me, it would be very one sided, and one of the shortest discussions in modern history.

yes it is.

F1Dave is saying Glory NPL team will be a joke if it is not only glory youth players, I am saying it is then no different to previous years when it was just called FW/NTC when nobody cared about them.


do try and keep up old chap.

Damn straight.

...something like "Thanks for your years of service, there's the door"

The big Question is with out Next years coach signed why the hell are we in contract negotiations with Burns. How do we now if the new coach wants a 36 year old player that constantly picks up yellow cards.

Because Burnsy calls the shots around here, not the coach (or would-be coach). Wouldn't be half surprised if he manages to get himself a bonus written into his contract for every card

No he doesn't stop being daft.

True.

Not every card, just the ones he gets on the pitch.

Thank you for stating your case in a manner understandable by people who aren't clairvoyant.

However, now that you've stated your point in a coherent fashion, it's pretty clear that you've missed the thrust of Dave's argument, which is that Glory using the NPL side as a fitness regime for senior players, or as practice matches for trial candidates, would devalue the competition. As for no one watching the NTC, well of course no one bar their parents watched the NTC, they weren't a club for any useful purpose; they played for no points, played all of their games away, had no reserves or U18s sides. Who would be an NTC fan? But regardless of the source of players, they are no longer the NTC, they will be competing in Perth Glory kit, crest, and name. And they'll have a home ground and play for points, so I fully expect some contingent of Glory supporters to watch them in their new guise.

And I would try and keep up, Begbie, but its damned tricky when you present a post that resembles nothing so much as a jigsaw puzzle wherein half the pieces have been eaten by the cat.

why would it demean the competition of Glory used the NPL for say 'Scott Jamieson's rehabilitation'?

So NTC had no reserves or under 18's last season? ok then if you say so! I think your cat has eaten your facts here.

Home ground? sharing with Inglewood is hardly a 'home' ground. playing for points with a philosophy of results don't matter, fantastic.

I would imagine they will attract the same amout of support as the NYL team did.

Yep - And that's also why I can understand those questioning even the mid-season signings, signing on for contracts beyond this season (Though Rostyn a coup IMHO, even if he didn't have the best last game, he and McGarry tormented by ADP, but then, who wouldn't be in this league? :/).

Seems they can progress things at a relative rate of knots, in regards to the playing squad, but on the coaching front - no they have to take their sweet time! FTR I do not mind good due diligence at all and even encourage it! But while Glory are trying to sort the coaching role/candidates, they are same time signing away on players for beyond this season - may of them are BIG decisions too - not just your usual/logical suspects of established, in-form, younger stars or what not. Guys like some of the VISAs, Burns, McGarry, Dodd etc... are BIG and crucial decisions, especially in regards to the next coaching regime!!!

Sydney FC learned from this - FIRST A-League season!! They signed up half a dozen players in a rush before their coach was even appointed (Littbarski)!! And guess what?! Once Littbarski came in he subsequently or almost immediately, cancelled/let go a couple of them (Why couldn't we have done that with Cernak?! :/)!

I know, I know, flipside, you can't wait forever or other clubs poach the talent - but again, case by case, we aren't THAT worried about losing Burns and co, ARE we?! Heck, we weren't that worried about losing Liam Miller and we subsequently did, YET, Jacob Burns FC - Noooooo FORBID - No we can't lose our Captain and all-around Hero?! :roll:

Hopefully the coach is finally sorted (Hopefully the delay/'due diligence' was worth it!) BEFORE any decision is made on the likes of Burns FC, McGarry, Dodd and any other key contract situations!!

Edited by GloryPerth: 20/2/2014 02:53:17 AM

Ouch, yes, you're completely right, they played with those last year. They switched to that system a couple years ago and I was out of date on my information.

Is a shared home any less a home? We share NIB with Western Force and even these loonie new WA Angels, and will probably be sharing it with an NRL team before the decade is out. Will that stop being a home ground and drive people away? It's still a fixed location for home games that people will know they can go see their team. Glory and Inglewood have been working together for an increasing amount of time, so it's becoming more normal for supporters.

And, the crucial difference between the NYL side and an NPL side: there is no HAL team getting in the way! It's the only team in purple that will be playing during winter.

The end of the A-League season and the start of the NPL over lap, also the A-League pre season and the end of the NPL will over lap so there will not just be one team in purple playing.

What input do Glory have in them? Who is coaching them? Are coaches playing for points ie going to try and win games? why do the junior Glory NPL teams have 'no home ground'? Did Glory senoir coaching staff have a say in who was picked for the Glory NPL teams?



Edited by Begbie: 20/2/2014 09:57:31 AM

The Glory's NPL home ground is Intiga Stadium.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/perthglory/news-display/NPL-STADIUM-ANNOUNCEMENT/86430

Also, some big outs for the Wanderers - Ante COVIC, Jerome POLENZ, Shinji ONO.
Good for us, Popovic must be working hard his rotation policy ahead of busy schedule

Perth Glory Squad: 1.Daniel VUKOVIC (GK), 2.Jack CLISBY, 3. Brandon O’NEILL, 5. Rostyn GRIFFITHS, 7. Jacob BURNS, 8. Nebojsa MARINKOVIC, 9. Shane SMELTZ, 11.Adrian ZAHRA, 14.Steven McGARRY, 16.Sidnei SCIOLA MORAES, 17. Chris HAROLD, 18. Jack DUNCAN, 19. Josh RISDON,20.Daniel DE SILVA, 23.Michael THWAITE, 25. Riley WOODCOCK, 28. Darvydas SERNAS, 36. William GALLAS
** two to be omitted **

Ins: 3. Brandon O’NEILL, 11. Adrian ZAHRA
Outs: 10. Jamie MACLAREN

Unavailable: Travis DODD (knee - indefinite), Scott JAMIESON (achilles - indefinite)

Western Sydney Wanderers Squad: 2.Shannon COLE, 3.Adam D’APUZZO, 4.Nikolai TOPOR-STANLEY, 7.Labinot HALITI, 8.Mateo POLJAK, 9.Tomi JURIC, 10.Aaron MOOY, 11.Brendon SANTALAB, 13.Matthew SPIRANOVIC, 15.Kwabena APPIAH, 17.Youssouf HERSI, 19.Iacopo LA ROCCA, 19.Mark BRIDGE, 20.Jerrad TYSON (gk), 22.Dean HEFFERNAN, 23.Jason TRIFIRO, 30.Thomas MANOS (GK) 31.Alusine FOFANAH
**Two to be omitted**

Ins: 15.Kwabena APPIAH (promoted), 22.Dean HEFFERNAN (promoted), 23.Jason TRIFIRO (promoted), 30.Thomas MANOS (promoted), 31.Alusine FOFANAH (promoted)

Outs: 1.Ante COVIC, 6.Jerome POLENZ, 20.Shinji ONO

Unavailable: Nil